Does it matter if i have 50 over flash counts or zero flash counts? I still have to pay the same to Samsung for fixing my phone right? So i need not bother about Triangle Away?
Btw, I heard even if you use Triangle Away, the device status will change to modified from normal after a few weeks of usage without flashing anything? True?
Ev0d3vil said:
Does it matter if i have 50 over flash counts or zero flash counts? I still have to pay the same to Samsung for fixing my phone right? So i need not bother about Triangle Away?
Btw, I heard even if you use Triangle Away, the device status will change to modified from normal after a few weeks of usage without flashing anything? True?
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If your Counter is 0 and Official and you can claim your warranty, Triangle away works but you need to be complete Stock to show as official.
aukhan said:
If your Counter is 0 and Official and you can claim your warranty, Triangle away works but you need to be complete Stock to show as official.
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Well i mentioned my set doesnt have warranty in the first place..
Ev0d3vil said:
Well i mentioned my set doesnt have warranty in the first place..
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oh ok then no worries :good:
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On the TMO GS3, and all this discussion about the Flash ticker, so let me understand that having 1 on the ticker voids warranty? Also, does it get to a certain number and shut the phone down? If I am not worried about the warranty, I should be able to flash many times correct?
Also, does rooting from Odin, count as a tick?
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On the TMO GS3, and all this discussion about the Flash ticker, so let me understand that having 1 on the ticker voids warranty? Also, does it get to a certain number and shut the phone down? If I am not worried about the warranty, I should be able to flash many times correct?
Also, does rooting from Odin, count as a tick?
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Depends on the script. It reacts to altered binary scripts, I think. Technically your warranty would be void if there's a number other than zero there. You can use triangle away by chainfire to reset the counter. On stock Roms, it should also change the status back from "modified."
it never shuts the phone off. It is just so they can refuse to honor warranty repairs if they want.
Triangle away (an app from the playstore) can reset the counter, now
You can flash all you want
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The Root said:
Depends on the script. It reacts to altered binary scripts, I think. Technically your warranty would be void if there's a number other than zero there. You can use triangle away by chainfire to reset the counter. On stock Roms, it should also change the status back from "modified."
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Unfortunately it does not change the status from Modified. Chainfire's notes on the app say that is outside the scope of triangle away.
To get rid of the Modified status you have to ODIN to stock, from what I have read.
^^^^^ you're saying if we odin to stock, then download "triangle away" on the stock rom, and that'll take off the 'modified' and it will drop the ticker down to zero? then we can delete the triangle away app, right?
I am running stock rooted and after few days of root the status changed itself from modified to normal! I didn't initially believe someone on the forum when he said it will automatically change back
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radioraheem said:
Unfortunately it does not change the status from Modified. Chainfire's notes on the app say that is outside the scope of triangle away.
To get rid of the Modified status you have to ODIN to stock, from what I have read.
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You must have talked to him after i did. He thought it might when i was testing.
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Has anyone tried the usbjig? I just can't seeing the software doing a permanent fix.
TheAxman said:
Has anyone tried the usbjig? I just can't seeing the software doing a permanent fix.
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The usb jig just forces the phone into download mode. If you are worried about the counter, use triangle away and then Odin a stock ROM. Stock items do not trip the counter.
I got my note 2 (I317) from ATT days ago and dropped it while it's naked from my pocket. Now the screen and the corners looks really not nice.
I have flashed it with custom ROM cause it does not support any SMS other than English and Spanish, not even Korean !
I know ATT won't honer the warranty for the 30 days period once they found that and m really regret that I refused to get an insurance for such a device.
I have the stock recovery but triangle away cannot set flash counter to 1 as the ROM is not stock.
Anyone could help me out I will honer rewards
scrosler said:
What do you mean "sort of?"
Why dont you start a thread in Q/A and PM the link to your questions and I can help you.
Dont want this to go off topic.
Thanks!
-Scott
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Did I make myself ? Hope you could help me.
Sounds like you will need a stock Odin Image.
You can try flashing stock rooted odex rom but I am not so sure that will help.
IM sure someone will get a odin tar soon. Why do you want to send it back to AT&T if you damaged it?
They wont take it back with physical damage will they?
scrosler said:
Sounds like you will need a stock Odin Image.
