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HELP me before I switch to an iPhone

This thing is reallllyyy pissing me off. Before people say "are you happy now, see ya later, or the iPhone sucks"
Their are serious issues with the Android OS and the Battery is the main problem with the EVO.
Now if someone can give me a fix for this I would greatly appreciate it and continue to love using my phone again but untill then Every little thing is going wrong with this phone to make me want to switch.
Here it is:
I am NOT rooted! I have 4G turned off, WIFI, bluetooth, and GPS turned off, I also have the screen brightness set to automatic. I have no widgets on the home screen that require an internet connection, and have all syncing turned off, on everything! that includes contacts, facebook, mail (stock and gmail) weather, and news.
I even have "enable always-on mobile data" turned off.
I am currently using Launcher Pro, but was using ADW launcher before that and then stock 2.1 android (no sense turned on, on all of them)
My battery barely makes it 8 hours without being on low.
under the battery category, for the past week or so plus, I havent really checked into that, So i can't tell you when it started, as been on 100%
So my uptime and my awake time have been the same.
I have turned the phone on and off 5 times already, used a task killer, turned on airplane mode, and no dice.
The only definite fix, is going one by one and deleting an app, turning the phone on and off, and looking at battery usage, I have easily 25 apps and that will take forever. Or doing a hard reset, something I do not want to waste my time doing again, reconfiguring my phone, and reinstalling a bunch of apps and settings.
An example of todays usage, I am not exagerating any of this.
I unplugged it at 10:30 AM, 25 total text messages (going in an out) no phone calls, 4G was on and connected for a total of 2 Minutes.
Now I know if you leave 4G on and you are not connected it kills the battery, but I had it off, turned it on for 2 Minutes because I was in chicago, and wanted to see how fast it was ran 3 speed tests, and turned it off.
I refreshed my email 4 times, That means opening up the mail app, clicking menu and refresh, same thing with facebook, refreshed my news feed 5 times. and at 6:30
I have 2 out of the 5 bars left.
That is absolutely rediculous, I am past my 30 day return time.
An OS that allows certain apps to keep the phone on and make the battery life horrible is rediculous.
This is a list of all apps I have both from the market and off:
advanced task killer
AK notepad
akari
astro
better cut
betterkeyboard
dictionary.com (offical App)
facebook
find my phone
Flikie wallpaper
fox news
handcent sms
keeper
leet speak
live scores
memory trainer
news and weather (from nexus one, but refreshing is on manual)
pass phrase
pda net
picsay pro
qik
ringroid
shazam
speedtest
status notes
texas hold em
tip calculator
tv listings
urban dictionary
zedge
I have notice one thing tho with launcherpro, for some reason when I go into an app or hold down the home button to bring up the multitasking 6 app menu, and then click home after, the setting to come up that asks which home launcher I want
HTC sense or Launcherpro
comes up all the time, like 10 times a day, and I always click choose this action for default and click launcher pro and sure enough after opening a couple apps, and clicking home the box will come up, may be that has something to do with the battery I dont know tho.
If anyone can help me I would greatly appreciate, and you would save an evo from being thrown into a wall.
thanks.

Try out CM6 and I guarantee you'll never even think about an iphone again.

Like he said above.. Root and get cm6.. I can go 2 days easy regular use..
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the iphone sucks

can you post a link to which one you are talking about, because I looked up on android Development and it said the cyanmod or what ever it was was not very stable, so I don't know about that.
And if the iPhone is such a terrible phone, why should I have to root my phone and install a custom ROM in in order for it to work properly, IOS 4 does not have that.

The key is in data if your not using mobile data then use the widget to turn it off til you need it. Or root and flash a custom rom. They have better battery life hands down
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Read the insane battery life thread.
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mjz147 said:
can you post a link to which one you are talking about, because I looked up on android Development and it said the cyanmod or what ever it was was not very stable, so I don't know about that.
And if the iPhone is such a terrible phone, why should I have to root my phone and install a custom ROM in in order for it to work properly, IOS 4 does not have that.
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Yeah it just can't make calls

the iphone sucks

mjz147 said:
can you post a link to which one you are talking about, because I looked up on android Development and it said the cyanmod or what ever it was was not very stable, so I don't know about that.
And if the iPhone is such a terrible phone, why should I have to root my phone and install a custom ROM in in order for it to work properly, IOS 4 does not have that.
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Because i don't have to wrap my phone in Rubber or Duct Tape it for it to make a phone call or maintain a data connection. You were just asking to get flamed by posting this. If you wan't help from people around here, bashing Android and saying "IOS 4 has no problems!!!" isn't going to be your best option.
P.S. Stock Android 2.1 or even Sense UI crushes IOS 4. Maybe it's not the phone....maybe it's the user.

