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I've been trying to sort through some threads but I am not seeing a real definitive answer to this.
I recently switched over to the series III rom to give it a go from CM7 and last night at full charge I unplugged it just to wake this morning at 14% batter left. This is the identical issue I had with Myn's Roms. Myns I had a wake issue, this one showed 8 hours unplugged 1 hour wake which I played some Rio before sleeping lol. Still both same end result.
My question isn't so much how to fix it or improve it because that question HAS been beaten to death. I am just curious as to what makes the Sense Roms do this specifically. CM7 I was getting really good battery life leaving everything on.
Also, is there an app that actually monitors usage? I don't feel Spare Parts or the stock system reading is telling me everything I want to know about what's using my battery.
blizzard1017 said:
I've been trying to sort through some threads but I am not seeing a real definitive answer to this.
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I'll see if I can be definitive for you....
I recently switched over to the series III rom to give it a go from CM7 and last night at full charge I unplugged it just to wake this morning at 14% batter left.
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My guess is that you have a wakelock issue and if you are using baseband 2.15.00.11.19 in conjunction with PRI 1.90_003 I'm willing to bet that is the culprit. Downgrading the PRI to 1.77_003 takes care of it, by the way.
This is the identical issue I had with Myn's Roms. Myns I had a wake issue, this one showed 8 hours unplugged 1 hour wake which I played some Rio before sleeping lol. Still both same end result.
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See the above response
My question isn't so much how to fix it or improve it because that question HAS been beaten to death. I am just curious as to what makes the Sense Roms do this specifically.
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I wish I had an answer for you as to why that is. I can only assume that synchronizing with email, weather, social networks, etcetera could be major factors.
CM7 I was getting really good battery life leaving everything on.
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I had bad battery life with CM7
Also, is there an app that actually monitors usage? I don't feel Spare Parts or the stock system reading is telling me everything I want to know about what's using my battery.
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SystemPanel Lite & aLogcat are very helpful. With aLogcat, there is realtime monitoring and you should pay attention to anything displayed in RED repeatedly.
hahaha thanks for the definitive break down.
I have downgraded to 1.77 and it's still pretty bad. Again, not really looking for solutions but more of a reason as to WHY the difference.
thanks for the app suggestions.
blizzard1017 said:
I've been trying to sort through some threads but I am not seeing a real definitive answer to this.
I recently switched over to the series III rom to give it a go from CM7 and last night at full charge I unplugged it just to wake this morning at 14% batter left. This is the identical issue I had with Myn's Roms. Myns I had a wake issue, this one showed 8 hours unplugged 1 hour wake which I played some Rio before sleeping lol. Still both same end result.
My question isn't so much how to fix it or improve it because that question HAS been beaten to death. I am just curious as to what makes the Sense Roms do this specifically. CM7 I was getting really good battery life leaving everything on.
Also, is there an app that actually monitors usage? I don't feel Spare Parts or the stock system reading is telling me everything I want to know about what's using my battery.
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blizzard1017 said:
hahaha thanks for the definitive break down.
I have downgraded to 1.77 and it's still pretty bad. Again, not really looking for solutions but more of a reason as to WHY the difference.
thanks for the app suggestions.
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You're very welcome and I'm sorry I couldn't be more helpful. Enjoy your weekend, my friend...
One more app suggestion for ya--
Watchdog
It monitors apps and processes and alerts you if one goes rogue on you eating up your battery. I have found that in conjunction with system panel to be a great monitoring system.
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If you can do it, because I don't know how yo use your phone, turn all your data off unless you actually need it.
I do this now, since I found out I can go 2-3 days without a recharge, if I don't need one. I don't use data much, anyhow, except my weather widgets and the times I go on my browser
My usage consists of call text and facebook lol. The clock widget has weather so that too I suppose. Never use 4g. Maps on rare occurrence.
Is there a simple button for data? Without going to settings every time?
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If you never us 4 g try miui. I consistently get 20 hours of use regardless of what I have turned on. Good luck!
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My usage consists of call text and facebook lol. The clock widget has weather so that too I suppose. Never use 4g. Maps on rare occurrence.
Is there a simple button for data? Without going to settings every time?
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I like miui standalone apps but the whole iphone-esque layout I cannot stand.
I like sense. If it was an issue with I NEED battery I would go back to cm7. I would rather go beyond adjust your pri, and disable half your phone and see if there is a specific reason sense roms go all Monica lowinski on your battery. Haha
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My usage consists of call text and facebook lol. The clock widget has weather so that too I suppose. Never use 4g. Maps on rare occurrence.
