Develop Bugs

Sense Roms/battery drain phenomenon. please explain

I've been trying to sort through some threads but I am not seeing a real definitive answer to this.
I recently switched over to the series III rom to give it a go from CM7 and last night at full charge I unplugged it just to wake this morning at 14% batter left. This is the identical issue I had with Myn's Roms. Myns I had a wake issue, this one showed 8 hours unplugged 1 hour wake which I played some Rio before sleeping lol. Still both same end result.
My question isn't so much how to fix it or improve it because that question HAS been beaten to death. I am just curious as to what makes the Sense Roms do this specifically. CM7 I was getting really good battery life leaving everything on.
Also, is there an app that actually monitors usage? I don't feel Spare Parts or the stock system reading is telling me everything I want to know about what's using my battery.

blizzard1017 said:
I've been trying to sort through some threads but I am not seeing a real definitive answer to this.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I'll see if I can be definitive for you....
I recently switched over to the series III rom to give it a go from CM7 and last night at full charge I unplugged it just to wake this morning at 14% batter left.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
My guess is that you have a wakelock issue and if you are using baseband 2.15.00.11.19 in conjunction with PRI 1.90_003 I'm willing to bet that is the culprit. Downgrading the PRI to 1.77_003 takes care of it, by the way.
This is the identical issue I had with Myn's Roms. Myns I had a wake issue, this one showed 8 hours unplugged 1 hour wake which I played some Rio before sleeping lol. Still both same end result.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
See the above response
My question isn't so much how to fix it or improve it because that question HAS been beaten to death. I am just curious as to what makes the Sense Roms do this specifically.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I wish I had an answer for you as to why that is. I can only assume that synchronizing with email, weather, social networks, etcetera could be major factors.
CM7 I was getting really good battery life leaving everything on.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I had bad battery life with CM7
Also, is there an app that actually monitors usage? I don't feel Spare Parts or the stock system reading is telling me everything I want to know about what's using my battery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
SystemPanel Lite & aLogcat are very helpful. With aLogcat, there is realtime monitoring and you should pay attention to anything displayed in RED repeatedly.

hahaha thanks for the definitive break down.
I have downgraded to 1.77 and it's still pretty bad. Again, not really looking for solutions but more of a reason as to WHY the difference.
thanks for the app suggestions.

blizzard1017 said:
I've been trying to sort through some threads but I am not seeing a real definitive answer to this.
I recently switched over to the series III rom to give it a go from CM7 and last night at full charge I unplugged it just to wake this morning at 14% batter left. This is the identical issue I had with Myn's Roms. Myns I had a wake issue, this one showed 8 hours unplugged 1 hour wake which I played some Rio before sleeping lol. Still both same end result.
My question isn't so much how to fix it or improve it because that question HAS been beaten to death. I am just curious as to what makes the Sense Roms do this specifically. CM7 I was getting really good battery life leaving everything on.
Also, is there an app that actually monitors usage? I don't feel Spare Parts or the stock system reading is telling me everything I want to know about what's using my battery.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
blizzard1017 said:
hahaha thanks for the definitive break down.
I have downgraded to 1.77 and it's still pretty bad. Again, not really looking for solutions but more of a reason as to WHY the difference.
thanks for the app suggestions.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're very welcome and I'm sorry I couldn't be more helpful. Enjoy your weekend, my friend...

One more app suggestion for ya--
Watchdog
It monitors apps and processes and alerts you if one goes rogue on you eating up your battery. I have found that in conjunction with system panel to be a great monitoring system.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA App

If you can do it, because I don't know how yo use your phone, turn all your data off unless you actually need it.
I do this now, since I found out I can go 2-3 days without a recharge, if I don't need one. I don't use data much, anyhow, except my weather widgets and the times I go on my browser

My usage consists of call text and facebook lol. The clock widget has weather so that too I suppose. Never use 4g. Maps on rare occurrence.
Is there a simple button for data? Without going to settings every time?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App