You didn't specifically say that you had Google talk signed out. Turn off auto sign in on that app and it makes a huge difference.
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iphone sucks

I didn't see anyone mention this, not that it's going to be your issue but it could be something to check.
I recall a friend having a severe battery issue and it turned out the stock calendar program was preventing his phone from hibernating and thus being on constantly.
Just something to try, I hope you find out what's up soon. Also not sure if you have a spare battery, but sometimes you can get a dud and the only way to test that is try another battery.

Seriously, if you think iOS4 is better than Android then that's the phone you need. You pretty much just wasted everyone's time with all that.

While I would agree that if you want to get dramatically improved battery life, your best bet is to root it and flash a custom rom, Even when my phone was stock it got much better battery life than yours seems to be getting. I actually ran my phone for for weeks stock, not rooted, so I would have a good baseline of experience when I did start to customize it.
Typically, my phone would last about 10-14 hours before needing to be recharged. That would be with slightly more usage than you indicate, and with data and gps always on, but 4g off, as I don't live in a 4g area.
Now that I am rooted, and am running Fresh 1.0.1 and the fps fix kernel, and a battery saver setcpu profile, the same use gives me more than 50% charge left after running 14-16 hours off the charger.
Personally, it sounds to me like you might have a defective battery. As one of the previous posters said, I would recommend you try the instructions in one of the battery life threads here and if that didn't work, I would take it to the Sprint repair center.

mjz147 said:
can you post a link to which one you are talking about, because I looked up on android Development and it said the cyanmod or what ever it was was not very stable, so I don't know about that.
And if the iPhone is such a terrible phone, why should I have to root my phone and install a custom ROM in in order for it to work properly, IOS 4 does not have that.
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iphone isn't a terrible phone, it just doesn't compare to an EVO.
anything iphone can do, the evo can do - and do it better.
no need to be on wi-fi for a video chat!

Why would you buy a 4.3 inch screen....4g.... and expect awesome battery? Yes it could be better but come-on....if you didn't expect it to have bad battery life....?????????? That's all I can say I just don't understand...android phones normally have bad battery life on top of all that....
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I'm having the same issues as you except that I am rooted. Have an underclocked phone and Baked Snack 9.7
I'm really beginning to think that the people that claim to get 14+ hours of battery life is just a bunch of bs. I do exactly what they do and i get no where near the 18 hours some users claim to get. And for the people bashing the iphone, its not a bad phone, and almost everyone that invests $200 in a phone get a case anyway. And no i'm not bashing the Evo either. Battery life just sucks on it.

mjz147 said:
can you post a link to which one you are talking about, because I looked up on android Development and it said the cyanmod or what ever it was was not very stable, so I don't know about that.
And if the iPhone is such a terrible phone, why should I have to root my phone and install a custom ROM in in order for it to work properly, IOS 4 does not have that.
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No offense, but it seems like you kind of made up your mind already on what you want to do. Iphone 4 is a good phone, but honestly, it gets boring after about a week, if that. Android is so much fun. You don't have to root your phone for it to work properly. Do some research into why batteries drain really fast with this phone. You do realize how big the screen is right? lol. I''l give you ups and downs of both phones.
Iphone 4-
Good
Nice looking phone, OS is smooth, apps.
Bad
Got to watch where you hold it, AT&T (they don't have unlimited data plan), not very much to do with Iphone
Evo
Good
Big screen, Sprint, camera, don't have to be on wi-fi for video calling, fully customizable, even more so if you root it. There are more but tired of typing!
Bad
Battery
Thats just my opinion though. I would have more bad things to say about it if not for Cyanogen. Its like an overgrown Nexus now! Sorry for the long post. lol. If you have any questions on how to root or anything feel free to send me a message or whatever.

mjz147 said:
under the battery category, for the past week or so plus, I havent really checked into that, So i can't tell you when it started, as been on 100%
So my uptime and my awake time have been the same.
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dial *#*#4636#*#*
battery history
partial wake usage
tell me what comes up 1st and 2nd.

