Given the fun and FUD surrounding the AT&T-Mobile merge, does anyone know of an Android phone that can play 3g on *anyone's* GSM network? I noticed that the crApple Ipuke 4 has 4 3g bands (presumably so they can have "One SKU to connect them all") Are there any Droids with that capability?
There are some phones listed as "Coming Soon" under the tmo site that have all bands. I'm not sure that any are available at this time.
tronmech said:
Given the fun and FUD surrounding the AT&T-Mobile merge, does anyone know of an Android phone that can play 3g on *anyone's* GSM network? I noticed that the crApple Ipuke 4 has 4 3g bands (presumably so they can have "One SKU to connect them all") Are there any Droids with that capability?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So far the only phone capable of ALL GSM Bands is Nokia N8. No Android or Windows or the Apple is capable of doing so as of now... iPhone doesn't support 1700...
AT&T might have such a phone in future if the merger ever happens... And man, that will be an awesome feeling to have a phone of my choice of OS and I don't have to bother being restricted with one career...
I am worried, if Canada will ever see that phone... :-(
The Samsung Vibrant has the 1900 band which works for AT&T (AT&T use 850,1900), so it may cover all area, but it works in NYC
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA App
creativedevil said:
... And man, that will be an awesome feeling to have a phone of my choice of OS and I don't have to bother being restricted with one career...
(
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Lol cell phone career giving you choice? Thats the best joke i have ever heard
Not sure what the original question is exactly, because GSM is really only one band around 900 Mhz. My understanding is this is normally used for EDGE, and 3G speeds / HSPA usually occurs only on the much higher frequencies.
And technically speaking, there is no GSM in the Americas, only in Eurasia. Here we have 850Mhz which should be referred to as CLR not GSM.
But if you're talking about Android phones that are 3G capable on both AWS frequencies (T-Mobile) and PCS (AT&T, Bell), check out the newly-announced LG G2X. Appears to have frequency bands for both, as well of course as CLR (Edge speeds).
The iPhone 4 does *NOT* have such a radio.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
The N1 has you covered on most bands, but not quite all of them. By the time the merger goes through, though, there will probably be more and better options.
linkmaster_6 said:
Lol cell phone career giving you choice? Thats the best joke i have ever heard
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hahaha very funny, isn't it? Well, its not... cuz you obviously didn't get the point... Its not a choice given by career, its about the the contracts you have to go with... and if there ever is a phone which can support all the frequencies, it will give an option to switch between any GSM providers. Currently it is only possible with Nokia N8...
The G2x should support all popular bands.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA Premium App
Anomaly said:
The G2x should support all popular bands.
Sent from my HTC Vision using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Unfortunately it doesn't for 3G connection.
http://www.gsmarena.com/t_mobile_g2x-3888.php
Related
May have been asked already .
HD7 support WCDMA 850mhz? if so how to enable?
850 mhz wcdma is 3G... why?
hardcoreplur said:
850 mhz wcdma is 3G... why?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Cos I know it supports "3G" 900/2100mhz just wanting to know if in anyway 850mhz has been disabled andcan be enabled.
A carrier here in New Zealand is using 850mhz and has 2100mhz as a fill in but 2100 in my area is limited.
No.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
i wouldn't flat out say no. it is widely known that the HD7 will be coming to telstra in australia "early 2011". why do i say this? well telstra's 3G network is running on 850mhz.
so who knows, when it comes here you might get lucky.
Yeah a lot of people in the US on AT&T import Telstra handsets because the frequencies are the same, so when the HD7 gets released here it should do.
The tmobile hd7s dont have that band. so No.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
just because the t-mobile one doesn't, does not mean all HD7 can't. I'm pretty sure it is similar to windows mobile where a different radio is flashed into the phone to get them to work.
In any case, the word around is jan/feb release for the HTC HD7 on the Telstra network.
I have a HTC HD7 already , It came from Germany.
The Gate Keeper said:
just because the t-mobile one doesn't, does not mean all HD7 can't. I'm pretty sure it is similar to windows mobile where a different radio is flashed into the phone to get them to work.
In any case, the word around is jan/feb release for the HTC HD7 on the Telstra network.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
The one youre talking about doesnt even exist yet. You habe no basis for disagreement, tbh.
The US HD7 doesnt have the band. Whether the Euro one does is up in the air (I'll check later).
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
doesn't even exist? sure it's not on the shelf, but tesltra were confident they would be getting it. why so negative for? did i ever say "yes it definitely exists"? no. i'm just saying that your flat out no shouldn't be taken as gospel.
The Gate Keeper said:
doesn't even exist? sure it's not on the shelf, but tesltra were confident they would be getting it. why so negative for? did i ever say "yes it definitely exists"? no. i'm just saying that your flat out no shouldn't be taken as gospel.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
If you cant buy it it practically is nonexistent. Dont feel like soing semantics with you. Have a nice day.
