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[REQUEST] "LG Optimus One, P500, V" forum modification

I have an LG Vortex, and though there is a place for the phone on XDA (technically), its not welcome there.
The Vortex is a variant of the LG Optimus One. While there are dozens of variants, there are only 3 versions "welcome" in the applicable forum, the Optimus One, the Optimus P500, and the Optimus.
HOWEVER! even this is incorrect. P500 is the product number for the "original" optimus one - that means only the Optimus One and the Optimus V are allowed in the forum. When people with other Optimus One variants post topics or ask questions for their devices, they are ignored, turned away, or even occasionally treated with undue anger. If you do not have a P500 or an Optimus V, you are not welcome. However, when people attempt to post elsewhere about these devices, in the general/android forums, they are more often than not ignored, asked to return to their forum, sometimes even a moderator moves the topic there, where it will suffer the above fate. Because of this, there are virtually no user of the many Optimus One variants on XDA anymore, and those who come are quickly turned away. Root has barley been achieved for most of these devices, some people (such as myself) actually had to figure out how to root them ourselves, which luckily was fairly easy. There are no ROMs or ports for these devices anywhere on the internet. Perhaps they are considered not "good enough" for devs to bother with, I don't know. The "main" version of the device have plenty of support, including a functioning ICS port for the original Optiumus One. These variants are cheap, so they are VERY common. The forums I will request further on will not be empty, I can promise that.
All versions of this phone are as follows:
LG Optimus One - P500 (Europe/Asia) (GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - HSDPA 900 / 2100)
LG Optimus One - P503 (Turkey) (GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 - HSDPA 850 / 900 / 2100)
LG Optimus One - P504 (Walmart Family Mobile) (unknown radio, help out?)
LG Optimus C - LW690 (Cricket) (unknown radio, help out?)
LG Optimus M - MS690 (MetroPCS) (CDMA 800 / 1900, UMTS 1700 / 2100 - CDMA 2000 1xRTT, CDMA 2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0)
LG Optimus T - P509 (T-Mobile) (GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900, UMTS 1700 / 2100 - CSD, GPRS, EDGE, UMTS, HSDPA, HSUPA)
LG Phoenix - P505 (AT&T, Rogers Wireless) (GSM 850 / 900 /1800 / 1900 - UMTS 850/ 1900/ 2100)
LG Thrive - P506 (GoPhone) (GSM 850 / 900 / 1800 / 1900 MHz Quad-Band/Dual-Mode - GPRS/UMTS/HSDPA)
LG Optimus U - US670 (US Cellular) (CDMA 800 / 1900 - cdmaOne, CDMA2000 1xRTT, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev A)
LG Vortex - VS660 (Verizon) (identical radios/bands to US670, different chassis)
LG Optimus S - LS670 (Sprint) (CDMA 800 /1900 - cdmaOne, CDMA2000 1xRTT, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rel. 0, CDMA2000 1xEV-DO Rev A)
LG Optimus V - VM670 (Virgin Mobile) (completely identical to LS670)
So as you can see, all these phones are similar. VERY similar. Things like ROMs require only some modification to go from one version to another. In fact, other than minor chassis differences, and the radios included (and this is only an issue most of the time), and some versions including an FM radio, those phones are identical. However, there is very little development for these devices at all, except the ones featured in the sub-forum, which i was very disappointed to see. Making my Vortex work better was one of the primary reasons I came to XDA to begin with. As i have found out, these devices are very close to stock android. As far as i can tell, the bootloaders are all unlocked. Development should be a breeze, but it is actively (though accidentally) being prevented. Here is how I believe that the forum for the Optimus One should be reconstructed
PROPOSED FORUM REORGANIZATION:
Forum title:
LG Optimus One
subforums:
-LG Optimus One General
-LG Optimus One Accessories
-LG Optimus One (P500) Android Development
-LG Optimus One (P503) Android Development
-LG Optimus One (P504) Android Development
-LG Optimus C Android Development
-LG Optimus M Android Development
-LG Optimus T Android Development
-LG Phoenix Android Development
-LG Thrive Android Development
-LG Optimus U/LG Vortex Android Development
-LG Optimus S/LG Optimus V Android Development
-LG Optimus One Themes and Apps
note: Optimus One, being the original, is the generally accepted base name for this family of devices. they are similar enough to share a general, accessories, and themes and apps section, but the devices are just different enough that ROMs and hardware specific software is not compatible without major modification. There will also be a republic Wireless variant released in the near future, which should require its own forum. If some models are more compatible than I think they are, those models can be combined into the same forum, eg Optimus S & V
This would NOT be very much work or stress on the mods or the server. I am simply asking for corrections of a product name on the subforum, and addition of a few new sub-subforums, so that everything has a place. This would enable the limited to nonexistent development for these devices to grow into something useful and meaningful for these devices, which is, after all, what everybody here wants from XDA, isn't it?