Battery Drain Solved

Hope this works for others - I've read the other posts but didn't see this posted as a solution, if so, pardon the miss...
I've been using Android since Cupcake (and on the iPhone since the iPhone 3) and am very well versed in the Android "features" which are in general battery draining.
I've owned both the Nexus and the Nexus S.
After buying the GNX I turned it off, came straight home and charged to full before using it. The first thing I did after turning it on was to clear the cache, force close, and disable the Verizon bloatware, including news and weather.
I had all sync options / apps off, 2 Gmail accounts on, and I broke out in a cold sweat every time I turned the screen on, knowing it was going to kill my battery if I dare use the device for its intended purpose, social streaming, news feed reading, games, Netflix, etc.
Like most I was suffering from an abnormal wake time and "Android OS" was consistently the top battery drain in the Battery Panel within Settings.
700 bucks for a phone that I'm afraid to use (without a 50 foot extension cord nearby) doesn't make a whole lot of sense, given I can use all of the above listed features on my iPhone 4 without thinking twice about my battery.
I went back to the Verizon store where I purchased the phone, showed some screen grabs of the battery life I was getting, and asked for a new device, which was met with resistance - from my perspective it was pretty simple, either exchange the device or I'm gonna return it...
With the new phone I decided to try something different. I still shut it off after the purchase was complete, charged to full before using it, disabled the bloatware etc., but I decided to not accept the OS update.
After using the phone without accepting the update I noticed a marked improvement - the first item listed in the Battery Panel within Settings is either "Phone Idle" or "Screen", depending on usage, and "Android OS" is consistently the 4th item in the list, currently using 16% of my resources, with 14 hrs, 24 min of use and 64% remaining on my battery, and a very acceptable wake time.
I should also add that with both phones I had the "Don't keep activities" check box selected within Settings / Developer Options
Now the only real problem I have is the annoying pop up asking me to install the update with every active screen session, sometimes a few times within each session.
So for now, I'm going to hold off on accepting the update, hope I don't accidentally accept, and wait until I hear how well the next OS update is before accepting it.

Tldr: I wiped/reset the phone but didn't update to 4.0.2. Now Android OS does not keep the phone awake.

Easy way to save battery: Put the phone down everyonce in a while. I get a good 7-10hrs out of it everyday.

Sooooo you turned off multitasking, and denied an update. To all the new users I highly suggest you don't do this. Those are developer settings to test apps and killing multitasking is not gonna be beneficial.
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Oh one more thing... change the title... Your misleading people.
Sent from my Google phone

ChongoDroid said:
Sooooo you turned off multitasking, and denied an update. To all the new users I highly suggest you don't do this. Those are developer settings to test apps and killing multitasking is not gonna be beneficial.
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Yep, that's all I did, I denied the update and there's a night and day difference between how this phone behaves on 4.0.1 vs. the one I had on 4.0.2
I remember the good ol' days, when folks would come to XDA to offer and receive help from each other...

Funny how people think everything was the fix. You got an entirely new device...don't you think just maybe it could had been that, not the update?
This just in setting my wallpaper to the beach boys fixed it for me
( actually I have never had a wake lock issue... not on 4.0.1 4.0.2 or 4.0.3)
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this thread is a waste, and ere i was gettin all hopeful! anyhoo, i heard paul got it fixed?

Grims said:
Funny how people think everything was the fix. You got an entirely new device...don't you think just maybe it could had been that, not the update?
This just in setting my wallpaper to the beach boys fixed it for me
( actually I have never had a wake lock issue... not on 4.0.1 4.0.2 or 4.0.3)
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yeah... so much so that I'm not taking any updates until 4.0.3, and only after folks have had a chance to test it out and see how it performs.
Glad the beach boys fixed your issues, sure it wasn't your Justin Bieber ringtones?

This thread is misleading.
I have 4.0.1 and I have that high Android OS Keep awake time issue.
Again, that issue is not about battery life, but the keep awake of Android OS which is unusual.
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I just disabled google+ and vzw backup. Phone is doing far better on battery.
I also run a flat black bg, but i do the with everything.

ProTip - flash android 1.5 cupcake to your nexus for week long battery life.

[Help][50% SOLVED] LTE = random heavy battery drain aka "plummet"

