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Why you don’t need a task killer app with Android.

http://androidspin.com/2010/05/25/why-you-dont-need-a-task-killer-app-with-android/
Why you don’t need a task killer app with Android.
Posted Posted by Cody Banks on 25th May 2010 Comments 5 comments
A lot of people have asked us what the best app is for killing tasks? Well, the answer is none of them. Sure there are some nice apps out there for killing tasks, but the fact is you just don’t need one with Android. In fact, most developers
won’t even look at your logcat file if they see you running a task killer app on your Android-based phone.
To clear things up about this, Google’s Android developers blog has finally put this debate to rest about why a task killer is unnecessary, as well as why there are certain services that run in the background all the time, I’m sure at one time or another you’ve seen them and asked yourself “Why do those services keep starting after I kill them?”. Below you can read about when applications stop.......
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I've found no matter how many times it's said, someone will have an anecdote about how their phone became amazingly fast or they doubled battery life using one of these apps. People who want to use them will continue to do so. Don't trouble yourself.

It's nice to have one to kill the odd app that is messing up, but other than that I don't use one.

Aitese said:
I've found no matter how many times it's said, someone will have an anecdote about how their phone became amazingly fast or they doubled battery life using one of these apps. People who want to use them will continue to do so. Don't trouble yourself.
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the reason people say this is because it's actually true.
that's just the truth, maybe you should try using one and notice the difference.
I uninstalled mine for the first time yesterday to test the theory and today, my battery lasted a grand total of 4.5 hours. that's a whole 3 hours less than before.
and at the end of the day, when it's laggy and then use the TK, it really does clear things up.
still wish there was a way to make the battery last longer, it really does suck

samac92 said:
It's nice to have one to kill the odd app that is messing up, but other than that I don't use one.
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You can do this from android... no need for an app.

Barff1984 said:
I uninstalled mine for the first time yesterday to test the theory and today, my battery lasted a grand total of 4.5 hours. that's a whole 3 hours less than before.
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I'd say if you're only getting between 4.5 and 7.5 hours battery life, I'd say you've probably got a rogue app installed anyway.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
I'd say if you're only getting between 4.5 and 7.5 hours battery life, I'd say you've probably got a rogue app installed anyway.
Regards,
Dave
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I agree, taskkillers aren't battery savers they are drainers...
Have had my desire for a couple of days now (comming from a htc hero) and since I removed my taskmanager my desire has juice for about 1,5 days.
With taskpanel I hardly reached 24 hours... And I haven't noticed the device becoming slower...
I don't miss it and if I don't get any strange apps I won't ever install a taskmanager again...

well there are some apps which don't work properly.
Take the xda android app as example. it would sometimes just freeze, and there was no way to restart the app, no option for force close was provided by Android OS either.
In this case Android isn't doing anything, so you have to kill the process manually using
1. the default android feature
2. using a task killer.
I like the quick access to the advanced task killer over the notification area, therefore i use it.
People can tell me whole day long how ingenius Android is, and that it will do everything automatically. But i made very different experiences with some 3rd party apps, which needed some killing every now and then. The xda app is only ONE example of many.

Barff1984 said:
the reason people say this is because it's actually true.
that's just the truth, maybe you should try using one and notice the difference.
I uninstalled mine for the first time yesterday to test the theory and today, my battery lasted a grand total of 4.5 hours. that's a whole 3 hours less than before.
and at the end of the day, when it's laggy and then use the TK, it really does clear things up.
still wish there was a way to make the battery last longer, it really does suck
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The thing is I HAVE used them. Advanced Task Killer was the first app I installed on receiving my Desire...the phone became glitchy and buggy and laggy and it was horrible. I uninstalled ATK and all that stopped. It now NEVER slows down, and I'm getting well over 8hrs of use a day.
I suspect you have a buggy app, and THAT is what you need to find.
We need to stop giving bad app developers a feww ride by ignoring their bad code and just killing the process. Uninstall their app, give it a bad review and insist on using a rival app.

