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Hey guys,
Firstly, Thanks for taking the time to look at this post.
I bought a Desire HD last month and have been reading about how the battery adapts to your usage and eventually improves within two to three weeks. This hasnt been the case for me unfortunately. I take my phone off the charger exactly at 12 30pm before going to work and by the time I leave work around 9pm, my battery is usually sitting around the 40 - 45% mark with literally two to three minutes of usage throughout my shift! I tried JuiceDefender but didnt help at all. Also, I uninstalled all the apps I installed when I first got the phone just to check if that made a difference - it did not.
Now I'm no expert at this but from what I could make out from other threads, flashing my rom sounds like a promising option.
My question to the experts is, I have only had this phone for a month, I know it will void my warranty if I flash the rom but do I really need the warranty? I mean I never used any warranty before on any of my phones and since this is such a promising phone, I highly doubt it that something could go wrong (ofcourse with the exception of human error like dropping or losing the phone etc.) If I plan on flashing, which rom would you recommend to a rookie with almost no knowledge about flashing and roms etc but very eager to learn? Any tips, advice, anything at all would be really appreciated.
Thanks in advance to anyone thats going to contribute!
Hello,
First I am no expert . I have rooted and flashed just recently but I have learned a few things or two by hanging around excessively on the forum .
In my opinion battery life does improve ,Before rooting n flashing my overnight battery drain on standby mode was abt 9-10% n Now its abt 2-3%.
I started off with CM7 , though it is a very good ROM you won't get battery fix which you are looking for..still you should give it a try..may be it will work for you..
I tried 3-4 More ROMS before settling on MIUI..I keep coming back to it coz the battery life on it just amazing!!!...I get 20 hours+ on moderate usage..
Also radio for a ROM matters a lot...your battery life depends hugely on it...I tried about 6 different radios tll I found the correct one..
Also If you like Sense too much then you can try LeeDroid n RcMixHD both are very good Roms...though RcMicHD is better acc. to me..
So I think you should try these 3-4 Roms n see which suits you best.Hope I helped
Hi, I wholeheartedly agree with aradhyat.
MIUI IMO has all the benefits of Android & Cyanogen + Excellent UI Design.
Your warranty is safe. jkoljo contacted HTC and confirmed that software modifications do not void the warranty. Your carrier/network maybe a bit funny though.
Thanks heaps guys for such quick responses!
If flashing the rom doesnt void warranty, thats just superb. So I will give the mentioned rom a go and see how it works for me. Any tips for a guy who has never flashed a rom or anything like it? I'm pretty good with computers but just havent had any experience on this side.
Also, one question that was unanswered, is this normal for a battery to act this way on a stock rom? I mean the way its acting up for me, drains almost 60% while just sitting in my pocket or on my desk. Did any one of you also experience such a sucky battery life before flashing your roms?
No, your battery should not drain that fast under those conditions. It could be simply a misconfigured app that's hogging your juice.
What firmware are you currently using?
Andriod Version:
2.2
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Kernel Version:
2.6.32.21-g66cfb7a
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Build Number:
1.32.861.5 CL277010 release-keys
Software Number:
1.32.861.5
Browser Version:
WebKit 3.1
well, no, not really, its not normal for the battery to act like that with Stock ROM.
I think it depends on your initial first battery charge time.
::The following story is copyrighted!::
me and my 3 brothers all got the Desire HD.
my first brother charged for approx 20hrs at the first time with the phone being closed, and his battery is fine.
my 2nd brother charged till the battery got full with the phone on, and his battery finishes in half a day without alot of usage.
They both warned me, 1st brother told me to charge for 20hrs, second told me to charge for 24hrs, i charged inbetween (22hrs), and my battery is good!
(but true story)
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my overnight battery drainage is 3%. once i didnt use it for a whole day, and it was still in its 90's.
I think it depends on how you intially charge your phone, it matters greatly (HTC recommends 8hrs charge at first)
Great, your firmware is Ok for rooting directly.