jeffreii said:
UPDATE/CONFIRMED:
The plummet is back.
After 10 days of plummet-free use with LTE disabled, it has returned after less than 48 hours uptime following my re-enabling of LTE.
For me, I am quite convinced that some LTE bug - perhaps with switching back and forth to HSPA+ - is causing the plummet. Unless some very knowledgeable devs join this discussion and help to find the root cause, I only see two options to avoid this problem:
1) Disable LTE and live with HSPA+ speeds
2) Wait for an OTA update with a fix, assuming Samsung/AT&T know about it
Personally I am sick and tired of wasting my time diagnosing this. I have lost time and enjoyment of my device trying to keep a stable testing environment. I now know the general cause and solution and am satisfied with that.
Thanks to anyone and everyone who helped.
Again, here is the link to my method for disabling LTE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1826409
It's unfortunate that using HSPA+ only also disables 2G, but that's not really a problem for me in Miami.
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Anyone who can help diagnose the cause of this would be my hero. Please read carefully the evidence I already have.
Scenario:
Battery life is great for awhile and then suddenly it will start plummeting for no good reason. It will continue to do so, even if the screen is off and the phone is unused with all tasks closed. It will not stop dropping fast unless I reboot it. Then battery life returns to normal/excellent..a day or so later it starts dropping fast again.
Things I've tried:
-Factory reset - reinstall only most common apps
-Exchanged the device at AT&T - same result
-Monitored with GSAM (Badass) Battery Monitor and Better Battery Stats. No culprit found.
Important notes:
-As per attached screenshot*, I have tested ways to stop the drain without a reboot. Turning off wifi does nothing. Turning off mobile data does nothing. Turning off the radio (airplane mode) is the only way to stop it - but once I turn airplane mode off, it continues to drop quickly. Only a reboot is a working temporary fix.
-The phone itself is reporting the "cell standby" as the major culprit. I am not sure if this is inflated due to the known bug in reporting that data.
-There is something quirky with the "mobile network signal" bar - I am in Miami where signal is strong almost everywhere. The steep decline occurs even at my apartment where I always have 4 or 5 bars of LTE signal. I am almost never in any area where there is no signal, despite what the line indicates.
Attached screenshots:
1 & 2) good battery life followed by a sudden and steep decline
3) the subsequent "test" listed in note # 1 above with the resulting plateau achieved by turning on airplane mode with the drop continuing when airplane mode was disabled
4 & 5) I then charged the device to full overnight and unplugged it in the morning. I let it sit unused for about 2 hours and the battery dropped 25%.
6 & 7) these screenshots are from normal excellent battery life scenario where the "plummeting" battery did not occur
Thank you so much for any help

Since turning on airplane mode stops it my guess is that its a bad radio. Only option would be to exchange it and tell them this is your second defective unit.

DudeWatsThat said:
Since turning on airplane mode stops it my guess is that its a bad radio. Only option would be to exchange it and tell them this is your second defective unit.
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What are the odds of me having two units in a row with the exact same problem, which does not appear to be widespread?
The bad news is that I am past my 30 day exchange window.

jeffreii said:
What are the odds of me having two units in a row with the exact same problem, which does not appear to be widespread?
The bad news is that I am past my 30 day exchange window.
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If you got that unit during your 30 days you should have 30 days for that unit and if you don't then go through manufactures warranty. Unless your willing to play around with roms to see if that solves it.
In terms of odds maybe your ATT store just got a bad batch either that or you have incredibly bad luck but I do know of one other person who had the same problem if I remember correctly.
Sent from my GSIII

DudeWatsThat said:
If you got that unit during your 30 days you should have 30 days for that unit and if you don't then go through manufactures warranty. Unless your willing to play around with roms to see if that solves it.
In terms of odds maybe your ATT store just got a bad batch either that or you have incredibly bad luck but I do know of one other person who had the same problem if I remember correctly.
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My understanding of the return policy, as confirmed by the rep, is that exchanging your device does not reset the 30 days. I would have to go through the manufacturer warranty now, facilitated by AT&T. Much more hassle than just going to the store and swapping it out.
I received my first S III in the mail from AT&T Online. 30 days later I went to one of several local corporate stores and exchanged it. They were definitely not the same batch. This is probably not bad luck and I have heard from several others that they have this same problem...
My next step, after some more logs and troubleshooting, would be to factory wipe again and use the phone stock with no apps for up to a week to see if I can reproduce it. Sounds terrible but I'm willing to do it if it is necessary. Still hoping someone here on XDA can help me pinpoint the problem.
Thanks again for your response.

I get this battery drain maybe once a week, a friend of mine also gets it occasionally, It is very unlikely that our phones are from the same batch, because he got his 2 weeks before i got mine. It seems to be a more widespread problem than we think, and i hope samsung, or someone on XDA, can figure it out and fix it.

jeffreii said:
My understanding of the return policy, as confirmed by the rep, is that exchanging your device does not reset the 30 days. I would have to go through the manufacturer warranty now, facilitated by AT&T. Much more hassle than just going to the store and swapping it out.
I received my first S III in the mail from AT&T Online. 30 days later I went to one of several local corporate stores and exchanged it. They were definitely not the same batch. This is probably not bad luck and I have heard from several others that they have this same problem...
My next step, after some more logs and troubleshooting, would be to factory wipe again and use the phone stock with no apps for up to a week to see if I can reproduce it. Sounds terrible but I'm willing to do it if it is necessary. Still hoping someone here on XDA can help me pinpoint the problem.
Thanks again for your response.
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Do that and remember to do a test using airplane mode if it doesn't loose battery while in airplane mode then there are two theorys then: samsung software bug that affects radio or hardware issue.
It also depends how many "several others" are, remember even 100 people are a minority compared to the millions of units sold.
Keep us updated so we can get to the root of the problem.
Sent from my GSIII

Here's another sample with a Better Battery Stats log attached as well.
I'm going to do another test tonight with airplane mode enabled + another BBS log.

jeffreii said:
Here's another sample with a Better Battery Stats log attached as well.
I'm going to do another test tonight with airplane mode enabled + another BBS log.
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Whats your screen on time, battery stats indicated a deep idle of only 2hrs.
And damn your cell standby % is huge. When I had the cell standby bug it only rose to about 15%.
IMO that high cell standby is not normal even with the bug.