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
well there are some apps which don't work properly.
Take the xda android app as example. it would sometimes just freeze, and there was no way to restart the app, no option for force close was provided by Android OS either.
In this case Android isn't doing anything, so you have to kill the process manually using
1. the default android feature
2. using a task killer.
I like the quick access to the advanced task killer over the notification area, therefore i use it.
People can tell me whole day long how ingenius Android is, and that it will do everything automatically. But i made very different experiences with some 3rd party apps, which needed some killing every now and then. The xda app is only ONE example of many.
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You can force close an app from Android. Menu > Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > Locate the app > open it and force stop.
Create a shortcut to manage applications short cut on your home screen if you like, then you'll only need to do this:
Open Manage Applictions short cut > Locate the app > open it and force stop. - This is just as simple as using a task manager shortcut.

TheOriginalKi said:
You can force close an app from Android. Menu > Settings > Applications > Manage Applications > Locate the app > open it and force stop.
Create a shortcut to manage applications short cut on your home screen if you like, then you'll only need to do this:
Open Manage Applictions short cut > Locate the app > open it and force stop. - This is just as simple as using a task manager shortcut.
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actually using the notification drawer is more comfortable for me. But this is just personal preference.

Yes-They might be useful to kill the occasional rogue app. but apart from that they are pretty pointless. Android does a good job of killing tasks itself.
Despite all the evidence to the contrary people many will continue to use them and use them indiscriminately. Still if they want generally poorer performance and reduced battery life surely that is their choice.

Shahpur.Azizpour said:
actually using the notification drawer is more comfortable for me. But this is just personal preference.
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How does that work. the notification draw is pretty much blank most of the time save for new message/downloads etc ?

has anyone actually tried to load up so many apps, so there's almost no memory left, so android kills other apps by himself? It's all excellent in theory, but never witnessed it in real life.

guys I had advanced task manager installed in my phone and my phone was laggy, and my battery was always down to 40-50% at the end of the day, but yesterday on someone's advice I removed ATM, and instantly i noticed the difference, there was no lag in the menus and everything was smooth, and today my battery was an astonishing 85 % remaining when i came back home, and I intentionaly used my phone more than usual. so at least one thing is sure that I will not be using any task manager.

matthoy said:
How does that work. the notification draw is pretty much blank most of the time save for new message/downloads etc ?
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with advanced task manager you can see a small icon at the notification area (at all times). When pulling down the drawer you'll see an entry which says "advanced task manager".
just touch it and a list with current running apps will show up.

kamidadevil said:
guys I had advanced task manager installed in my phone and my phone was laggy, and my battery was always down to 40-50% at the end of the day, but yesterday on someone's advice I removed ATM, and instantly i noticed the difference, there was no lag in the menus and everything was smooth, and today my battery was an astonishing 85 % remaining when i came back home, and I intentionaly used my phone more than usual. so at least one thing is sure that I will not be using any task manager.
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there are way too many variables in this equation, as to just claim that ATM is responsible for hogging 30-40% battery power per day.
Of course it will have some kind of impact, just like other apps too. But i don't think that it will have a much bigger impact.

no, I dont think there are any variables involved in my case except ATM, I never use internet on mine phone during the day coz i always have internet access on my laptop, instead today I used wifi intentionaly just for testing battery and played asphalt which I normaly dont play during the work hours,

Here's a video from the Developer site that explains very well how Android manages Apps:
http://developer.android.com/videos/index.html#v=fL6gSd4ugSI
And if I really need to kill something (very rare!) then I use Task Tray Beta:
http://www.appbrain.com/app/com.stonedonkey.tasktray or find it in the Market.
This app is also great for seeing what 's actually running and what 's not anymore. And for switching to some App that you know is running, but in the default Android task switcher you can see only 6 apps.... and this will show all.

I tried out a few task killer but all they did was stop my alarm going off in the morning! I'm sure that's something I could have changed though.
I find the best way to keep my desire running nice and quick is to give it a reboot every morning on my way to work. Only takes a couple of minutes....give it a try...