Is there a simple button for data? Without going to settings every time?
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You're on koni's elite III? Does that come with come with '4g' as one of the toggle widgets in the notification pulldown? If so, you can modify that so that 'mobile data' (3g) toggle will replace the 4g toggle. (if you don't want to do that, you can put a widget on your homescreen by going to add a widget, then scrolling down to 'settings'. Once you hit settings, you'll be presented with more options, 'mobile network' will toggle your 3g on and off at will)
If you do want to modify the pull down toggle, and you have Root Explorer, or another root level file explorer, it can easily be done. I don't think koni's III comes with a widget.txt file already, so you'll need to make one. I'll upload the one I use, which toggles GPS, Brightness, airplane mode, mobile data, flashlight, and sound, so you can use that as a reference, or modify it to you're liking. Once you have widget.txt made how you want it, you need to put it in /system/customize. You can do that using root explorer, or
adb remount
adb push widget.txt /system/customize
adb reboot
here's a list of what you can add to the notification pulldown toggles (6 at a time) And here's a link to the original thread, by JsChiSurf. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836721&highlight=notification+toggles
(don't forget to pipe delimit them): Spelling must be exact, capitals matter. No spaces, and use | to separate them.
Code:
toggleAirplane
toggleAutoRotate
toggleBluetooth
toggleBrightness
toggleFlashlight
toggleGPS
toggleLockScreen
toggleMobileData
toggleScreenTimeout
toggleSleepMode
toggleSound
toggleSync
toggleWifi
HipKat said:
If you can do it, because I don't know how yo use your phone, turn all your data off unless you actually need it.
I do this now, since I found out I can go 2-3 days without a recharge, if I don't need one. I don't use data much, anyhow, except my weather widgets and the times I go on my browser
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Disabling "Always On Mobile Data" is helpful. When you're not actually surfing the net or using data, it'll sleep saving you battery usage.
THere is a widget for data on Koni's three. Long press your screen/widgets/settings/mobile network and you'll get the data widget.
@k2buckly that's some great info, I appreciate it. Will hit the thanks button when I get on my pc. Gives me a new tinker project lol.
As well as others.
So my question still stands but I think we have established the culprit. Mobile data. Now what makes the sense roms so prone to mobile data usage vs other roms causing accelerated drain?
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Go search in the Mik rom thread about IQAgent and IQRD. Google them as well. IQAgent is a nasty app Sprint uses to log information about you that they shouldn't be doing.
People are deleting them wirh root explorer or freezing them with TB and having some luck. I deleted them and it really helped my battery life. At least check in to it.
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Go search in the Mik rom thread about IQAgent and IQRD. Google them as well. IQAgent is a nasty app Sprint uses to log information about you that they shouldn't be doing.
People are deleting them wirh root explorer or freezing them with TB and having some luck. I deleted them and it really helped my battery life. At least check in to it.
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This app makes it a pain but I will. Essentially I would like to get enough tweaks and info to make one thread possibly a sticky for this issue.
This seems like the similar issue of the vibrant. We had to freeze all the drm, functions because they were always talking to samsung for verification. Regardless of having licensed products or not.
I would like to get to a point where we can get these wonderful sense roms to be basically fully functional with respectable battery life. Maybe just my own opinion but I don't think its right we have to essentially disable our phones down to being no better than an old flip phone.
I don't mind doing the research and leg work either. Im a year late on the evo so I need something to do haha.
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To go along with all the other handy advice. Here are some simple steps and explanations on how to help battery drain.
http://androidforums.com/1383478-post1.html
Read up and take some or all of it and try it out...
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To go along with all the other handy advice. Here are some simple steps and explanations on how to help battery drain.
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Nice, some pretty good info in there,.
madflasher said:
To go along with all the other handy advice. Here are some simple steps and explanations on how to help battery drain.
http://androidforums.com/1383478-post1.html
Read up and take some or all of it and try it out...
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This is the holy grail of what i was looking for. I am sure it was in the 1000+ page thread somewhere but I never found anything that explained the CDMA radio usage. I always found "turn off data". No offense to those who posted, the help was appreciated but I was just looking further into it then most do. I am more of a "why" person then a "i don't care just fix it" person.
As I said I am about a year behind on having an Evo so some of this info is DEEP into some searches.
Excellent read, I am going to try these out and have watchdog and system panel going. Before this read I have my phone pretty close to the 1% idle, I doubt I'll maintain that but it's close to satisfactory.