DudeWatsThat said:
Whats your screen on time, battery stats indicated a deep idle of only 2hrs.
And damn your cell standby % is huge. When I had the cell standby bug it only rose to about 15%.
IMO that high cell standby is not normal even with the bug.
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I agree with you, I don't think it's normal even with the bug. Maybe OP should download fix or a rom with the fix if he doesn't want to use the warranty and see if it still tops the charts with the bug fixed.

jeffreii said:
Here's another sample with a Better Battery Stats log attached as well.
I'm going to do another test tonight with airplane mode enabled + another BBS log.
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post your bbs log to the thread here : > Android Development and Hacking > Android Apps and Games > [APP] [30 Jul - V1.9.1] BetterBatteryStats adds battery history back to Android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
you will be helped there for sure.

This has happened to me on several ROMs, but it doesn't happen very often. It does seem to be radio related. The last time it happened, I checked the battery graph and the signal strength was solid green from exactly the time the battery started plummeting. Not sure if that means anything but it's another data point.

Firestar292 said:
I agree with you, I don't think it's normal even with the bug. Maybe OP should download fix or a rom with the fix if he doesn't want to use the warranty and see if it still tops the charts with the bug fixed.
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Strange thing is the bug just reports the % wrong and applying the fix won't actually solve is drainage issues, although if he does apply it and still sees a high percentage its most probably the radio or he could apply it see normal cell % and we be back to square one.
bradld said:
post your bbs log to the thread here : > Android Development and Hacking > Android Apps and Games > [APP] [30 Jul - V1.9.1] BetterBatteryStats adds battery history back to Android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
you will be helped there for sure.
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+1

Search for the gsiff_daemon thread. It sounds like that may be your problem. I don't have the link handy but if you don't find it I'll dig it up for you.
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jcejohnson said:
Search for the gsiff_daemon thread. It sounds like that may be your problem. I don't have the link handy but if you don't find it I'll dig it up for you.
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I agree that its gsiff_daemon bug. I get it on occasion when streaming music through web. Even when I close it will drain the battery quickly. Do a search for that daemon and see if that shows up in battery stats. Usually shown as android system. When you hit refresh under battery stats it usually displays the gsiff name quickly.
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blue265 said:
I agree that its gsiff_daemon bug. I get it on occasion when streaming music through web. Even when I close it will drain the battery quickly. Do a search for that daemon and see if that shows up in battery stats. Usually shown as android system. When you hit refresh under battery stats it usually displays the gsiff name quickly.
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What is gsiff_daemon? I looked in the thread but the info is scattered.

DudeWatsThat said:
Whats your screen on time, battery stats indicated a deep idle of only 2hrs.
And damn your cell standby % is huge. When I had the cell standby bug it only rose to about 15%.
IMO that high cell standby is not normal even with the bug.
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The BBS log was only 2 hours, 38m, as you can see from the extracted data below:
Since 2 h 38 m 8 s
Deep Sleep (): 2 h 24 m 59 s (8699 s) Ratio: 91.7%
Awake (): 13 m 9 s (789 s) Ratio: 8.3%
Screen On (): 40 s (40 s) Ratio: 0.4%
Firestar292 said:
I agree with you, I don't think it's normal even with the bug. Maybe OP should download fix or a rom with the fix if he doesn't want to use the warranty and see if it still tops the charts with the bug fixed.
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Yeah I can see about downloading the fix but that is only a display issue and wouldn't help at all with my battery.
bradld said:
post your bbs log to the thread here : > Android Development and Hacking > Android Apps and Games > [APP] [30 Jul - V1.9.1] BetterBatteryStats adds battery history back to Android
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1179809
you will be helped there for sure.
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I have posted several times in that thread and they tried to help but couldn't find anything...the main suggestion was to try a custom kernel...I'm going to post my latest logs there now though (and in this thread).
EDIT: Here's my new post in that thread:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29716265#post29716265
21cdb said:
This has happened to me on several ROMs, but it doesn't happen very often. It does seem to be radio related. The last time it happened, I checked the battery graph and the signal strength was solid green from exactly the time the battery started plummeting. Not sure if that means anything but it's another data point.
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I noticed the same thing with the mobile network signal bar being solid. I still don't understand why that bar has so many gaps where it appears to show the radio off when it's not...anyways I thought there was a correlation there but have since seen plenty of "plummets" without the solid green mobile network signal bar.
jcejohnson said:
Search for the gsiff_daemon thread. It sounds like that may be your problem. I don't have the link handy but if you don't find it I'll dig it up for you.
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gsiff_daemon is not in my BBS logs...see the new logs I'm about to post.

