I would post in the Flash tools thread but XDA wont let me.
I was reading the Xperia Z threads and I saw people talking about loosing their DRM Keys forever if they unlocked the bootloader.
So, If I unlock the ZL boot loader using the flashtool method will the DRM keys disappear forever?
What will those DRM keys affect?
I need to know, before I buy it and I need a replacement phone now. I've only dealt with phones that have unlocked boot loaders.
I'm not quite sure but MAYBE.there is a way of backing them up? Just taking a shot in the dark.
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From what I've researched, this is a Sony specific thing. I guess it only breaks Sony DRM content.
I can live with that.
I wonder how you go about backing them up.
A bigger question I think is since the unlocktool uses the official Sony method, does Sony know you've unlocked the phone, and since this voids your warranty, will they not honor say a defective camera because the bootloader was unlocked..
I used to dealing with Nexus but I need a new phone and I really like this phone.
Well Asus does a similar thing with the transformer series. Their boot loader unlocker tool instantly voids at least the software warranty and flags the tablet. So... its possible.
Oh BTW: I got my tablet in a very bad bricked state and luckily bought a GameStop warranty. They gave me a new one on spot so that was great!
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You can backup your DRM keys, but you must root.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2235936
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Just got my One X today after coming from the Galaxy Nexus.
I normaly switch phones every 3-4 month`s (i get bored fast ) and rooted most of them.
Read about rooting the one x and it scares me that the loss of warranty by unlocking the bootloader through htcdev is permanent. It`s stupid imo that flashing an official RUU doesn`t restore the warranty, so i`ll guess i will not root this one.
But that said i must say it is quite fast and sense feels lighter and less prominent than pervious versions.
Also the screen-on time is quite impressive, almost 3 hours already and 30 % power left.
Hope to enjoy it while it lasts and hope be learning from you guys on this forum
damn, are you sure you can't get back warrenty by relocking the boatloader? (i am already rooted )
I'm gonna root it in 2013 when my warranty ends.
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damn, are you sure you can't get back warrenty by relocking the boatloader? (i am already rooted )
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unlock and you are still covered. i have send my phone in for repairs and it is unlocked. hardware issues you are covered for example if the screen starts coming off all of a sudden you are covered and etc. but say you overclocked your phone and the motherboard got fried then you are on your own. so basically here it goes
you are covered for hardware issues but anything software related that you might have flashed upon the phone you are not covered
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I'm gonna root it in 2013 when my warranty ends.
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I need root with every new phone, even if It's just restore my titanium backup from the previous phone. I don't think It's fair I should loose warranty because of that.
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I need root with every new phone, even if It's just restore my titanium backup from the previous phone. I don't think It's fair I should loose warranty because of that.
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if you actually read my post just above it states that only hardware related issues your warranty will be intact if you was to unlock the bootloader through HTC dev and there are threads already here regarding this issue if you actually took the time to search regarding what you are moaning about. But hey what do i care if you unlock your phone or not.
Wondering about HTC's extremely vague message at htcdev.com. "unlocking bootloader may void part or all of your warranty" whereas under the q&a, etc, it sounds more like if you brick your device they won't be responsible. How void is the warranty after bootloader unlock?
i'm assuming there's no way to relock it later.. been out of the ROM flashing scene for a while, so can someone advise me on this?
From what I heard it fully voids it. Even if you lock it again it says re-locked.
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There are mixed comments on this matter. Some have managed to get their hardware issues fixed on unlocked phones. BUT its safe to assume unlocking boot loader completely voids warranty unless you get an official confirmation from your regional HTC office stating otherwise.
Alright thanks
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Bricked One X
Hi All,
I bricked my One X being a noob I then relocked the bootloader (it said relocked) sent the phone off to O2 under warranty they tried to charge me £178.99 for the repair apparently it was "physical damage" i complained as the phone was immaculate and o2 replaced it free of charge!
..well hello new One X.. I've not stumped up the courage to root this one yet just encase!
http://dl4.htc.com/Web_materials/Manual/Warranty/Android/0525_B_WarrantyEULA_76x126_N-EU.pdf
Certainly reading their "Northern Europe" Limited Warranty Statement it would appear that the warranty still applies for hardware issues (section 4), and no where in section 7 does it say it will be voided by unlocking the bootloader.