If you never us 4 g try miui. I consistently get 20 hours of use regardless of what I have turned on. Good luck!
blizzard1017 said:
My usage consists of call text and facebook lol. The clock widget has weather so that too I suppose. Never use 4g. Maps on rare occurrence.
Is there a simple button for data? Without going to settings every time?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App

I like miui standalone apps but the whole iphone-esque layout I cannot stand.
I like sense. If it was an issue with I NEED battery I would go back to cm7. I would rather go beyond adjust your pri, and disable half your phone and see if there is a specific reason sense roms go all Monica lowinski on your battery. Haha
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App

blizzard1017 said:
My usage consists of call text and facebook lol. The clock widget has weather so that too I suppose. Never use 4g. Maps on rare occurrence.
Is there a simple button for data? Without going to settings every time?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You're on koni's elite III? Does that come with come with '4g' as one of the toggle widgets in the notification pulldown? If so, you can modify that so that 'mobile data' (3g) toggle will replace the 4g toggle. (if you don't want to do that, you can put a widget on your homescreen by going to add a widget, then scrolling down to 'settings'. Once you hit settings, you'll be presented with more options, 'mobile network' will toggle your 3g on and off at will)
If you do want to modify the pull down toggle, and you have Root Explorer, or another root level file explorer, it can easily be done. I don't think koni's III comes with a widget.txt file already, so you'll need to make one. I'll upload the one I use, which toggles GPS, Brightness, airplane mode, mobile data, flashlight, and sound, so you can use that as a reference, or modify it to you're liking. Once you have widget.txt made how you want it, you need to put it in /system/customize. You can do that using root explorer, or
adb remount
adb push widget.txt /system/customize
adb reboot
here's a list of what you can add to the notification pulldown toggles (6 at a time) And here's a link to the original thread, by JsChiSurf. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=836721&highlight=notification+toggles
(don't forget to pipe delimit them): Spelling must be exact, capitals matter. No spaces, and use | to separate them.
Code:
toggleAirplane
toggleAutoRotate
toggleBluetooth
toggleBrightness
toggleFlashlight
toggleGPS
toggleLockScreen
toggleMobileData
toggleScreenTimeout
toggleSleepMode
toggleSound
toggleSync
toggleWifi

HipKat said:
If you can do it, because I don't know how yo use your phone, turn all your data off unless you actually need it.
I do this now, since I found out I can go 2-3 days without a recharge, if I don't need one. I don't use data much, anyhow, except my weather widgets and the times I go on my browser
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Disabling "Always On Mobile Data" is helpful. When you're not actually surfing the net or using data, it'll sleep saving you battery usage.

THere is a widget for data on Koni's three. Long press your screen/widgets/settings/mobile network and you'll get the data widget.

@k2buckly that's some great info, I appreciate it. Will hit the thanks button when I get on my pc. Gives me a new tinker project lol.
As well as others.
So my question still stands but I think we have established the culprit. Mobile data. Now what makes the sense roms so prone to mobile data usage vs other roms causing accelerated drain?
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App

Go search in the Mik rom thread about IQAgent and IQRD. Google them as well. IQAgent is a nasty app Sprint uses to log information about you that they shouldn't be doing.
People are deleting them wirh root explorer or freezing them with TB and having some luck. I deleted them and it really helped my battery life. At least check in to it.

Batman58 said:
Go search in the Mik rom thread about IQAgent and IQRD. Google them as well. IQAgent is a nasty app Sprint uses to log information about you that they shouldn't be doing.
People are deleting them wirh root explorer or freezing them with TB and having some luck. I deleted them and it really helped my battery life. At least check in to it.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This app makes it a pain but I will. Essentially I would like to get enough tweaks and info to make one thread possibly a sticky for this issue.
This seems like the similar issue of the vibrant. We had to freeze all the drm, functions because they were always talking to samsung for verification. Regardless of having licensed products or not.
I would like to get to a point where we can get these wonderful sense roms to be basically fully functional with respectable battery life. Maybe just my own opinion but I don't think its right we have to essentially disable our phones down to being no better than an old flip phone.
I don't mind doing the research and leg work either. Im a year late on the evo so I need something to do haha.
Sent from my PC36100 using XDA Premium App