Ok so I've been continuing my tests from above.
I first charged a bit and then turned off wifi since wlan_rx_wake was a biggie in my BBS log. You can see the log for that period below. Battery continues to plummet as it did before.
I then turned on airplane mode and started a new BBS log. The battery stopped going down. In fact it was one of those situations where the charger mis-reported the actual charge and in nearly two hours time BBS sees the battery as having gone up 1%. That log is also attached.
Also below are screenshots of this whole process where you can see the battery plateau created by airplane mode.
Perhaps we can compare these 3 log files to determine something? I am going to post them in the BBS thread as well.
Thanks again everyone I hope we can get to the bottom of this!

jeffreii said:
Ok so I've been continuing my tests from above.
I first charged a bit and then turned off wifi since wlan_rx_wake was a biggie in my BBS log. You can see the log for that period below. Battery continues to plummet as it did before.
I then turned on airplane mode and started a new BBS log. The battery stopped going down. In fact it was one of those situations where the charger mis-reported the actual charge and in nearly two hours time BBS sees the battery as having gone up 1%. That log is also attached.
Also below are screenshots of this whole process where you can see the battery plateau created by airplane mode.
Perhaps we can compare these 3 log files to determine something? I am going to post them in the BBS thread as well.
Thanks again everyone I hope we can get to the bottom of this!
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I couldn't find anything between all 3 that is consistent and have enough % of use to screw up your battery.
I'm curious, what is your theory on what might be the cause?

DudeWatsThat said:
I couldn't find anything between all 3 that is consistent and have enough % of use to screw up your battery.
I'm curious, what is your theory on what might be the cause?
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Thanks again for looking. Honestly I am assuming it's a bug deep in the software or something...either that or one of my apps.
First I thought it was an app. Then I thought it was hardware. Now I am just trying to re-evaluate and look at all of the evidence.
Part of me wants to just reboot every night and forget about it...

[Q] Worth upgrading to NF4? What's new?

I currently have NB4.
What's new in NF4? I know it has the VoLTE but that's not in my area so nothing for me(yet).
Are there any improvements?
I guess what I'm trying to ask is. What are the pros and con's of upgrading from NB4 to NF4?
I also run w03 slimkat. Is it compatible? It shows its compatible with 4.4 BL. Just not sure if that's updated to include NF4 BL.
thanks and sorry for being a noob.

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Rick7C2 said:
I currently have NB4.
What's new in NF4? I know it has the VoLTE but that's not in my area so nothing for me(yet).
Are there any improvements?
I guess what I'm trying to ask is. What are the pros and con's of upgrading from NB4 to NF4?
I also run w03 slimkat. Is it compatible? It shows its compatible with 4.4 BL. Just not sure if that's updated to include NF4 BL.
thanks and sorry for being a noob.
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I have no idea as to what exactly is "new" in NF4 but take it from me,
if there wasn't any improvements then why would Samsung waste their
time, money and effort with the NF4 or any other future updates?
There are no "cons" to upgrading NF4 or any future official updates.

Misterjunky said:
I have no idea as to what exactly is "new" in NF4 but take it from me,
if there wasn't any improvements then why would Samsung waste their
time, money and effort with the NF4 or any other future updates?
There are no "cons" to upgrading NF4 or any future official updates.
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Of course there can be cons. Thats a laughable statement. Until it's reported the update is fine, you can have broken root, locked down bootloader (not as likely on T-Mobile) a bad build that causes bad battery drain. You must be new to the phone rooting and roming world to say "There are no "cons" to upgrading NF4 or any future official updates"

I don't want any fights started. Please keep it casual.
With that being said. Yes there can be some pros and con's.
Like I said before I know that it includes VoLTE. That's the main feature. However That is not available in my area.
What I would like to know. Is there better internet connectivity? How's battery life. My biggest problem with T-Mobile in my area is it keeps dropping from H+ to 3G. 3G and below are like being in airplane mode. I end up having to disconnect and reconnect to get H+ back. Does NF4 fix this? If not Is there any tricks/mods to help with this issue. Or is it just ****ty network in my area?
and again I will continue to use W03 SlimKat. currently running V23 waiting on V25.
I'm looking for people who have personally updated there phone to NF4 and can give me details on how well its running.
Thanks