+1
and also i really think the forum should just be called lg optimus family/line/etc because the title is kind of misleading. grouping the optimus one and v makes some people think that stuff on the o1 works on the ov and vice versa
afaik the only things compatible with each other are the p500, p503, and p509
my thought in general:
different title for the forum "lg optimus one, p500, v"
different subforums of each of the said devices grouped by compatibility (i.e. one subforum should be p500, p503, p509)
the usual subforums under those subforums (general, accessories, development, themes and apps)

while they are similar remember the Sprint runs CDMA

Contra1971 said:
while they are similar remember the Sprint runs CDMA
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exactly. (so does the votex btw) They're all slightly different, but honestly most of them are closer than the moto droid and the milestone.

I agree. I own a P505 and was baffled by the lack of at least a sub-forum for the other optimus variants.

Here's hoping for expanded Optimus forums. My brother just got a T and I'd love to get my hooks into that. I do understand Z4root works for the T, though i have no experience with it. I've recentloy learned all about Odin for my Charge in the past month or so and need better advice on getting his phone up and running as well as possible.

tdenton1138 said:
Here's hoping for expanded Optimus forums. My brother just got a T and I'd love to get my hooks into that. I do understand Z4root works for the T, though i have no experience with it. I've recentloy learned all about Odin for my Charge in the past month or so and need better advice on getting his phone up and running as well as possible.
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theres technically a forum for the optimus t. the optimus t and the optimus one use the same hardware, so anything meant for the optimus one is also meant for the optimus t. this means that you can refer to the optimus one forum for your brothers optimus t
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mtmerrick said:
However, there is very little development for these devices at all, at least of the ones even featured in the sub-forum, which i was very disappointed to see. Making my Vortex work better was one of the primary reasons I came to XDA to begin with.
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Might be because for some of those, LG has not even bothered with releasing even the kernel source code, which is a clear GPL violation. You cannot expect much development for such stuff. For these cases, the best development would be done by contacting [email protected] first

dr.notor said:
Might be because for some of those, LG has not even bothered with releasing even the kernel source code, which is a clear GPL violation. You cannot expect much development for such stuff. For these cases, the best development would be done by contacting [email protected] first
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Which ones? The kernel source is available for all of the CDMA phones at least.
In any case the hardware is not all identical, nor is the software. Even within the same model there are some different revisions here and there. That said, I think the P500/One name works well enough as the GSM phones all carry a P50x designation, no? Perhaps the V subforum could be renamed to something along the lines of 660/670/690.
All told tho, the kernel source enables some niceties but it's not essential for a custom ROM (look at the Moto Triumph for instance), and I hardly doubt that asking questions about the other CDMA phones in the V subforums would raise many eyebrows.

The LG Optimus T can use P500 ROMs except they don't get the WIFI calling stuff.

Was looking around for news on this. Sprint has upgraded the ROM for the S version, but mine has not downloaded yet.
There is a forum over here, with some development work... but did not want to be first or second to root my phone.
http://forum.ppcgeeks.com/lg-optimus-s/

Just a point of note.
turdferguson92 said:
I agree. I own a P505 and was baffled by the lack of at least a sub-forum for the other optimus variants.
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Team M.A.C have a variety of cm9 mod roms for both the p500 and p505 however I am not being allowed to post the link due to XDA's filtering system so if you are interested please pm me and then post the link somewhere this or a related thread.

how bout a thrive rom. everyone has forgotten it.
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[Q]Bell Mobility offering LG Optimus LTE vs actually handing out LG Nitro HD units??