To go along with all the other handy advice. Here are some simple steps and explanations on how to help battery drain.
http://androidforums.com/1383478-post1.html
Read up and take some or all of it and try it out...

madflasher said:
To go along with all the other handy advice. Here are some simple steps and explanations on how to help battery drain.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Nice, some pretty good info in there,.

madflasher said:
To go along with all the other handy advice. Here are some simple steps and explanations on how to help battery drain.
http://androidforums.com/1383478-post1.html
Read up and take some or all of it and try it out...
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
This is the holy grail of what i was looking for. I am sure it was in the 1000+ page thread somewhere but I never found anything that explained the CDMA radio usage. I always found "turn off data". No offense to those who posted, the help was appreciated but I was just looking further into it then most do. I am more of a "why" person then a "i don't care just fix it" person.
As I said I am about a year behind on having an Evo so some of this info is DEEP into some searches.
Excellent read, I am going to try these out and have watchdog and system panel going. Before this read I have my phone pretty close to the 1% idle, I doubt I'll maintain that but it's close to satisfactory.

The best advice I could give is this...If you want a "Sense" based rom, I would recommend MikFroyo. The community has gotten so big, that he now has his own site themikmik.com. The reason I feel this is the best rom, is because everything is repacked, cleaned, optimized, and tweaked to the max...which makes for basically, the fastest Sense rom experience you could possibly have. There are also plenty of theme's, if your not one for the stock look (I actually am).
If you don't already use a custom Kernel, I would recommend netarchy-toastmod. His Kernel's have always been great for me, and with SBC charging too. I just ignore the SBC scare tactics. I've been using SBC since it came out, and have not had one single issue.
But the best answer to the "Why?" I could give you, is...USAGE. Unless there is and actual software/hardware issue your having, then all that's left to blame is your usage. Radios that are on, the signal strengths of them, monitoring software in use, and just simply...how much you use it. Which brings me to another point...it's cool to use stuff like Watchdog, or System Panel to see if there are issues, but after that I would recommend getting rid of them, as they themselves eat battery. I'm not saying the destroy your battery...just that they use it. And the more you have running...the more it gets used. The only "active" monitoring software I use is Battery Monitor Widget. It is probably the best app to monitor your battery/usage that exists.
I have never "downgraded" anything on my phone, always update my PRL & Profile, and have not ever had a software/hardware related issue. Then again, I don't flash much...I just stick with the things that work great.

You better try Azrael X v.40 rom, it give you a long battery live and also after you unplug your phone it takes a long time to start seeing any change on you battery status icon. I tried different roms and this one has everything working,my make concern about roms is "battery life" and speed. Also with this rom I always have wifi on, use wireless network as location, Background data on, auto sync on,exchange push mail on, weather sync on, and live wallpaper on. so far that's my setting and I can go through the day with a single charge. (I'm not doing advertising on this rom, I just want to let other know about how good is in Battery life.

Ram manager ??

So do you guys find it necessary to have a ram manager to free memory or no ?

No, ics have a good system to manage ram.

No. Creates more issues than it solves.

+1 for no. Watchdog has always been a must have for me, but it hasn't yet had to call out an app on my SGN.

No. Don't use automated tools to kill tasks and free up memory... in Android, free memory is wasted memory. You make your phone work harder when you interfere with its built-in memory management.

I kill running services that shouldn't be running... That allows for more RAM to be used by active applications.

EP2008 said:
I kill running services that shouldn't be running... That allows for more RAM to be used by active applications.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Users always feel they are smarter than the OS when it comes to killing processes. They are usually wrong.

adrynalyne said:
Users always feel they are smarter than the OS when it comes to killing processes. They are usually wrong.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Funniest thing I read all day and its true

adrynalyne said:
Users always feel they are smarter than the OS when it comes to killing processes. They are usually wrong.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Yes,I feel that having running SERVICES that I'm not using is a huge waste of memory and battery resources. Android is not smart in this regard.
For example, I use the amazon app store to check for free apps of the day ONCE a day. No need to have it run as a service all day, using up ram and CPU. Another example is pulse news reader. I want to go in the app, refresh the feeds, read them and exit, but the app remains running as a service for no reason. I also use a document scanner app which runs as a service when I'm not using it for no good reason. So, I kill the service.
To suggest that I'm wrong in doing this shows a lack of understanding of the issue at hand.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