You can try flashing stock rooted odex rom but I am not so sure that will help.
IM sure someone will get a odin tar soon. Why do you want to send it back to AT&T if you damaged it?
They wont take it back with physical damage will they?
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I assume it's within the 30 days period and they will at let me return it (damages are not that obvious) for a $35 restocking fee. They case I bought there is not really helping again any damage and the flip cover is silly in my onion (hard to use with one hand)
I just hope someone would be making the tar within the next 25 days.
Can I try flashinging your stock ROM with the Model.zip I have using the CWM recovery ?
powmars said:
I got my note 2 (I317) from ATT days ago and dropped it while it's naked from my pocket. Now the screen and the corners looks really not nice.
I have flashed it with custom ROM cause it does not support any SMS other than English and Spanish, not even Korean !
I know ATT won't honer the warranty for the 30 days period once they found that and m really regret that I refused to get an insurance for such a device.
I have the stock recovery but triangle away cannot set flash counter to 1 as the ROM is not stock.
Anyone could help me out I will honer rewards
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So if flash counter is set to 1 that means you can still qualify for warrenty repair?
llsektorll said:
So if flash counter is set to 1 that means you can still qualify for warrenty repair?
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No you cannot. Even if they helped you replace for the first one, they will found it and void your warranty on their end. Unless you gave them a real brick so they cannot response before force it into download mode.
Even if you flash your device (any device from ATT) a Samsung Stock ROM will void the warranty. Chainfire's triangle away can only set the counter to 0 and reset the statue to Official when you have the stock recovery and stock ROM. Meaning you can have your warranty back if you stay on the stock ROM.
I need to send in my s3 for repair and it's still under warranty. However, it was rooted but I unrooted it and I reset the flash counter. In download mode, it says "Qualcomm secureboot: enabled". Is this normal of a typical unrooted s3 phone? WIll samsung know that I rooted my phone (and void my warranty) if I send it in like this?
Sorry if this is a stupid question (I'm still a noob at this kind of stuff).
Thanks
pookani said:
I need to send in my s3 for repair and it's still under warranty. However, it was rooted but I unrooted it and I reset the flash counter. In download mode, it says "Qualcomm secureboot: enabled". Is this normal of a typical unrooted s3 phone? WIll samsung know that I rooted my phone (and void my warranty) if I send it in like this?
Sorry if this is a stupid question (I'm still a noob at this kind of stuff).
Thanks
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You should be fine if you used triangle away and flashed back to stock using Odin.
BWolf56 said:
You should be fine if you used triangle away and flashed back to stock using Odin.
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Just out of curiosity then why would that message be displayed? If it normally isn't there, then samsung will automatically think I modified the phone in some way wouldn't they?
pookani said:
Just out of curiosity then why would that message be displayed? If it normally isn't there, then samsung will automatically think I modified the phone in some way wouldn't they?
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Did they service your phone? I'm about to send mine tomorrow and I'm really hoping you're online so I know whether or not to send my phone out, I have the exact same situation!
Bosssauced said:
Did they service your phone? I'm about to send mine tomorrow and I'm really hoping you're online so I know whether or not to send my phone out, I have the exact same situation!
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If you don't have in you recovery mode Warranty Bit 1 or Knox Warranty Void 0x1 no problem, just use Triangle Away and reset flash counter and then wipe factory reset and wipe cache data and that's all.
santij07 said:
If you don't have in you recovery mode Warranty Bit 1 or Knox Warranty Void 0x1 no problem, just us Triangle Away and reset flash counter and then wipe factory reset and wipe cache data and that's all.
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Damnit, I have Warranty Bit 1, what would happen then?
If the repair centre sees that the warranty is 1, they may fix it, call you with an estimate, or just send it back to you without making any changes or repairs.
We do not do fraudulent methods here...offer legitimate suggestions to re-mediate the problem or get out of here...do not need fraud here..
Is anyone working currently working on a solution to this catastrophe? I'm one of the unfortunate individuals that happened to acquire an S4 with this build preinstalled. Needless to say, I'm pissed.I'm curious as to if it's even possible to bypass Knox. I'd love to liberate my Galaxy from Touch Wiz and install a the official GE ROM.