Just wanted to let everyone know that Bell is stating their LG Optimus LTE is actually the LG P930 Nitro HD (as per the box and the internal OS). Seems to be a bit of confusion on the 'Net. Anyone able to figure this out? Comparison??? Bell vs. AT&T

Doesn't seem to be any sort of a huge difference? Seems basically the same to me other than a few things.

Confusion?
The Optimus LTE is heavier, lacks the extra 2 GB ram, adds the 1700MHz spectrum so it is compatible with WIND, comes with only an 8GB TF SDHC card, no fm radio. some are big differences i would think?

if you go LG.com, it listed Optimus LTE p930 same as Nitro p930.

specs?
If you look, the P930 has different specs than the LTE specs listed all over the 'Net. hence why i started this [Q] to clear up the 2 models conflicting with what Bell is sending out to customers vs. AT&T's Nitro HD P930.
My original [Q] is still unanswered: Bell is handing out the Optimus LTE 4G with boxes and firmware showing it is a P930, yet the specs for the P930 are different from what they are handing out. Which is the right P930??? Bell's or AT&T's?
There ARE differences. see my previous post for them.

PearsonDKA said:
Doesn't seem to be any sort of a huge difference? Seems basically the same to me other than a few things.
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Sorry little off topic what the hell happened to your phones lol. some are kia and others exploded.

BOOM?!
Little off topic is true. maybe he's had bad luck or bad units or the zerglings got him?

Going off topic/the record, I have had the worse luck when it comes to phone this year.
-Atrix sorta burst into a tiny flame while charging
- 1st BB drowned, 2nd had faulty keys and the 3rd one permanently froze
- Whatever bugs/defects that were reported with the Sensation, happened to me
- The Torch and Bold basically died and wouldnt charge or turn on.
Thankfully, I have the PEP plan from Best Buy <3. Technically saved me over $3000 haha

repherb said:
Just wanted to let everyone know that Bell is stating their LG Optimus LTE is actually the LG P930 Nitro HD (as per the box and the internal OS). Seems to be a bit of confusion on the 'Net. Anyone able to figure this out? Comparison??? Bell vs. AT&T
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Wow, that's interesting. I knew they had differences in software but I didn't think they had some differences in hardware too, considering that they call the Optimus LTE a Nitro HD. Does my Nitro HD have a radio/FM antenna? How does one go about using it?

repherb said:
The Optimus LTE is heavier, lacks the extra 2 GB ram, adds the 1700MHz spectrum so it is compatible with WIND, comes with only an 8GB TF SDHC card, no fm radio. some are big differences i would think?
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Optimus LTE and LG Nitro is the same phone! both phone listed as P930 on lg.com !
optimus lacks the extra 2gb ram? on my nitro, it listed Internal storage available space 1.53GB. i not even sure nitro has 4gb to begin with.
so nitro has fm radio? the nitro never comes with headset (att is getting cheap! haha) and there is no FM app preinstalled on Nitro!

Bell vs AT&T
Check out GSMArena. They have both phones listed and they are different. One is manufactured for Bell Canada and one is manufactured for AT&T. "They are different". The AT&T model has a radio with RDS the Bell one has no radio.. The AT&T model has only the one "LTE 700" frequency. the Bell has 700 and 1700. AT&T has 4 gig but Bell only 2 gig. Bell Canada LTE is rated at 75 Mbps, AT&T 21 max. There may be other differences. Check the site for yourself and see.
I am still debating which new phone to purchase and leaning to the LG. My current phone does not have the worlds greatest battery life so not getting a full day out of the LT is not a major concern. And talking for three hours,I don't think so.

