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What's wrong with my Vogue?

I know this kinda cliche. But please help me out.
I got a second (third or fourth maybe more) hand Vogue. The previous owner said that the battery should last about 3 days. But I've been recharging it 3 times a day (for a 24hours standby).
Please note: My backlight is on level 1 (the darkest) most of the times. No Bluetooth or GPS at all. Only light phonecalls and sms.
I've done all the tweaking and stuffs. Activesync only when connected to PC. Battery settings to save. I got a new battery. Nothing work. It barely last for 12hours (with the new battery). On a power off (not stand by)... it goes down 30% over a night. I don't know what's draining my battery.
I'm suspicious that the OS is not original from the sprint. I don't know is it cooked or not. But it still WinMo 6.1.
Please help me... Let me know if u need infos.
This is what it says on my Booting Screen:
M 03
B 01
P DCAAXOM-4350H
R. 3.42.30
D 3.09

Do you know what programs you are running?

If you are talking about the task manager, it's empty.
However, I did try to hard reset it and I have this theme (thundering sound on boot, wallpaper of lightning strike tree) and a few programs (TCPMP, Total Commander) still in my HTC. I have no idea if there are more differences. Oh, I didn't have the HTC Cube. Have the FTouch Flo but not the Cube. I did install it later on.
Please help me. I have no idea whats draining the battery... I'll appreciate whatever help I can get.

If you're suspicious that your ROM isn't authentic from Sprint, and your battery is draining quickly, I'd say it's time to ditch that ROM as it's suspect.
(As per the norm, back up your data first.)
You can download the latest ROM for your device from HTC's site. Hit them up, grab the latest ROM, and flash your phone. Once finished, let it set up / customize, and let it charge fully. Also, make sure you connect to the internet and browse for a bit using Sprint's ROM, to set up the Carrier's Data Provisioning. Also, test out some GPS functionality.
This is the bone-stock Sprint ROM, so if you want to test battery life, this is the place to do so.
If this resolves things, I would highly recommend visiting NFSFAN's 6.1/6.5 thread, and downloading (as of right now) 6.5 v7. It's easily one of the best ROMs available for any phone, period.

It seem that I have been evading the inevitable...
Thanks for the tips. I'll need to find a way to flash it safely as possible.
Thanks a lot

anyone kind enough to direct me to the latest ROM on HTC site? They keep directing me to the South East Asia site... and the don't release Vogue there. Or is it possible to throw away the the custom ROM without reinstalling the whole thing?
This is what it says on my Booting Screen:
M 03
B 01
P DCAAXOM-4350H
R. 3.42.30
D 3.09

you can get the original Sprint update here http://www.htc.com/us/SupportDownloadList.aspx?p_id=76&act=sd&cat=all

Thanks for the link. But I think I will try the NFSFAN ROM coz I don't live in the USA.
I'm still blank about how to flash it though. Anyone?

mrayearth said:
Thanks for the link. But I think I will try the NFSFAN ROM coz I don't live in the USA.
I'm still blank about how to flash it though. Anyone?
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regardless of where you live I would suggest flashing a stock ROM first just to make sure its at a step one state, stable and normal before flashing a custom ROM
But ... if your thinking of flashing to NFSFANs ROM - go HERE and read up on the FAQ for it as well as a "how to" as to flashing a custom ROM
Detroit Doug

Thanks for all the advice. I flashed my phone with NFSFan and let it stand idle for about 6 hours (no tweaking yet) and the battery still goes down about 50%. Thats the same as it was... Well I'm trying the tweaking anyway. Is it defective?

mrayearth said:
Thanks for all the advice. I flashed my phone with NFSFan and let it stand idle for about 6 hours (no tweaking yet) and the battery still goes down about 50%. Thats the same as it was... Well I'm trying the tweaking anyway. Is it defective?
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it's prolly just time for a new battery.
one other thought, if you open the batter cover,
on the battery it should say a number and then "mAh"
For example I have 700mAh
which is like the smallest battery, and you're suppose to get like a 900mAh from the factory, but I got ripped off from the phone store.
But basically the higher the mAh the bigger and longer the batter will last.

The battery says 1100mAh the same one with the original. It lasted longer than the one I got before. But isn't it suppose to last about 3 days? Dang! I'm afarid to use anything because of the battery. I'll try to exchange my latest battery with the new one and hope for a longer life.
Btw, done more tweaking and still the same.

-double post-

mrayearth said:
The battery says 1100mAh the same one with the original. It lasted longer than the one I got before. But isn't it suppose to last about 3 days? ....
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On average, I get about 17 hours (mostly in "standby") from the 1100mah battery. Lately, the battery has been going dead sooner...
I purchased a 2400mah battery and back cover for about $15US a while back. I went back to the factory battery for a while, but kept the larger battery in my backpack. After not using it for a couple of months I pulled it out last night (when the 1100 battery was about to die) and it still had a full charge! Going to use it again for a while...

US$15 for a 2400mAh battery with a back door? can u direct me to the website?

mrayearth said:
Thanks for all the advice. I flashed my phone with NFSFan and let it stand idle for about 6 hours (no tweaking yet) and the battery still goes down about 50%. Thats the same as it was... Well I'm trying the tweaking anyway. Is it defective?
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One more thing,
How do you recharge your phone?
Many people, NFSFAN himself included have noted that charging through USB from your computer takes longer, but holds the charge quite longer as well.
Give that a shot if you've been doing the wall charge thing.

mrayearth said:
US$15 for a 2400mAh battery with a back door? can u direct me to the website?
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Im def interested in that deal as well
Currently I charge via a cradle powered off the wall and connected to the PC via usb into the cradle it has a extra battery charge slot as well so the phone and an extra battery charges at the same time from an amazon dealer
Works great but 2400 Mah for 15$ ?? Im on that like ugly on Rosie LOL
Detroit Doug

jmitr said:
One more thing,
How do you recharge your phone?
Many people, NFSFAN himself included have noted that charging through USB from your computer takes longer, but holds the charge quite longer as well.
Give that a shot if you've been doing the wall charge thing.
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thanks for the tips... gonna try it. Btw, I heard a guy named nue2chem (cmiiw) made a program that can charge the battery with USB port from PC faster. Ever try it?

mrayearth said:
thanks for the tips... gonna try it. Btw, I heard a guy named nue2chem (cmiiw) made a program that can charge the battery with USB port from PC faster. Ever try it?
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It's only for the TouchPro.

i installed nue2chem's dynamic clock and sett everything a bit lower to the lowest. Didn't do anything noticeable on the battery though... installed the power driver for titan/vogue but don't know what it's doing exactly.
However, I charged the battery with usb last night (on a power off state) and ask my huband to pull it off when it's done. He said that he pulled it off around 2am. And I turned it on around 7.30am and found that the battery is 96%. What a revelation! Usually it will take around 30-40% even at power off.
I hope it can do better at standby mode

[Q] Best ROM for Skype?