I'm more interested in the updated LTE modem that seems to be tied into the 4.3 knoxed up bootloader since I'm still on 4.2.2.
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Is anyone working currently working on a solution to this catastrophe? I'm one of the unfortunate individuals that happened to acquire an S4 with this build preinstalled. Needless to say, I'm pissed.I'm curious as to if it's even possible to bypass Knox. I'd love to liberate my Galaxy from Touch Wiz and install a the official GE ROM.
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there is nothing to solve. you may install CWM/custom ROM as normal.
dcd1182 said:
there is nothing to solve. you may install CWM/custom ROM as normal.
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If you care about your warranty this may trip a counter "KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0X1" or something like that. But anyway, the part about voiding you warranty is a theory. In some cases I've read where a device was repaired in store with a simple re-flash of stock firmware, resetting the counter. Other cases have reported sending them in to either be fixed for free or sent a bill for tripping the counter. So the choice is your, just be informed of the concequences before you make your decision. This phone is damn near $700.
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If you care about your warranty this may trip a counter "KNOX WARRANTY VOID 0X1" or something like that. But anyway, the part about voiding you warranty is a theory. In some cases I've read where a device was repaired in store with a simple re-flash of stock firmware, resetting the counter. Other cases have reported sending them in to either be fixed for free or sent a bill for tripping the counter. So the choice is your, just be informed of the concequences before you make your decision. This phone is damn near $700.
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Exactly. I don't know about anyone else, but I'd prefer to keep my warranty intact as well as the resell value. By the time I'm ready to sell it, I'm sure people will start caring about having the manufacturer's warranty still intact.
dcd1182 said:
there is nothing to solve. you may install CWM/custom ROM as normal.
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The latest build prevents users from gaining root access.
What build ? CM?
My S4 Is Insane
DEVIANT DEVELOPMENT MEMBER
aka_word said:
The latest build prevents users from gaining root access.
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I was able to run CF-Autoroot after taking the update via Kies. I haven't installed Knox but I am on the MK2 bootloader. I don't believe it prevents root access...
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The latest build prevents users from gaining root access.
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totally irrelevant.
re: gaining root
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The latest build prevents users from gaining root access.
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I just wonder where you read that rumor. LOL
You must be google'ing way too much!
Misterjunky said:
I just wonder where you read that rumor. LOL
You must be google'ing way too much!
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This is drawn from my own experience.
So, I was on CarbonKitkat rom by @F4k and I wanted to return on original samsung firmware.
I flashed that with odin:
I9195XXUAMF6_I9195VFGAMF2_I9195XXUAMF6_HOME.tar.md5
but won't boot, so I reflashed it and got an error:
image size too large!! W:1000, H:1920
display image fail
SECURE FAIL: KERNEL
So, now in download mode I saw that Knox Warranty Void flag was 0xfffffffc (or similar, i have not counted how many 'f' were there)
I searched on google and founded that i get that error on boot because I did a downgrade, so I can get all functional by flashing a newer firmware, so I flashed:
I9195XXUBNA2_I9195VFGBNA4_I9195XXUBNA2_HOME.tar.md5
And I got:
Phone boot.
Working wifi.
Knox warranty void 0x1 on Download Mode, but not yellow string on boot, What does mean?!
0x1 means you triggered knox.
0x0 means you didnt trigged knox
0xFFFFFFF probably means possible downgraded device/ not acceptable value.
so in the end nothing is changed.
96DANGER96 said:
So, I was on CarbonKitkat rom by @F4k and I wanted to return on original samsung firmware.
I flashed that with odin:
I9195XXUAMF6_I9195VFGAMF2_I9195XXUAMF6_HOME.tar.md5
but won't boot, so I reflashed it and got an error:
image size too large!! W:1000, H:1920
display image fail
SECURE FAIL: KERNEL
So, now in download mode I saw that Knox Warranty Void flag was 0xfffffffc (or similar, i have not counted how many 'f' were there)
I searched on google and founded that i get that error on boot because I did a downgrade, so I can get all functional by flashing a newer firmware, so I flashed:
I9195XXUBNA2_I9195VFGBNA4_I9195XXUBNA2_HOME.tar.md5
And I got:
Phone boot.
Working wifi.