HTC Stuff Killing Battery, How About Vanilla 2.1 Rom?

Is there anyway to TOTALLY remove sense UI + widgets and all the rest of the HTC crap?
I know about disabling it, but that doesn't really stop processes from running. Of course there's taskiller and autostarts but how about a rom that is vanilla 2.1 for Evo 4G??
I've found that battery life GREATLY improves when all that HTC crap is killed.

yesterday i had 15 hours and was at 20% yet.. and that was after pandora, mp3, cellmapper (runs continually on way home from work for 30 min)
What are you looking to get out of the phone? 2-3 days? I carry an extra battery just in case

This isn't my first Android phone, no I'm not expecting 2-3 days. One FULL day would suffice. My Moto Droid overclocked to 800Mhz, can last through the entire day sometimes no charge required until the next morning. Something on par with that would suffice. I need to be able to use my phone as I normally would (i.e. like my Droid) without disabling Wifi and BT. 4G is always disabled on my phone.
My point is, I've found it's all the HTC widgets, and garbage running the background that's really putting a dent in the battery. If we had a Vanilla Android rom (for those who want it, I'm sure i'm not the only one) I think we'd see a lot better battery life.

check out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6736792
I did remove a few apps from my phone last night.. make sure you have a nand backup before you do anything.. i needed to do a restore

Thanks, good stuff. Did you get those 15 hrs before or after you removed apps from that link you provided.

This is always going to be asked. If someone doesn't have a phone with HTC Sense UI then they want it and mod their phone to look like Sense UI. If someone has it stock on their phone then they want it off. Its just the way it goes. It does eat more battery running but it looks great to most people.

I believe we are waiting for HTC to release the kernel source before an AOSP ROM is ported.

I'd LOVE a vanilla EVO ROM. Coming from ADP1 > Droid > N1, the EVO doesn't even feel like an android device to me.

Use AutoKiller or Auto Memory Manager and not a "taskkiller". Taskkillers can do more harm than good. Example: You have it set to keep killing off a program that is restarted over and over thus killing battery. Set Autokiller to Extreme and enjoy hardly any apps running once they finish. Also, have you tried not syncing so often ie mail/Facebook/Peep/Twitter? The HTC stuff shouldn't be using enough to make a noticeable difference. Or at least, I don't notice anyways. Also, turn off "Always On Mobile Network". That, hands down, is the best thing you can do to save battery. Next would be Location. Turn off Wirelesss Networks. Use the GPS option. I leave mine ON all the time. It only really turns on when you are using it or an app needs it and then it turns off. It doesn't use as much juice as the Wireless Network option.
But if you want to disable HTC Sense, download an app called Home Switcher from the Market. Set the default to "Home". Click Launch. Enjoy.

sitting at 19 hours with heavy usage still with 30% battery left after being ain a building all day
not sure what every one is screaming about a bad battery life

notasimpleway said:
But if you want to disable HTC Sense, download an app called Home Switcher from the Market. Set the default to "Home". Click Launch. Enjoy.
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But of course, that does absolutely nothing to actually disable Sense. NOTHING you can do will disable it. This is just using an alternate home launcher instead of Rosie from Sense, but you still have all of Sense's parts running in the background and heavily integrated into the OS.b

TheBiles said:
I believe we are waiting for HTC to release the kernel source before an AOSP ROM is ported.
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Thanks for actually answering my question! Glad to hear it!

Not completely true. Once Android realizes that Sense is not doing anything it stops it. Somethings you can't stop. But the OP wanted Sense off.
But if you want to disable HTC Sense, download an app called Home Switcher from the Market. Set the default to "Home". Click Launch. Enjoy.
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But of course, that does absolutely nothing to actually disable Sense. NOTHING you can do will disable it. This is just using an alternate home launcher instead of Rosie from Sense, but you still have all of Sense's parts running in the background and heavily integrated into the OS.b
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TheBiles said:
But of course, that does absolutely nothing to actually disable Sense. NOTHING you can do will disable it. This is just using an alternate home launcher instead of Rosie from Sense, but you still have all of Sense's parts running in the background and heavily integrated into the OS.b
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Linpack while using Sense as your home screen results in high 4s
Linpack while using AWD Launcher as home screen results in ~6.9s
I understand what you're saying about Sense being built into the framework, and I agree with you. I don't like it either. But using an alternate home app does make a difference.