Hi all
I'm so sick of switching ROMs on my EVO 4G!! My battery life seems to suck no matter which ROM I try. I've tested my battery; it's fine. What I'd like is to be able to use Skype (just chatting; rarely use voice on Skype) with my EVO and get more than 3 hours battery life. I don't use Skype constantly; just want to be able to use the phone for more than a few hours before it becomes a paperweight!
Right now, pretty much as soon as I log into Skype on the EVO the batt drops to 80% and continues to drop every 30 min or so. Forget web browsing or texting; that kills it so fast it's dead in 2 hours.
I'm running Deodexed 4.24.651.1 and have tried Cyanomod, Baked Snack, Stock rooted and they all suck for battery life with Skype.
Maybe I need a different kernel?
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!

mellie815 said:
Hi all
I'm so sick of switching ROMs on my EVO 4G!! My battery life seems to suck no matter which ROM I try. I've tested my battery; it's fine. What I'd like is to be able to use Skype (just chatting; rarely use voice on Skype) with my EVO and get more than 3 hours battery life. I don't use Skype constantly; just want to be able to use the phone for more than a few hours before it becomes a paperweight!
Right now, pretty much as soon as I log into Skype on the EVO the batt drops to 80% and continues to drop every 30 min or so. Forget web browsing or texting; that kills it so fast it's dead in 2 hours.
I'm running Deodexed 4.24.651.1 and have tried Cyanomod, Baked Snack, Stock rooted and they all suck for battery life with Skype.
Maybe I need a different kernel?
Any ideas???
Thanks in advance!
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Maybe because it's Saturday. I'm surprised they haven't jumped on you for posting this in this section. None of the roms that are gingerbread will have the life you had on 2.2 unless the code gets released and the guys that make kernels can make new ones. Battery life on the roms vary but if it means alot you should try Calkulin's rom. He has an undervolting script built in that may work for you. If you flash a kernel from the 2.2 roms you might get better battery life but something will break in the rom, ie camera.

Awesome development work dude!!!!!! Cant wait to try it out. Where's the download link??

My first idea would be posting in the correct section, or, it sucks that Skype and battery life blow on this rom you developed.
Since that is over, are you wiping properly with a formatall.zip? Are you making sure to flash the correct kernels with the corresponding rom? Are you restoring any data with titanium backup?
Move this to the q&a and you will get the information you are looking for.
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I thought you had to have 10 posts before you could post in the dev section?
simple answer - skype though awesome also sucks.
for example just think about a laptop. my 7 hr macbook pro dies in under 2 hrs when i'm video or phone chatting on skype... shouldn't the same be expected for a cell? you're getting 3 hours, albeit only chatting as you say, but skype has been and remains a highly demanding application which although is convenient and widely used IMO is poorly written considering it's cpu and battery drainage. compared to simple web based google chat w/ video I get far superior battery life. like i said, my opinion, my experience. and yes as mentioned, try undervolting or SBC kernels or both. My EVO has ranged from stock settings 5 hr life to deck's w/ tiamat sbc + vipermod approx 40 hours (the 40 was when it was honestly just idle most of the time, occasional call or text a little bit of browsing, i was sick so on laptop mostly- although typical moderate daily use I would still be above 20% before plug in before sleep)
as long as you mentioned it, anyone happen to know a stable skype apk with video that was pulled? i've tried different sources and a bunch of my usual roms and I either get only back camera for a little then crashing or front camera green fuzziness and crash instantly.

Why is it I needed like 10 posts to post here but this guy can ask questions like this with 6 posts? WTF?

charm1950 said:
Why is it I needed like 10 posts to post here but this guy can ask questions like this with 6 posts? WTF?
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First off, I apologize for this being here. I THOUGHT I was posting in the Q & A threads so please don't be snarky. I had the other thread open in another browser tab going back and forth looking for input. How it got accepted I don't know; as I said I thought it was going into the QA area. Sorry.
To altman, yes; I am doing a complete format/wipe and only restoring essentials via Titanium.
To 'crammed', try Tango; it's decent video chat, is free and is soon to be released for desktops too so cell to pc video chat will work. Tango is nice that it lets you utilize both front/rear facing cams (and did I mention it's free?). The big problem is trying to chat with folks who don't have cell access/unlimited minutes who need a desktop option like Skype, which is why I use it. With family in Poland and UK, Skype's the best way to stay connected for free for me but again, they don't have the same cellular access/plans so it's not possible to do cell to cell.
Thanks for the input

OP created his/her account before the 10 post restriction went into effect. The change was not retroactive.

tango is cool....i also use ClearSea...it's got the pc support so you can video chat between cell and pc...works pretty nice over 3g...
just an idea....

Decks 1.2.1 stable ROM in "advanced settings" in settings go to performance, go to VM heap set to 48
Savaged Zen 2.2.1 cfs SBC kernel
Battery calibration (market app) follow in app instructions
Setcpu (market app) my settings are 1152 Max 245 min savagedzen governor
Download rom manager and run fix permissions
Let it all sit 3 days, takes kernel that long to set and battery life gets better after a few full charges
I get great battery life. I get upwards of 20 hours easy and I use my phone heavily so, hopefully this will help
Next time please post your questions in the q and a section, dev is for someone who has something they have developed for the community to use. Thanks
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You guys sound like he should be hanged for posting here. Lol people make mistakes, it isn't that big of an issue.
If battery life is an issue for you, you have a few options. You can jump to CM7 or Evo Deck and set them up properly. With either of those, you can flash a nice kernel and set clock speeds accordingly. Battery life is going to suck on any 2.3.3 Rom right now, because developers have no access to the source code for the kernel. HTC is taking their sweet time.
However, you can also look into extended batteries. I have a one I found on ebay for about $16, and it's wonderful. The phone has a little bulk now, but I am currently sitting at 16.25 hours off the charger, and I'm at 32%. This is also on Synergy currently, so there is no custom kernel or anything in use.
Just a few thoughts.
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GeneralSky2004 said:
You guys sound like he should be hanged for posting here. Lol people make mistakes, it isn't that big of an issue.
If battery life is an issue for you, you have a few options. You can jump to CM7 or Evo Deck and set them up properly. With either of those, you can flash a nice kernel and set clock speeds accordingly. Battery life is going to suck on any 2.3.3 Rom right now, because developers have no access to the source code for the kernel. HTC is taking their sweet time.
However, you can also look into extended batteries. I have a one I found on ebay for about $16, and it's wonderful. The phone has a little bulk now, but I am currently sitting at 16.25 hours off the charger, and I'm at 32%. This is also on Synergy currently, so there is no custom kernel or anything in use.
Just a few thoughts.
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+1. It's easy to screw up when you've been up all night downloading and flashing the newest versions of your favorite ROMs or desperately seeking the answers you need. No need to grab your torches once the first 14 people have cried "wrong section" (most of whom then offer advice afterward, enabling much?)

charm1950 said:
Why is it I needed like 10 posts to post here but this guy can ask questions like this with 6 posts? WTF?
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I have a better question:
Why is it that someone felt it necessary to bump a post that clearly was ignored by everyone and put on the second or third page just to flame someone?
This thread went unnoticed with no replies for over an hour and yet someone felt that necessary.
That **** is just as bad as posting in the wrong section, if not worse.

i have been a member of this forum for about a year now. and as you can tell i have very few posts. The ones i do are simply to say thanks to someone who made an awesome rom/kernel/etc. I spend most of the time searching for the answers im looking for. perhaps if you looked in the right section and researched a bit before you continuously flashed your phone you would know what is going on with it.
gotta love people that just jump of the cliff because the guy in front of did...

