I figured this would be the best place for a post. I have a GSM Galaxy Nexus in Australia and with Telstra's new 4G LTE network being recently introduced, is there anyway I could enable my device to pick up the signal? It should be on the standard 1800MHz frequency, though it may not be prioritising it as the connection if that's the case.
It should technically be possible assuming the phone can pick up 1800MHz (which after some searching, it can afaik). It's more of a question of how.
Thanks in advance.
I don't believe this is possible but I sure do hope it could be.
I am in a Telstra 4G LTE area but currently using Next-G.
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Simmo3D said:
I don't believe this is possible but I sure do hope it could be.
I am in a Telstra 4G LTE area but currently using Next-G.
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They are apparently to be getting an upgrade via Telstra to support LTE, so it should be possible. Unless I was lied to, which is always possible when you put the back-of-house tech guys on the spot. This will apparently be happening late in the year though, and it seems stupid to wait that long when the facilities are already there to be used.
I thought the GN was only capable of 21Mbps max.
Looking through the specs, GSM GPRS and EDGE support 1800MHz but HSPA does not...
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The Telstra HSPA uses 850MHz band from memory, the new Telstra LTE uses 1800MHz. Even if the device is limited to 21Mbps, I'd at least like to be able to get to that speed.
Hoping someone knows how.
GSM and LTE are two different platforms. It's like trying to use a AMD processor in a Intel socket. It just doesn't work.
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GSM and LTE are two different platforms. It's like trying to use a AMD processor in a Intel socket. It just doesn't work.
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So even though it has the capability to pick up 1800MHz, it's impossible to utilise it?
Antonioffaxii said:
So even though it has the capability to pick up 1800MHz, it's impossible to utilise it?
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Most likely, yes.
That's odd, and disappointing
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Well,
There are LTE versions around, and I'm wondering whether they will work with Telstra or not. Another question is about possibility of flashing LTE firmware onto GSM phone and recovering it back if something goes wrong. Has anybody tried that?
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Well,
There are LTE versions around, and I'm wondering whether they will work with Telstra or not.
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It will not work. There aren't "LTE versions". There is 1 LTE version being sold (1 more on the way for Sprint), and its a CDMA/LTE device from Verizon USA.
Another question is about possibility of flashing LTE firmware onto GSM phone and recovering it back if something goes wrong. Has anybody tried that?
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Best case scenario you just ODIN back to GSM firmware. Worst case, you brick your phone.
Don't try it. It won't work. Waste of time. Flashing different firmware to the phone isn't going to change the physical radios in the device. Just buy an i9250 and you'll get HSPA+.
Yeah just to make it clear in case there's any confusion, the nexus will absolutely not work with lte. Not possible at all, no way to flash anything etc. It is missing the hardware needed.
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Given the fun and FUD surrounding the AT&T-Mobile merge, does anyone know of an Android phone that can play 3g on *anyone's* GSM network? I noticed that the crApple Ipuke 4 has 4 3g bands (presumably so they can have "One SKU to connect them all") Are there any Droids with that capability?
There are some phones listed as "Coming Soon" under the tmo site that have all bands. I'm not sure that any are available at this time.
tronmech said:
Given the fun and FUD surrounding the AT&T-Mobile merge, does anyone know of an Android phone that can play 3g on *anyone's* GSM network? I noticed that the crApple Ipuke 4 has 4 3g bands (presumably so they can have "One SKU to connect them all") Are there any Droids with that capability?
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So far the only phone capable of ALL GSM Bands is Nokia N8. No Android or Windows or the Apple is capable of doing so as of now... iPhone doesn't support 1700...
AT&T might have such a phone in future if the merger ever happens... And man, that will be an awesome feeling to have a phone of my choice of OS and I don't have to bother being restricted with one career...
I am worried, if Canada will ever see that phone... :-(
The Samsung Vibrant has the 1900 band which works for AT&T (AT&T use 850,1900), so it may cover all area, but it works in NYC
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... And man, that will be an awesome feeling to have a phone of my choice of OS and I don't have to bother being restricted with one career...