ZM
Indeed. Havnt had problems with my one x but the nexus1 was also by HTC and after unlocking warranty was fine as long as
The problem was hardware
I had relocked the boot loader and was running stock software
Meaning if you relock then flash an ruu. You should be OK unless you caused the damage
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In theory and probably UK consumer law it won't void it but HTC appear to be being [email protected] about it in the UK...
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I dropped my hox to t-mobile store here in the UK to get send for repair, the GPS was all over the place. The phone was unlocked but still on stock rom. I got a txt 6 days later saying that the phone was ready for collection. It came back unlocked, wiped, and still with cw recovery. They didn't charge me a penny and GPS looks like its been fixed.
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Right, I have a R800i aka Xperia play from O2-UK
I have BL Unlock allowed: no (guessable from the title)
Before I take the plunge of paying $15 of my cash to some guy whom just happens to have bought the SETool box I want to 'verify' that all the Legends around the various myths are lies and that I coud'nt have avoided spending $15.
Firstly, a while ago I saw a guy post up that he also had a super-annoying-sony-carrier-love-locked-bootloader and he used S1Tool and unlocked it. Is this true? Any experiences? Here's the Original thread
Next, I came across several sites fastgsm and wotanserver, fonefunshop - both offered to do the service but required you to have 12W12 thing on the back. I have higher - 11W46 in fact.
Any other rumours? anyone?
I have it SIM UNLOCKED. And no matter how many times I talk to O2 the support is useless - they say check PC Companion and other stuff.
I'm ready to part with a maximum of $10. It's not like the $5 will kill me it's just I don't want to pay some random guy money cos you know - he'll run off with a joyful face and if it then turns out his hickary and ajigary did'nt work I'll be back at square one only with $15 less cash
Even if it say no, if you plug in the device when its off while holding the search, and the blue light turns on, then you maybe likely still be able to unlock it. If not, then you'll have to pay. Out side of those website which I haven't tried, there are only two person I am aware of that provide this unlocking server and they both are professional. Also I don't think they make any profit from it, though someone else will know better about this.
I used Wotan server and within 5 minutes of paying 7.99 EUR I had an unlocked boot loader
Quick easy and simple
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I have an r800i and was able to unlock its bootloader on my own without paying anything. I used the method wherein you'll stick a paper clip and wiring thing, just googled bootloader unlock and was able to get the 3 method to do so and did the best out of 3. Back then even if my bootloader is unlocked, it won't brick via OTA update. It was in youtube.
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Should also mention my boot loader unlock status was no
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eksasol said:
Even if it say no, if you plug in the device when its off while holding the search, and the blue light turns on, then you maybe likely still be able to unlock it. If not, then you'll have to pay. Out side of those website which I haven't tried, there are only two person I am aware of that provide this unlocking server and they both are professional. Also I don't think they make any profit from it, though someone else will know better about this.
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No blue light . I think I know the two people you're talking about
Xperia Unlock Service being one
and the other PhoneUnlockServer
As I said I'm prepared to pay it's just I would feel way more secure paying someone like wotanserver rather than a guy or girl (That I know literally nothing about other than he/she unlocks phones)
ILikeTheWayYouMove2 said:
I used Wotan server and within 5 minutes of paying 7.99 EUR I had an unlocked boot loader
Quick easy and simple
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What does your sticker under the battery say? I mean the **W** mine goes 11W46 (Meaning it was made in 2011 in the 46th week )
Wotan server says you need less than 12W12 for their trick to work. SO am I right in assuming it will work for me? Any experiences with 11W46? 12W12 should mean it was made in the year 2012 and in the 12th week. That should mean mine is earlier right?
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No blue light . I think I know the two people you're talking about
Xperia Unlock Service being one
and the other PhoneUnlockServer
As I said I'm prepared to pay it's just I would feel way more secure paying someone like wotanserver rather than a guy or girl (That I know literally nothing about other than he/she unlocks phones)
What does your sticker under the battery say? I mean the **W** mine goes 11W46 (Meaning it was made in 2011 in the 46th week )
Wotan server says you need less than 12W12 for their trick to work. SO am I right in assuming it will work for me? Any experiences with 11W46? 12W12 should mean it was made in the year 2012 and in the 12th week. That should mean mine is earlier right?
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Yeh you should be good mine was like 11w11 or something like that but its so easy using wotan and cheaper and they have a good customer service
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ILikeTheWayYouMove2 said:
Yeh you should be good mine was like 11w11 or something like that but its so easy using wotan and cheaper and they have a good customer service
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Hey, did you use Testpoint or was it software based? I'll probably try it this week sometime anyway but just curious.