EP2008 said:
Yes,I feel that having running SERVICES that I'm not using is a huge waste of memory and battery resources. Android is not smart in this regard.
For example, I use the amazon app store to check for free apps of the day ONCE a day. No need to have it run as a service all day, using up ram and CPU. Another example is pulse news reader. I want to go in the app, refresh the feeds, read them and exit, but the app remains running as a service for no reason. I also use a document scanner app which runs as a service when I'm not using it for no good reason. So, I kill the service.
To suggest that I'm wrong in doing this shows a lack of understanding of the issue at hand.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You have no idea how android works and deserve to have your nexus confiscated.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA App

EP2008 said:
Yes,I feel that having running SERVICES that I'm not using is a huge waste of memory and battery resources. Android is not smart in this regard.
For example, I use the amazon app store to check for free apps of the day ONCE a day. No need to have it run as a service all day, using up ram and CPU. Another example is pulse news reader. I want to go in the app, refresh the feeds, read them and exit, but the app remains running as a service for no reason. I also use a document scanner app which runs as a service when I'm not using it for no good reason. So, I kill the service.
To suggest that I'm wrong in doing this shows a lack of understanding of the issue at hand.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Android does not operate like windows. Apps listed as "Running" are actually only loaded in ram and are not using cpu cycles or battery power. Android loads them in ram in order for them to start/be available more quickly to the user. If Android needs more ram for a task, it will remove any thing it needs to in order to free up more ram. You are wasting battery power and cpu cycles by "killing" those apps/service. If you think of ram as a memory stick you will realize that once something is loaded there, it doesn't take any power to keep it there.
Good luck
Good luck

jordanishere said:
You have no idea how android works and deserve to have your nexus confiscated.
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
System services should obviously not be messed with, but disabling autostarting services that you don't use is generally not a problem. It may take more power/time to start up apps that use those services (since they will have to be manually started), but if it's an app that you use infrequently it may be worth doing.
Intelligently tuning what services are allowed to autostart themselves is NOT the same as indiscriminately killing apps chasing after "free memory".
Personally, I wouldn't terminate services, but only modify which ones are allowed to automatically start up with the OS.

codesplice said:
if it's an app that you use infrequently it may be worth doing.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is it worth doing when Android does this automatically?
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA App

EP2008 said:
Yes,I feel that having running SERVICES that I'm not using is a huge waste of memory and battery resources. Android is not smart in this regard.
For example, I use the amazon app store to check for free apps of the day ONCE a day. No need to have it run as a service all day, using up ram and CPU. Another example is pulse news reader. I want to go in the app, refresh the feeds, read them and exit, but the app remains running as a service for no reason. I also use a document scanner app which runs as a service when I'm not using it for no good reason. So, I kill the service.
To suggest that I'm wrong in doing this shows a lack of understanding of the issue at hand.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
you basically proved what he said was true

I agree with using "Autostarts", it's one of my fav apps and cuts down on startup time and certain apps like to be triggered for all kinds of rediculous things. Once again though I think it is counterproductive to use automated task killers. Watchdog will alert you of apps running away with your ram and battery, but does not just auto kill all random apps. As far as the Amazon AppStore, I agree that it can be very malicious with RAM if it wants to be even when just checking the FAOTD in the mornings, on my Atrix I would get constant alerts from Watchdog for Amazon AppStore. On my SGN however I have yet to recieve ANY alerts for ANY app yet from Watchdog, this leads me to think there is better optimization going on with ICS or the Nexus than I had with Gingerbread and Atrix.
Is there any reason not to use AutoStarts or WatchDog? They are not auto killing apps at all. And I am requesting a "real" technical explanation not just you opinion or a "think of it like.." story, those are useless to me and offer no explanation.

jordanishere said:
Is it worth doing when Android does this automatically?
Sent from my SGH-T989 using XDA App
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Eh, usually there's not much benefit to be had - but preventing a service from auto starting when you might not use its app for the entire time Android is booted won't cause any problems. You're essentially "freezing" the service while still allowing it to be used on demand .

