Hi there
Firstly i am a very heavy user of my PDA's but not very technical & apologies for long post, but cant find the answers anywhere else on this site.
Have been using HTC SIM free handsets for approx 4.5 Years now, and been using a HTC TyTN II for the last year, updated the ROM from WM6.0 to WM 6.1 then everything started going wrong so decided to spend the £500 to jump to the HTC Touch Pro 2 but am very frustrated and almost at the point of going back to the TyTN II or going to another brand of phone as none of the software that i had on my TyTN II works with the Touch Pro 2 WM 6.1, as follows:
1. TomTom Navigator 6 does not work but works on TyTN II WM 6.1?
2. TomTom Navigator 7 (Tried it & HTC Confirmed it will not work either)
3. MS Voice Command or any other voice command software does not work
4. Many other MUST HAVE programs i had on TyTN II WM6.1 also will not work now
5. Company supplied software wont work either,
6. It also wont work with my Landrover Freelander 2 PTI kit, so am forced to go back to a BT Headset
Surely PDA software OS 6.1 cant be that different from version 6.0 in my experience with the TyTN II as 6.1 just had small enhancements to 6.0?
I at least need some navigation & voice command software to work on the Touch Pro 2 as it just can not be operated safely whilst moving otherwise, and there is no point in having it in the first place if i can't get these two software types to work, which is a big problem for me.
Does anyone know what software does work, although i think it is the HTC TouchFlo Skin that is the problem with other programs i have tried this weekend, as it does not allow third part software to be displayed on the home screen easily, even google apps toolbar has probs, does this sound feasible?
Can anyone help me out with this or did i buy the wrong phone maybe a Touch Pro would have been better as closer to my TyTN II layout and functions?
Thanks in advance
Alex
alexsimmons said:
Hi there
Firstly i am a very heavy user of my PDA's but not very technical & apologies for long post, but cant find the answers anywhere else on this site.
Have been using HTC SIM free handsets for approx 4.5 Years now, and been using a HTC TyTN II for the last year, updated the ROM from WM6.0 to WM 6.1 then everything started going wrong so decided to spend the £500 to jump to the HTC Touch Pro 2 but am very frustrated and almost at the point of going back to the TyTN II or going to another brand of phone as none of the software that i had on my TyTN II works with the Touch Pro 2 WM 6.1, as follows:
1. TomTom Navigator 6 does not work but works on TyTN II WM 6.1?
2. TomTom Navigator 7 (Tried it & HTC Confirmed it will not work either)
3. MS Voice Command or any other voice command software does not work
4. Many other MUST HAVE programs i had on TyTN II WM6.1 also will not work now
5. Company supplied software wont work either,
6. It also wont work with my Landrover Freelander 2 PTI kit, so am forced to go back to a BT Headset
Surely PDA software OS 6.1 cant be that different from version 6.0 in my experience with the TyTN II as 6.1 just had small enhancements to 6.0?
I at least need some navigation & voice command software to work on the Touch Pro 2 as it just can not be operated safely whilst moving otherwise, and there is no point in having it in the first place if i can't get these two software types to work, which is a big problem for me.
Does anyone know what software does work, although i think it is the HTC TouchFlo Skin that is the problem with other programs i have tried this weekend, as it does not allow third part software to be displayed on the home screen easily, even google apps toolbar has probs, does this sound feasible?
Can anyone help me out with this or did i buy the wrong phone maybe a Touch Pro would have been better as closer to my TyTN II layout and functions?
Thanks in advance
Alex
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TT 7 Does work with Rhodium, as does VC, everything has it's quirks of config. BT has always been a pain in the ass and requires different settings for different HFPs, Car Kits and A2DPs.
If you wan to kill Touch Flow, go into start/settings/personal/today and untick the TF.
There are plenty of threads and posts that will resolve most of your issues mate.
Search the entire forum, not just the Rhodium section and you'll get the answers you need.
Cheers,
Beasty
From your list of programs I can only confirm that Tomtom 7 DOES work, and it works very well. I'm using 7.915.9196 VGA
I haven't installed much software yet as Ive been a bit busy, but everything I've put on has worked pefectly. Admittedly I only installed stuff that worked on my Diamond which was also wm6.1
alexsimmons said:
Hi there
Firstly i am a very heavy user of my PDA's but not very technical & apologies for long post, but cant find the answers anywhere else on this site.