Was test point but there's a video tutorial showing you what to do its pretty fool proof
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Was test point but there's a video tutorial showing you what to do its pretty fool proof
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YEs if you download the unlock tool for the xperia play on wotanserver.com it has an embedded video detailing what to do.
There! Thats what i used to unlock my BL the test point, look for bootloader unlock xperia play on youtube, theres a link on where to download software so you can do it on your own and without paying service wherein you have to be in teamview. Anyone confident enough can unlock thier own device using this method.
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Took the plunge of wotanserver.
So i paid Wotanserver €8 (£7 (or equivalent in local currency))
PayPal immediately messaged me saying that "You sent a payment of €7.99 EUR to WahWai Electronic Technology Limited ([email protected])" FastGSM hmmmmmm........ Doesn't it ring a bell.
Anyway the setup was painless, literally open the setup file. All the drivers will be installed along the way of the install procedure. Handy.
Then you open up the thing and tell it your phone model it goes OK, shows you a little video how to connect the testpoints (Calls it TP to GND Connection presumably pronounced TiiPe too GRRRRRnd) Anyway, connect the phone as shown, it goes oh yeah, phone detected checks your account balance and does the BL unlocking.
The monetary transfer literally took no time at all (Excl the time I spent typing in my PayPal details)and the actuall process took less than 10s (no joke)
If you consider using wotanserver though try to do the whole process without credits so you know if your phone works to avoid disappointment after you paid - Select model and connect it the softwre will say 'checking account' and then say not enough credits if it can unlock the phone but won't due to insufficient money. Try it first, pay it and do it again later.
Overall it worked! My phone is now unlocked the bootloder has a version of r9******* (not censored just can't remember) and even the little BL unlock allowed status has been set to yes :laugh:
Now just need to get CWM on there and flash a decent ROM. But that's a different issue.
Thanks for all your help guys (and girls)
Hey all,
I want to call HTC and get them to fix my phone (hopefully free). It's under warranty and after the JB update it is simply unresponsive. I've tried all kinds of roms, stock RUU, etc, no fix. So maybe it's a hardware thing. Either way, I want to know how to get them to think I haven't broken my warranty (the global warranty).
So, i install stock RUU and lock the bootloader, but don't they know that I unlocked it in the first place?
Anyone who's worked with them, please let me know how to deal with them and make it seem like I haven't flashed the crap out of my phone.
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Hey all,
I want to call HTC and get them to fix my phone (hopefully free). It's under warranty and after the JB update it is simply unresponsive. I've tried all kinds of roms, stock RUU, etc, no fix. So maybe it's a hardware thing. Either way, I want to know how to get them to think I haven't broken my warranty (the global warranty).
So, i install stock RUU and lock the bootloader, but don't they know that I unlocked it in the first place?
Anyone who's worked with them, please let me know how to deal with them and make it seem like I haven't flashed the crap out of my phone.
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what is the problem that makes you send it for repair? If it's a hardware problem then it's them who are going to fool you.
currently the only way to fool them is S-Off the phone, which is not possible.
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Vcek said:
what is the problem that makes you send it for repair? If it's a hardware problem then it's them who are going to fool you.
currently the only way to fool them is S-Off the phone, which is not possible.
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Well I stated the problem in the original thread. It's unresponsive, screen flickers, etc. I'm looking for someone that's sent a phone to them that has had a bootloader unclocked and relocked and still got the warranty.
I sent my HTC Sensation away when the touchscreen became inop, but my telco was the one that approved the repair and HTC's local agent did the repair, and that was s-off, unlocked and rooted; got it back repaired and with the exact same data as when it left.
Mind you I'm in the backwater the world calls Oz.
I sent my HOX twice with "Relocked" bootloader for wifi and "screen flex" problem, and they have done no problem!
The 80-90% of the relocked devices with HW issues will be repaired with no problems.
Obviously if your problem is an SW software they will NEVER repair your phone
Hi,
Some of you may recognize this issue, and I apologize if I annoy some people by making this thread, but I'm really running out of options.
I own Xperia Play r800i. It's rooted, but bootloader is locked, preventing me from installing any custom roms. Unfortunately, official unlock is not possible with this phone, as service menu has the infamous "Bootloader Unlock Allowed: No" setting and I have no clue how to get rid of it.
