Nexus vs Galaxy S2 LTE - Samsung Galaxy Nexus

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Ok so I haven't seen that many reviews on the Rogers version of Samsung galaxy S2 LTE (not the HD from korea). Right now I debating between which one I should pick up. I had a Samsung S1 (i9000m from Bell) and I've always loved it. I love modding phones (ie custom ROM and other stuff). I plan on doing on these as well. The pros for S2 LTE is that: it is LTE compatible, 8mp back 2mp front camera, slight better processor (though I doubt there will be a big difference in performance).
Wheres the Nexus pros is that it is HD and has ICS, slightly better battery life, and of course being nexus, first in line for updates. The screen is also slightly bigger. It just sucks that the LTE from rogers isn't HD like the korean counterpart.
I do live in a LTE enabled zone so I will be able to utilize it (6GB data plan). Any thought on what phone is better? I've went in and tested both out and I honestly can't decide. I love the screen on the nexus but also the camera + LTE on the S2 balances out.

Deviatorz said:
First off I'm sorry if this is the wrong forum, MODs please move if it is.
Ok so I haven't seen that many reviews on the Rogers version of Samsung galaxy S2 LTE (not the HD from korea). Right now I debating between which one I should pick up. I had a Samsung S1 (i9000m from Bell) and I've always loved it. I love modding phones (ie custom ROM and other stuff). I plan on doing on these as well. The pros for S2 LTE is that: it is LTE compatible, 8mp back 2mp front camera, slight better processor (though I doubt there will be a big difference in performance).
Wheres the Nexus pros is that it is HD and has ICS, slightly better battery life, and of course being nexus, first in line for updates. The screen is also slightly bigger. It just sucks that the LTE from rogers isn't HD like the korean counterpart.
I do live in a LTE enabled zone so I will be able to utilize it (6GB data plan). Any thought on what phone is better? I've went in and tested both out and I honestly can't decide. I love the screen on the nexus but also the camera + LTE on the S2 balances out.
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Personally I'd go with the Nexus because the processor is almost up to par with the Exynos in the GSII vs the GSII LTE has a Qualcomm Snapdragon, which for day to day tasks is good, but GPU performance is nowhere near the Mali 400 in the Exynos.
AT&T has the Galaxy S II Skyrocket HD which is pretty much the Korean GSII with a 4-button layout. It sounds exactly like what you're looking for.

Had the at&t galaxy s2 lte and took it back. Qualcomm snapdragon sucks compared to the omap in fhe nexus, but had to use it for lte.
Nexus is so much more fluid day to day i would not look twice at the lte unless you really need limited lte .

Sounds like nexus is still the top. I might just pick it up. Idk something about the shape of the phone just doesn't catch me. Btw is the nexus 4G capable? While looking through the specs, it said its 3G or maybe that website is wrong?

Deviatorz said:
Sounds like nexus is still the top. I might just pick it up. Idk something about the shape of the phone just doesn't catch me. Btw is the nexus 4G capable? While looking through the specs, it said its 3G or maybe that website is wrong?
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It supports 4G on both GSM & LTE variants of the phone.

Deviatorz said:
Sounds like nexus is still the top. I might just pick it up. Idk something about the shape of the phone just doesn't catch me. Btw is the nexus 4G capable? While looking through the specs, it said its 3G or maybe that website is wrong?
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It is an HSPA+ device. Which is the faster 3G on AT&T (like "4G"). It is not LTE on AT&T.
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It supports 4G on both GSM & LTE variants of the phone.
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Ehhh. It supports HSPA+ on the GSM version. and it supports LTE on the CDMA version.

martonikaj said:
It is an HSPA+ device. Which is the faster 3G on AT&T (like "4G"). It is not LTE on AT&T.
Ehhh. It supports HSPA+ on the GSM version. and it supports LTE on the CDMA version.
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In USA, AT&T and T-Mobile markets HSPA+ as 4G.
LTE is marketed as 4G.
Therefore, the GSM & LTE both supports 4G.