Check out my sig, AOSP setup would probably help you with battery life. Current radios too

Zac95 said:
Let it all sit 3 days, takes kernel that long to set and battery life gets better after a few full charges
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Can you elaborate on this a little? I don't necessarily wanna bump this thread, but being a Comp. Sci. major, this seems odd to me.. What does it mean for a kernel to 'set'?
Or are you talking about the collection of data for the accurate battery reading (batters stats)?

mellie815 said:
First off, I apologize for this being here. I THOUGHT I was posting in the Q & A threads so please don't be snarky. I had the other thread open in another browser tab going back and forth looking for input. How it got accepted I don't know; as I said I thought it was going into the QA area. Sorry.
To altman, yes; I am doing a complete format/wipe and only restoring essentials via Titanium.
To 'crammed', try Tango; it's decent video chat, is free and is soon to be released for desktops too so cell to pc video chat will work. Tango is nice that it lets you utilize both front/rear facing cams (and did I mention it's free?). The big problem is trying to chat with folks who don't have cell access/unlimited minutes who need a desktop option like Skype, which is why I use it. With family in Poland and UK, Skype's the best way to stay connected for free for me but again, they don't have the same cellular access/plans so it's not possible to do cell to cell.
Thanks for the input
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Thanks for the tip. I wasn't directing the 10 post mark at you btw, more at moderators/XDA in general. My first account was locked for "spamming" I presume to get 10 posts whereas I actually spent hours answering ppl's questions in the q & a but I guess the short time frame wasn't liked. But I digress, I'm not so in need for cell to cell as much as a nice universal cell to cell/desktop cross platform and unfortunately skype is the most popular. My girlfriend as well as many friends/relatives also don't have the latest phones so the cell to desktop is wanted. for now I'm just sticking to gtalk, with isn't without it's errors either.
muf454 said:
Can you elaborate on this a little? I don't necessarily wanna bump this thread, but being a Comp. Sci. major, this seems odd to me.. What does it mean for a kernel to 'set'?
Or are you talking about the collection of data for the accurate battery reading (batters stats)?
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... Kernel to set meaning it takes a bit for it to settle down to the way it will normally function, call it "breaking it in" or like how you gotta drive a car a few thousand miles before your performance and MPG are where the manufacturer claims itll be... Yeah I kinda like the second analogy, go me!
Frequent flashing or flashing too soon sort of doesn't give the rom or kernel a chance because they haven't stabilized, often why some people praise while at the same time others curse a rom/kernel. Myself included :/ yikes. I found that to be true when deck was held up on his updates for almost a week and my phone was amazing, but I updated and went back into the loop of constant flashing so keep that in mind, if you're set on giving s rom and kernel a shot, give it at least a few days of the kind of use you NORMALLY would. If you're playing with it all day and it dies don't call it shotty battery life until you keep it in your pocket most of the day during the week. Not trying to berate anyone, I've done these same things myself, patience is a virtue after all.

reddyfire said:
i have been a member of this forum for about a year now. and as you can tell i have very few posts. The ones i do are simply to say thanks to someone who made an awesome rom/kernel/etc. I spend most of the time searching for the answers im looking for. perhaps if you looked in the right section and researched a bit before you continuously flashed your phone you would know what is going on with it.
gotta love people that just jump of the cliff because the guy in front of did...
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lol reddy
I DID research the ROMs extensively; that's why I'm frustrated. I've tried so many after reading about how great they are. I'm not saying they AREN'T great either, just not working where I live. There's no 4G coverage already and 3G is spotty. Even if I don't load Skype at all I can't get 8 hours off my EVO before it dies.
When you rely on your phone for business like I do, even without Skype at all, you gotta be able to get through a normal workday or the phone's a pretty paperweight and not much else. Right now, I HAVE to plug it in at work or it won't last 8 hours and that just sux.

mellie815 said:
lol reddy
I DID research the ROMs extensively; that's why I'm frustrated. I've tried so many after reading about how great they are. I'm not saying they AREN'T great either, just not working where I live. There's no 4G coverage already and 3G is spotty. Even if I don't load Skype at all I can't get 8 hours off my EVO before it dies.
When you rely on your phone for business like I do, even without Skype at all, you gotta be able to get through a normal workday or the phone's a pretty paperweight and not much else. Right now, I HAVE to plug it in at work or it won't last 8 hours and that just sux.
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Well then the issue lies with the network not your Rom
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Please Help.(Individually bizzare Problem...I think.) DHD

Hello all,
I made this thread in hopes of getting an explanation and maybe a bit of guidance to my problem. My problem is that my Desire HD(T-Mobile UK) crashes all the time. I have had this phone for just over a year, and had it rooted for the past 8 months with little problem, however only recently, in the past 3-4 months it would just turn off at random points and then need restarting. It has not made a difference what ROM I have had, whether it was Cyanogen, Android Revolution, RCMix3d, ClearDroid, or MIUI, after a few days of having the new ROM it would crash throughout the day, with any amount of battery on it. I followed the most respected guides put on this site, and still it made no difference.
At first I thought it was the way I'd been flashing my ROM's, so as I have never been able to get HTC Sync to recognize my phone, I re-flashed a fresh stock 1.32 and then manually installed the ADB Drivers, the phones USB Drivers, and rooted the phone with Visionary+ all over again. This made no difference.
So then I moved on to thinking it was my Battery, so I bought a new battery and that made no difference either. This made me assume it is a software issue.
I then began thinking that it could be the Overclock/Undervolt settings, even though I hadn't touched them, I thought it might fix my phone if I made the minimum it could reach 350+mhz instead of 280+mhz, thus keeping the phone running at a faster speed and not crash.But this made no difference either.
The only thing I have been able to do has been to flash the 1.32 Stock and that seems to get it working, battery drains a bit quicker but doesn't die while still saying 55% left. I have also tried charging the phone til 100% using Elixir's mA widget, deleting the battery stats file(re calibrating the battery), and letting it reach 0 and charging again. But no luck.
If you have any advice I will gladly listen, I'm baffled as to what has happened, and am not sure what to do next.
Apologies as well if this thread is posted in the wrong section, I am quite new with this site.
Thank you very much in advance guys.
ponl1882

pride_ofnorthlondon1882 said:
Hello all,
I made this thread in hopes of getting an explanation and maybe a bit of guidance to my problem. My problem is that my Desire HD(T-Mobile UK) crashes all the time. I have had this phone for just over a year, and had it rooted for the past 8 months with little problem, however only recently, in the past 3-4 months it would just turn off at random points and then need restarting. It has not made a difference what ROM I have had, whether it was Cyanogen, Android Revolution, RCMix3d, ClearDroid, or MIUI, after a few days of having the new ROM it would crash throughout the day, with any amount of battery on it. I followed the most respected guides put on this site, and still it made no difference.
At first I thought it was the way I'd been flashing my ROM's, so as I have never been able to get HTC Sync to recognize my phone, I re-flashed a fresh stock 1.32 and then manually installed the ADB Drivers, the phones USB Drivers, and rooted the phone with Visionary+ all over again. This made no difference.
So then I moved on to thinking it was my Battery, so I bought a new battery and that made no difference either. This made me assume it is a software issue.
I then began thinking that it could be the Overclock/Undervolt settings, even though I hadn't touched them, I thought it might fix my phone if I made the minimum it could reach 350+mhz instead of 280+mhz, thus keeping the phone running at a faster speed and not crash.But this made no difference either.
The only thing I have been able to do has been to flash the 1.32 Stock and that seems to get it working, battery drains a bit quicker but doesn't die while still saying 55% left. I have also tried charging the phone til 100% using Elixir's mA widget, deleting the battery stats file(re calibrating the battery), and letting it reach 0 and charging again. But no luck.
If you have any advice I will gladly listen, I'm baffled as to what has happened, and am not sure what to do next.
Apologies as well if this thread is posted in the wrong section, I am quite new with this site.
Thank you very much in advance guys.
ponl1882
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To me it really sounds like a hardware problem which is bad news. Try phoning HTC directly and ask them what to do. Don't mention at all that you have rooted it

Scottymeuk said:
To me it really sounds like a hardware problem which is bad news. Try phoning HTC directly and ask them what to do. Don't mention at all that you have rooted it
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Oh bumsicles.