One major problem is the amount of confusion and disinformation running amok in the internet. Depending on where you look for info, you will get answers wildly varied. Some people will say it's possible, some say it's not, some say there's a program that can do it automatically for you, others will say that the whole thing is outright impossible and suggest buying a new phone. Some say Sony can do it, for free, others will send you on your way to mobile operator, who can unlock it for a fee.
I also heard about the "testpoint method", which involves pressing a paperclip on the dots on the inside of your phone and then connect it to the wire or something... and attach it to the battery? Or terminal? I'm a bit confused about this thing. The only guide I found (on XDA) is a bit inprecise and one of the pictures is missing.
While researching, I found a site with a tool that supposedly can unlock Bootloader in this case. It's here: "bootloader-unlock-allowed-no-solution.blogspot.com". People behind it claim that it works with cases like mine. To be honest, something is not right here, and I feel it may be a scam. Of course, internet remains silent about this site.
The questions and answers on this very forum covers this case and suggests contacting member "Alejandrissimo", who can supposedly solve this issue for a fee. I've tried to contact him via email and have yet to receive a sign of life from him. Additionally, his site mentioned in the topic appears to be dead.
Please help me. I'm running out of ideas. I'm prepared to pay if I have to, and the last thing I'd wanna do is to abandon this phone because I can't unlock it. I fell in love with XPlay, but deficit of power and its extremely sluggish and outdated stock rom are a very major issue here.
Alright, problem solved. I'll post it for anybody facing similar problems in the future.
First off, from what I learned, the site "bootloader-unlock-allowed-no-solution.blogspot.com" appears to be a scam. Don't bother going there - it's not gonna help.
Many people from various forums point to "Alejandrissimo" member of this forum, and supposedly, he can unlock bootloader in this situation over the internet, if you pay him. At this point I still got no reply from him, after attempting to contact him by e-mail, XDA forum private message, or even Google Hangouts.
Running out of ideas, I decided to contact local GSM repair centers, and I found one which said they can try unlocking it. For a very small fee (translating to something like less than 15$) and after an hour of attempting various methods, the guy at the repair center finally managed to unlock bootloader on my phone with testpoint method and the X Unlock program. The settting at the service menu changed to "Bootloader Unlock Allowed: Yes" and I've succesfully connected the phone to PC in fastboot and bootloader modes (green LED and blue LED respectively).
Case solved. Thread can be locked.
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Alright, problem solved. I'll post it for anybody facing similar problems in the future.
First off, from what I learned, the site "bootloader-unlock-allowed-no-solution.blogspot.com" appears to be a scam. Don't bother going there - it's not gonna help.
Many people from various forums point to "Alejandrissimo" member of this forum, and supposedly, he can unlock bootloader in this situation over the internet, if you pay him. At this point I still got no reply from him, after attempting to contact him by e-mail, XDA forum private message, or even Google Hangouts.
Running out of ideas, I decided to contact local GSM repair centers, and I found one which said they can try unlocking it. For a very small fee (translating to something like less than 15$) and after an hour of attempting various methods, the guy at the repair center finally managed to unlock bootloader on my phone with testpoint method and the X Unlock program. The settting at the service menu changed to "Bootloader Unlock Allowed: Yes" and I've succesfully connected the phone to PC in fastboot and bootloader modes (green LED and blue LED respectively).
Case solved. Thread can be locked.
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The testpoint method or the s1tool method as its properly called is the easiest method. Why does this work? Well in the Xperia 2011 and all phones there is a peice of code called a flag this flag checks bootloader unlock allowed no. 2011 Xperia have a point in the battery are which if connected to ground will temporarily remove this flag. Which will allow you to flash custom firmware in the form of ftf after the but custom firmware is only in. . Img? No LoOpy made a thread containing most firmwares in. Ftf so they can be flashed. X Unlock will unlock everything completely if you do s1 on Xperia play. Wonder if this works with r800x. Anyway there are actually MANY MANY MANY many threads on this subject but it is always nice to have more as looking through old fossilized threads is so annoying Alejandrissimo has been a dead member since 2013 no idea where's he's gotten do but he clearly doesn't do anything XDA related anymore almost none of the devs in 2011 will grace got with an answer for whatever reason. Either they've been annoyed to death with repetitive questions or they just got tired of it either way here's a list
Bin4ry will sometimes answer
Alejandrissimo never
Condi yes but just to say hi
Blagus no
Doomlord almost never and if he does it will be in yes or no fashion extremely curt or irritated.