MerlF said:
Check out GSMArena. They have both phones listed and they are different. One is manufactured for Bell Canada and one is manufactured for AT&T. "They are different". The AT&T model has a radio with RDS the Bell one has no radio.. The AT&T model has only the one "LTE 700" frequency. the Bell has 700 and 1700. AT&T has 4 gig but Bell only 2 gig. Bell Canada LTE is rated at 75 Mbps, AT&T 21 max.
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you know how to check out gsmarena but not att.com, lg.com or get the Nitro user manual from lg.com?? radio is never mentioned on nitro!
just cus it' on gsmarena, it must be accurate?
att version maxed out at 21mb? is there such a thing as LTE maxed out 21mb? haha
21mb is hspa+
I just did a speedtests on nitro and get 27mb!

not exactly reliable sources...
If your phone doesn't say "AT&T" above the screen, then you're getting the Optimus LTE. Only AT&T has the Nitro HD (name wise), and unless they're gonna bother switching out the glass/digitizer, you didn't get the nitro hd.

New Thread for Optimus LTE??
So based on each carriers website, and the manufacturer admitting they are different models, would it be out of line to start a separate thread for the LTE P930 vs. the Nitro P930 and set the naming convention to differentiate between the two models and XDA support?
Can a Mod give their input on this please??? I am just trying to clarify this before this thread gets bloated with unnecessary posts that will eventually lead to confusion and eventually blurs the line between the two models and set up some sort of clarity for future posts and support...

repherb said:
So based on each carriers website, and the manufacturer admitting they are different models, would it be out of line to start a separate thread for the LTE P930 vs. the Nitro P930 and set the naming convention to differentiate between the two models and XDA support?
Can a Mod give their input on this please??? I am just trying to clarify this before this thread gets bloated with unnecessary posts that will eventually lead to confusion and eventually blurs the line between the two models and set up some sort of clarity for future posts and support...
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dude, it doesn't even matter. The Nexus S had i9023, i9020t, and i9020A and they coexist fine. The difference in radio(freq) just means you can't put out roms that changes the baseband.

don't you mean the fact the Optimus LTE has only 2GB of internal memory vs. 4GB of internal memory on the Nitro is also a large difference as well as the lack of the dual LTE frequencies vs the Nitro? or do we need to go further into the other hardware differences (ie: screens etc?)

Import Optimus G

Hello,
I would really like to own an Optimus G, but they are not for sale in Germany.
Does an Optimus G, which i import from USA to Germany work here?
Thank you very much.

Well depending on what carrier u get it from. Ur only carrier that has the same network technology is Att and the Att LTE most likely will not work in Germany. It does not work on any of my imported LTE us devices. Also remember US Smartphones are also sim locked. It is sad but that's how it is. You other option is getting a Canadian one but I do not know much about it. But a Bell Network Optimus G should work. And you also just could get a LG 4x HD. Almost the same thing. The G is faster but no removable memory and battery keep that in mind.
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Rogers E971 helper thread

Alright so the point of this thread is to help people with their LG Optimus G for Rogers Wireless in Canada, also known simply as E971
Here are the official specs:
from LG:
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/cell-phones/lg-LGE971-optimus-g
from Rogers:
http://www.rogers.com/web/link/wire...normal&productId_Detailed=OPTIMUSGBLK&N=52+11
The main difference from this phone and the E973 version is the 700/2600mhz LTE frequency for Rogers as opposed to 700/1700 for Bell/Telus/Sasktel
The 2600MHz LTE spectrum (2x20MHz band) is the frequency used for LTE that has the most bandwidth available making it the fastest LTE band. Typical download speeds experienced will range from 12 Mbps up to 40Mbps. -from the Roger's site
This means that LTE will not work with other LTE such as BELL or TELUS unless they roll out a 700/2600mhz network, Fido piggy backs on Rogers and *should* work
Here are some of the more important threads to have your phone rooted and have a unlocked bootloader, up to know i do not know of any custom roms available for the E971
Give these guys your thanks and donate if you can
You'll have to root first then unlock the bootloader
Root:
Bin4ry's Root MANY ANDROID
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1886460
(confirmed working on E97120D)
unlocked bootloader:
Team Codefire's Project FreeGee
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2007961
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=edu.shell.freegee (Donate)
https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=edu.shell.freegee_free (Free)
If you want to keep your root and unlocked Bootloader do not update to the latest OTA (E97110E_00), you will lose root permanatly and Bin4ry's methode will not work anymore the previous version is linked at the 2nd post (E97110D_00)
more info here:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2053880
to disable the OTA app:
"Disable" via Settings > Apps > All > Software Update > Tap Disable.
or freeze with Titanium Backup "Software Update 3.1.0"
Removing carrierware (only do if you have v0.5+ of FreeGee and Root or else you'll get a the security error bootloop)
You'll also receive the Security error if you tinker with the Google Apps that come with this phone (ex, google movies, google books, etc)
remove or delete the .apk , freezing with Titanium works as well
Locations
/vendor/apps-rgs/
/system/vendor/apps-rgs/
/data/app-system
Other Stuff
E971 wont work with Bell LTE
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2000629
USB Drivers:
http://www.lg.com/ca_en/support-mobile/lg-LGE971
[STOCK ROM] LG Optimus G CANADA E971 E973 Firmware / Service Manual
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2036404