(Mcgyver: FIXED) MB525 BL7 and Battery: Ongoing

ok long story short. never flashed a kernal before but i decided to try cm10 and went with the gingerbread build and so i flashed the kernal and cm10 compatible rom. it wasnt running very well so i flashed back to the froyo kernal and the compatible cm10 rom.
all was ok but i wanted to go back to cm7 because the phone was considerably faster and so...
today tried to restore one of my cm7 kang back ups from recovery and the phone died. i think what happened is i got mixed up with the back ups and i must have restored the gingerbread cm10 first and without realiszing it flashed the cm7 with a froyo kernal and bang we have a dead phone. it simply wouldnt boot past the google lettering and so when i got home i decided to flash a full sbf and start from scratch however when i tired i got the dreaded battery low error so i followed this
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=892026
and it worked but rsd lite didnt show my phone. there was simply nothing there when i started it. all very annoying so i uninstalled everything and by the time i started again i got the message battery low.
so my question is can mcgyver work if the battery is actually really low say 10-20 per cent or less?
is it worth buying a new fully charged battery and using that?
why wouldnt rsd lite recognize my phone?
is there anyway to charge the battery when it is like this?
nb. i am running windows 7 sp1 and have installed the latest drivers and rsd lite am my phone is a moto defy m525 red lense.
all very annoying and in five years of rooting and flashing i have never been in a situation where i couldnt recover it. too be honest i have been here before with the defy but i had a spare battery and a proper wall charger and so that was problem solved but i dont own them anymore and i am now not sure/ cant remember if a simple full battery will help hence the questions.

In theory it should work. You are supplying the terminals with the intended 5V and a ground.
However it is recommended to charge your battery, use an external battery charger and then flash the SBF. Its hell of a risk trying to flash SBF with low battery. The phone may actually brick with no way to restore it.

it is strange but using the mcgyver method i can get the bootloader ready to program i simply cant get rsd lite to see my phone and neither does windows. there are loads of posts and threads on this but not many (none actually when the situation i am is mentioned) offer a solution.
so i have ordered a new battery which will hopefully arrive tomorrow and i will see how we get on from there.

rockmonkey1973 said:
it is strange but using the mcgyver method i can get the bootloader ready to program i simply cant get rsd lite to see my phone and neither does windows. there are loads of posts and threads on this but not many (none actually when the situation i am is mentioned) offer a solution.
so i have ordered a new battery which will hopefully arrive tomorrow and i will see how we get on from there.
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do u have blank flash mode enabled in rsd?
does defy show up in device manager?
try switching usb ports
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try switching usb ports
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doh!
amazing i simply used another cable and usb port and then i had to unplug it and plug it again and drivers started to be installed. (i had already installed motos drivers but hey windows wanted more!).
i also went back to the older 4.9 version of rsd lite. it has been a long long time since i have had to do this. installing nordic and will try and install one of my other back ups. all should be well very soon fingers crossed.
looks like the spare battery i bought will be going back then. oh well.
cheers mate your post prompted me to try again and just tinker and it worked so appreciate that.
edit: seems a bit stuck and i am now a little unsure what to do. the android bootscreen is stuck and rsd lite is saying maually power up this phone. i am a little concerned because it is still saying in process even though it has flashed the sbf. i have tried turning it off and nothing happens. it looks like i am actually going to have to unplug the cables remove the mgyver wires and take out the battery and boot it.
bollox. it is dead again so i have to start again. trying a different sbf this time. not sure what happened there. maybe i was too impatient?
honestly not sure what is happening here. i have tried a standard blurred sbf 2.2 and the phone is now stuck on the m animation and rsd lite iks omce again saying manually start this phone. what in the world do i do next?
ah god i will have to do some more reading because it is ****ed. i now have a white light and black screen. rsd lite just remained stuck at 100 per cent in process and manually boot your phone. have tried it three times and that is all i get. not sure if it is because i am flashing froyo sbfs when i have had a 2.3 kernal on the device? it is why i have avoided flashing them in the first place and the first time i ever do bang i get a bricked phone when i try to restore it back to cm7. the phone came with 2.1 so should i be flashing them?
very boring and very very annoying.
getting quite tired of this little game and am on the brink of buying another phone.

ok i have a red lense defy and after much reading i have realised that i must be flashing the wrong sbfs now call me stupid but i actually am very confused about which one i need to flash.
i started on 2.1 originally then i flashed 2.2 and then stuck cm7 on the phone with a froyo kernal. however when i upgraded to cm10 i tried the 2.3 kernal.
so with this background in mind will this work???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1595013
can i follow this to flash the sbf and get root?
or is there another sbf i need to flash. all i need to be able to do is root the phone and install cwm and then i can flash one of my back ups (properly this time).

rockmonkey1973 said:
ok i have a red lense defy and after much reading i have realised that i must be flashing the wrong sbfs now call me stupid but i actually am very confused about which one i need to flash.
i started on 2.1 originally then i flashed 2.2 and then stuck cm7 on the phone with a froyo kernal. however when i upgraded to cm10 i tried the 2.3 kernal.
so with this background in mind will this work???
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1595013
can i follow this to flash the sbf and get root?
or is there another sbf i need to flash. all i need to be able to do is root the phone and install cwm and then i can flash one of my back ups (properly this time).
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Thats for BL7.. Some Defy+ with 2.3.6 were BL7. You definitely don't need to flash it..
Just flash the last SBF that worked for you..