I have a rom I am working on. I have removed sense and all sprint apps. It runs a lot faster and battery is a lot better.

I have been running a rom I am working on. I have removed sense and all sprint apps. It runs a lot faster and battery is a lot better.

Gregalous said:
Linpack while using Sense as your home screen results in high 4s
Linpack while using AWD Launcher as home screen results in ~6.9s
I understand what you're saying about Sense being built into the framework, and I agree with you. I don't like it either. But using an alternate home app does make a difference.
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Not sure what's wrong with your phone, but I hit 6.9 WITH Sense launcher.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=696220

joey3002 said:
check out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6736792
I did remove a few apps from my phone last night.. make sure you have a nand backup before you do anything.. i needed to do a restore
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I made a nandroid backup when I rooted but where does it store it, on the phone? Is there any way to make a backup of it somewhere just encase, I am all about making backups of stuff so I can revert later if necessary

On your SD card. In a folder called Nandroid. Just copy the folder to your computer for a backup.
check out:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=6736792
I did remove a few apps from my phone last night.. make sure you ha
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I made a nandroid backup when I rooted but where does it store it, on the phone? Is there any way to make a backup of it somewhere just encase, I am all about making backups of stuff so I can revert later if necessary
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[Q]Coming over from blackberry, what are the first things I should do?

Hey
I am an android noob. I am comng over from a bb 9800 torch. So my question is what should i do first with the phone. I am planning on rooting eventually, probably by next week. Are there any must install apps to install first?
A few things i am not a fan of so far are the lock screen and the keyboard.
Thanks everyone for your help.

Look up SwiftKey X or ICS Keyboard on the market. Both are excellent keyboards if you are not feelin' Swype.

I wasn't a Swype person when I first started, but just give it some time! Its worth it
The lock screen you can change by using an app called "widget locker." But if your going to root you should look into flashing a custom ROM, most of then have options to change the lock screen. Much simpler then having to do it through a constantly running app.
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The biggest thing I found is that it doesn't support advanced sound profiles out of the box. Also you have to configure notification options from within each app instead of being able to manipulate them all at the same time. If this is at all possible without installing an app then I haven't found it yet. I used to use a 9630 tour. There's a lot more that you'll find different, I'm sure.
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mintharis said:
The biggest thing I found is that it doesn't support advanced sound profiles out of the box. Also you have to configure notification options from within each app instead of being able to manipulate them all at the same time. If this is at all possible without installing an app then I haven't found it yet. I used to use a 9630 tour. There's a lot more that you'll find different, I'm sure.
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but that is easily fixed with 3rd party Sound Ringtones/Alert apps from Market, they are all free
gives you much much better control than stock

I am not really planning on installing a new rom yet, so i am going to have to look for a lockscreen app. I'll give widget locker a try and see how it goes.
A few things that i am noticing is that you cant customize alerts and and ringtones easily or at all. I spent 30 mins tryin to find it but couldnt. I guess i'll have to go 3rd party.
Apparently there is no battery indicator for battery level. I was try to find out how much vharge i have left but couldn't. I am assuming i am going to need a 3rd party app for that as well? Any recommendations?
I have read about juice defender. Is it worth the price for the ultimate edition? Juice defender is the app that automatically toggle my wifi, gps, 4g settings for me right?
And lastly i know people sais you can monitor your data usage but i cant find it on the phone. Some help navigating to it would be helpful.
Thanks to everyone for their opinions. Xda is probably one of the better forums for information and help i have been to.