Follow this thread -- > HERE
Then this one --> HERE
There is some overlap, i.e Visionary so no need to perform that twice.
Once done. Install ROM Manager from the market, and flash Recovery from there.
Use 3.x.x.x for Gingerbread based ROMs
Or 2.x.x.x for FroYo based ROMs.
Now you are ready to flash some ROMs!
I turned it on the second I unboxed it (being the impatient pr**k I am). Does that mean I need a new battery? Or is there a remedy?
If you are experiencing such huge battery drain, I think you should get it checked b'coz Even when on stock I never had that much problem.t
Lol..I did the same but did you let it discharge it completely before charging it again or charged it right away after playing with it a little ..
coz I switched mine on as soon as i bought it but let it drain before charging for about 10-12 hours for the first time...
Yea, need new battery.
(try charging battery for a long time, i dont know if it'll help, but it wont hurt to try - IF that doesnt work, then i strongly recommend a new battery)
I was going mad waiting 22hrs!!!, but that meant wayy better battery power!
Search google or something on how to use the battery properly. i've had many issues in the past with batteries, but after reading articles, my batteries last longer now
Not sure if I remember what I did after playing with it, the excitement was so great I forgot about anything and everything else that mattered at that time
Sweet, thanks heaps for your help guys. Will be calling HTC and my service provider today just to double check with them too and afterwards flashing. I'm thinking of going for RcMixHD as alot of people have only good things to say about that rom. Any thoughts or ideas?
Turns out I had 28 days from date of purchase to get it swapped on the spot if there were any issues with the handset. Today was the 28th day, how fortunate!
Anyway, had it replaced and its on charge now, wont be turning it on any time soon though
just some advice
hey just a few words of advice from someone that has done a lot of flashing on numerous phones with numerous software types.
i reccomend getting a few little apps;
1. Titanium Backup (for safety i only back up apps I install + data)
2. SMS Backup and Restore (specifically for backing up sms/mms and works across different roms and even handsets)
3. Faster Fix (just in case if your phone doesnt set gps pool correctly causing a delay in time for fix
and just generally its pretty straight forward how to flash different roms especially after you do it a few times. but i do reccoment patience and time, and you will be fine and if anything happens just ask, everyone ehre is happy to help
Regards
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DHDRookie said:
Turns out I had 28 days from date of purchase to get it swapped on the spot if there were any issues with the handset. Today was the 28th day, how fortunate!
Anyway, had it replaced and its on charge now, wont be turning it on any time soon though
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Hahaha, lucky u! And good luck with ur new battery
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Started charging at 5pm yesterday and now its 1 30pm, think I'll take a nap before I get down to some serious flashing business. Thanks heaps for your help guys, some day I'll pay back in the form of experience and maybe add something to this community.
I have been reading everyday since the day it came out... the same day I bought it.
Hope you all don't mind but I have quite a few questions/frustrations
1st, Battery life is killing me... cannot make it through a day, I have put my screen on auto which seems a lot dimmer than set to 40 or 60%. All I do is play some solitaire, check mail a lot, a little bit of net, maybe 30 minutes of calls (tops) a few txt msgs, with maybe 2 hours or slightly more of screen time.
External speaker is embarrassing... tried showing a video to a friend with an iphone and felt like flushing the damn phone after he did the same.
Data connectivity is still hit and miss... one minute I have 4 bars of 4G and the next I have none.
I am on (details in sig) 4.0.4 (Craig Gomez version) with the newest radios. The device is a serious work tool for me so I really don't have the time to try different ROMS or kernels all the time... I need it always ready for calls, emails and occasional RDP or Logmein sessions .
For those of you have actually tried many/experienced in the world of various ROMs & kernels... do you have a suggestion of what to do with my setup?
Between the battery and data connectivity I feel the phone is close to crap... my friends with Razors have none of these problems and I feel like I am ready to snap.
BTW... if you could be even more kind... if you have a suggestion on what to run, could you suggest a brief set of instructions... i.e. nandriod, full wipe, install this first that second...