Knox warranty void 0x1 on Download Mode, but not yellow string on boot, What does mean?!
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come on !!!! knox will never be back to 0x0 when its triggered ..i have tripped it I DONT CARE !!!
Levent2101 said:
0x1 means you triggered knox.
0x0 means you didnt trigged knox
0xFFFFFFF probably means possible downgraded device/ not acceptable value.
so in the end nothing is changed.
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Thanks man.
But why the yellow string on boot doesn't appear now?
96DANGER96 said:
Thanks man.
But why the yellow string on boot doesn't appear now?
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The yellow string appears on 2 situations
-booting with custom kernel
-booting with custom recovery
-downgraded and failed
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rrgrrg said:
The yellow string appears on 2 situations
-booting with custom kernel
-booting with custom recovery
-downgraded and failed
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How can i remove that yellow string to not apear on boot?
My configuration is:
AP: BNB3
CSC:BNA2
RF: 2014.04.14
HW: MP0.800
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I'm rooted and custom kernel from @arco68 thread: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2364980
rrgrrg said:
come on !!!! knox will never be back to 0x0 when its triggered ..i have tripped it I DONT CARE !!!
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sorry if it seems a dumb question but why everyone thinks that knox will never be reversible
Scorpiopt said:
sorry if it seems a dumb question but why everyone thinks that knox will never be reversible
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Do you have some info's and you want to share? Do it!
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Do you have some info's and you want to share? Do it!
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I don't i am just asking , because everyone one talks about knox has impossible to reverse
Scorpiopt said:
I don't i am just asking , because everyone one talks about knox has impossible to reverse
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There's a difference between practical and theoretical impossibilities. Theoretically speaking, you're right. There might be a way to restore KNOX, but we just haven't figured it out yet.
Practically speaking, there's no way to do it yet and it doesn't seem likely there'll be a way to do it any time soon (*). Therefore, it's practically impossible.
(*) It's unlikely there'll be a way to do it for two reasons: it's difficult and there's barely anything to gain from it.
Scorpiopt said:
I don't i am just asking , because everyone one talks about knox has impossible to reverse
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It's supposed to be a physical efuse in the chip once tripped can't be fixed
fburgos said:
It's supposed to be a physical efuse in the chip once tripped can't be fixed
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No .... u r deadly wrong ..some guyd in the s4/s3 got their hands on a knox-resetting bootloader from samsung ...leaked ....and when u flash it it restores the knox state or remove it altogether i dont remeber
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rrgrrg said:
No .... u r deadly wrong ..some guyd in the s4/s3 got their hands on a knox-resetting bootloader from samsung ...leaked ....and when u flash it it restores the knox state or remove it altogether i dont remeber
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do you have the link, i think someone in the s4 said that he's knox was restored at service center but he didn't have any proof.
Until a tool its releases for public for me it's still a phisical efuse that can't be fixed
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fburgos said:
do you have the link, i think someone in the s4 said that he's knox was restored at service center but he didn't have any proof.
Until a tool its releases for public for me it's still a phisical efuse that can't be fixed
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its not a physical efuse man ... im sure 100% ,... they have a sort of leaked bootloader and when u flash it it resets/removes the counter
...search it i dont remember what was the sammy phone ...also our s4 mini came with 4.1.2 before knox was released so if even this is an efuse we dont have the hardware thingie right !! :cyclops:
rrgrrg said:
its not a physical efuse man ... im sure 100% ,... they have a sort of leaked bootloader and when u flash it it resets/removes the counter
...search it i dont remember what was the sammy phone ...also our s4 mini came with 4.1.2 before knox was released so if even this is an efuse we dont have the hardware thingie right !! :cyclops:
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Afaik the efuse, qfuse is present on all snapdragon devices and every manufacturer is free to use them in any way, Samsung decided to use in the knox security, motorola use them to lock the bootloader
The exynos devices could be reseted with a bootloader i think they don't have efuses
A modified bootloader might "mask" the knox void flag but that would break the booting and from this point i need to read and update my knowledge on the topic that is really "old" let's say from January
To be clear snapdragon 400 has efuses qualcomm put those in the chip Samsung is using them with knox and for bootloader increments that's why we can't go back to an old bootloader
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