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Where are you Schaps ?
We want to know about your coming ROM is it 6.1 build or what is going on
are you retired
He have a new pda
This thread is the type of thread that leads to rumors... If you take the time to read the thread for 4.31 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=359458
You would know his already recently posted thoughts about what your asking..
He did not go away and has posted already he would like to avoid rumors of "disappearing".
Try to read abit more so not to fuel something that is just 100% wrong.
I know he is still developing ROMs but it is a long time since the last post
and moreover we did not see his 6.1, the thread you linked is a 6 one ROM
hadian said:
I know he is still developing ROMs but it is a long time since the last post
and moreover we did not see his 6.1, the thread you linked is a 6 one ROM
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selfish prick. he's posted in that thread that he's busy with other life matters right now. it's not like he's on a payroll of xda-dev to get his 6.1 out. he'll have it out when he can, stop pressuring him, it won't make him work any faster. especailly not with some person woh's been on these boards over a year and has made like 30 posts and obviously not contributed at all.
I had extracted his post on 4 March 08 below reguarding your question:
schaps said:
Hi,
A message to tell you that I'm still working on new ROMs, but those last times I'm really busy with my work and I have to spend more time with my family, so I need more time to finalize my work...
I don't want again rumors telling that I'm leaving ROM kitchen, so don't worry I'm not giving up, it's just because I have other priorities at the moment. Please be patient...
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or this is the correct link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=1989042#post1989042
Yes, and I'm very happy he is spending more time with his family. That is a good thing and all we're doing is playing around with our phones.
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selfish prick. he's posted in that thread that he's busy with other life matters right now. it's not like he's on a payroll of xda-dev to get his 6.1 out. he'll have it out when he can, stop pressuring him, it won't make him work any faster. especailly not with some person woh's been on these boards over a year and has made like 30 posts and obviously not contributed at all.
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Is it a new standards that how many post you have
then you can speak or not !!!!!
I hope heas a ROM comming up soon, I can't wait I really like his work.
But I respect his private-life... there is more in life than XDA-Developers.com, he also has to work to pay the bills of apply for jobs when he's unemployed, etc. etc.
But I'm looking forward for his next ROM, as I said... I really like his work.
chamelion said:
selfish prick. he's posted in that thread that he's busy with other life matters right now. it's not like he's on a payroll of xda-dev to get his 6.1 out. he'll have it out when he can, stop pressuring him, it won't make him work any faster. especailly not with some person woh's been on these boards over a year and has made like 30 posts and obviously not contributed at all.
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chamelion,this whole thing doesn`t require name calling and insult.hadian asked a simple and polite question as a fan.So go easy.Thought we are all here to learn and share.
lighten up chameleon
are the yin and the yang both assholes?
Suggestion for the mods.....
Well,
I read it all inhere, and quite frankly, there is nothing new or something to be learned in this thread. All but rude replies, people not reading before posting, in short: complete waste of diskspace..
Suggestion for the mods: remove this entire thread, including my pointless remark here....
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Well,
I read it all inhere, and quite frankly, there is nothing new or something to be learned in this thread. All but rude replies, people not reading before posting, in short: complete waste of diskspace..
Suggestion for the mods: remove this entire thread, including my pointless remark here....
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Agreed
Thread closed.
Hi!
I am currently working on a new version of TouchXperience website where I will try to keep you frequently updated about project progress and releases. The new website is community-oriented so if you have any questions, suggestions, or if you would like to contribute in my projects, you are free to take part in forum or wiki. Support will be maintained on TouchXperience forum in the future.
As you know I don't have a lot of free time (and a free PC at the moment) to care of TouchXperience project and website, and I have limited knowledge in website content/forum/wiki management, so I would be glad if some of you were willing to help me. But I'm looking for serious/professional people, to moderate forums, to help users and post frequently asked questions,... everything you want to contribute in TouchXperience website life! The best would be if you have good knowledge in CMS, webdesign, forum/wiki management that could help me to improve website.
Thank you in advance!
ready to help
i'm a bussy man too! but in afternoons and nights i'm online so I can support your forum with my experiences.
i'm already there !!!
gretz!
nice page, well idea with forum
im in
I wouldn't mind giving a bit of my time, I can help with:
*FAQ management
*Posting answers to questions
*Writing articles for wikis ect
*General forum stuff
Give me a shout if you want to talk it over more
Im also an admin on Touch-innovation, and im sure we would love to help promote your work even more
me!!!!
got enough experience on all faculties - cms (joomla - as ur site is built on that!), wiki, forum... and integrating all of them!