Thanks for any and all help... I sure would like to come up with or remember a reason why I have this and not a razor max.
Do you have the latest radios? That will make a difference. I do know the speaker is weak. There's not much to do but for a volume hack, some roms have it enabled.
Id ask for a replacement phone if battery is that bad and you can't get a decent signal anywhere but other phones can. Sounds like a defective phone.
I've been using Android Revolution for about 2 weeks, and as for today, I don't think there's anything as good as it. It's just like stock, just a little bit faster. I have great battery life, 5 to 6 Hours of screen on time, AutoBrightness, sync on, wifi always on, etc, it's pretty good, you should give it a try.
I've also used AOKP (with FrancoKernel and with stock kernel), and even tho I liked all extra features, in my experience, with screen off, it drains battery a looot faster that stock/ARHD.
I used an app called equalizer to fix the speaker
veloslave said:
I have been reading everyday since the day it came out... the same day I bought it.
Hope you all don't mind but I have quite a few questions/frustrations
1st, Battery life is killing me... cannot make it through a day, I have put my screen on auto which seems a lot dimmer than set to 40 or 60%. All I do is play some solitaire, check mail a lot, a little bit of net, maybe 30 minutes of calls (tops) a few txt msgs, with maybe 2 hours or slightly more of screen time.
External speaker is embarrassing... tried showing a video to a friend with an iphone and felt like flushing the damn phone after he did the same.
Data connectivity is still hit and miss... one minute I have 4 bars of 4G and the next I have none.
I am on (details in sig) 4.0.4 (Craig Gomez version) with the newest radios. The device is a serious work tool for me so I really don't have the time to try different ROMS or kernels all the time... I need it always ready for calls, emails and occasional RDP or Logmein sessions .
For those of you have actually tried many/experienced in the world of various ROMs & kernels... do you have a suggestion of what to do with my setup?
Between the battery and data connectivity I feel the phone is close to crap... my friends with Razors have none of these problems and I feel like I am ready to snap.
BTW... if you could be even more kind... if you have a suggestion on what to run, could you suggest a brief set of instructions... i.e. nandriod, full wipe, install this first that second...
Thanks for any and all help... I sure would like to come up with or remember a reason why I have this and not a razor max.
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Autobrightness will kill your battery more than a static 40 or 60%.
2 hours of screen on time seems normal for the Verizon Nexus.
Try the volume + app for your speaker problems.
There are some kernels that have sound boosts built in.
Signal drops means you should exchange the phone. Use the insurance.
Honestly if you hate the phone as much as it sounds, just get a different phone.
joshnichols189 said:
Autobrightness will kill your battery more than a static 40 or 60%.
2 hours of screen on time seems normal for the Verizon Nexus.
Try the volume + app for your speaker problems.
There are some kernels that have sound boosts built in.
Signal drops means you should exchange the phone. Use the insurance.
Honestly if you hate the phone as much as it sounds, just get a different phone.
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Perfect response.
Don't get me wrong... I in no way "hate" phone, if I did I would have gotten rid of it.
I'm frustrated not stupid.
I am amazed that Verizon hasn't done something about it... most of the buyers of this phone are not IT savvy rooters... my phone works a lot better than stock, I cannot imagine how frustrated someone on 4.0.2 would be.
Anyway... I am going to take it back to stock and return it... guess I will try it (the new one) out stock but I know I will want it rooted. Guess I'll try some of the suggested software\ROMS.
I wonder what a stock one is coming with these days?
veloslave said:
Don't get me wrong... I in no way "hate" phone, if I did I would have gotten rid of it.
I'm frustrated not stupid.
I am amazed that Verizon hasn't done something about it... most of the buyers of this phone are not IT savvy rooters... my phone works a lot better than stock, I cannot imagine how frustrated someone on 4.0.2 would be.
Anyway... I am going to take it back to stock and return it... guess I will try it (the new one) out stock but I know I will want it rooted. Guess I'll try some of the suggested software\ROMS.