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Lol cell phone career giving you choice? Thats the best joke i have ever heard
Not sure what the original question is exactly, because GSM is really only one band around 900 Mhz. My understanding is this is normally used for EDGE, and 3G speeds / HSPA usually occurs only on the much higher frequencies.
And technically speaking, there is no GSM in the Americas, only in Eurasia. Here we have 850Mhz which should be referred to as CLR not GSM.
But if you're talking about Android phones that are 3G capable on both AWS frequencies (T-Mobile) and PCS (AT&T, Bell), check out the newly-announced LG G2X. Appears to have frequency bands for both, as well of course as CLR (Edge speeds).
The iPhone 4 does *NOT* have such a radio.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/UMTS_frequency_bands
The N1 has you covered on most bands, but not quite all of them. By the time the merger goes through, though, there will probably be more and better options.
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Lol cell phone career giving you choice? Thats the best joke i have ever heard
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Hahaha very funny, isn't it? Well, its not... cuz you obviously didn't get the point... Its not a choice given by career, its about the the contracts you have to go with... and if there ever is a phone which can support all the frequencies, it will give an option to switch between any GSM providers. Currently it is only possible with Nokia N8...
The G2x should support all popular bands.
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The G2x should support all popular bands.
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Unfortunately it doesn't for 3G connection.
http://www.gsmarena.com/t_mobile_g2x-3888.php
Will the G-Nex from Verizon be able to fully utilize AT&T's network if it is rooted and a new radio and rom flashed to it? i.e. is it capable of jumping the CDMA/GSM divide with software updates?
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No. It only has a CDMA radio, not GSM. Software can't change that.
I thought I had read somewhere that Samsung was dramatically changing the radio design in the GS2 and G-Nex, so I was hoping it might be possible.
Thanks
Nope, not at all possible.
one point twenty one jiggawatts!!!!!
I'm curious about this too. Because the Sim card/4G is GSM, if we were to go into phone settings and set it to "GSM ONLY" would it work?
This is more an issue of curiosity than anything.
I understand that the CDMA radio won't work on a GSM network.
Just curious is all.
No it definitely will not work in any way whatsoever unfortunately.
Yes LTE is a form of GSM but the GSM radio in to only works with Verizon LTE, nothing else
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i'm curious about this too. Because the sim card/4g is gsm, if we were to go into phone settings and set it to "gsm only" would it work?
This is more an issue of curiosity than anything.
I understand that the cdma radio won't work on a gsm network.
Just curious is all.
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No. It won't work.
It has even been shown that Verizon and AT&T are using different bands for 4G.
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I didn't even think to look at the freq bands.
Thanks everyone for enduring my curious nature.
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What's the differences between the two, if any?
I've been contemplating whether or not I should get the GSM version or CDMA. Are there any major differences between the two?
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If you're on sprint, you kind of need to change to Verizon if you want the CDMA version. CDMA also has LTE aka true 4G, so speed will probably be better. VZW also has further reaching 3G coverage than AT&T, generally. On top of this, in my experience VZW's customer service is great, but everyone's mileage varies there.
The GSM version is not "official" for the US - you will have to pay full retail price on one ($600-ish) and sign up with tmobile or att to use it. No carrier subsidy.
Without further information about you, it's hard to say anything more.
I think the op was asking about the hardware spec. CDMA version has bigger battery and twice the storage space.
Does this mean that the Verizon version will not work on at&t? Or have slower speeds?
thanks. I wasn't referring to carrier information, though. I meant as far as hardware and software.
Did android 4.1 come with the Verizon version as promised?
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thanks. I wasn't referring to carrier information, though. I meant as far as hardware and software.
Did android 4.1 come with the Verizon version as promised?
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Verizon comes with 4.0.1 with a small update leading it to 4.0.2
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Does this mean that the Verizon version will not work on at&t? Or have slower speeds?