Rick7C2 said:
I don't want any fights started. Please keep it casual.
With that being said. Yes there can be some pros and con's.
Like I said before I know that it includes VoLTE. That's the main feature. However That is not available in my area.
What I would like to know. Is there better internet connectivity? How's battery life. My biggest problem with T-Mobile in my area is it keeps dropping from H+ to 3G. 3G and below are like being in airplane mode. I end up having to disconnect and reconnect to get H+ back. Does NF4 fix this? If not Is there any tricks/mods to help with this issue. Or is it just ****ty network in my area?
and again I will continue to use W03 SlimKat. currently running V23 waiting on V25.
I'm looking for people who have personally updated there phone to NF4 and can give me details on how well its running.
Thanks
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For me, battery performance increased noticeably and it seems like connectivity is better. At my house it used to always switch from 4glte to 4g and since the update it holds the lte connection better. Sunday morning there was a quake in the bay area and since then data has been weird. ..but up to that things where just buzzing along. I came from NB4 and like i said i noticed worthy improvements.
***BTW i did a full wipe in recovery, powered down, pulled battery, booted into download mode and odin'd the full firmware file, everything except External SD.

louforgiveno said:
For me, battery performance increased noticeably and it seems like connectivity is better. At my house it used to always switch from 4glte to 4g and since the update it holds the lte connection better. Sunday morning there was a quake in the bay area and since then data has been weird. ..but up to that things where just buzzing along. I came from NB4 and like i said i noticed worthy improvements.
***BTW i did a full wipe in recovery, powered down, pulled battery, booted into download mode and odin'd the full firmware file, everything except External SD.
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Thanks, Based on this information I have decided to go ahead and update to NF4. Running W03 SlimKat V24 sofar so good. Once Google gets done restoring my apps I will turn off WiFi and update this thread with my findings.

I know many people claim better battery life after updating to 4.4, but I don't see it. I just updated about a week ago from 4.3 (MI7) to 4.4 (NF4) and battery life is similar at best, but mostly worse.Not only that, but charging also takes much longer. Normally my battery would fully charge in about 2.5 hours, but couple nights ago it took 5 hours to go from 10% to 82%. I went back to sleep and finally was fully charged after additional 3 hours, but then as soon as I turn it on, went down to 97%. I never seen that before. I run 0228 code and discharged to 0 and then back to 100%, so hopefully that will calibrate battery better, but still just last night phone was at 100% before sleep and in the morning down to 80%. Normally on 4.3 I would loose 3% to 4% overnight. I just hope it's temporary and will improve after settling down, otherwise i will need to run some serious diagnostics and fix it. Antutu also seem slower, last time I run it on 4.3 I got 37083, under 4.4 I barely got 35000.

pete4k said:
I know many people claim better battery life after updating to 4.4, but I don't see it. I just updated about a week ago from 4.3 (MI7) to 4.4 (NF4) and battery life is similar at best, but mostly worse.Not only that, but charging also takes much longer. Normally my battery would fully charge in about 2.5 hours, but couple nights ago it took 5 hours to go from 10% to 82%. I went back to sleep and finally was fully charged after additional 3 hours, but then as soon as I turn it on, went down to 97%. I never seen that before. I run 0228 code and discharged to 0 and then back to 100%, so hopefully that will calibrate battery better, but still just last night phone was at 100% before sleep and in the morning down to 80%. Normally on 4.3 I would loose 3% to 4% overnight. I just hope it's temporary and will improve after settling down, otherwise i will need to run some serious diagnostics and fix it. Antutu also seem slower, last time I run it on 4.3 I got 37083, under 4.4 I barely got 35000.
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Not my experience at all. Battery drops maybe 2-3% overnight. Stays at 100% longer than it had and charges plenty fast from 1% to 100% way under 5 hrs, but i never really timed it yet i can say it was under 3 hrs and i remember being surprised at how quickly it got to 80' something percent. Every month or so I run my phone down to 1% just to help the battery cause I'm usually on a charger and rarely get below 50%. Maybe a good wiping might tune things up for you.

louforgiveno said:
Not my experience at all. Battery drops maybe 2-3% overnight. Stays at 100% longer than it had and charges plenty fast from 1% to 100% way under 5 hrs, but i never really timed it yet i can say it was under 3 hrs and i remember being surprised at how quickly it got to 80' something percent. Every month or so I run my phone down to 1% just to help the battery cause I'm usually on a charger and rarely get below 50%. Maybe a good wiping might tune things up for you.
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Heres some pics....stock kernel fyi

I believe you, you're not the first person claiming better battery. I don't want to wipe, too much headache to restore and settings and games in progress, also my kids are on my account, so either no automatic reinstall (BTW how do I stop it), or a lot of deleting kiddie games, already went with this process once before, not fun. Probably something simple, since I'm stock rooted and always been on my Note3.

pete4k said:
I believe you, you're not the first person claiming better battery. I don't want to wipe, too much headache to restore and settings and games in progress, also my kids are on my account, so either no automatic reinstall (BTW how do I stop it), or a lot of deleting kiddie games, already went with this process once before, not fun. Probably something simple, since I'm stock rooted and always been on my Note3.
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yup, its a coin toss.....once I saw the stability that comes with full wiping I can't not do it, stopped me from being a flashaholic. Titanium Backup can backup/restore your apps but settings/shortcuts/widgets etc have to all be set back up....I take screen shots of all my home screens to aid the process of getting back to normalcy....gotta weigh the pros and cons

Hello,
I'm still using jellybean 4.3 worth the upgrade to Kit Kat?