Have been using HTC SIM free handsets for approx 4.5 Years now, and been using a HTC TyTN II for the last year, updated the ROM from WM6.0 to WM 6.1 then everything started going wrong so decided to spend the £500 to jump to the HTC Touch Pro 2 but am very frustrated and almost at the point of going back to the TyTN II or going to another brand of phone as none of the software that i had on my TyTN II works with the Touch Pro 2 WM 6.1, as follows:
1. TomTom Navigator 6 does not work but works on TyTN II WM 6.1?
2. TomTom Navigator 7 (Tried it & HTC Confirmed it will not work either)
3. MS Voice Command or any other voice command software does not work
4. Many other MUST HAVE programs i had on TyTN II WM6.1 also will not work now
5. Company supplied software wont work either,
6. It also wont work with my Landrover Freelander 2 PTI kit, so am forced to go back to a BT Headset
Surely PDA software OS 6.1 cant be that different from version 6.0 in my experience with the TyTN II as 6.1 just had small enhancements to 6.0?
I at least need some navigation & voice command software to work on the Touch Pro 2 as it just can not be operated safely whilst moving otherwise, and there is no point in having it in the first place if i can't get these two software types to work, which is a big problem for me.
Does anyone know what software does work, although i think it is the HTC TouchFlo Skin that is the problem with other programs i have tried this weekend, as it does not allow third part software to be displayed on the home screen easily, even google apps toolbar has probs, does this sound feasible?
Can anyone help me out with this or did i buy the wrong phone maybe a Touch Pro would have been better as closer to my TyTN II layout and functions?
Thanks in advance
Alex
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first of all sorry to hear you're having so much issues with the software you need to run on the phone. i have a kaiser/tytn 2 and software from that i have working on tp2. tomtom6 from tytn 2 does not work but tomtom7 defo does. MSVC does work as well but you need to get version compatible with tp2. look in the HTC BLACKSTONE forum as most of the apps from this device work with tp2. please remember that tp2 is WVGA res so that alone may effect the compatibility of some programs. the Blackstone forum is littered with programs that you may need that will work on tp2 and even better! can't really comment on your work software as dont know what it is! good luck with searching!
oh and i know it may be silly but make sure your phone is visible for BT purposes an use phone to pair with your landrover. mine works well with my parrot system with no issues!
shingers5 said:
first of all sorry to hear you're having so much issues with the software you need to run on the phone. i have a kaiser/tytn 2 and software from that i have working on tp2. tomtom6 from tytn 2 does not work but tomtom7 defo does. MSVC does work as well but you need to get version compatible with tp2. look in the HTC BLACKSTONE forum as most of the apps from this device work with tp2. please remember that tp2 is WVGA res so that alone may effect the compatibility of some programs. the Blackstone forum is littered with programs that you may need that will work on tp2 and even better! can't really comment on your work software as dont know what it is! good luck with searching!
oh and i know it may be silly but make sure your phone is visible for BT purposes an use phone to pair with your landrover. mine works well with my parrot system with no issues!
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What he said!
agreed that WVGA is your biggest problem. install "second today" to solve your problem with things not on the screen because of touch flo.
Hi Beasty
Thanks for tips, now i know what its codename is, it made it easier to find stuff on this excellent site after i saw your and other replies and have since loaded MS VC 1.6 UK Edition which seems to work ok although not tried it yet with my new HTC BT Headset.
In reply to the others thanks for the great info so far, i have tried loading TomTom 7 once again from the MicroSD card and it wont even load, its just says "this version of TomTom 7 is not compatible with this device" when i click "OK" it just terminates. I dont know what version it is till it loads?
A friend of mine this evening says that the closest phone on the TT7 compatability list seems to be the HTC Touch HD, and that CoPilot 7 actually lists Touch Pro2 as a compatible device, so i will have to try that i think and see if it actually does work, and will let you and the forum know
In terms of the work applications, i know they are based on the MS .NET Micro framework and so should work out of the box, but no they dont, but i think it is a screen resolution issue more than anything else.
The other app i need to run ideally is "Nimbuzz" Multi IM app, again for work.
On both of these work related apps i get an intermittent error message, saying "An error has occurred with xxxx appplication, send error report yes or no" when i choose Yes, it loops same message, when i clicked No it loops once then closes.