.... if u need proof of what i am doing currently... just send me a pm!
Schaps, I wish I could help but I am not familiar with any of that stuff. However, I do want to say the site is looking good! And I think this new interactive site is a GREAT idea. TWO THUMBS UP FOR SCHAPS!
I'm in..
I can help what I knew as well as post suggestions/question.
oops
I tried to go to your website while at work. I went to thetouchexperience.com which happens to be an adult sex toy.
ricrellim said:
I tried to go to your website while at work. I went to thetouchexperience.com which happens to be an adult sex toy.
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Sorry buddy, if you love porn this is not the site. Schap's is www.touchxperience.com not the one you mentioned.
Nice joomla
Count me in ... I'll work with Veyka to update stuff there if you wish. Even though I won't be doing any testing my self don't like touchflo/animation/etc on a hermes screen with edges!
Php and and MySql skills. Not too much time available but let's do it!!
Nico
For the record I was not trying to promote the other site. I was simply trying to prevent someone from making the same mistake at work as I did. Thanks for the real address.
I'm curious... What's wrong with the XDA-Developers wiki & forums?
Why do you feel the need to split off from XDA dev to somewhere else?
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I'm curious... What's wrong with the XDA-Developers wiki & forums?
Why do you feel the need to split off from XDA dev to somewhere else?
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Well on the last thread there were a lot of blathering jackasses that were making stupid posts *****ing at each other and *****ing about how long the development is taking which pissed everybody off and eventually got the thread closed. This seems to be the newest and only TouchXperience thread?
-P.S. Schaps, count me in to help with the new site.
fredline12002 said:
Well on the last thread there were a lot of blathering jackasses that were making stupid posts *****ing at each other and *****ing about how long the development is taking which pissed everybody off and eventually got the thread closed.
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That's what the triangle with the exclamation mark is made for, so one can report such posts for the moderators to take care of.
I can help with Forum and SEO
I´m a webdesigner and systemadministrator, i would be happy if i could help you with your project
fredline12002 said:
Well on the last thread there were a lot of blathering jackasses that were making stupid posts *****ing at each other and *****ing about how long the development is taking which pissed everybody off and eventually got the thread closed. This seems to be the newest and only TouchXperience thread?
-P.S. Schaps, count me in to help with the new site.
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However, all this will mean is that the blathering jackasses will then be blathering on a different forum? I guess I fail to see the benefits... lol
Hell yeah
Count me in...
You can contact me in PM
- Forum moderation
- Updating site
CRCinAU said:
However, all this will mean is that the blathering jackasses will then be blathering on a different forum? I guess I fail to see the benefits... lol
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lol I guess we'll see and hope for the best?
This is in reference to the NilsP/Joelz petition threads that were closed by willverduzco, and the resulting lashing that he posted here. While there were a VERY small minority of posts that might have crossed a line of respect, an overwhelming number of the posts in there were simply people showing support for the developers that deserve that recognition.
I find it disturbing that the moderation team can't seem to take some criticism here. This is a community, and if the mod/admin team can't at least listen to the members of that community without mocking them or belittling them as was done in this thread, then this place is truly lost. Which is sad because it was (and in a lot of regards still is) a great place for android users/devs to get together.
I'm sure this thread will too be locked, and I'll take my whipping of the cat-o-nine-tails for daring to challenge the overlords, but this is really a sad state of affairs.
"iron fist" lol.
yeah, i'm sure this will be locked too.
badogg said:
This is in reference to the NilsP/Joelz petition threads that were closed by willverduzco, and the resulting lashing that he posted here. While there were a VERY small minority of posts that might have crossed a line of respect, an overwhelming number of the posts in there were simply people showing support for the developers that deserve that recognition.
I find it disturbing that the moderation team can't seem to take some criticism here. This is a community, and if the mod/admin team can't at least listen to the members of that community without mocking them or belittling them as was done in this thread, then this place is truly lost. Which is sad because it was (and in a lot of regards still is) a great place for android users/devs to get together.