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Thats for BL7.. Some Defy+ with 2.3.6 were BL7. You definitely don't need to flash it..
Just flash the last SBF that worked for you..
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yes mate i did the last sbf i flashed over a year ago was nordic and i got the error as listed above. have no idea what i am doing wrong but i must be doing something. trouble is the new battery has arrived and i have already tried a new sbf and still getting the same problem... manually need to reboot the phone.
bit worrying because obviously i will only have a certain number of tries before this new battery dies on me.
edit: absolutely annoying. part of the problem with the guides on here are that they are mostly incomplete. they dont actually tell you everything you need to do. take for instance this the guide for unbricking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1828639
it is totally useless because what he fails to mention is that
to boot into stock recovery you need to hold down the volume button when you power on the phone and you will get a droid with an exclamation mark and then you need to hold down both the volume up and down buttons which after a few seconds will take you to stock recovery. then you can wipe cache etc and the phone will boot. i found this out here (notice how people are telling the guy to simply flash a new sbf!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1608812
the mad thing is if i had found that simple post just above and knew about the up and down volume buttons i would have fixed the defy on the very first try. that is what is so annoying about this situation.

ok
red lense defy.
long story short i flashed one of the bl7 defy plus gingerbread sbfs.
so i have gone through the root procedure by installing the rooted sbf in rsd lite and then i can install 2nd init 2.0.3 and can get a custom recovery installed.
but every time i try to install cm7.2 euro skank it reverts back to the bootloader. here is what i have done twice in recovery with the exact same result.
wipe cache, data, dalvik and battery stats/ flash cm7 froyo kernal/ then flash the rom/ then flash gapps and then wipe again and then reboot.
when the phone starts again i am once again back to the bootloader and i have to start all over again.
so a very simple question from the position i am in what exactly do i need to do to get cm7 running on the phone.

double post but there are worse crimes!
ok so i have realised that i am stuck on the gingerbread kernal and that any froyo based rom is not gonna work.
wow how did i end up here! bloody hell that is what happens when you start getting ****ed off with the phone not doing what you think it should. anyways it is done now and i have cm7 all up and running and have even been able to make a back up so that if anything happens in the future when i am experimenting then i have a decent base from which to start. everything is working including the camera data wifi calls and well everything except...
i have one all rather serious problem that i really need to get sorted (this is it if i can fix this then i can leave the phone alone).
my battery is not recognized. now the phone runs on the battery which is a big step up from before where i was literally having to leave it plugged in just to keep it on. but the battery icon at the top is displaying a question markn and i dont know if it is charging or not. i also have no idea how much battery is left.
i have flashed both the defy red lense ics battery zip and the defy plus battery fix and i wiped cache dalvik and battery stats before i flashed them and the cache after but neither of these worked.
anyone actually care to help out here. what do i need to do to get my battery recognized? seriously if you know then please share because i have wasted a day and a half on this and through sheer frustration dug myself into a huge hole and it took ages to climb out.
all i am asking for is a bit of guidance from someone who actually knows what they are talking about. if that sounds like you do me a favour and simply tell me what i should do because i am now totally and utterly stumped.
cheers.

rockmonkey1973 said:
yes mate i did the last sbf i flashed over a year ago was nordic and i got the error as listed above. have no idea what i am doing wrong but i must be doing something. trouble is the new battery has arrived and i have already tried a new sbf and still getting the same problem... manually need to reboot the phone.
bit worrying because obviously i will only have a certain number of tries before this new battery dies on me.
edit: absolutely annoying. part of the problem with the guides on here are that they are mostly incomplete. they dont actually tell you everything you need to do. take for instance this the guide for unbricking
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1828639
it is totally useless because what he fails to mention is that
to boot into stock recovery you need to hold down the volume button when you power on the phone and you will get a droid with an exclamation mark and then you need to hold down both the volume up and down buttons which after a few seconds will take you to stock recovery. then you can wipe cache etc and the phone will boot. i found this out here (notice how people are telling the guy to simply flash a new sbf!)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1608812
the mad thing is if i had found that simple post just above and knew about the up and down volume buttons i would have fixed the defy on the very first try. that is what is so annoying about this situation.
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rockmonkey1973 said:
double post but there are worse crimes!
ok so i have realised that i am stuck on the gingerbread kernal and that any froyo based rom is not gonna work.
wow how did i end up here! bloody hell that is what happens when you start getting ****ed off with the phone not doing what you think it should. anyways it is done now and i have cm7 all up and running and have even been able to make a back up so that if anything happens in the future when i am experimenting then i have a decent base from which to start. everything is working including the camera data wifi calls and well everything except...
i have one all rather serious problem that i really need to get sorted (this is it if i can fix this then i can leave the phone alone).
my battery is not recognized. now the phone runs on the battery which is a big step up from before where i was literally having to leave it plugged in just to keep it on. but the battery icon at the top is displaying a question markn and i dont know if it is charging or not. i also have no idea how much battery is left.
i have flashed both the defy red lense ics battery zip and the defy plus battery fix and i wiped cache dalvik and battery stats before i flashed them and the cache after but neither of these worked.
anyone actually care to help out here. what do i need to do to get my battery recognized? seriously if you know then please share because i have wasted a day and a half on this and through sheer frustration dug myself into a huge hole and it took ages to climb out.
all i am asking for is a bit of guidance from someone who actually knows what they are talking about. if that sounds like you do me a favour and simply tell me what i should do because i am now totally and utterly stumped.
cheers.
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First of all Stop whining about the guides being incomplete. They have helped a lot of people before you and are still helping.. If you mean every post should mention trivial stuff like booting into recovery and wiping data then just imagine the redundancy of the stuff.
If only you were patient enough to read before reacting. Defy Beginner's guide clearly mention 'bout booting into recovery & bootloader so its your folly for not collecting the info before processing..
anyone actually care to help out here. what do i need to do to get my battery recognized? seriously if you know then please share because i have wasted a day and a half on this and through sheer frustration dug myself into a huge hole and it took ages to climb out.
all i am asking for is a bit of guidance from someone who actually knows what they are talking about. if that sounds like you do me a favour and simply tell me what i should do because i am now totally and utterly stumped.
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Don't know what you've wasted your day on, but all I can suggest is flash the battery fix for Defy+. Search for it. not difficult to find.

neo.ank said:
First of all Stop whining about the guides being incomplete. They have helped a lot of people before you and are still helping.. If you mean every post should mention trivial stuff like booting into recovery and wiping data then just imagine the redundancy of the stuff.
If only you were patient enough to read before reacting. Defy Beginner's guide clearly mention 'bout booting into recovery & bootloader so its your folly for not collecting the info before processing..
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whining! i didnt think i was whining although i can get annoyed and sometimes my frustration is vented without thinking. i accept that the phone being where it is is indeed my fault. in fact if i had just left it alone then it would have been running as well as it ever did. i am also a great advocate of the developers who spend there time providing us roms and tools for us to use and i can say hand on heart i appreciate the fine work they do often for free. i am also an avid reader of the guides being a simple bod with very little knowledge of flashing hacking and what not and they have saved my bacon more times than i care to remember over the last four or five years. and so you are spot on the guides help a lot... not just me but many before me and most likely many after and give us mere mortals the chance to stay current with firmware long after the manufacturer has abandoned the phone. so while i may have been complaining rather angrily i was not whining.
the fact is that guide is incomplete. not only is it incomplete but it is the one that is linked to on the wiki as the guide to follow on how to unbrick your phone.
if you are like me a tinkerer who every once in a while likes to try out a new rom and who doesnt know the every inner workings of the procedures and who needs to follow instructions then i think the least you can expect is for the definitive guide to be correct! i mean that isnt too much to ask for is it.
so yes i do expect them to list every basic important step one must follow to fix the phone because that is what instructions do they guide people who dont know what they are doing. that is there sole purpose and if they dont do that job then they should either be edited so they do or deleted.
and yes yesterday i was very annoyed at the fact that the guide i was following does not actually tell you exactly what one should do and i can promise you if it had of done then i would not be in the position i am in it is as simple as that. i mean you cant seriously expect people to think oh right these are the instructions for unbricking the phone but i bet you they aint right so i had better read some more instructions for the same thing... and hey they might not be complete as well so i had better read yet another set just in case. leave it out will you.
at the end of the day it doesnt matter and at the risk of repeating myself i know that if i had left well alone the phone would be fine so ultimately i have no one else to blame but myself. if i had been a little more patient and less stressed wondering why the phone wouldnt boot after what appeared to be a successful flash then i would have got there in the end without being stuck on a gingerbread kernal.
neo.ank said:
Don't know what you've wasted your day on, but all I can suggest is flash the battery fix for Defy+. Search for it. not difficult to find.
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well if you had read through this thread then you may have seen i have wasted a day and a half on quite a lot of reading as it goes. you may have also seen that i have flashed 2 battery fixes and that they havent helped. so i am wondering if you know what else i could do to fix the problem? if you do and you dont mind telling me then i would be grateful. if you dont then no big deal... i will read through a few more threads and see if i cant get to the bottom of it.
EDIT: I have reread what i wrote and i take that back the guide is far from useless in fact it is excellent and i mean that. in every other way it is spot on and is the de facto guide to sorting yourself out of a hole. but it does miss out some vital information that (i think at least) really should be there. still water under the bridge and all that. we are were we are and one must move on. bottom line it is only a phone and if it comes to it i will buy another. the only reason i havent actually bought another so far is the buld quality and form factor of the defy is still yet to be bettered. but maybe it is a sign a message from above telling me to move on to pastures new.... although i would still like to fix the battery issue.