The best advice I could give is this...If you want a "Sense" based rom, I would recommend MikFroyo. The community has gotten so big, that he now has his own site themikmik.com. The reason I feel this is the best rom, is because everything is repacked, cleaned, optimized, and tweaked to the max...which makes for basically, the fastest Sense rom experience you could possibly have. There are also plenty of theme's, if your not one for the stock look (I actually am).
If you don't already use a custom Kernel, I would recommend netarchy-toastmod. His Kernel's have always been great for me, and with SBC charging too. I just ignore the SBC scare tactics. I've been using SBC since it came out, and have not had one single issue.
But the best answer to the "Why?" I could give you, is...USAGE. Unless there is and actual software/hardware issue your having, then all that's left to blame is your usage. Radios that are on, the signal strengths of them, monitoring software in use, and just simply...how much you use it. Which brings me to another point...it's cool to use stuff like Watchdog, or System Panel to see if there are issues, but after that I would recommend getting rid of them, as they themselves eat battery. I'm not saying the destroy your battery...just that they use it. And the more you have running...the more it gets used. The only "active" monitoring software I use is Battery Monitor Widget. It is probably the best app to monitor your battery/usage that exists.
I have never "downgraded" anything on my phone, always update my PRL & Profile, and have not ever had a software/hardware related issue. Then again, I don't flash much...I just stick with the things that work great.
You better try Azrael X v.40 rom, it give you a long battery live and also after you unplug your phone it takes a long time to start seeing any change on you battery status icon. I tried different roms and this one has everything working,my make concern about roms is "battery life" and speed. Also with this rom I always have wifi on, use wireless network as location, Background data on, auto sync on,exchange push mail on, weather sync on, and live wallpaper on. so far that's my setting and I can go through the day with a single charge. (I'm not doing advertising on this rom, I just want to let other know about how good is in Battery life.
Hey
I am an android noob. I am comng over from a bb 9800 torch. So my question is what should i do first with the phone. I am planning on rooting eventually, probably by next week. Are there any must install apps to install first?
A few things i am not a fan of so far are the lock screen and the keyboard.
Thanks everyone for your help.
Look up SwiftKey X or ICS Keyboard on the market. Both are excellent keyboards if you are not feelin' Swype.
I wasn't a Swype person when I first started, but just give it some time! Its worth it
The lock screen you can change by using an app called "widget locker." But if your going to root you should look into flashing a custom ROM, most of then have options to change the lock screen. Much simpler then having to do it through a constantly running app.
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The biggest thing I found is that it doesn't support advanced sound profiles out of the box. Also you have to configure notification options from within each app instead of being able to manipulate them all at the same time. If this is at all possible without installing an app then I haven't found it yet. I used to use a 9630 tour. There's a lot more that you'll find different, I'm sure.
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The biggest thing I found is that it doesn't support advanced sound profiles out of the box. Also you have to configure notification options from within each app instead of being able to manipulate them all at the same time. If this is at all possible without installing an app then I haven't found it yet. I used to use a 9630 tour. There's a lot more that you'll find different, I'm sure.
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but that is easily fixed with 3rd party Sound Ringtones/Alert apps from Market, they are all free
gives you much much better control than stock
I am not really planning on installing a new rom yet, so i am going to have to look for a lockscreen app. I'll give widget locker a try and see how it goes.
A few things that i am noticing is that you cant customize alerts and and ringtones easily or at all. I spent 30 mins tryin to find it but couldnt. I guess i'll have to go 3rd party.
Apparently there is no battery indicator for battery level. I was try to find out how much vharge i have left but couldn't. I am assuming i am going to need a 3rd party app for that as well? Any recommendations?
I have read about juice defender. Is it worth the price for the ultimate edition? Juice defender is the app that automatically toggle my wifi, gps, 4g settings for me right?
And lastly i know people sais you can monitor your data usage but i cant find it on the phone. Some help navigating to it would be helpful.
Thanks to everyone for their opinions. Xda is probably one of the better forums for information and help i have been to.
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I am not really planning on installing a new rom yet, so i am going to have to look for a lockscreen app. I'll give widget locker a try and see how it goes.
A few things that i am noticing is that you cant customize alerts and and ringtones easily or at all. I spent 30 mins tryin to find it but couldnt. I guess i'll have to go 3rd party.
Apparently there is no battery indicator for battery level. I was try to find out how much vharge i have left but couldn't. I am assuming i am going to need a 3rd party app for that as well? Any recommendations?
I have read about juice defender. Is it worth the price for the ultimate edition? Juice defender is the app that automatically toggle my wifi, gps, 4g settings for me right?