working Roms:
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CyanogenMod 10.1 by chadouming
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2031261
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[4.2.2] AOKP - geeb CDN *unofficial* by Paulicat
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[UNOFFICIAL]AOSPA-3.69 :Hello Halo by x10forevers
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2383089
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A nice debloated stock rom found here (based off E)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2098777
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Jelly bean is here for root and unlocked bootloader users:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/show...2#post37437712
follow instructions exaclty as described in OP
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KDZ:
links are no longer working

This makes me even MORE glad I bought an E970 instead of the E971. The Rogers phone doesn't even support both THEIR OWN FREQUENCIES, because the AWS band would mean the phone could easily be used on Telus or Bell. So the E971 doesn't actually get better LTE coverage than Galaxy S2s or iPhone5s by offering both bands Rogers supports.
The E971 supports 2600 and 700, 700 being the main frequency for AT&T in the US which is shared with the E970 but not supported by ANY carrier in Canada until after the 700mhz spectrum auction which isn't for another YEAR. But with an E970 on Rogers I still get the AWS band , and it is ALSO usable on Bell or Telus!
So overall, the AT&T phone gives just as good coverage out of the box, and better options for changing carriers and roaming than either regular Canadian model.
**** you, Rogers.

Thank you! This is very helpful!

amrando said:
This makes me even MORE glad I bought an E970 instead of the E971. The Rogers phone doesn't even support both THEIR OWN FREQUENCIES, because the AWS band would mean the phone could easily be used on Telus or Bell. So the E971 doesn't actually get better LTE coverage than Galaxy S2s or iPhone5s by offering both bands Rogers supports.
The E971 supports 2600 and 700, 700 being the main frequency for AT&T in the US which is shared with the E970 but not supported by ANY carrier in Canada until after the 700mhz spectrum auction which isn't for another YEAR. But with an E970 on Rogers I still get the AWS band , and it is ALSO usable on Bell or Telus!
So overall, the AT&T phone gives just as good coverage out of the box, and better options for changing carriers and roaming than either regular Canadian model.
**** you, Rogers.
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With all due respect, unless you plan on changing carriers, then the E971 does in fact have the fastest up/down speeds. 2600 is basically empty right now, like driving a Ferrari down an empty highway. Not many people buy a phone knowing they'll be switching carriers - I certainly don't.
On a separate note, anyone else get a little happy tingle inside everytime the LTE icon comes on?

adzidek said:
With all due respect, unless you plan on changing carriers, then the E971 does in fact have the fastest up/down speeds. 2600 is basically empty right now, like driving a Ferrari down an empty highway. Not many people buy a phone knowing they'll be switching carriers - I certainly don't.
On a separate note, anyone else get a little happy tingle inside everytime the LTE icon comes on?
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im in Winnipeg = no LTE lol
fingers crossed for 2013

BloodBaron said:
im in Winnipeg = no LTE lol
fingers crossed for 2013
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Move to Toronto - I'll find you your dream home !
(I'm a Real Estate Agent with Royal LePage)