ok it is fixed. as i was writing this reply i installed the white rabbit rom (which i read included red lense battery fixes). true to its word there are five downloadable files. i got four (one woudnt download) and rebooted the system and hey presto.
well what a difference a day and a decent nights kip make. and colour me impressed. this rom is a work of genius. i see it is based on euro kangs cm7 effort with a few nice (well actually loads) extras thrown in for good measure. have to say i am really liking it. calls data wifi camera and battery all work and it looks and feels swift and very polished.
so all is well that ends well. and what a journey. man all i wanted to do was restore cm7 from my back ups. flashing the gingerbread based cm10 before i did it i reckon screwed me and i didnt realise what i had done until after when it wouldnt boot. however xda saved the day as it always does (even if it did take me quite a lot time to get there this time round). i may even write a mini guide but then either no one would bother reading it or i would get loads of people whining at me telling me how it aint right so i think i will avoid that little task and leave it to people more brave and knowledgeable than i.
cheers all for the help in this thread, the time taken by others to write stuff down and the people who provide us with some great software for our ageing but still great phone.

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if you need help mate then a little bit more info is gonna be required.
i will say this that i havent quite fixed it completely. i have the rom running sweet as a pie and the phone will work away from a power source but the battery percent/ icon remains locked at 100 per cent so i have no way of knowing if the phone is charging. when i plug it in to my laptop it says usb connected but again it doesnt list it as charging. so i have no way of knowing if the battery is actually getting charged or how much is really left.
i am also far from an expert more a bumbling old timer who rarely posts here unless desperate.
bear all that in mind and i will do all i can to help (provided you specifically say what you want help with)
edit: lmao... i couldnt have picked a worse sbf to flash. amazing. i have been so so careful in all the time i have owned this phone (over a year i reckon now) and i may have finally actually broken it.
i aint even certain i can charge the battery and once it runs down it will simply die. obviously there is hope that someone will come up with a downgrade method at some point in the future but for the time being i think the phone is ****ed.
i will try ics tomorrow and see if i can get any joy there but i think the only way i can now use the phone is to buy an external battery charger. funny really i used to own both a spare battery and a charger for this very reason and yet i sold them when i got rid of the old defy. so i am gonna have to buy one off ebay tomorrow and use it that way. at least then i will be able to use the phone.

rockmonkey1973 said:
if you need help mate then a little bit more info is gonna be required.
i will say this that i havent quite fixed it completely. i have the rom running sweet as a pie and the phone will work away from a power source but the battery percent/ icon remains locked at 100 per cent so i have no way of knowing if the phone is charging. when i plug it in to my laptop it says usb connected but again it doesnt list it as charging. so i have no way of knowing if the battery is actually getting charged or how much is really left.
i am also far from an expert more a bumbling old timer who rarely posts here unless desperate.
bear all that in mind and i will do all i can to help (provided you specifically say what you want help with)
edit: lmao... i couldnt have picked a worse sbf to flash. amazing. i have been so so careful in all the time i have owned this phone (over a year i reckon now) and i may have finally actually broken it.
i aint even certain i can charge the battery and once it runs down it will simply die. obviously there is hope that someone will come up with a downgrade method at some point in the future but for the time being i think the phone is ****ed.
i will try ics tomorrow and see if i can get any joy there but i think the only way i can now use the phone is to buy an external battery charger. funny really i used to own both a spare battery and a charger for this very reason and yet i sold them when i got rid of the old defy. so i am gonna have to buy one off ebay tomorrow and use it that way. at least then i will be able to use the phone.
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You're on BL7 now and there's a reason people advise to avoid it. Most of the fixes and scripts doesn't work with BL7 including the battery fixes.
I'd suggest you to go for Quarx's build for GB kernel (along with the battery fix), Randomly flashing ROMs and fixes won't help.
Moreover, I strongly recommend you to search and read carefully. You're not the first one to face the problem, and there's a solution. Even if you waste(?) a couple of days reading 'bout it, it won't kill your phone, but if you do something out of desperation it might.

neo.ank said:
Moreover, I strongly recommend you to search and read carefully. You're not the first one to face the problem, and there's a solution. Even if you waste(?) a couple of days reading 'bout it, it won't kill your phone, but if you do something out of desperation it might.
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i take it you mean this like in retrospect? of course you are right a deep breath and a walk does wonders for a fuddled head and is far better than simply rushing into the next desperate attempt to repair. however it is easy to say this after the event yes!
the battery wont charge and if i flash another rom it gives me the big battery icon with question mark so i am once again stuck in a corner with no where to go. basically it is ****ed because none of the battery fixes work. the battery works when there is power in it but it just wont charge when in the phone. because the battery ran down last night the only way i can use my phone at the moment is tethered to the mcgyver trick.
so the plan is to buy a separate charger and use that to charge the battery. then i reckon i should be at least able use the phone (although this yet to be tested).
amazing seriously amazing. a year of owning this phone a year of flashing and hacking and being ultra conservative and then all it takes is a few minutes of madness and it is royally screwed. the crying shame about it is that i have installed the best rom i have ever seen in the white rabbit and if the external charger doesnt work i wont get to play with it! still live and learn.
edit: by the way do you know if the mcgyver trick actually charges the battery?
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rockmonkey1973 said:
i take it you mean this like in retrospect? of course you are right a deep breath and a walk does wonders for a fuddled head and is far better than simply rushing into the next desperate attempt to repair. however it is easy to say this after the event yes!
the battery wont charge and if i flash another rom it gives me the big battery icon with question mark so i am once again stuck in a corner with no where to go. basically it is ****ed because none of the battery fixes work. the battery works when there is power in it but it just wont charge when in the phone. because the battery ran down last night the only way i can use my phone at the moment is tethered to the mcgyver trick.
so the plan is to buy a separate charger and use that to charge the battery. then i reckon i should be at least able use the phone (although this yet to be tested).
amazing seriously amazing. a year of owning this phone a year of flashing and hacking and being ultra conservative and then all it takes is a few minutes of madness and it is royally screwed. the crying shame about it is that i have installed the best rom i have ever seen in the white rabbit and if the external charger doesnt work i wont get to play with it! still live and learn.
edit: by the way do you know if the mcgyver trick actually charges the battery?
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The battery fixes replace your battd.bin binary file which stores the info about the battery. Surprisingly there isn't a single binary that work with each phone, it acts weirdly and not sure what fix will work for a particular phone.. I again suggest you, every battery fix you find. You're not the first one to face the problem and its been sorted for many..
Mcgyver just supply the device with intended charge as the battery does. It doesn't charge the battery.
Don't know if you tried this one.
Defy Red Lens Battery Fix