I don't believe it supports Tmo's 42mbps network, however. Or does it?

zephiK said:
In USA, AT&T and T-Mobile markets HSPA+ as 4G.
LTE is marketed as 4G.
Therefore, the GSM & LTE both supports 4G.
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Yes very true, but considering OP is comparing to a 4G LTE device on AT&T, it is a good idea to make the distinction that the Galaxy Nexus is HSPA+ and the Skyrocket (SGSII LTE) is an LTE phone.
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I don't believe it supports Tmo's 42mbps network, however. Or does it?
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It is only 21mbps. Anything over 14.4mbps T-Mobile calls 4G, however.
T-Mobile only has a couple 42mbps phones I think. The SGSII and the HTC Amaze 4G are the only 2 that come to mind.

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[Q] Skyrocket or Samsung Galaxy S 2 Tmobile

i have the option for either but idk which is better i will be using it with tmobile whichever phone i get but arent they almost exactly the same but the only difference is LTE and the headphone jack right?
tmobile doesn't have lte
So with the att model it's better to interchange because you can get lte on att and H+ on tmobile, while tmobile model you only get H+ for both carriers.
Most tmobile users stick to it's model because of warranty and insurance
Headphone jack?
The cosmetics is different... That's it. I think the skyrocket looks more slick.
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http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2894&id2=3212
Good side by side, but some detailed specs missing.. I don't see Skyrocket mentioning having the UMTS1700/2100 (B4) band for access to Tmobile 3G+
EDIT: But here it does show under 4G, http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_skyrocket_i727-4303.php
REF: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_t989-4129.php
EDIT2: T989 Also shows as handling HSDPA+ @42 Mbps - I think that is why AT&T opt'd for this new SGS2 with Snapdragon for the same reason, over the previous I9100's Exynos (which is faster than T989 & i727) but can only handle up HSDPA+ @21 Mbs.
clockcycle said:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2894&id2=3212
Good side by side, but some detailed specs missing..
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lol yeah as you can see, its the same thing lol
The missing details in comparisons is the fault of whoever made those specs. except skyrocket has LTE. basically it.
clockcycle said:
http://pdadb.net/index.php?m=pdacomparer&id1=2894&id2=3212
Good side by side, but some detailed specs missing.. I don't see Skyrocket mentioning having the UMTS1700/2100 (B4) band for access to Tmobile 3G+
EDIT: But here it does show under 4G, http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_skyrocket_i727-4303.php
REF: http://www.gsmarena.com/samsung_galaxy_s_ii_t989-4129.php
EDIT2: T989 Also shows as handling HSDPA+ @42 Mbps - I think that is why AT&T opt'd for this new SGS2 with Snapdragon for the same reason, over the previous I9100's Exynos (which is faster than T989 & i727) but can only handle up HSDPA+ @21 Mbs.
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With the right radio, the Skyrocket supports the 1700(B4) and also supports 42mbps DC-HSPA. It's basically the same phone with the added LTE in case you switch in the future