I removed the "Nimbuzz" application and soft reset, but still get the error message for it which is weird. So if anyone knows of a Multi IM (Inc Skype) which will run on Touch Pro 2 i look forward to knowing about it.
Work funded 50% of my Touch Pro2 purchase so need to get this all working as best i can
Thanks again for the tips, hints, instructions
Alex
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MSVC does work as well but you need to get version compatible with tp2. look in the HTC BLACKSTONE forum as most of the apps from this device work with tp2.
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Do you know if anyone has been able to get MSVC to work with the TP2 with a bluetooth headset?
I have tried both the US and European versions of MSVC 1.6 with my TP2. It only seems to work with the built-in speaker.
mschaffer said:
Do you know if anyone has been able to get MSVC to work with the TP2 with a bluetooth headset?
I have tried both the US and European versions of MSVC 1.6 with my TP2. It only seems to work with the built-in speaker.
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haven't tried as dont use bluetooth headsets. can't stand having that bulk in my ear. from what i have read it doesn't work but i can't be certain as not used myelf
Also make sure you install .net compact framework 3.5:
http://rapidshare.com/files/77805623/NETCFv35.wm.armv4i.cab
Hi
Added "Second Today" thanks for that, what a cool app, except got all those nasty recurring error messages that i had big trouble getting rid of.
Have now returned to bog standard WM6.1 having got rid of TouchFlo 3D thanks to Beasty
I like to use what i am used to till i have all the progs i need to be work productive on the move, will then fiddle with TouchFlo 3D laterz
Alex
tomtom 7.450 works well on my tp2
alexsimmons said:
Hi
Added "Second Today" thanks for that, what a cool app, except got all those nasty recurring error messages that i had big trouble getting rid of.
Have now returned to bog standard WM6.1 having got rid of TouchFlo 3D thanks to Beasty
I like to use what i am used to till i have all the progs i need to be work productive on the move, will then fiddle with TouchFlo 3D laterz
Alex
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No problem sir,
We are all here to help each other, TF3D is a highly usefull interface, just takes a bit of getting used to, 2nd today and TF3D is a great combination especially when you configure one of the softkeys to switch between both.
Multi IM you could try BeeJive, not a lot of experience with this (seem to remember Elite team including it in their Roms) but there are plenty available on the net.
Cheers,
Beasty
Hi All
Got MSVC working on TP2 but not with a BT headset so have just bought the Parrot Minikit Slim with voice dialling, although the voice dialling only works if you can sync the TP 2 with it just like my landrover, but it does not tell you this on the outside of the box.
Guess what? The TP2 is not listed on the Parrot Minikit compatibility list so may have spent/wasted another £70 today as cant sync the TP2 contacts with the Parrot system which is the same prob i was having with my landrover
Alex
alexsimmons said:
Hi there
Firstly i am a very heavy user of my PDA's but not very technical & apologies for long post, but cant find the answers anywhere else on this site.
Have been using HTC SIM free handsets for approx 4.5 Years now, and been using a HTC TyTN II for the last year, updated the ROM from WM6.0 to WM 6.1 then everything started going wrong so decided to spend the £500 to jump to the HTC Touch Pro 2 but am very frustrated and almost at the point of going back to the TyTN II or going to another brand of phone as none of the software that i had on my TyTN II works with the Touch Pro 2 WM 6.1, as follows:
1. TomTom Navigator 6 does not work but works on TyTN II WM 6.1?
2. TomTom Navigator 7 (Tried it & HTC Confirmed it will not work either)
3. MS Voice Command or any other voice command software does not work
4. Many other MUST HAVE programs i had on TyTN II WM6.1 also will not work now
5. Company supplied software wont work either,
6. It also wont work with my Landrover Freelander 2 PTI kit, so am forced to go back to a BT Headset
Surely PDA software OS 6.1 cant be that different from version 6.0 in my experience with the TyTN II as 6.1 just had small enhancements to 6.0?
I at least need some navigation & voice command software to work on the Touch Pro 2 as it just can not be operated safely whilst moving otherwise, and there is no point in having it in the first place if i can't get these two software types to work, which is a big problem for me.
Does anyone know what software does work, although i think it is the HTC TouchFlo Skin that is the problem with other programs i have tried this weekend, as it does not allow third part software to be displayed on the home screen easily, even google apps toolbar has probs, does this sound feasible?
Can anyone help me out with this or did i buy the wrong phone maybe a Touch Pro would have been better as closer to my TyTN II layout and functions?