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Yes, verizon version will not work on ATT.
In the US is very simple. Two types of radios: CDMA and GSM.
Verizon and Sprint use CDMA.
ATT and TMO use GSM.
The smaller carriers generally use either CDMA or GSM and piggy back off the larger carrier towers.
Hopefully android devices which have hardware and software capable of using both radios will arrive and it'll become less of an issue, but as of now, the galaxy nexus is either GSM or CDMA, but not both.
Hope that helps!
How about in the UK? Is there only one of these versions? And how do I find what version I have?
UK is gsm
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If you're on sprint, you kind of need to change to Verizon if you want the CDMA version. CDMA also has LTE aka true 4G, so speed will probably be better. VZW also has further reaching 3G coverage than AT&T, generally. On top of this, in my experience VZW's customer service is great, but everyone's mileage varies there.
The GSM version is not "official" for the US - you will have to pay full retail price on one ($600-ish) and sign up with tmobile or att to use it. No carrier subsidy.
Without further information about you, it's hard to say anything more.
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LTE IS NOT true 4G.
There is no True 4G in the US.
Google the definition of 4G.
Hi everybody, I have a verizon Galaxy Nexus I understand it's a CDMA, is there any hardware differences between this and a GSM one? or is only software? will this device work on a GSM network if I flash a GSM Rom on it?
thanks for your help!
jhonyDroid said:
Hi everybody, I have a verizon Galaxy Nexus I understand it's a CDMA, is there any hardware differences between this and a GSM one? or is only software? will this device work on a GSM network if I flash a GSM Rom on it?
thanks for your help!
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Don't even think about flashing a GSM rom on it.
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Don't even think about flashing a GSM rom on it.
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thanks for your answer!
I thought it was some kind of adventurer try to mix roms but can you tell me what would happen by doing this? and, is there any way to get this CDMA phone work on a GSM network?
best regards!
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Hi everybody, I have a verizon Galaxy Nexus I understand it's a CDMA, is there any hardware differences between this and a GSM one? or is only software? will this device work on a GSM network if I flash a GSM Rom on it?
thanks for your help!
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Your CDMA version has a CDMA radio, a LTE radio, and antennas tuned to the correct LTE and CDMA frequencies used by Verizon.
The GSM version has a GSM radio with antenna turned to all common GSM frequencies.
The radios and antenna hardware are completely different in these versions and so by this fact the firmware (the software or flash able 'radio') is 100% different. Flashing the wrong one can cause all kinds of issues from not working until reflashing the correct ones yo bricking your radio (depending on how the firmware is flashed, size differences, etc.)
CDMA and GSM and LTE are all very different. LTE is based off GSM which is why you have a SIM card in LTE (though CDMA can have SIM cards if that is how the company set it up, which also is why without the SIM card you can't use your CDMA parts either).
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I thought it was some kind of adventurer try to mix roms but can you tell me what would happen by doing this?
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You will destroy your phone. It won't work ever again.
is there any way to get this CDMA phone work on a GSM network?
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No. It's a hardware issue that can't be fixed with software.
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siberslug said:
LTE IS NOT true 4G.
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Sure it is. Just like EDGE is "officially" 3G whenever carriers think it's in their marketing interest to say so. No one owns the term "3G" or "4G" so there's no such thing as "true" or "official". It is certainly marked performance advance over HSPA+, with real world LTE uplink speeds higher than HSPA downlink. It's at least as big of a jump from EDGE to UMTS (200kbps to 600kbps) was.
If you're referring to LTE Advanced, expect that technology to be labelled 5G when it hits the carriers. Why? Why the hell not? It's just a stupid marketing gimmick. Most consumers don't even know what the hell it means, with something like 70% of the population thinking that the iPhone 4/4S has 4G. Mo G's mo money.
Just to go along with what you are saying, the ITU changed it so that the current "4G" techs such as LTE, WIMAX, and HSPA+ are considered 4G.