New_here said:
I am not really planning on installing a new rom yet, so i am going to have to look for a lockscreen app. I'll give widget locker a try and see how it goes.
A few things that i am noticing is that you cant customize alerts and and ringtones easily or at all. I spent 30 mins tryin to find it but couldnt. I guess i'll have to go 3rd party.
Apparently there is no battery indicator for battery level. I was try to find out how much vharge i have left but couldn't. I am assuming i am going to need a 3rd party app for that as well? Any recommendations?
I have read about juice defender. Is it worth the price for the ultimate edition? Juice defender is the app that automatically toggle my wifi, gps, 4g settings for me right?
And lastly i know people sais you can monitor your data usage but i cant find it on the phone. Some help navigating to it would be helpful.
Thanks to everyone for their opinions. Xda is probably one of the better forums for information and help i have been to.
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You can easily change custom ringtones when you click on each contact name and scroll down to ringtone and select a file.
Definitely get go launcher and go locker. It's the best homescreen and locker app Imo.
To monitor data usage, use an app like Watchdog dats monitor. Your provider should also have the usage on their website...
I bought juice defender ultimate and i dont regret spending a single cent. I want to squeeze as much juice out of my battery as possible. You could probably try out basic and judge it yourself.
Do you just mean battery charge %? Go to settings, about phone, status. Alternatively you can flash a battery mod so that you have the percentage on the battery icon on the status bar.
You will definitely enjoy android. I came froma blackberry too.
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Zedge from the market works good for ringtones and such.
I would install go locker and go SMS for a much nicer lock screen and SMS client.
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[BATTERY]Tips for better battery life

Here i would be presenting a thread in which i will be talking about how to get the most of your battery on our beautiful phones. It is a fact that at this moment of time battery is not that great on the HOX. But hopefully with the tips that i will present here, shall help people get the max out of their battery till we have some custom kernels drop our way. So without further or do i present a few things that you can do to get the most out of your battery.​​​​
Tips for better battery life​
1) Touch screen sounds and lock screen sounds untick them from Settings-Sound. That causes the audio_out1 wakelock and unfortunately it is here as well on the HOX and drains battery like hell. So untick those so you do not get that massive wakelock
2) If you are using stock rom and have not rooted yet you can use this option to disable bloatware. Go into settings-apps and go into all. There you can select the applications you want to disable. What that does it will not unistall them but freeze them like TB does for rooted phones. It will remove them from the background and from your app screen to. Pretty nice feature if you ask me. Mainly disable your carrier apps and the google ones as well like Play Books, Play Movies and Play Music if you do not use them. Just a small addition to be added thanks to (pnnorth)- If there have been any play store updates to the app, you will need to uninstall the update before it will show the option to disable the app (eg facebook)
3) If you are using Titanium Backup(i always recommend to get the Pro version) you can uninstall those apps or freeze them if you like. For me i personally would uninstall them as they do not have any use for me.
4) If you are at home and you want to browse the net on your phone always make sure you use Wifi. It is a no brainer that wifi drains less battery than 3G. So always have your mobile data in settings as off and just use wifi. When you are out and about though make sure you have wifi off and use your mobile data on your phone instead. Because if you have wifi on as well it will try and scan for the available networks it can pick up and that causes drainage on your battery. Have that off when you go out.
5) Regarding brightness. Make sure you either have it on low settings or auto. It is a fact that if you have max brightness for your display that is a battery killer as well. Settings-display-brightness and just adjust from there.
6) Regarding task killer apps or battery saving apps like Juice Defender i recommend to stay away from those. Those apps consume more battery than they are suppose to be saving. Regarding task killers it is NOT recommended to kill apps because Android does that for you anyway. Just make sure you the application that you use, you always use the back button to exit the app or just go into multitask and swipe it away.
7) If you are rooted make sure you fully charge your phone and then in recovery or from Leedroid tweaks if you are using that make sure you wipe battery stats. That always helps as well.
8) Regarding sync your accounts. Now i have mine on autosync. From reading around having to sync your email account and facebook and twitter and whatever account you have syncing that drains battery. Now you can do two things. One either set the option to have those on manual sync or if you do not use facebook then uninstall it. But to be honest i have everything on autosync and still get good battery so it is down to user preference really. But for those interested go into settings-accounts and sync and adjust to your choosing.
9) Switch to gsm/2g only instead of wcdma/3g in settings >mobile network >Network Mode. Specially if you're not planning to use any 3g internet/mms features. (thanks to Gdelrosario)
10) Try to avoid ad supported apps. A research showed that in apps where there is adds, 70% of the power use comes from downloading and managing those adds to your screen. 30sec use of an app that uses adds, might drain your fully charged battery 0.35%-0.70%. Research link found here (thanks to Tont0)
11) Settings > Developer options > Windows animation scale > "Animation is OFF".
12) Mentioned this above but will re-post here again with a bit more detail. (thanks to AndroidGX) If you have multiple mail accounts, turn off auto-sync feature to refresh them manually. Settings > Accounts & sync > Auto-sync : [UNTICK]
Note: this will works also for any app like Facebook, Twitter, Beautiful Widget, etc..
13) Disabling the options for louder ringtone when inside a pocket and stopping the ringtone when picking up the device might also help. (thanks to Hardstuffmuc)
14) Settings > Wi-Fi > Advanced > Keep Wi-Fi on during sleep : "Only when plugged in". That way wifi will not be on all the time and that means saving bit of juice in the process
LINKS:​
*Link to the thread for BetterBatteryStats is below. Please install that app as it will help you to identify what app consumes your battery when you have screen off.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
*Another great thread to have a look at is the Rom Cleaner by Patrics83. What it does it basically gives you this option : Will remove as much as possible without breaking HTC Sense Launcher and Widgets! This is the best way to come close to a no-sense ROM and still use HTC Sense!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1589949
That is it for now. I will be updating this thread when i come across more battery saving tips. For now if anyone has anymore please post them and i will add them to the OP and give a thanks to you by adding your name next to the tip.