Thanks in advance
Alex
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Hey Alex...
I am sorry to hear that you are having so many problems and I have a fix-all solution for you.... I have a posting up in the marketplace, where I am looking to Trade a HTC Titan (Sprint Mogul) and 2 HTC Kaisers (AT&T Tilt's) for 1 GSM Touch Pro 2.... & I can confirm that TomTom 7 works on all 3 (I have the GPS unlocked on the Mogul).... Just think... 3 phones for your 1... What a great deal
Can someone post the link to the UK version of MSVC? I can't see it at the MS site.
I installed MSVC on my TP2 which led to a hard reset, so I want to be sure that I'm using the right version.
Thanks
"...i have tried loading TomTom 7 once again from the MicroSD card and it wont even load, its just says "this version of TomTom 7 is not compatible with this device" when i click "OK" it just terminates. I dont know what version it is till it loads?"
I've exactly this same problem. Does anybody know how to get around this and get it installed?
Wouldn't you know it. 24 hours of bashing my head against the desk trying to get this to work....I add a message to this board and 10 minutes later it works. Just used 7.915.9196 VGA as pointed out by stunno and remembered to look in program files after it was installed instead of repeatedly clicking on the original installer on the memory card.
alexsimmons said:
Guess what? The TP2 is not listed on the Parrot Minikit compatibility list so may have spent/wasted another £70 today as cant sync the TP2 contacts with the Parrot system which is the same prob i was having with my landrover
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So strange.
I'm using the parrot CK3100, and that's working fine, out of the box.
Just let the TP2 find the Parrot, 1234 as pin, and the TP2 recognizes it as a Hands-free set.
And it automatically started synchronizing.
My parrot 3200LS will not sync the directory either. It just disconnects the bluetooth device as soon as you tell it to sync. It works as a handfree ok, but its a pain to make calls without the directory.
I have Google Android on my SD card which I primarily use, but for the sake of Bluetooth would like to have a usable WinMo rom to switch to. I see all kinds of them on this forum, which is a good usable starting point?
I'm running NFSFAN's Windows 6.5V15 it runs great and easy to use on the vouge. The only problem I've had is I can no longer send a POP E-mail through the Verizon Outgoing Mail Server. I was also alltel and had no problems up until the change over. About a week after the changer over I stopped being able to send emails. The Verizon people have no idea why. I just haven't had a few spare hours to sit on hold to get a hold of tech support yet.
I am not sure if there are any differences between the Alltel and Sprint versions, but I have been using NFSFAN's Custom Sprint WM6.1 ROM for over a week and I love it. Android is very blurry on my phone but I still fire it up every now and then to play with it. I really like the Manilla 2D, HTC Footprints, and Google Map Search on his 6.1 ROM! I have tried WM6.5 and did not like it as much. I am still new to flashing custom ROMs so I have not had a chance to experience all that is out there.
I'm considering getting a TP2 to use as an internet phone, would it be good for me?
I plan to use it for (in this order):
1. SIP/VoIP calling over wifi (how convenient is this?)
2. Email (multiple email account support, filters for organization, etc)
3. Media (videos/mp3s/pandora/youtube)
edit: 4. Web browsing and e-book reading
This is a big purchase for me and I don't want to receive the phone and find out that the SIPconfig/AudioRoute doesn't work well enough to use as a primary phone.
It's between the TP2 and an Android device (they seem to work well as internet phones and have capacitive screens, but no WVGA).
Please help me make this decision. I need advice from experienced users.
If you dont need qwert key board, i would say HTC Touch HD is much better choice. It have almost same hardware as Pro 2, but it uses 3.8 screen instead 3.6 for pro2.
And it is cheaper than Pro2
My experience.. very good handling.. especially with Opera.. Speed is f*cked up but that's not the phone, cause my htc tp2 beats my friends n97 and another friends samsung omnia pro..it's the ****ty coverage in my pesantville over here..
no flash in opera though, bit of a setback considering my age of eighteen years old
If you don't need qwerty i'd suggest you wait for HTC Leo
Latoah
TP2 works great with skype, good audio.
Works fine
benanon said:
I'm considering getting a TP2 to use as an internet phone, would it be good for me?