Should i buy a t-mobile branded Galaxy S II or the AT&T branded Skyrocket

The title says it all im really not sure which one. I have T-Mobile but i can get the AT&T skyrocket now for a little bit cheaper than the T-mobile Galaxy S II. My problem is that i am not down to lose my HSPA+ speeds with T-mobile. Because the phone will be AT&T and not T-mobile. But I do know that the skyrocket does indeed have the T-mobile HSPA+ speeds. I am fairily android savvy so i can most likely figure out all that stuff you know? But if I do go the AT&T route does the phone work flawlessly just like it would as if I had the T-mobile version? Or will battery life take a hit? etc?
rawr4dj said:
The title says it all im really not sure which one. I have T-Mobile but i can get the AT&T skyrocket now for a little bit cheaper than the T-mobile Galaxy S II. My problem is that i am not down to lose my HSPA+ speeds with T-mobile. Because the phone will be AT&T and not T-mobile. But I do know that the skyrocket does indeed have the T-mobile HSPA+ speeds. I am fairily android savvy so i can most likely figure out all that stuff you know? But if I do go the AT&T route does the phone work flawlessly just like it would as if I had the T-mobile version? Or will battery life take a hit? etc?
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Skyrocket does not support t-mobile's HSPA+ if it did there would be no need for the different variants. If you use 4g get the t989. You can buy it from me if you want i will give you a better deal than your getting i bet
Actually IT does, but how much are you selling yours for?
rawr4dj said:
The title says it all im really not sure which one. I have T-Mobile but i can get the AT&T skyrocket now for a little bit cheaper than the T-mobile Galaxy S II. My problem is that i am not down to lose my HSPA+ speeds with T-mobile. Because the phone will be AT&T and not T-mobile. But I do know that the skyrocket does indeed have the T-mobile HSPA+ speeds. I am fairily android savvy so i can most likely figure out all that stuff you know? But if I do go the AT&T route does the phone work flawlessly just like it would as if I had the T-mobile version? Or will battery life take a hit? etc?
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You would need to flash a tmobile radio to get 4g.
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I think that the skyrocket is a better phone if only because it has the exynos processor.
8Fishes said:
I think that the skyrocket is a better phone if only because it has the exynos processor.
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No. It doesn't. Stop spreading misinformation.
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8Fishes said:
I think that the skyrocket is a better phone if only because it has the exynos processor.
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You need to do a bit more research. It does not have the exynos chip set it has the same chip set the t-mobile variant has.
Id get the Skyrocket. Just 'cuz if you ever switch to ATT, you'll get LTE.
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death1246 said:
You need to do a bit more research. It does not have the exynos chip set it has the same chip set the t-mobile variant has.
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OH that's right.. I was thinking of the i777.. and not i727. Stupid numbering. I guess there's no reason to get it other than LTE bands? It should have that last I heard.. don't think that's a deal breaker.

Difference between CDMA and GSM?

When I ordered my Galaxy Nexys, I was told I would get the GSM version. I heard the CDMA version was only for Americans and under Verizon.
What differes the two other than the names and networks? Do they differ much in hardware?
IIRC, the CDMA version also supports 4G LTE technology?
Theshawty said:
When I ordered my Galaxy Nexys, I was told I would get the GSM version. I heard the CDMA version was only for Americans and under Verizon.
What differes the two other than the names and networks? Do they differ much in hardware?
IIRC, the CDMA version also supports 4G LTE technology?
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From what I understand the GSM version is for international use (If you're in the USA) and AT&T, and the CDMA version is Verizon 4G LTE only.
^What he said. Hardware wise, the CDMA variant is a tad bit thicker on account of the 4G LTE. Not really noticeable though. Either one is good in my book.
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SocialReject said:
^What he said. Hardware wise, the CDMA variant is a tad bit thicker on account of the 4G LTE. Not really noticeable though. Either one is good in my book.
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Gsm model is significantly better in terms of battery life.
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zephiK said:
Gsm model is significantly better in terms of battery life.
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Correct. GSM version is thinner and gets superb idle battery usage.
I don't have a GSM...but I don't understand that.
My CDMA version gets fantastic battery.
If you're topping 23 hours off charger with 3 hours 16 minutes screen time...
Cool. But that isn't "bad" to me...by any means.
GSM, as explained...is used by practically every cell phone company.
The CDMA version runs "LTE" 4G. GSM is "HSPA+"
LTE is supposedly faster...by a little bit.
Really, the choice is all about convenience for you.
LTE is faster by quite a margin, if you aren't in a signal poor area. LTE will actually scale down to 3G speeds in fringe areas.
Also, if your phone is set to CDMA onlly, the battery difference from GSM isn't that much.