I wonder what a stock one is coming with these days?
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I never called you stupid.
Stock phones will 99% come with 4.0.2 but like I said, they don't all have the problems you have.. except low speaker volume.
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joshnichols189 said:
I never called you stupid.
Stock phones will 99% come with 4.0.2 but like I said, they don't all have the problems you have.. except low speaker volume.
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
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Anyone that would keep a phone they hate would have to be stupid
Well... things just changed again.
Just talked with Verizon and he asked if I installed the update pushed out on the 25th? I told him I will give it a shot and get back to them.
Anyone got instructions for reverting back to stock?
veloslave said:
Anyone that would keep a phone they hate would have to be stupid
Well... things just changed again.
Just talked with Verizon and he asked if I installed the update pushed out on the 25th? I told him I will give it a shot and get back to them.
Anyone got instructions for reverting back to stock?
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Check the stickies in the dev forum
Sent from my Galaxy Nexus using xda premium
http://imgur.com/a/7zLjf#9
I just want to make sure that this battery life looks reasonable. A good portion of these images were taken yesterday, and I wasn't really messing with my device all that much, as I was doing a lot of work.
Thanks for your help, I will try to get some better detailed descriptions per image next time I am almost down to no battery.
Nope. It doesnt really. Gtalk is keeping your phone awake a lot.
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http://imgur.com/a/7zLjf#9
I just want to make sure that this battery life looks reasonable. A good portion of these images were taken yesterday, and I wasn't really messing with my device all that much, as I was doing a lot of work.
Thanks for your help, I will try to get some better detailed descriptions per image next time I am almost down to no battery.
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I don't necessarily agree with the Gtalk issue but I do notice two problems.
First of all, you only had signal 60% of the time (?) and you are using Facebook. I would disable the facebook app or remove it since it's notorious for causing severe battery drain (at least for now). If you're in a low signal environment, you won't be able to really judge battery life very well since the phone is expending a lot of energy trying to maintain or look for a signal.
I read somewhere that gtalk eats up a lot of battery? aint it so?
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I read somewhere that gtalk eats up a lot of battery? aint it so?
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Its possible. I can't tell from the logs he posted if it was causing problems. Its one of the apps that I freeze or delete cuz I don't plan to ever use it.
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Unfortunately, Facebook is a must, all of the notification settings and geo-location stuff is disabled. I gotta be addicted to something right? I have contemplated deleting my account, so when that happens the app will be removed.
Gtalk is now frozen.
Low signal, I can't really help, I work in a brick building.
That isn't very good battery life it also depends on how much you were using it.
Bump added pictures for the past two days worth of battery stats.
I tried having Google Talk disabled for two days, didn't seem to decrease the awake counts.
So I tried uninstalling it, still doesn't seem to have helped at all.
Today, I may have used the phone for an hour and a half maybe. Beyond that, I haven't really used it.
Hello
I have a AT&T Note2 that I got late November. Battery Performance was fabulous. I just recently got the update to 4.1.2 OTA and there was some sort of upgrade or maintenance just prior to the 4.1.2 update.
I immediately noticed a difference in battery performance. It was substantially less than what I had on 4.1.1. I cant get any straight answers from Samsung or AT&T, there is no comprehensive log for the update so its hard to figure out whats going on.
Same software load as on 4.1.1. I did notice that after the update to 4.1.2 there were substantially more items in manage apps> running than what was in 4.1.1.
Samsung claims the root cause is the update to the OS and a change to the wifi radio and software.
Does anyone know what really is going on. At&T is a lost cause and no help whatsoever.