Sometime a go, there was a thread about variants of GNEX, from comments I understand that all GSM are same, only radio software is different,
but on some sites it not mention all 5 3G bands, and only 3 for Europe,
also what about 2.4 and 5 Ghz for WIFI? is it also suffers for Europe or something? or not? I kind of stuck, I really want the device with all standard accessories, mostly the charger, and not search for it, after I buy,
and also be sure it support 850 & 2100 for 3G, the S have also many variants, as SII have toooo many of them, so how can I find out about that issue?
As I said in the other thread... They're all pentaband. Every single model. And yes they support 5ghz wifi.
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As I said in the other thread... They're all pentaband. Every single model. And yes they support 5ghz wifi.
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Well all but the CDMA (Verizon USA model)
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Well all but the CDMA (Verizon USA model)
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Sorry yes. Obviously. You would've had to read the really long thread before where OP wouldn't take my word for it that any i9250 is pentaband...
I think I got it now, I just used to that for US & EU have different frequency devices, see I used to work to one of the mobile manufacturers, and we have sometime 2 type of devices, one for EU and other for US, and maybe it's hard to believe that unicorns exists, heh on the second hand, on old GSM it also not always a "world" phones so it do make sense,
and another funny thing, also 850 band I actually US, here in Israel we use it..because of the ARMY ...to make things even worse, the QUAD GSM no worth to much, as 2 of our providers that still have GSM, have only 1 frequency, the solution was to "share" the networks ,We do have HSPA+, but the future will be LTE ..dunno why, also no 4G here ,the mobile internet cost to much and slow as ****
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Is it possible to flash T-Mobile M919 radio on an international galaxy S4 I9505 to get T-Mobile LTE ?
Did anybody do that successfully ?
Thanks
I haven't heard of anyone attempting that so I will definitely say no to that and I wouldn't recommend trying it
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No, it's not just the radio, the hardware supports different bands; it won't work.
You will only get edge.
Exel said:
No, it's not just the radio, the hardware supports different bands; it won't work.
You will only get edge.
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Hardware is the same as far as I know !
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Hardware is the same as far as I know !
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Not the bands it supports.
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What I understand is : I9505 and M919 have the exact same hardware, the difference is in the radio file which makes the 2 devices have different LTE band. I believe the only difference is the radio programming which makes the difference but wanted to see if anybody manged to do it actually.
Many AT&T Galaxy s2 users flash T-Mobile radio and get T-Mobile AWS bands on their devices.
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What I understand is : I9505 and M919 have the exact same hardware, the difference is in the radio file which makes the 2 devices have different LTE band. I believe the only difference is the radio programming which makes the difference but wanted to see if anybody manged to do it actually.
Many AT&T Galaxy s2 users flash T-Mobile radio and get T-Mobile AWS bands on their devices.
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I'm telling you because I had the i9505, I only got Edge. You will get 4G (NOT LTE) in SOME areas where the network has been reframed.
I see. Thanks exel
Too bad I was thinking to buy it but if it's not gonna work with T-Mobile LTE that's a deal breaker although my city is 99% refarmed, but LTE is something else !
Didn't you try flashing a T-Mobile radio (or any mod) to make it happen ?
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I see. Thanks exel
Too bad I was thinking to buy it but if it's not gonna work with T-Mobile LTE that's a deal breaker although my city is 99% refarmed, but LTE is something else !
Didn't you try flashing a T-Mobile radio (or any mod) to make it happen ?
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Did you have the guts to try this in the end? I am thinking about flashing the M919 modem on my I9505 to see if I can get T-Mobile LTE in New York City.
I'm in the very same situation, and the thing is i've been hearing conflicting stories and accounts of people saying that it doesn't work, to others saying that they managed to get the 4g /lte working somehow, either through aws band ,or other software tweaks... I just want a concrete answer as to whether or not it's possible and if so how to do eet ? otherwise i just have an expensive smartphone that only gets 3mbps dwn, and 1mbps up at best on t mobiles h+
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