WiredPirate said:
I agree with using "Autostarts", it's one of my fav apps and cuts down on startup time and certain apps like to be triggered for all kinds of rediculous things. Once again though I think it is counterproductive to use automated task killers. Watchdog will alert you of apps running away with your ram and battery, but does not just auto kill all random apps. As far as the Amazon AppStore, I agree that it can be very malicious with RAM if it wants to be even when just checking the FAOTD in the mornings, on my Atrix I would get constant alerts from Watchdog for Amazon AppStore. On my SGN however I have yet to recieve ANY alerts for ANY app yet from Watchdog, this leads me to think there is better optimization going on with ICS or the Nexus than I had with Gingerbread and Atrix.
Is there any reason not to use AutoStarts or WatchDog? They are not auto killing apps at all. And I am requesting a "real" technical explanation not just you opinion or a "think of it like.." story, those are useless to me and offer no explanation.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
I relied upon autostart tuning and Watchdog on my N1, but haven't experienced a real need for either on the SGN. Not necessarily a technical response, but just my experience.

Wow, the ignorance on XDA is staggering.
A RUNNING SERVICE is not the same as a cached app or background process.
Why the heck would anyone want 3 or 4 running services in the background when they don't need them running?
Right now, I have the logmein service using 26mb, Amazon app store using 38mb, pulse taking up 43mb and I'm NOT using these apps. They are running as services and using ram, battery and cpu.
Continue to defend Android and all its flaws. The user doesn't always have to accept how poorly some things function.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk

EP2008 said:
Right now, I have the logmein service using 26mb, Amazon app store using 38mb, pulse taking up 43mb and I'm NOT using these apps. They are running as services and using ram, battery and cpu.
Continue to defend Android and all its flaws. The user doesn't always have to accept how poorly some things function.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using Tapatalk
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Less an Android flaw and more related to how developers wrote those apps. Otherwise I think we are in agreement though.

codesplice said:
I relied upon autostart tuning and Watchdog on my N1, but haven't experienced a real need for either on the SGN.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
why?
10char

eBay app causing battery drain

Since updating the eBay app yesterday, I'm experiencing major battery drain. Its my main kernel wakelock on BetterBatteryStats.
Anyone know how I can fix this as I use the app quite often and don't want to delete it?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app

nope..i had the app a year ago..i deleted it solely because of the battery drain..sucks to hear that after all this time it hasnt improved

I have to confirm that the ebay app cause massive wakelocks that drain the battery very fast.
I think i will uninstall it until they resolve.

VIP
Famous developers that working in famous apps don't think to end user, their think only at their money, that's why little app developed by 1 devs sometimes are better than official app, this "big" developers think your phone is their, adding stupid things only for make "new feature list" ( facebook story with their "own" camera apps ), they don't think at battery or something that, because their don't use this.
Serious developer don't use at 4 wakelocks at minute for utility App
Serious developer don't use HTML5 instead java ( Facebook story )
Serious developer use app before release.
Uninstall it and use ebay from PC, More secure and more fast.

seakins said:
Since updating the eBay app yesterday, I'm experiencing major battery drain. Its my main kernel wakelock on BetterBatteryStats.
Anyone know how I can fix this as I use the app quite often and don't want to delete it?
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda app-developers app
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
i had the same problem, just installed older version and it's back to normal, new version use new way to display notifications

Battery drain
I'm having the same experience with the app on my HTC One X+, if it makes you feel any better. I disabled all notification alterts and it seems a little better but I'm considering downgrading the app version instead if that doesn't work.

im using it on a SE arc S, I have to say iv noticed battery life has been worse since i installed it, its a shame because its actually a great functioning wee app, if only it would sleep more efficiently

just stopping by to report that the ebay app killed my battery yesterday within 20 minutes... 30% down..