Thank you
I will be interested what you find out as I am experienceing the same issue. I went from 95% to 65% overnight doing nothing (WiFi on). Earlier today I was losing about 2-3% battery every 15 minutes doing nothing and did some research. All I could find out was to turn off all location services and since I don't get Wifi at work, turn off WiFi while here. This helped some, but still would like to find out what is going on. My iphone was a battery hog in the end of its life and my new GN2 lasts barely as long as my 2 year old iphone did. Not a happy camper right now.
skon1212 said:
I will be interested what you find out as I am experienceing the same issue. I went from 95% to 65% overnight doing nothing (WiFi on). Earlier today I was losing about 2-3% battery every 15 minutes doing nothing and did some research. All I could find out was to turn off all location services and since I don't get Wifi at work, turn off WiFi while here. This helped some, but still would like to find out what is going on. My iphone was a battery hog in the end of its life and my new GN2 lasts barely as long as my 2 year old iphone did. Not a happy camper right now.
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Hi, I'm hopeful one of the Senior Members or Mod's will run down a answer as well as a comprehensive change add-delete and enhancement log regarding the 4.1.2 update. All I can say is I have not added anything my daily use is the same..no games. I disabled all the att bloat wae other than hot spots. I sort of paid attention to my running apps in 4.1.1, and now in 4.1.2 there are many more things theree that wernt prior to this update. I didnt have to disable anything prior to this update.
The answer is not in disabling bloat apps. The answer is in the log that shows what was done with the update.
I hope someone can get that because it holds the key to the answers we are looking for.
Who knows maybe one of the developers will read this thread and be able to help.
try a battery pull and obviously reboot. Download the Gsam battery monitor from the market. I think it is free. It dumbs down a lot of stuff and pretty much tells you what is taking up your battery. It does a much better job than the stock battery checker. After an hour or so, the longer the better, it will show you some apps or processes that are the culprit.
Battery stats app is a paid app in the market but I think it is free on this xda site somewhere for members. That appears to be a very comprehensive battery monitoring apps with wakelocks and it gets very complicated for a novice such as myself.
can you provide additional details on your situation, for example:
what's your baseline comparison, e.g., before: 18 hrs use with 4 hours screen time, after 13 hours use 4 hours screen time
are you rooted (i suspect not)?
have you gone into Settings->Battery to see which apps, etc., are using your battery?
do you have a lot of music, pictures, etc on your phone?
not an answer to your question, but... have you considered performing a hard reset on your device and then testing battery life with at clean slate?
looking at your battery stats is a better indicator of what could be causing poor battery life. i'm on the same release as you and my battery life has been the same if not better. also download better battery stats to see if you have wake-lock issues. i'm averaging 16-20 hours per charge with 6-9 hours screen time, about 150 emails daily and 35-90 minutes in phone calls.
So yesterday at 19 hours of use (maybe 2 hours total of emails, web surfing, and using a couple apps, music for an hour at the gym) I still had 32% left. Not bad. However, my wifi was off all day, even at home, and I kept my location services turned off. So tomorrow I am going to test it with Wifi on at home and my location services and see what happens. The Gsam battery app i used yesterday was pretty cool although at first I wasn't sure because it said that the app was using 15%. But as the day progressed it never went over 4%. Still new to the android platform, but learning.
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So yesterday at 19 hours of use (maybe 2 hours total of emails, web surfing, and using a couple apps, music for an hour at the gym) I still had 32% left. Not bad. However, my wifi was off all day, even at home, and I kept my location services turned off. So tomorrow I am going to test it with Wifi on at home and my location services and see what happens. The Gsam battery app i used yesterday was pretty cool although at first I wasn't sure because it said that the app was using 15%. But as the day progressed it never went over 4%. Still new to the android platform, but learning.
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I APPRECIATE the response however I would like to know what was done with the 4.1.2 upgrade, what changed, enhanced or whatever as well as the AT&T maint just prior to the 4.1.2 upgrade. Nothing was disabled, I was runn8ng the same exact software load, same apps, no games, and wifi wS constantly on. While disabling bloatware, shutting down this and that, turning off wifi at this point is helpful, its not a acceptable answer as to what happened.
This forum has some of the most respected developers and computer genius's around. Whenever you ask for something and everyone else comes up empty, the first thing you hear is go to XDA.