neo.ank said:
The battery fixes replace your battd.bin binary file which stores the info about the battery. Surprisingly there isn't a single binary that work with each phone, it acts weirdly and not sure what fix will work for a particular phone.. I again suggest you, every battery fix you find. You're not the first one to face the problem and its been sorted for many..
Mcgyver just supply the device with intended charge as the battery does. It doesn't charge the battery.
Don't know if you tried this one.
Defy Red Lens Battery Fix
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i have tried it mate. i have also tired the ics defy red lense and the white rabbit rom had four of them available to download. none of them have worked. basically as it is now the phone will not stay on without the mcgyver leads and the battery wont charge. i have flashed 6 different battery fixes.
edit: it is strange once i have given it a blast on mcgyver for an hour or so i can then use the phone normally. however the battery is locked at 100 per cent and there is no indication it is charging when a usb lead is plugged in. seriously i have tried 6 of the fixes and none have actually worked.
if you are saying there is a fix for this then i would love to know what it is because i havent found one yet.
edit again!!!: ok this is strange because now when i plug it in to a usb lead the green light appears as if it was charging. very very strange this. i mean like really ****ing weird.
final edit: ok i am officially giving up. it has beaten me and for the first time ever i have got myself into a situation that i cant get out of. who would have thought a simple battery would be the cause of so much ****ing grief. anyway. for total clarity.
i am now running white rabbit rom runs great highly recommended and way quicker than the cm10 efforts that are being worked on at the moment. i have tried 6 battery fixes. none work. i am sometimes able to use the phone without being connected to the mcgyver leads but the battery remains locked at 100 per cent. other times the phone dies and the only way to boot it again is the mcgyver leads. if i do that then battery may change to say 25 per cent or even 75 per cent. basically it is all over the shot. i have tried to install another rom and this leads to the exact same thing. if i turn it on without the mcgyver leads i get the battery error. sometimes when connected to the usb port the phone has the led green light like it is charging then other times it doesnt. it is basically well and truly ****ed up.
so i am giving up. i have wasted quite enough time on a phone i have been thinking of changing as it is. i am gonna buy a sensation as a short term replacement. not as nice as the defy form wise but far faster and with a decent modding community so it will do for now. i will return here every now and then to see if someone comes up with a way to downgrade the bl7 but until that happens the phone is gonna gather dust in my drawer.
i think this thread serves as decent guide as to what shouldnt be done if you want to unbrick your phone (and also includes a few little things that may be missing elsewhere) so hopefully someone can learn from it. cheers all and see you later.

ok well this is the end of this thread (unless i find a proper working solution).
i was unable to charge the phone unless i used the mcyver trick. basically the only way it would accept a charge was if the mcgyver leads were connected. however the battery would charge once the mcgyver leads were in place but stays locked at 100 per cent no matter what i do. it may be the rom i am using but every time i tried another i got the battery error.
i have now bought an external battery charger and spare battery. it works a treat. i simply use the charger to charge one battery and use the other battery to power the phone. when the battery dies i simply switch them around and use the phone as normal.
this way i am no longer having to boot the phone using mcgyver and the only thing i am missing is the ability to charge the battery internally or tell how much battery life is actually left.
so all told all is well that sort of ends well. at least i can carry on using the defy. i was looking at buying another phone but they are all either too big or too slippy/ fragile in the hand. the only one i would like to buy is the orange san diego but there is no root and even worse there is no sim unlock. so for the time being i will stick with the nearly indestructible defy and hope that moto see sense and release a four inch, 8mp onboard camera and better screen carbon copy. fingers crossed.

[Q] Frustrated newbie needs help

About eight months ago I traded in my Verizon BlackBerry for a Droid Incredible 2, but I still have a LOT to learn, so please bare with me
When I got my Inc2 I immediately got it rooted & flashed with a LOT of help as it took numerous steps and two days to complete. So from day one I've been using Skyraider Zeus, and have really enjoyed it. But recently the battery icon has started turning red with an exclamation point. After having been told by a number of people that this sounded like a battery issue, so I purchased a new battery. Unfortunately that didn't solve the issue. It was then suggested that I flash a new ROM to see if that would fix it. I assumed it would, to an extent, since most ROM's use different battery icon images.
So I traded (begrudgingly) my beloved Skyraider Zeus this weekend for ViperINC 1.3.1. Unfortunately I only used this ROM about 24-hours because I could no longer use wireless tether, which for me was a deal-breaker
I then traded ViperINC for Magnolia 2.1.1, which I very much liked because it was so similar to Skyraider Zeus, and I was once again able to use my wireless tether. Unfortunately I started experiencing the red battery icon issue again, as well as it would not allow me to connect my Google account, thus preventing me from using a lot of features.
So last night I went back to the nandroid backup from over the weekend and am now back to my beloved Skyraider Zeus *SMH*
All this having been said, I have two questions....
First... does anyone have an idea of what could be causing the issue with the battery icon turning red?
Second... can anyone recommend a ROM similar to Skyraider Zeus that can handle my excessive use (email, web, SMS & voice), that supports wireless tether and (if possible) allows me to take screenshots (preferably from the power button like Skyraider)? Oh, and the fewer steps to flash, the better LOL!
Thanks in advance to those who reply!!

JavaBratt said:
About eight months ago I traded in my Verizon BlackBerry for a Droid Incredible 2, but I still have a LOT to learn, so please bare with me
When I got my Inc2 I immediately got it rooted & flashed with a LOT of help as it took numerous steps and two days to complete. So from day one I've been using Skyraider Zeus, and have really enjoyed it. But recently the battery icon has started turning red with an exclamation point. After having been told by a number of people that this sounded like a battery issue, so I purchased a new battery. Unfortunately that didn't solve the issue. It was then suggested that I flash a new ROM to see if that would fix it. I assumed it would, to an extent, since most ROM's use different battery icon images.
So I traded (begrudgingly) my beloved Skyraider Zeus this weekend for ViperINC 1.3.1. Unfortunately I only used this ROM about 24-hours because I could no longer use wireless tether, which for me was a deal-breaker
I then traded ViperINC for Magnolia 2.1.1, which I very much liked because it was so similar to Skyraider Zeus, and I was once again able to use my wireless tether. Unfortunately I started experiencing the red battery icon issue again, as well as it would not allow me to connect my Google account, thus preventing me from using a lot of features.
So last night I went back to the nandroid backup from over the weekend and am now back to my beloved Skyraider Zeus *SMH*
All this having been said, I have two questions....
First... does anyone have an idea of what could be causing the issue with the battery icon turning red?
Second... can anyone recommend a ROM similar to Skyraider Zeus that can handle my excessive use (email, web, SMS & voice), that supports wireless tether and (if possible) allows me to take screenshots (preferably from the power button like Skyraider)? Oh, and the fewer steps to flash, the better LOL!
Thanks in advance to those who reply!!
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It means the phone can't read the battery information (charge level, temperature, etc)... I would first try pulling out the battery and checking the contacts on the battery and the phone. If they are bent or messed up, return the phone to stock and take it back to Verizon for a replacement.