I thought Rogers uses AWS frequencies for LTE... How else would the Nexus 4 get LTE? Because I know the Canadian mobile industry has an upcoming 700Mhz auction coming up and everyone wants the small 3 to win it.
Proof: http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/03/14/o...13-plus-were-loosening-telecom-foreign-rules/
More proof: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...33+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a

geokilla said:
I thought Rogers uses AWS frequencies for LTE... How else would the Nexus 4 get LTE? Because I know the Canadian mobile industry has an upcoming 700Mhz auction coming up and everyone wants the small 3 to win it.
Proof: http://mobilesyrup.com/2012/03/14/o...13-plus-were-loosening-telecom-foreign-rules/
More proof: http://webcache.googleusercontent.c...33+&cd=1&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=ca&client=firefox-a
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as far as i know the optimus g specs from LG/Rogers say the phone uses 700/2600 bands, im sure rogers has 700/1700 AWS deployed as well for other lte capable phones,
well that would be my best guess

From what I've read Rogers has the standard AWS frequency LTE, but is also rolling out an additional 2600MHz network in addition to AWS, providing a nice empty spectrum and supposedly better coverage in rural areas. This is supposed to be in partnership with Bell, but Bell is apparently not supporting the frequency at this time. This lead to my issues with Bell LTE linked in the OP.
In theory, if you have 2600MHz coverage, you should be able to get better throughput due to the empty spectrum, but in practice (from my limited testing) you get generally the same speeds as any other Rogers LTE phone (such as the iPhone, which is not using 2600MHz).

Has anyone tried the Base 0.5 Rom over in the at&t optimus G forum. Just wondering if it would work for the E91.
If you have what are your results?

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Has anyone tried the Base 0.5 Rom over in the at&t optimus G forum. Just wondering if it would work for the E91.
If you have what are your results?
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I think someone did flash it. They said it worked. I'm not sure how because I thought partitions were different. I think it was an E973 though.
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cfoucher said:
Has anyone tried the Base 0.5 Rom over in the at&t optimus G forum. Just wondering if it would work for the E91.
If you have what are your results?
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dimsler said:
I have installed this rom on the E971 Rogers edition, all seems to work fine.
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from the att dev thread
gonna try later today myself

BloodBaron said:
from the att dev thread
gonna try later today myself
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just flashed the_Base_v05 rom from att forum
didnt seem to do a thing altho everything seemed to "flash" ok

BloodBaron said:
just flashed the_Base_v05 rom from att forum
didnt seem to do a thing altho everything seemed to "flash" ok
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So it works? What about the LTE?

geokilla said:
So it works? What about the LTE?
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No it didn't apply any of actual changes just flashed successfully
I chose the Gmail 4.2 option and I'm still on the stock version
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Hello Dear Winnipeger,
So as the OP suggests, I assume that I can achieve root on the link provided right? Anyone can confirm this?
I luv yah all!
EDIT: and yes it's working.....root achieved

Yup that's the root method I used as well works very well
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BloodBaron said:
Yup that's the root method I used as well works very well
Sent from my LG-E971 using xda premium
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Yeah, I need to make my searching skills better. I did not know that there is A "Super One-Click Root" for ICS/JB. I believe in 2.2 and 2.3 days, there is one like this piece of rooting method but the development stopped after 2.3 for ICS has a very different system. Now some genius came up with this one....simply awesome!
EDIT: and it is a good idea to push "SuperSU" rather than the traditional Superuser app. It works better on Android devices with a custom UI on it. In other notes, I unlocked the bootloader (i think) but I don't see any indications on boot screen whatsoever that indicates that the device is unlocked. Maybe I failed on the boot loader unlock...

joncwchao said:
From what I've read Rogers has the standard AWS frequency LTE, but is also rolling out an additional 2600MHz network in addition to AWS, providing a nice empty spectrum and supposedly better coverage in rural areas. This is supposed to be in partnership with Bell, but Bell is apparently not supporting the frequency at this time. This lead to my issues with Bell LTE linked in the OP.
In theory, if you have 2600MHz coverage, you should be able to get better throughput due to the empty spectrum, but in practice (from my limited testing) you get generally the same speeds as any other Rogers LTE phone (such as the iPhone, which is not using 2600MHz).
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Correct
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Successor G2: motorola Droid 4 or samsung relay 4G ?