If you use this app often uninstalling it is not an option of course. what you can do if you are on a rooted device is install Titanium Backup and freeze the app when your not using it. When you want to use the app simply unfreeze it and do your business. That will keep the app from killing you battery when it is not being used.

Use greenify, problem solved!
Sent from my maguro using xda app-developers app

Best rom for battery life?

What rom/kernel combo have you guys gotten the best battery life with?
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda premium

robmart said:
What rom/kernel combo have you guys gotten the best battery life with?
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda premium
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
generally, "best ROM" threads are usually not allowed here. it's a subjective question, every phone reacts to rom/kernels differently, everyone runs different apps, uses their phone differently. so I would expect this to be closed, as usually it's recommended to just go read the threads.
that being said, since your question was not an outright stupid "whats the best ROM guys?" question, i'll take a stab. I am currently using LabRats, comes with the LK8 kern (which also has the exnyos exploit, oooh scary!), great batt life. also stock rooted is highly dependable, IMHO.

Cool. Thanks for the response. I would usually just figure it out myself but it's my wife's phone that she uses for work. I'll give it a try.
Sent from my SPH-L720 using xda premium

Any rom that lets you under-clock the CPU.

Avatar ROM is giving me great battery life with phenomenal performance. My recommendation.

Any rom.
Just disable/freeze/uninstall most of the sync/push/notification options in most apps that have them.
For instance, use facebook, twitter, etc all you want but get rid of the facebook notification service. Same for the rest.
Using a sytem app remover I completely removed all the weather and stocks services, the samsung add-on facebook account sync and notification service, flikr, twitter, "social stream" or whatever it was called, skydrive... I did leave dropbox because I might possibly ever use that but I should probably get rid of that too. Email is configured with a working non-gmail account, but settings set NOT to sync or notify. Same for gmail. Got rid of the samsung and sprint proprietary stuff and their attendant updaters too.
Whenever I install a new 3rd party app I check if it has any kind of update/notification/sync options and usually disable them unless it's a real special case. Like podcast and news reader apps like dogcatcher and pulse will sync themselves all the time by default. Turned those off!
Now it's pretty much just google play that updates itself and pretty much just phone and txt that generates any notifications.
Sent from my SPH-L900 using xda premium

Facebook app v Swipe pro?

Personally i have never really felt the need to get rid of the facebook app despite the bad criticism it gets online! Recently however i decided to disable it and use an alternative app (swipe pro) Its not quiet as good as the proper facebook app but its not bad! If it was gonna help with battery life then i was happy to stick with it but iam not so sure it has! Battery life ever since has been equal at best , possibly even a little worse off then i was when i had the facebook app so iam wondering whats the actual difference between the two? Is the facebook app after improving or are alternative apps such as swipe pro simply not as good as they should be? Iam talking strictly in terms of saving battery life here!
Thoughts?

I tried out Swipe for Facebook, but it wasn't as fluent as Metal for Facebook.
All these apps are wrappers for the web version of FB.
I'd always use FB on browser, but it's annoying to view messages (request desktop site and then it doesn't fit to screen. Still though, Metal surely has the fastest loading time for me.
The regular Facebook app (and Messenger) are complete battery hogs. They eat up more resources than they should and have a lot of unneeded permissions. I could deal with that if they didn't force Messenger on it.
Anyways, any third party Facebook app is just a wrapper to the mobile web version. They will always require less permissions and resources.

Ariac Konrel said:
I tried out Swipe for Facebook, but it wasn't as fluent as Metal for Facebook.
All these apps are wrappers for the web version of FB.
I'd always use FB on browser, but it's annoying to view messages (request desktop site and then it doesn't fit to screen. Still though, Metal surely has the fastest loading time for me.
The regular Facebook app (and Messenger) are complete battery hogs. They eat up more resources than they should and have a lot of unneeded permissions. I could deal with that if they didn't force Messenger on it.
Anyways, any third party Facebook app is just a wrapper to the mobile web version. They will always require less permissions and resources.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Any reasoning why i havent seen any improvement in battery life? It actually seems to be a tad worse! I should add that i have not been experiencing poor battery life, Iam content with it but i just wanted to rid myself of facebook and try an alternative in the hope i could improve battery life a little further but in my own personal experience, disabling facebook and using swipe pro instead has made no difference!!