fake? Craigslist ad claims "LTE GSM Gnex"

http://orlando.craigslist.org/mob/2976413972.html
I looked up the version he said he had. It's some Korean version.
The ad claims claims it's a GSM LTE version (not verizon lte version). I have both verizon and att service so can use either. I also have unlimited data on both.
Anyways, we all know the Verizon Gnex CDMA antenna is not very good. I had since day 1. Loved the phone, hated the antenna. My verizon LTE ipad gets LTE signal at home wheras my Verizon LTE Galaxy Nexus never picks up LTE signal at home or other areas of Orlando.
I have the Nokia Lumia 900 and I know ATT LTE coverage is very strong in Orlando as well as Verizon.
So wondering if this is a fake LTE GSM gnex? I am sure it's fake but does the guy think he's fooling some people claiming it gets LTE signal?
Most likely fake.
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Edit: 1) It's a GSM Galaxy Nexus box picture.
2) Korean Galaxy Nexuses come with 1750 and 2000 mah battery (apparently)
3) http://www.samsung.com/sec/consumer/mobile-phone/smart-phone/kt/SHW-M420KTSKC-spec thats the model that he posted. Support Specifications WCDMA / GSM
Even if it were a GSM/LTE device, you'd still have to be ultra careful about the LTE bands, because there are like 170 different LTE bands planned by carriers, world wide.
It's going to be a huge mess.
It's most likely fake. Even if it has a Lte radio, it doesn't mean it will work on At&t's Lte bands.
I actually talked to the guy. He goes to asia a lot. He actually was an educated dude and travels to asia a lot.
It is the Korean model like you guys say. He confirmed it. He says Korean run a 1.7/1.8 LTE band in S Korea now.
So I guess it's got LTE but it sure doesn't help me in the USA since it will not pick up LTE signal with ATT.
Yup the only GSM Galaxy Nexus with LTE is the i9250K which as stated above is the South Korean Galaxy Nexus
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Probably is LTE and very probably won't work on LTE in the US.
So, he's probably being truthful but it probably won't work.
Probably.
Just meet him, place your AT&T SIM in it and see what happens. If it doesn't work, offer $250 on the spot. After he cools down, walk away empty handed.

So uh, how come T-Mobile didn't get quad core?

This is an old rumor & article, but i was just wondering what happened and how come we didn't get quad core. Not that i'm complaining- 2GB of ram is probably more useful, anyhow.
Will the USA 4G LTE Samsung Galaxy S3 have the same fate than the HTC One X 4G LTE, which shipped with a dual-core chip instead of the quad-core chip that was demonstrated with at Mobile World Congress? We don’t know, but it’s possible and it that was the case, T-Mobile would be the only carrier in the USA to feature a quad-core Samsung Galaxy S3, simply because T-Mobile is HSPA+ only, for now. Btw, this is speculation is also valid for the HTC One X.
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http://api.viglink.com/api/click?fo...y-s3-4-core/&jsonp=vglnk_jsonp_13446329177651
The quad core exynos in the international S3 had HSPA+ support for only up to 21 MBPS. T-Mobile, on the other hand, preferred to take advantage of their entire 42 MBPS HSPA+ frequency, which requires certain radio bands that the Exynos couldn't support, so they went with a compatible Snapdragon S4 instead.
Hayhay said:
The quad core exynos in the international S3 had HSPA+ support for only up to 21 MBPS. T-Mobile, on the other hand, preferred to take advantage of their entire 42 MBPS HSPA+ frequency, which requires certain radio bands that the Exynos couldn't support, so they went with a compatible Snapdragon S4 instead.
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ahh i see, thanks for clearing that up. will there be a push to move ALL carriers eventually to LTE network, due to spectrum space? seems t-mobile has no plans of moving to LTE, at least not anytime soon.
That's because HSPA+ at 42mbps is still faster than LTE, but T-Mobile does have plans for LTE in the near future, we were told we wouldn't get it on this phone no matter when it rolls out
they do have plans for an lte network.
http://mashable.com/2012/06/25/t-mobile-verizon-spectrum-deal/
I'd take Tmobile's 42mbps HSPA+ network over LTE any day. Decent fast speeds with much better battery life.
babymatteo said:
I'd take Tmobile's 42mbps HSPA+ network over LTE any day. Decent fast speeds with much better battery life.
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babymatteo said:
I'd take Tmobile's 42mbps HSPA+ network over LTE any day. Decent fast speeds with much better battery life.
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I agree. I mean for those wanting LTE have you seen the speeds in comparison to our hspa+? Not much of a difference. LTE probably has faster upload speeds but Imo that doest justify the crazy battery life it yields.
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