Was going to compile a list of apps that are safe to disable (for non-rooted users) and what to freeze uninstall (for rooted users). But since there is Rom Cleaner thread by Patrics83 as i have stated above you are probably best to go to his thread here where you can use his script and follow the guide on OP. This is script is for rooted users.
There also you can find a list of applications that is safe to disable for all those who are non rooted. Settings-apps and then go into all apps. As pointed out in first post tip 2 first if the application you are trying to disable has been updated first uninstall the updates and then disable the app
That is it for now more will follow

6) Regarding task killer apps or battery saving apps like Juice Defender i recommend to stay away from those. Those apps consume more battery than they are suppose to be saving. Regarding task killers it is NOT recommended to kill apps because Android does that for you anyway. Just make sure you the application that you use, you always use the back button to exit the app or just go into multitask and swipe it away.
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This is not a task killer. Also the apps are not aktive in backgraound, they are hibernatet. If you want to kill a task go to task manager.

lokiderelb said:
This is not a task killer. Also the apps are not aktive in backgraound, they are hibernatet. If you want to kill a task go to task manager.
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Juice Defender=Battery Saving App = Not so much of a battery saving app
And Maps, and even facebook are active in the background my friend. by disabling them you are kinda like freezing them anyway. And yes if you read above if you want to kill a task or terminate an app i did mention that you can do that through Task manager. Or even by going into multi tasking app and swiping the one that you do not use anymore exits the app my friend
Trust me i done my research before posting this thread. But i am also open to correcting something if i am wrong.

Just a small addition to point 2) - If there have been any play store updates to the app, you will need to uninstall the update before it will show the option to disable the app (eg facebook)
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pnnorth said:
Just a small addition to point 2) - If there have been any play store updates to the app, you will need to uninstall the update before it will show the option to disable the app (eg facebook)
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Done added that to the OP. Thanks mate..Hopefully this thread will come to some use to people.