Anyone in the US: the TMobile HD7 wont habe this 3g band.
Sent from my SGH-T959 using XDA App
I see these words on some threads in development section. Could you please tell What are they ?
It's a network, GSM is 2G and CDMA is 3G. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Giankwang said:
It's a network, GSM is 2G and CDMA is 3G. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
GSM now more describes a umbrella of generations rather than specifically 2G I reckon.
To the OP thought GSM and CDMA are simply terms used to describe different systems used for mobile phone networks.
GSM is the more popular.
AstroZombie1 said:
GSM now more describes a umbrella of generations rather than specifically 2G I reckon.
To the OP thought GSM and CDMA are simply terms used to describe different systems used for mobile phone networks.
GSM is the more popular.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
OOPSS!!
Sorry, I didn't really know about that . My mistake.
Giankwang said:
It's a network, GSM is 2G and CDMA is 3G. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Dis guys answer is the 1 u want other guys was just buffling with knowlege unneeded
AstroZombie1 said:
GSM now more describes a umbrella of generations rather than specifically 2G I reckon.
To the OP thought GSM and CDMA are simply terms used to describe different systems used for mobile phone networks.
GSM is the more popular.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
GSM is more popular outside of the US. CDMA is used by most US cell providers.
cdma is mostly provider verizon
Difference between GSM and CDMA
In cellular service there are two main competing network technologies: Global System for Mobile Communications (GSM) and Code Division Multiple Access (CDMA).
Both boast "3G" standards, or 3rd generation technologies.
Only GSM phones use SIM cards. CDMA carriers require proprietary handsets that are linked to one carrier only and are not card-enabled (for the most part).
http://www.wisegeek.com/what-is-the-difference-between-gsm-and-cdma.htm
At& t and t-mobile usethe gsm system.
Sprint and verizon use cdma.
The two frequencies are incompatible.
Sent from my R800x using xda premium
netizenmt said:
GSM is more popular outside of the US. CDMA is used by most US cell providers.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Hence why it'd be more popular as the rest of the world is evidently bigger than the US. Also it's actually more popular and practical as you can use phones ( that are GSM ,) anywhere , with any carrier in the entire world , provided you just unlock your phone of course, so .. Practicality = GSM, usability = GSM, freedom= GSM , better phones actually = GSM.
Sent from my R800i using xda premium
Giankwang said:
It's a network, GSM is 2G and CDMA is 3G. Correct me if I'm wrong.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Thats GSM and WCDMA not CDMA
Sent from my R800i using Tapatalk
jpzzle said:
Hence why it'd be more popular as the rest of the world is evidently bigger than the US. Also it's actually more popular and practical as you can use phones ( that are GSM ,) anywhere , with any carrier in the entire world , provided you just unlock your phone of course, so .. Practicality = GSM, usability = GSM, freedom= GSM , better phones actually = GSM.
Sent from my R800i using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I beleve some networks in japan and china use CDMA too.
Sent from my R800i using Tapatalk
I figured this would be the best place for a post. I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus in Australia and with Telstra's new 4G LTE network being recently introduced, is there anyway I could enable my device to pick up the signal? It should be on the standard 1800MHz frequency, though it may not be prioritising it as the connection if that's the case.
It should technically be possible assuming the phone can pick up 1800MHz (which after some searching, it can afaik). It's more of a question of how.
Thanks in advance.
I don't believe this is possible but I sure do hope it could be.
I am in a Telstra 4G LTE area but currently using Next-G.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Simmo3D said:
I don't believe this is possible but I sure do hope it could be.
I am in a Telstra 4G LTE area but currently using Next-G.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
They are apparently to be getting an upgrade via Telstra to support LTE, so it should be possible. Unless I was lied to, which is always possible when you put the back-of-house tech guys on the spot. This will apparently be happening late in the year though, and it seems stupid to wait that long when the facilities are already there to be used.
I thought the GN was only capable of 21Mbps max.
Looking through the specs, GSM GPRS and EDGE support 1800MHz but HSPA does not...
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
The Telstra HSPA uses 850MHz band from memory, the new Telstra LTE uses 1800MHz. Even if the device is limited to 21Mbps, I'd at least like to be able to get to that speed.
Hoping someone knows how.
GSM and LTE are two different platforms. It's like trying to use a AMD processor in a Intel socket. It just doesn't work.
zephiK said:
GSM and LTE are two different platforms. It's like trying to use a AMD processor in a Intel socket. It just doesn't work.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
So even though it has the capability to pick up 1800MHz, it's impossible to utilise it?
Antonioffaxii said:
So even though it has the capability to pick up 1800MHz, it's impossible to utilise it?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Most likely, yes.
That's odd, and disappointing
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
Well,
There are LTE versions around, and I'm wondering whether they will work with Telstra or not. Another question is about possibility of flashing LTE firmware onto GSM phone and recovering it back if something goes wrong. Has anybody tried that?