MasterKaiser said:
Hello,
I'm still using jellybean 4.3 worth the upgrade to Kit Kat?
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That is extremely debatable, there are plenty of people who feel either way, i suggest reading what different people have to say to help base your opinion.

pete4k said:
I run 0228 code
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What code is this? I don't see it among the list of "secret" codes entered for Samsung devices.

Anonymously_Unknown said:
What code is this? I don't see it among the list of "secret" codes entered for Samsung devices.
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it shows battery info, also there is a button on bottom, if pressed it changes battery charge level, so it was speculated it does some quick recalibration, but as with all other codes no one knows for sure. Sure this is in some secret code lists, but i don't think there is a list that have them all, otherwise they wouldn't be secret anymore. LOL
There were few threads about this code in past, but i don't remember where now.

Well sofar everything is great. Network still gets stuck in 3G and I have to airplane mode to get H+ again. However it seems like its not doing this as often.
Better life is the same which is good because battery life was awesome before the update.
I will update if anything changes.

Eric214 said:
Of course there can be cons. Thats a laughable statement. Until it's reported the update is fine, you can have broken root, locked down bootloader (not as likely on T-Mobile) a bad build that causes bad battery drain. You must be new to the phone rooting and roming world to say "There are no "cons" to upgrading NF4 or any future official updates"
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That is exactly why I froze my updater and stayed on jb4.3.
Now that KK has been out for a while and should have bugs fixed, what are the pros for updating from jb to kk?

I didn't update for long time mostly because of SD card issues, which could be fixed, but needed root, but again, root would trip knox. Now that we can root without breaking knox, I finally updated. Personally didn't see much: people claimed better battery, for me is little worse, many claimed faster snappier response, I don't see that either, on the other hand, so far haven't seen any SD card issues neither, so didn't even need the fix yet. One advantage, I already made my first VOLTE, so it works and it's on in my area and you need KitKat for that.
Add to this probably few security fixes and some tweaks under the hood and probably that's it. IMO, the update did not fix any issues for me, except wifi calling that broke recently, but I didn't have any other issues as well, but at the same time the update didn't break anything major either, so it's pretty much wash, unless you need VOLTE.
Note 4 comes out in few weeks, so that was my backup plan in case update was messed up, but as it is Note4 needs to win my heart on it's own merits.

[Q] Anything to be done about wakelocks

So I was on 5.1.1 rooted for a few months and loved it. The battery life was great, and whenever it would get bad, I could find the wakelock that was causing it, and kill it. A couple of weeks ago, I tried to upgrade to 6.01 and ended up screwing up root on my phone. Despite many attempts to get it back, I was unable to. I finally gave up. Originally, I was going to keep the Note 4 for as long as it stayed alive. Now that I can't get root back, I will be moving on to something else. Not sure what it will be right now.
In the meantime, I have 6.01 on my phone and I hate it. I literally have three non-stock apps on my phone - Fitbit, RSA Token, and Package Disabler Pro. I used PDP to get rid of all of the bloatware crap that VZW and Samsung force on the phones, and left everything else alone. I have one gmail account that is checked. I shut off bluetooth and location. I unplugged my phone this morning and other than looking at a few email messages, I left it alone. Within four hours, the battery had gone down to 72%. Because this phone has no root, I literally have nothing to go on, except for the battery app on the phone. I looked at it and it had 10 minutes of screen on time. Other than that, it just had phone standby and android system. The app did show that the phone was pretty much awake the whole four hours. So somewhere, I have a nasty wakelock going on.
Anyone have any suggestions what might be going on, or how I might figure it out? Aside from the three apps that I've installed, it is 100 percent stock. I really miss having my phone rooted. I used to get days out of my battery. Now it barely lasts a whole day just sitting there unused.
I am so sick of Android and these stupid and impossible to troubleshoot wakelocks. I've been using Android since the Evo, and the only time it's been anything except a battery sucking nightmare experience is when I've been able to root my phone and take controls of it.

I think it's the 6.x firmware on the phone . laggy as hell. I've been using partial wake lock to keep it responsive which if course eats the battery. Verizon rep said a lot of ppl have been complaining about it. I've factory reset and cleared cache with little to no improvement .only 2.5 weeks until my note 8 arrives and cleared m done with this laggy phone