Nice effort. I wouldn't take it as gospel tho'. But plenty to try and see what works for you.
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I already made another thread posting this one, but as I noticed there is one where to gather some common tips, I might as well add it here.
Try to avoid ad supported apps. A research showed that in apps where there is adds, 70% of the power use comes from downloading and managing those adds to your screen. 30sec use of an app that uses adds, might drain your fully charged battery 0.35%-0.70%.
Here is the link for the research http://www.androidauthority.com/ad-suported-android-apps-battery-drain-65716/

Very good thread. I tend to do most of what is mentioned anyway. As soon I got the phone I was busy tweaking the settings so that I could get the maximum power out of the battery. I'm not considered a heavy user anyway so it typically lasts 2-3 days.

you can also add to switch to gsm/2g only instead of wcdma/3g in settings >mobile network >Network Mode
specially if you're not planning to use any 3g internet/mms features

Cheers guys...Any tips that we can get i can add them all to the OP so that way we can have one thread which has everything. That way no need for clutter of threads regarding on how to improve battery life people can come here and read and discuss. Thank you guys i really appreciate your help

Added the new tips to the OP. Thanks

Qn: Are all battery saving apps not actually saving battery then? (E.g. Juice Defender)

NoobTerminator said:
7) If you are rooted make sure you fully charge your phone and then in recovery or from Leedroid tweaks if you are using that make sure you wipe battery stats. That always helps as well.
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wiping battery stats is done when reaching 100% charge and holds nothing but the useage of apps and does nothing to calibrate or improve battery life.
heres a quote to back this up.
Deleting this file will basically wipe your battery usage reports, which is done anyways automatically when the phone is fully charged (hence you'll see a clear list when you reach a full charge). "Deleting it is not going to do anything to make your more device more fantastic and wonderful".
http://pocketnow.com/android/deleting-androids-batterystatsbin-wont-grant-more-jiuce

junialum said:
Qn: Are all battery saving apps not actually saving battery then? (E.g. Juice Defender)
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i will be honest with you. When i had my galaxy s2 and i had juice defender on that drained more battery than it was suppose to be saving. I could find you posts from users and kernel developers that i know from the s2 forums that advice against it. It is down to you to try and test but from my own testings i would advice against using them

NoobTerminator said:
i will be honest with you. When i had my galaxy s2 and i had juice defender on that drained more battery than it was suppose to be saving. I could find you posts from users and kernel developers that i know from the s2 forums that advice against it. It is down to you to try and test but from my own testings i would advice against using them
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Thanks for the reply. My question was more general. Do you mean that there are no good battery apps?

How can we tel which apps support ads? I keep getting notifications in my status bar from random sites how can I stop that.
Thank you
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treebill said:
wiping battery stats is done when reaching 100% charge and holds nothing but the useage of apps and does nothing to calibrate or improve battery life.
heres a quote to back this up.
Deleting this file will basically wipe your battery usage reports, which is done anyways automatically when the phone is fully charged (hence you'll see a clear list when you reach a full charge). "Deleting it is not going to do anything to make your more device more fantastic and wonderful".
http://pocketnow.com/android/deleting-androids-batterystatsbin-wont-grant-more-jiuce
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True. You do have a point. but also on the other hand there has been people that saying by wiping battery stats that deletes the battery history makes everything start fresh as you mentioned above. What i am trying to get maybe it works maybe it does not. But one thing i know from my own experience by deleting those battery stats did help a bit on my battery. Hence why i posted that in the OP.
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Thanks for the reply. My question was more general. Do you mean that there are no good battery apps?
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Like i said mate. In general i have not bothered with battery apps. For me they eat more battery than they are suppose to be saving. If you follow my guide and also search on xda to find more threads like mine most will say that battery apps really do nothing..But it is down to you at the end of the day.

Mzhaze3 said:
How can we tel which apps support ads? I keep getting notifications in my status bar from random sites how can I stop that.
Thank you
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That is easy to figure out. Most of the times it will be all the free apps in the market. If you are rooted install ADaway and that will install the hosts on your phone and will block those ads.

I'm not rooted lol
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[Q] Battery Life Problem

Recently, my HTC One X has constantly been dropping with battery. It would go from 100% to 30% or 20% without me doing anything.
Any suggestions why?