My Galaxy Note2 had the most incredible battery time of any device I've ever owned prior to the updates. Im also pissed because I didnt even know that the red and grey arrows and the connecting to dnr server was AT&T doing a update. There was no forewarning.
The Note2 is still fabulous to me, I just want to understand what has happened and why. I am not asking for a say in what they did, certainly this is my phone, I believe that I should be entitled at least to know what transpired.
There should be no problem producing a comprehensive change log with a lay person level explanation.
I was getting 2 days off charger with 8 hours of screen time and suddenly the battery doesn't seem to charge past 50% and I didn't do a single thing to it but tonight I am cleaning everything out and starting fresh because something odd is going on
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JohnCorleone said:
I was getting 2 days off charger with 8 hours of screen time and suddenly the battery doesn't seem to charge past 50% and I didn't do a single thing to it but tonight I am cleaning everything out and starting fresh because something odd is going on
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JOHN
I think the key to many answers is 2 items.....a log and explanation of what occurred in simple terms regarding the 2 updates. There was a no warning automatic att update done just prior to and then the actual 4.1.2 update itself. My gut opinion is something was changed with wifi and how its handled along with some other software changes.
I feel like. Dog chasing my own tail...disable this, disable that...bull...nothing was disabled and wifi was always on prior the updates.
Hello everyone. As of the past 2 days my note 2 has been super laggy with crap battery.. It is stock rooted and it has been doing it since I downloaded an app to speed up and slow down my cpu (not to overclock or underclock) but I messed around with a few settings and didn't see any performance enhancements so I uninstalled it. I was thinking maybe it left it on the setting I put it on when I deleted it off my phone but theres no way cause its neither fast nor saving battery. I have gone through all my accounts that sync ie: face book and google and unsynced them. Wifi is on for not even 1/3rd of the day and gps is off. My screen brightness is all the way up, but even a month ago I was going all day with 30% left at 9pm (taking off charger @ 7am). Now im taking it off at 7am and battery % is @ like 45% by 10am. Help me please. I could fully reset phone and have a back up (nandroid I think it is?) but id rather not have to seeming how I don't have a nandroid. I do have titanium backup tho. Memory is about half full on both sd and internal btw. Ive been switching through setting for 2 days now trying to fix but I cannot so im turning to the brains of smart phones....YOU GUYS! Please help. Thanks
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Btw I read an article the other day about the newer note 2's(the first ones that came out) and it read that a lot of them shipped with bad chips and that there was an app to download that would run your cpu and memory all the way up to encourage the chip to malfunction to see if it was messed up. I DID NOT download this app, only read about it. I purchased my baby about 3-4 months after it came to market. just adding a bit of info incase this helps someone diagnose this problem. Any one else experiencing this?
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if I flash a fresh rom what all would I loose? Anything? its weird that once I installed that cpu control that it started acting up then after I uninstalled it. I didn't even reboot when I changed the setting in the app so I don't think it should have even been applied. if all else fails I have insurance ill unroot and take into sprint to service. Ima give it a day or two and keeping fooling with settings. Maybe wipe everything then restore from titanium. Thank you.
I also failed to mention that the laggyness is on and off. I can awake screen and it take me 30 seconds to get to my text message inbox. Other times itl zip right to it. it just does it at randem times. Its killing me knowing that it might be trashed and if it is I do regret rooting my phone cause this is all too coincidental its doing this 2 weeks after root.
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Ok I will. One more question if I go to setting>factory data reset and reset it while rooted what will it do? Will it just send me back to unrooted stock or do I have to unroot and then do a factory reset? I've also heard (sprint told me) that every couple of months you must take the battery out of your phone to let it "rest". Now I've taken my battery out, I think, never cause Ive had it wrapped up in the Defender Otterbox and im sure as everyone knows its quite a ***** to get off. I know that would not fix lagyness, but maybe battery life...?
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As of right now I took my battery out and let it rest for 5min and it seems to have done the trick guys. Thanks for the responses.
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