And lastly i know people sais you can monitor your data usage but i cant find it on the phone. Some help navigating to it would be helpful.
Thanks to everyone for their opinions. Xda is probably one of the better forums for information and help i have been to.
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You can easily change custom ringtones when you click on each contact name and scroll down to ringtone and select a file.
Definitely get go launcher and go locker. It's the best homescreen and locker app Imo.
To monitor data usage, use an app like Watchdog dats monitor. Your provider should also have the usage on their website...
I bought juice defender ultimate and i dont regret spending a single cent. I want to squeeze as much juice out of my battery as possible. You could probably try out basic and judge it yourself.
Do you just mean battery charge %? Go to settings, about phone, status. Alternatively you can flash a battery mod so that you have the percentage on the battery icon on the status bar.
You will definitely enjoy android. I came froma blackberry too.
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Zedge from the market works good for ringtones and such.
I would install go locker and go SMS for a much nicer lock screen and SMS client.
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Anyone managed to get the updated version of Facebook ? Does it include contact sync that works in ICS?
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or more importantly, does it get the menu key up for us non-rooted Gnex users!
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I dont think they have released it yet. Market page still shows Dec. 1st
Apparently its in the next 24 hours but I know sometimes so areas get it before others .
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Yippee
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I switched to Friendcaster a while ago cause the Facebook app would always run in the background and on startup (yes yes, I understand that doesn't matter, but I still don't like it under Running apps even with all refresh/notifications off). Does this super revamp version still run on startup and in the background all the time?
Update is out. Installing now.
Update
Menu Button is there now. Nothing else pops out (aside from the expected special advances). No sync for contacts as far as I can tell
Nope, no contact sync.
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Nope, no contact sync.
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Yeah, in the settings theres a section for "other settings" i think that's where the contact sync usually appears for other devices but no go for galaxy nexus a little disappointing
No contact sync, which is a bit disappointing, but I've managed with Google Contact sync periodically. The new app is beautiful though, it's exactly what I had hoped a facebook app would be. I'm very happy with it!
I couldn't care less about contact sync. I don't need several hundred people in my address book when I really only regularly call a few people.
I suppose others carry on conversations with hundreds of people on a regular basis? I'm not one of them...it's just clutter, IMO.
Can you go now to the settings menu and configure notification?
I want to turn the notification off ... Possible?
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Can you go now to the settings menu and configure notification?
I want to turn the notification off ... Possible?
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yes menu is here now
ericshmerick said:
I couldn't care less about contact sync. I don't need several hundred people in my address book when I really only regularly call a few people.
I suppose others carry on conversations with hundreds of people on a regular basis? I'm not one of them...it's just clutter, IMO.
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That's what the "Sync with existing contacts" option is for.
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Hi!
Does the facebook app deserve to be used in my android?
I am now used to access it with the browser, but the app has more funcionalities?
Does it kill my battery life?
Give me your opinions, please!
It does kill battery life. I keep the app installed but have sync (in phone settings) and notifications (in app settings) turned off and that helps.
I've hated the app for a long time...it has honestly become alot better, and the current build i believe to load faster then via browser, plus it is nice to have specific notifications if needed. As far as facebook + Jellybean, since it no longer syncs contacts...you can sign out as needed to preserve ram/minimize battery life. I use HaxSync and HaxSync JB workaround to sync FB contacts w/ statuses + pics and it was 100% worth the money.
AFAIK the only thing the app does (aside from kill your battery) that you can't do some other way is notifications.
Facebook has a personalised email address you can use to post status updates and photos. The mobile site is reasonably snappy. Haxsync allows you to sync contacts.
Last time I used the app is a while ago, but I haven't missed it.
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The FB app does NOT kill your battery, it doesn't even show up on my battery stats! Given, I only use it a few times a day but it definitely doesn't contribute to battery issues
I still had that bad rep in my mind.
Anyway, i use a dedicated browser for Facebook, so it's a non issue.
And one thing is the Facebook app will keep requesting for GPS location, but that was a few months ago, i'm not sure whether the app still request for GPS or not.
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I still had that bad rep in my mind.
Anyway, i use a dedicated browser for Facebook, so it's a non issue.
And one thing is the Facebook app will keep requesting for GPS location, but that was a few months ago, i'm not sure whether the app still request for GPS or not.