Sigh, read the goddamn forums before starting a goddamn thread. Install betterbatterystats.
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XxVcVxX said:
Sigh, read the goddamn forums before starting a goddamn thread. Install betterbatterystats.
Sent from my faster than SGS3 HOX.
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Listen yeah, how you're a senior member is beyond me. If you want to help, send me a link or something, if you don't, don't bring yourself into this thread. I am eligible to post threads based on my concerns, therefore I should receive some assistance, and it's fine if it's not from you. There is no need for you to reply with such frustration. Thank you.

Threads like this are always opened, answered. The search function is there to be used, use it.
Every battery question has been answered with installing betterbatterystats and finding a rogue app or wakelock.
Sent from my faster than SGS3 HOX.

You become a senior member if you make 100 posts.
Anyway, it looks like you have an app which is keeping your phone awake a lot. That's the reason for the quick drain. If you go to Settings>Power>Battery use you'll see that your 'Awake' bar is full most of the time. There's an app called BetterBatteryStats in the Play Store. It also has a thread here on xda with an xda-members-only free version. This app will give you a lot more detailed info than the default Android battery usage screen. You can find out what's keeping the phone awake (called wakelocks) and uninstall that app. If no app is keeping your phone awake, then the reason for your quick battery drop may be a failing battery. In that case you'll have to replace the battery.
Also in case of battery posts, if you're using any ROM other than stock, it's better to mention your ROM name and CPU governor and frequency settings.
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sashank said:
You become a senior member if you make 100 posts.
Anyway, it looks like you have an app which is keeping your phone awake a lot. That's the reason for the quick drain. If you go to Settings>Power>Battery use you'll see that your 'Awake' bar is full most of the time. There's an app called BetterBatteryStats in the Play Store. It also has a thread here on xda with an xda-members-only free version. This app will give you a lot more detailed info than the default Android battery usage screen. You can find out what's keeping the phone awake (called wakelocks) and uninstall that app. If no app is keeping your phone awake, then the reason for your quick battery drop may be a failing battery. In that case you'll have to replace the battery.
Also in case of battery posts, if you're using any ROM other than stock, it's better to mention your ROM name and CPU governor and frequency settings.
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Hey thanks for that quick reply. I have installed betterbatterystats but can't seem to find out what's draining the battery. Any tips? Should I post a screenshot or something? I'm thinking of completely doing a factory reset to the phone, would that do any good? Thanks

WFSFTW said:
Hey thanks for that quick reply. I have installed betterbatterystats but can't seem to find out what's draining the battery. Any tips? Should I post a screenshot or something? I'm thinking of completely doing a factory reset to the phone, would that do any good? Thanks
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Plz Mention R u on stock Rom or on other and also tell me ur usage pattern like ur wifi/2g/3g always on when ur phone is in sleep mode ?

That should do a lot of good, yes. Because you'll have a fresh system and you can watch what apps you install. Especially be careful about apps with low ratings and low number of downloads. If this is still happening, then let BetterBatteryStats run from a full charge to empty and take screenshots of the overview section and wakelocks section.
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sashank said:
That should do a lot of good, yes. Because you'll have a fresh system and you can watch what apps you install. Especially be careful about apps with low ratings and low number of downloads. If this is still happening, then let BetterBatteryStats run from a full charge to empty and take screenshots of the overview section and wakelocks section.
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I am on stock rom and I haven't rooted or any thing. I really am considering a reset. I'll backup the contacts and all my important stuff and just carry out a factory reset. May do the trick thanks anyways for your reply. After resetting ill post regular screenshots of those specific categories. Thanks

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I am on stock rom and I haven't rooted or any thing. I really am considering a reset. I'll backup the contacts and all my important stuff and just carry out a factory reset. May do the trick thanks anyways for your reply. After resetting ill post regular screenshots of those specific categories. Thanks
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About three weeks after originally purchasing my One X, it did exactly this, with battery life tanking. A full factory reset cleared the problem, along with a complete battery charge cycle. Haven't had any issues with battery since then - 6 months ago now.