Androxyde never not even on Twitter
The maker of s1tool will sometimes answer.
Very annoying but anyway that's how she goes, sometimes she goes sometimes she doesn't cause that's the way she goes bubbles
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The testpoint method or the s1tool method as its properly called is the easiest method. Why does this work? Well in the Xperia 2011 and all phones there is a peice of code called a flag this flag checks bootloader unlock allowed no. 2011 Xperia have a point in the battery are which if connected to ground will temporarily remove this flag. Which will allow you to flash custom firmware in the form of ftf after the but custom firmware is only in. . Img? No LoOpy made a thread containing most firmwares in. Ftf so they can be flashed. X Unlock will unlock everything completely if you do s1 on Xperia play. Wonder if this works with r800x. Anyway there are actually MANY MANY MANY many threads on this subject but it is always nice to have more as looking through old fossilized threads is so annoying Alejandrissimo has been a dead member since 2013 no idea where's he's gotten do but he clearly doesn't do anything XDA related anymore almost none of the devs in 2011 will grace got with an answer for whatever reason. Either they've been annoyed to death with repetitive questions or they just got tired of it either way here's a list
Bin4ry will sometimes answer
Alejandrissimo never
Condi yes but just to say hi
Blagus no
Doomlord almost never and if he does it will be in yes or no fashion extremely curt or irritated.
Androxyde never not even on Twitter
The maker of s1tool will sometimes answer.
Very annoying but anyway that's how she goes, sometimes she goes sometimes she doesn't cause that's the way she goes bubbles
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Thanks for your reply. Well, first off, from what I've learned, s1tool would not work at all with this case. It only works with "Bootloader Unlock Allowed: Yes" from what I know.
Don't know about other phones, but for owners of r800i (or just anything else equipped with test points) facing similar problem I had - unless you own X Unlock or SETool2, just bring your phone to a GSM repair service and ask them to unlock it for you - it's the most surefire way, and this kind of service should be very cheap. Be careful though - make sure those guys know what you're talking about and they know what they are doing, as this is a very obscure and rare problem.
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Thanks for your reply. Well, first off, from what I've learned, s1tool would not work at all with this case. It only works with "Bootloader Unlock Allowed: Yes" from what I know.
Don't know about other phones, but for owners of r800i (or just anything else equipped with test points) facing similar problem I had - unless you own X Unlock or SETool2, just bring your phone to a GSM repair service and ask them to unlock it for you - it's the most surefire way, and this kind of service should be very cheap. Be careful though - make sure those guys know what you're talking about and they know what they are doing, as this is a very obscure and rare problem.
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You are very incorrect my freind. S1tool is a small subset of setool. It's SPECIFIC PURPOSE is to unlock bootloader allowed: no phones that's what it does. Using the testpoint temporarily removes the bootloader unlock allowed no flag and allows you to unlock the bootloader. Which is what I explained and you failed to understand for some reason. The bootloader status will still say no but it will be unlocked on 2011 phones before 12w31days. The advantage of s1tool is that it preserves drm by having the phone say bootloader unlock allowed no while still being unlocked. If your a noob like yourself than taking it to a service is a good idea if there is one around.
It's how I unlocked my first Android phone, the play and a few others. Your way of doing it is all well and good if there is someone who does this service in your area.
Services like xunlocker are garbage and often freeze and take your money then when you ask for a refund they are more silent then death. Setool if you want to do it yourself will cost 100$ dollars as that is how much the hardware costs. This problem is also not rare as ALL network locked phones will not allow you to unlock the bootloader. However once you have paid for the phone in full you can take it to the store and they will network unlock it for 50$ you can also at the same time have a technician unlock the bootloader which is by far the easiest way to have this done.
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I don't know how different the GSM variants are, but four out of the six r800x units I've owned (All four are Verizon branded) all reported the bootlocker unlock status as "No" yet they all were unlockable after running fastboot with the command the Sony Mobile site generated.
One of them I thought was actually being truthful since I couldn't get it to unlock on the first attempt, but realized it was due to accidentally entering a lower case hex digit in the MEID on the Sony web form (Bad coding on their part: case should be irrelevant for hexadecimal). Once I ran it with all caps the generated code unlocked it fine.