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Only when the app is open. It stops once closed (and killed)
The app is too bug filled to be worth using and although it doesn't kill battery anymore it definitely decreases battery life even with the app not in use especially if you opt to use notifications. Web browser works well enough for me.
better to use browser than the app... the fb app is horrible IMO
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better to use browser than the app... the fb app is horrible IMO
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The app IS the mobile site so there is no difference other than the app is faster
App is worthwhile. You can also integrate better to upload photos and the notifications are nice.
Facebook, with 4hr sync, notifications on, messanger/location off, uses almost no battery. Try using G+ for even a day and you'll see that G+ with full sync is the massive battery killer.
So yes, absolutely use the new Facebook app if you use Facebook often.
When there's already a well laid out mobile version of a website I see no reason to install an additional app. Weather, amazon, Facebook, all these and more work perfectly well via browser, saved in favorites, no need for all the individual apps taking up space.
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Anybody tried this app from the appstore?
Would like to know how true is this app.
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Anybody tried this app from the appstore?
Would like to know how true is this app.
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used it - froze up my phone , un installed
The reviews on play store are quite mixed, some claim doubling the battery. Others say worsen.
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Tried it wasn't impressed. I prefer green power to it.
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what this is app does is reduce bakground and hence will help you if you experience unexplained standby drains, once it's done learning your most used apps, it will control background activity sync
so yes you will notice great improvements if you you have lots of accounts draining your standby times
I currently am on day 6 using the app (actual use, its not including the 2 days of hiding in background watching me). Haven't really noticed a huge difference but I probably get another hour or so of battery life.
I think the trial was pretty lame. After it finally got the thing to start, I like how you can block apps from refreshing in the background. The list is not very big however and I am curious as to what other apps do the same thing but have more options.
All in all, I'd give it a thumb up as it is not hurting my phone's performance and a little battery savings
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I have used this snapdragon app, their is a thread about it somewhere, i removed it as it was giving me thousands wakelocks with the app, i used wakelock detector to see them.
John.
It just blocks apps from syncing if you use your phone auto sync on all the time so it's not like greenify which completely stops background process of a specific app until you open it. If you don't keep auto sync on then it's a waste of time and makes battery even worse.
It's a placebo, don't use it.
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No, it is not a placebo. Yes, it does block apps from syncing in the background. So what? You guys are missing the point.
They are not claiming to possess some magical powers that will double your phone's battery life. The main difference from this app and similar others in the market, is their learning algorithm. It learns from "watching" you use your phone for a couple of days and then controls what is going on in the background to help you save battery without you doing much on your end. It's actually a pretty genius idea. I'm trying it out for the first-time (thanks OP for mentioning this app) and will post back with my results later this week. I'm not expecting wonders, but maybe I'll learn a thing or two about my daily use that I might be able to incorporate into my setups.
I would really appreciate you get back to use with your results, i pulled the plug after a couple of hours because of the high number of wakelocks.
John.
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No, it is not a placebo. Yes, it does block apps from syncing in the background. So what? You guys are missing the point.
They are not claiming to possess some magical powers that will double your phone's battery life. The main difference from this app and similar others in the market, is their learning algorithm. It learns from "watching" you use your phone for a couple of days and then controls what is going on in the background to help you save battery without you doing much on your end. It's actually a pretty genius idea. I'm trying it out for the first-time (thanks OP for mentioning this app) and will post back with my results later this week. I'm not expecting wonders, but maybe I'll learn a thing or two about my daily use that I might be able to incorporate into my setups.
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No problem. Honestly, people freak out too much about wakelocks. You can have 50 simple events waking your device that will consume 10% of a single wakelock event from another app. Google's new play services that have been announced at I/O are wakelock-fiends, but surprisingly, their effect on battery life is very minimal.
Basically, it's about quality and not quantity of the wakelock that matters.
akarol said:
No problem. Honestly, people freak out too much about wakelocks. You can have 50 simple events waking your device that will consume 10% of a single wakelock event from another app. Google's new play services that have been announced at I/O are wakelock-fiends, but surprisingly, their effect on battery life is very minimal.
Basically, it's about quality and not quantity of the wakelock that matters.
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Indeed, 1500 wakelocks but less than two minutes awake time.
It doesn't work. plain.and.simple.
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A rep from HTC told me the battery Guru was bad and would mess up the phone
I was wondering if itll affect instant messaging app, like whatsapp.
Will I still receive the messages instantly or battery guru will refresh my whatsapp periodically based on my usage?
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installed it. doesn't work. after a few weeks, installed it again, still doesn't work. it seems to just kill running apps. not great if you use whatsapp or viber, you won't be receiving any messages with the battery guru on.
I'm using this but I don't feel that the battery is very good anyway. Is this app working just like greenify?
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