I plan to use it for (in this order):
1. SIP/VoIP calling over wifi (how convenient is this?)
2. Email (multiple email account support, filters for organization, etc)
3. Media (videos/mp3s/pandora/youtube)
edit: 4. Web browsing and e-book reading
This is a big purchase for me and I don't want to receive the phone and find out that the SIPconfig/AudioRoute doesn't work well enough to use as a primary phone.
It's between the TP2 and an Android device (they seem to work well as internet phones and have capacitive screens, but no WVGA).
Please help me make this decision. I need advice from experienced users.
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I use it with Skype for WM and it works great... clear sound from between US and UK, and even works fine in video conference mode on WiFi... and that's even on the $hitty broadband speeds we get here in Grand Cayman.
thanks guys, but does anyone have experience with using the built-in SIP/VoiP features in windows mobile? i.e., call someone normally from contacts and it goes through SIP?
I am really disappointed in skype discontinuing their software for Winmo. What the hell are they thinking? Do they think that no one uses Winmo? Well I discontinued their service so thats the end of it. Anyone else with me?
http://www.shapeservices.com/en/products/details.php?product=skype&platform=pocketpc
ill send u the cab for skype pm your email to me
I think what they're thinking is that wm6.x is dead, beacuse it basically is. WM6 apps apparently won't run on wm7 and I can't see many new wm6 devices being released now.
So what is the point them updating the old Skype cab ? None really. And how much server space should they dedicate to a dead app running on a dead OS when I'm sure it's possible to find the cab file on alternative sites? I have Skype installed on my TP2 and it still works fine, so they've not disconnected us, they're just not updating us.
If I were you I'd place the blame more on Microsofts decision to ditch compatibility than Skype
dik23 said:
I think what they're thinking is that wm6.x is dead, beacuse it basically is. WM6 apps apparently won't run on wm7 and I can't see many new wm6 devices being released now.
So what is the point them updating the old Skype cab ? None really. And how much server space should they dedicate to a dead app running on a dead OS when I'm sure it's possible to find the cab file on alternative sites? I have Skype installed on my TP2 and it still works fine, so they've not disconnected us, they're just not updating us.
If I were you I'd place the blame more on Microsofts decision to ditch compatibility than Skype
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I have not heard about WM6 programs not running on WM7. Backwards compatibility is generally standard. Of course, programs written for a stylus would not make much sense.
stevedebi said:
I have not heard about WM6 programs not running on WM7. Backwards compatibility is generally standard. Of course, programs written for a stylus would not make much sense.
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A friend of mine is working on Windows Phone 7. He tells me that its OS is incompatible with the former Windows Mobile 6.x
Interesting, he said, at the kernel level, Windows Mobile 6.x is based on Windows 95 while Windows Phone 7 is based on Windows Vista.
Thanks for the link, defaultdotxbe, but unfortunately I cannot get the software to work properly. I can make a call, but there is no outgoing ring on my end and I can't hear anything when the other phone answers.
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ill send u the cab for skype pm your email to me
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Thanks, but I have already found the cab for it and its function is giving me a headache. I don't like using BT nor the speaker and audioroute didn't help either because when my ear touches the phone it triggers unwanted actions and when I turn the screen off, the phone becomes useless. Then there are 2 types of ringtones when I make a call - one of them is very loud, annoying and rings a few seconds longer even after the other line answers it which most of the time they ended up hanging up on me. The second ringtone is much softer and accurate. However, every call I make the ringtone becomes random which is very irritating. Then there is the dialing screen which does not respond well to my touchscreen. It sometimes switches to another tab when I try to hangup and then at time it freezes. Well, basically the cab is outdated and isn't working very well for me.
dik23 said:
I think what they're thinking is that wm6.x is dead, beacuse it basically is. WM6 apps apparently won't run on wm7 and I can't see many new wm6 devices being released now.
So what is the point them updating the old Skype cab ? None really. And how much server space should they dedicate to a dead app running on a dead OS when I'm sure it's possible to find the cab file on alternative sites? I have Skype installed on my TP2 and it still works fine, so they've not disconnected us, they're just not updating us.
If I were you I'd place the blame more on Microsofts decision to ditch compatibility than Skype
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I believe that skype is the one that have ditched us. WM6 is still heavily used by many people, especially by us in here. Also, the new HTC HD2 in the US is supporting wm6 and that can't be ignored. WM7 isn't even official yet so why did skype cut us out a long time ago? Or maybe I don't fully understand how this microsoft OS thing works, but I'm still disappointed in skype.