Avalonnw said:
Well,
There are LTE versions around, and I'm wondering whether they will work with Telstra or not.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
It will not work. There aren't "LTE versions". There is 1 LTE version being sold (1 more on the way for Sprint), and its a CDMA/LTE device from Verizon USA.
Another question is about possibility of flashing LTE firmware onto GSM phone and recovering it back if something goes wrong. Has anybody tried that?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Best case scenario you just ODIN back to GSM firmware. Worst case, you brick your phone.
Don't try it. It won't work. Waste of time. Flashing different firmware to the phone isn't going to change the physical radios in the device. Just buy an i9250 and you'll get HSPA+.
Yeah just to make it clear in case there's any confusion, the nexus will absolutely not work with lte. Not possible at all, no way to flash anything etc. It is missing the hardware needed.
Sometime a go, there was a thread about variants of GNEX, from comments I understand that all GSM are same, only radio software is different,
but on some sites it not mention all 5 3G bands, and only 3 for Europe,
also what about 2.4 and 5 Ghz for WIFI? is it also suffers for Europe or something? or not? I kind of stuck, I really want the device with all standard accessories, mostly the charger, and not search for it, after I buy,
and also be sure it support 850 & 2100 for 3G, the S have also many variants, as SII have toooo many of them, so how can I find out about that issue?
As I said in the other thread... They're all pentaband. Every single model. And yes they support 5ghz wifi.
martonikaj said:
As I said in the other thread... They're all pentaband. Every single model. And yes they support 5ghz wifi.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Well all but the CDMA (Verizon USA model)
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
_Dennis_ said:
Well all but the CDMA (Verizon USA model)
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sorry yes. Obviously. You would've had to read the really long thread before where OP wouldn't take my word for it that any i9250 is pentaband...
I think I got it now, I just used to that for US & EU have different frequency devices, see I used to work to one of the mobile manufacturers, and we have sometime 2 type of devices, one for EU and other for US, and maybe it's hard to believe that unicorns exists, heh on the second hand, on old GSM it also not always a "world" phones so it do make sense,
and another funny thing, also 850 band I actually US, here in Israel we use it..because of the ARMY ...to make things even worse, the QUAD GSM no worth to much, as 2 of our providers that still have GSM, have only 1 frequency, the solution was to "share" the networks ,We do have HSPA+, but the future will be LTE ..dunno why, also no 4G here ,the mobile internet cost to much and slow as ****
In the US?
Sent from my EVO 4G using XDA
Look onto getting the evo 4g lte if you want a one x on sprint
Sent from my SGH-I777 using xda premium
Android310 said:
In the US?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Since you're on an international forum, technically the phone doesn't work with any 4G carrier. 4G is defined as LTE or better. It's an HSPA+ phone capable of 21MB throughput on a compatible 3G network. Only in the U.S. is HSPA+ called 4G but what AT&T and T-Mobile are using is in fact 3G. They are the only two GSM carriers in the U.S. T-Mobile U.S. uses AWS (1700/2100) which isn't compatible with either One X (or most other phones). Their refarming their network so that data can be carried in the 1900Mhz spectrum. At that point most GSM phones will be compatible. But by the time their done the Two X will be out.
The Evo 4G which is a totally different phone supporting CDMA and LTE would work on VZW as they're a CDMA carrier also. Whether they carry a version of it or not is anyone's guess. Other than running Sense 4.0 and having a Qualcomm chip there's little in common between the One X's and the Evo 4G.
Thanks Barry.
Sent from my EVO 4G using XDA
Didn't even know I was on a international forum. I thought xda was mainly only US.
Sent from my EVO 4G using XDA
BarryH_GEG said:
4G is defined as LTE or better. It's an HSPA+ phone capable of 21MB throughput on a compatible 3G network.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/LTE_(telecommunication)
LTE isn't 4G either.
"Although marketed as a 4G wireless service, LTE as specified in the 3GPP Release 8 and 9 document series does not satisfy the technical requirements the 3GPP consortium has adopted for its new standard generation, and which are set forth by the ITU-R organization in its IMT-Advanced specification."
But it is a forerunner technology(4G candidate system), along with HSPA+.
http://www.itu.int/net/pressoffice/press_releases/2010/48.aspx
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/4G#Data_rate_comparison
I personally believe that the term 4G should be discontinued and we should only refer to the actual cell technology instead of what is now a marketing term.
TheAndroidSwap said:
I personally believe that the term 4G should be discontinued and we should only refer to the actual cell technology instead of what is now a marketing term.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I agree and knew by strict definition LTE as it's currently implemented isn't 4G. But, especially in the U.S., it's confused the hell out of people so to say HSPA+ isn't 4G and that even what's closest (LTE) isn't either would just confuse them further. LTE's a lot closer to 4G than it is to 3G where HSPA+ has nothing to do with 4G at all.