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It means the phone can't read the battery information (charge level, temperature, etc)... I would first try pulling out the battery and checking the contacts on the battery and the phone. If they are bent or messed up, return the phone to stock and take it back to Verizon for a replacement.
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Thanks for the reply, antoniodz95!
I had a number of people suggest it was a battery issue, but cleaning the contacts didn't solve it, so I just got a new battery. But even with the new battery it still happens. I've had days where it barely happens at all, and then I have days where it will stay red almost all day. So I'm thinking it isn't a battery issue at all, but instead is something with the device itself. Which is why I tried a new ROM over the weekend, but again the issue persisted.
Also, I purchased the device outright from someone, so taking it into Verizon isn't an option. That is why I am hoping someone will know how I can fix it since it doesn't appear to be the battery or the ROM causing it
Thanks again!

Your problem definitely sounds like a hardware issue. It could be as simple as a lose connection on the back side of the battery contacts inside your phone. If it isn't negatively affecting the phone's actual battery life and you don't want to crack open the case, you may just have to accept it's imperfection.
As for Rom suggestions... In all honesty, if SkyRader works for you, stick with it. It really is one of the most complete, thorough, and fully functionl GB-basd Sense Roms available for the phone. You could give UKB Evolution a try. But being ICS-based will lend to some "quirks" that may or may not dissuade you from using it.

My wife's phone has the same issue and it is stock unrooted. If memory serves me correctly doesn't skyraider have the option to hide the battery from the status bar? If so just hide it so you don't see it and maybe get a battery widget. The widget may not work either. My wife's phone works fine so it doesn't appear to affect it. And I agree with the above statement that skyraider is hard to beat. As far as gingerbread sense it is my go to rom. I always keep it on my phone in case my phone acts up and I need something dependable.
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Card83 said:
Your problem definitely sounds like a hardware issue. It could be as simple as a lose connection on the back side of the battery contacts inside your phone. If it isn't negatively affecting the phone's actual battery life and you don't want to crack open the case, you may just have to accept it's imperfection.
As for Rom suggestions... In all honesty, if SkyRader works for you, stick with it. It really is one of the most complete, thorough, and fully functionl GB-basd Sense Roms available for the phone. You could give UKB Evolution a try. But being ICS-based will lend to some "quirks" that may or may not dissuade you from using it.
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Thanks for the reply, Card83!
It's hard to say if it's having a negative affect or not. My battery has drained like crazy since day one, but I don't know if it's a normal amount of battery drain or not, nor do I know what causes it. I am a heavy user at times, but there are still those days where it seems to drain much quicker than it should in my opinion. All I do know is when compared to my old BlackBerry, this device is as bad and even sometimes worse when it comes to battery drain.
As far as ROM's go, I think I will just stick with Skyraider unless something really catches my eye, especially since the whole process really isn't all that fun for me LOL!
Thanks again!!
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My wife's phone has the same issue and it is stock unrooted. If memory serves me correctly doesn't skyraider have the option to hide the battery from the status bar? If so just hide it so you don't see it and maybe get a battery widget. The widget may not work either. My wife's phone works fine so it doesn't appear to affect it. And I agree with the above statement that skyraider is hard to beat. As far as gingerbread sense it is my go to rom. I always keep it on my phone in case my phone acts up and I need something dependable.
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Thank you for the reply, NeverSeparate!
I don't honestly know if it can be hid or not to tell you the truth. But it isn't that it bothers me, it just concerns me is all. Especially when I started looking into possible causes and had even the most Android knowledgeable people I know stumped. But it doesn't appear that there is any cut and dry explanation for it, so I guess all I can do is wait hope whatever it is doesn't get worse.
In the meantime I will be sticking with Skyraider. It was nice having a different appearance for the weekend, but it sure wasn't worth all the function that was lost.
Thanks again!!

Its probably hardware but you might try clearing battery stats in recovery. That will probably not do anything but it won't hurt. For full functionality if you want something different try cm7 or the gb miui.
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JavaBratt said:
Thanks in advance to those who reply!!
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Thanks for the reply, antoniodz95!
Thanks again!
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Thanks for the reply, Card83!
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Thank you for the reply, NeverSeparate!
Thanks again!!
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JavaBratt said:
Thanks for the reply, Card83!
It's hard to say if it's having a negative affect or not. My battery has drained like crazy since day one, but I don't know if it's a normal amount of battery drain or not, nor do I know what causes it. I am a heavy user at times, but there are still those days where it seems to drain much quicker than it should in my opinion. All I do know is when compared to my old BlackBerry, this device is as bad and even sometimes worse when it comes to battery drain.
As far as ROM's go, I think I will just stick with Skyraider unless something really catches my eye, especially since the whole process really isn't all that fun for me LOL!
Thanks again!!
Thank you for the reply, NeverSeparate!
I don't honestly know if it can be hid or not to tell you the truth. But it isn't that it bothers me, it just concerns me is all. Especially when I started looking into possible causes and had even the most Android knowledgeable people I know stumped. But it doesn't appear that there is any cut and dry explanation for it, so I guess all I can do is wait hope whatever it is doesn't get worse.
In the meantime I will be sticking with Skyraider. It was nice having a different appearance for the weekend, but it sure wasn't worth all the function that was lost.
Thanks again!!
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Unless you are using an official charger, try a different one, in particular, try the one made for our phones...
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We have 2 DI2 - one has been running SR Zeus continuously (95% of the time) for 15+ months with no issues, with light usage & minimal mobile data/3G - get 3 days+ of standby as it's mostly on voice calls. Mine has been flashed with variety of Roms sourced from XDA, been running lately on HTCI2-MROM based on CM7, battery life is a notch better or equal to SK Zeus - otherwise, it runs on the following Stock Sense Rom, which has nice tweaks - very similiar and as good as Zeus, if not better. It has given me good battery / standby time - average of 2 to 3 days, 25 to 30 hours if I'm really pushing it (tethering, GPS, video streaming, etc.)
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1219471
What Recovery are you using - as others suggested, it could be hardware issues (loose connection/dropped or even (*gasp*) water-damaged pre-owned device that you are now holding, especially with a brand new/fresh battery & HTC's OEM batteries are very good, my old HTC Ozone running Windows 6 is still holding a great charge with its original battery after 4 years.
I would suggest letting the battery drain and fully charge it, go into Recovery & wipe battery stats and use it normally - let it run and stablize for 2 or 3 cycles with the new battery, and see how it go. Keep the "old" battery charged as a spare and carry it with you for the next few days so that you won't be holding a paperweight.
Assumed you are on the CDMA/Verizon side and not using GSM bands - are you using mostly WiFi or 3G, or a mix of both signals - as all of these do affect (depending on signal strength) your battery life, and that your PRL (*228 option 2) are updated on a regular basis. Running background Apps such as FB, Twitter, etc. also do affect how much usable time you get on a charge, as you know.

Have you tried fixing permissions? Could be the issue.
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