Which one should I buy to replace my g2 ?
I really don't know.
The Droid 4 is older, but how is the keyboard and processor compared to the relay 4G ?
I will use the 900 and 2100 3G band in belgium, gsm network (I'll need to apply a patch each time I flash a rom).

Personally i have the Huawei U8730 (T-Mobile MyTouch Q) but there's other phone like Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G SGH-T699, HTC myTouch 4G Slide, Motorola Droid 4

magikstar said:
Personally i have the Huawei U8730 (T-Mobile MyTouch Q) but there's other phone like Samsung Galaxy S Relay 4G SGH-T699, HTC myTouch 4G Slide, Motorola Droid 4
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But there isn't a forum for the Huawei U8730 I think ? No cm 10.2 yet ?

I'm gonna be moving on to Jolla

Whippler said:
I'm gonna be moving on to Jolla
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edit: to expensive for me.

robuser007 said:
Which one should I buy to replace my g2 ?
I really don't know.
The Droid 4 is older, but how is the keyboard and processor compared to the relay 4G ?
I will use the 900 and 2100 3G band in belgium, gsm network (I'll need to apply a patch each time I flash a rom).
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I'm not a G2 owner but think I have my opinion.
Definitely the Relay, if you don't mind the backlit keyboard of D4. Relay has a far superior CPU (msm8960 board) and this chipset is widely used in popular devices, so we can expect continued development. For now both Relay and D4 have official CM10.2, but Relay has actively updated 3.4 kernel.
Speaking of msm8960, Moto's Photon Q (GSM variant) has the same CPU and is yet another upgrade from the Relay - ever considered it? Availability or price issue?
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM10.2

AndyYan said:
I'm not a G2 owner but think I have my opinion.
Definitely the Relay, if you don't mind the backlit keyboard of D4. Relay has a far superior CPU (msm8960 board) and this chipset is widely used in popular devices, so we can expect continued development. For now both Relay and D4 have official CM10.2, but Relay has actively updated 3.4 kernel.
Speaking of msm8960, Moto's Photon Q (GSM variant) has the same CPU and is yet another upgrade from the Relay - ever considered it? Availability or price issue?
Sent from Google Nexus 4 @ CM10.2
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D4 doesn't work on US GSM carriers like t-mobile.....went looking at this phone and before I am glad I checked before buying one...

bradley_e_smith said:
D4 doesn't work on US GSM carriers like t-mobile.....went looking at this phone and before I am glad I checked before buying one...
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Wrong, it does (though maybe not out-of-the-box). Here in China, resellers modify D4, Photon Q and many Verizon/Sprint devices to be usable with both CDMA and GSM/WCDMA (supports AT&T/T-Mo bands) - because they are hardware-wise capable of doing so, just Verizon/Sprint limited it for own profit.

AndyYan said:
Wrong, it does (though maybe not out-of-the-box). Here in China, resellers modify D4, Photon Q and many Verizon/Sprint devices to be usable with both CDMA and GSM/WCDMA (supports AT&T/T-Mo bands) - because they are hardware-wise capable of doing so, just Verizon/Sprint limited it for own profit.
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It might work there, but here in the US, it doesn't work. So if one is in the US looking for a G2 replacement, this is not the phone to use.

bradley_e_smith said:
It might work there, but here in the US, it doesn't work. So if one is in the US looking for a G2 replacement, this is not the phone to use.
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But I live outside the US: Belgium, Europe.
@AndyYan: Thxs for your vision on the relay 4G, I'll buy one !

I had a desire z myself and I got a relay when it broke. It's really worth it! I just do not like the bloatware samsung put on it, hence I now have cm10.2 runninh quite smoothly. I imported mine via negri electronics.

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Not related to G2/Desire Z.
Please post such threads in General Forum
Thanks