Blaalad12 said:
Personally i have never really felt the need to get rid of the facebook app despite the bad criticism it gets online! Recently however i decided to disable it and use an alternative app (swipe pro) Its not quiet as good as the proper facebook app but its not bad! If it was gonna help with battery life then i was happy to stick with it but iam not so sure it has! Battery life ever since has been equal at best , possibly even a little worse off then i was when i had the facebook app so iam wondering whats the actual difference between the two? Is the facebook app after improving or are alternative apps such as swipe pro simply not as good as they should be? Iam talking strictly in terms of saving battery life here!
Thoughts?
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
You can try "Friendly for Facebook" (https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=io.friendly), it's super smooth and well done. I was using it on iPhone, now it is available for Android too.

Blaalad12 said:
Any reasoning why i havent seen any improvement in battery life? It actually seems to be a tad worse! I should add that i have not been experiencing poor battery life, Iam content with it but i just wanted to rid myself of facebook and try an alternative in the hope i could improve battery life a little further but in my own personal experience, disabling facebook and using swipe pro instead has made no difference!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Placebo?
Have you actually used a proper app to track the app's usage? Wakelocks? Drain? Etc. I'm sure Swipe has less usage.
You're never gonna have a DRASTIC change in overall battery, though.
If you want to improve battery life, look up Greenify.
Even non-root mode is useful.
-------
@benzo
I just downloaded that app and holy crap it's so smooth, I know it wasn't directed to me but thank you. ?

Ariac Konrel said:
Placebo?
Have you actually used a proper app to track the app's usage? Wakelocks? Drain? Etc. I'm sure Swipe has less usage.
You're never gonna have a DRASTIC change in overall battery, though.
If you want to improve battery life, look up Greenify.
Even non-root mode is useful.
-------
@benzo
I just downloaded that app and holy crap it's so smooth, I know it wasn't directed to me but thank you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Is greenify worth it? Seems to be conflicting info on it. Some say its great, others say its not necessary and others say it actually runs in the background and thus they found the battery life to be equally as bad if not worse when using greenify!!

Blaalad12 said:
Is greenify worth it? Seems to be conflicting info on it. Some say its great, others say its not necessary and others say it actually runs in the background and thus they found the battery life to be equally as bad if not worse when using greenify!!
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Greenify drains almost no battery, it's very lightweight and designed to work well.
It's best use would be to shut down apps that run in the background to get less drain. I do it when I am at work and whatnot, it saves a lot of battery for me in the end.
It also does aggresive doze (optional) to further save some juice.
There's no way Greenify can make your battery worse, I've never heard of that.
The only thing that can is like 85% of those battery saver apps on the Play Store. I'm sure some are good, but most suck.

I switched from FB to Swipe Pro a few month ago. According to GSam battery monitor, FB was always the top drainer, Swipe is much more easy on the battery.

Ariac Konrel said:
I just downloaded that app and holy crap it's so smooth, I know it wasn't directed to me but thank you.
Click to expand...
Click to collapse
Glad to hear that

Does anyone here know what the best set up for swipe pro is? After using it the past 24 hours i quiet like it and battery life does seem to have been improved a little but i have two issues! Iam not seeing/receiving any notifications unless i go in to the app? I have 'enable notifications' ticked and whilst they are present within the app, iam not seeing them until i use the app which sucks a little!! Ironically i have 'vibrate' off and when i go into the app and the notification shows itself it vibrates ha Any ideas?
Also, the settings in general are a bit confusing in my opinion. For example , should i toggled 'enable messages' to on or leave off if i still use messenger? and with notification frequency sync . I had it set to manual on the original app but on this thats not an option?? Is there a difference in how both work? And what is foreground syncing?
Thanks
Oh and on a side note. Whilst i know the difference between amoled and lcd panels and understand that each pixel is being used with lcd regardless of wether the wallpaper is black or not! Is there any power savings to be had at all by using black wallpapers/themes on the htc 10??

bump