I'm sure this thread will too be locked, and I'll take my whipping of the cat-o-nine-tails for daring to challenge the overlords, but this is really a sad state of affairs.
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i understand you are upset that nilsp did not get his badge for "reconized developer" and im not trying to say he does not deserve it (because is one of the great devs still on here).
but the way you decided to handle it was not good. posting it in the development thread to get it seen more is not the way to go. if you feel like he deserves the badge, then voice your opinion by pming Developer Committee please dont try to start a war on here. it will only end badly. we are already have enough wrong posting going on by people mistaking this as an INC 2 thread. please dont add to it.
if you dont like the rules then go to a different site. there are some of us on here that still want to keep order and help others and not make this a flame site.
*i am ready to be flamed now*
Dudes he gave us a proper way to appeal, which I personally didn't know about. Its not as epic as "challenging overlords", they just want us to follow the rules.
This "iron fist" thing has been talked about for weeks. There was a huge article on it in the portal about the sense of entitlement, people thinking for some reason that donations = labor contracts, the devs being frustrated by users *****ing, among other things. The easiest way for them to circumvent it is to have a zero tolerance policy, so they're not exactly gonna be nice about a whole lot right now. My advice to yall is to just let it go and be cool.
They run this place, we don't, period. Lets just enjoy what it does for our gadgets guys... They obviously are going through a rough time, the least we can do is make it easy on them.
Everyone needs to remember this is only a website... mods I respect you but seriously IT'S A WEBSITE... I'm 20 and have more sense than most people on here this is all childlike and uncalled for... this is a community not a hierarchy...
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Well the MODERATORS need to quit treating us like a bunch of whiney little babies and let us support our last few devs. I reopened my thread guys. Go blow it up!
wildstang83 said:
Well the MODERATORS need to quit treating us like a bunch of whiney little babies and let us support our last few devs. I reopened my thread guys. Go blow it up!
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I wasn't all bent until I read their responses. That is where I had a problem. The way that they dealt with this was disconcerting. All we wanted to do was to show some support for a couple of peeps, and if we did it wrong then educate us without being jerks about it.
Your thread is gone.
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lol stang, i think they deleted your thread.
it's the "i'm taking my ball and going home!" mentality all over again here at XDA.
wildstang83 said:
Well the MODERATORS need to quit treating us like a bunch of whiney little babies and let us support our last few devs. I reopened my thread guys. Go blow it up!
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3 Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior.
JUST INCASE YOU DIDNT READ THE RULES.
How dare you abuse the authority they gave you. Lol
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3 Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior.
JUST INCASE YOU DIDNT READ THE RULES.
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Hey thanks for the rules quote. I know what they are and always have followed them though and so now we get treated like this. Last I checked I live in America and have faught in three wars for America and now yall wanna tell me I can't show my full support for our last few Devs. And to think I wanted to try to talk them into staying on this site. Lol well thats out of the question now aint it?
Yall can catch me on TheMikMik or Team Reverse
synisterwolf said:
3 Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior.
JUST INCASE YOU DIDNT READ THE RULES.
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*READS RULES*
Ok, so that makes sense for the one that was in the development forum, but what about the petition thread? I don't see anywhere in those rules that say that we aren't allowed to show support for another member/dev or question the decisions of the mods.
Sure there was probably a couple of members that might have pushed it a little far, but I don't think any of it was really over the line (but admittedly I didn't read every single post and I'm not going to) - just voicing displeasure about it, and showing support.
synisterwolf said:
3 Flaming: XDA was founded as a group of people sharing information about certain mobile phones. Sharing does not involve virtual yelling (flaming) it does involve working together to solve problems in an environment of mutual respect and understanding. Losing your temper and flaming another member, or group of members, is not acceptable behavior.
JUST INCASE YOU DIDNT READ THE RULES.
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But making jokes and clowning is acceptable, as long as you're a mod, right? Go read the thread. They were laughing and clowning at the first 2 guys that posted about this. Then I called them out on it and all of a sudden they're serious about it. Then i get this comment from some idiot...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=276306&page=239
WHERE'S THE IRON FIST AT? I'll take my ban as long as this dude does too...
Zeus... God of Awesome!
wildstang83 said:
Hey thanks for the rules quote. I know what they are and always have followed them though and so now we get treated like this. Last I checked I live in America and have faught in three wars for America and now yall wanna tell me I can't show my full support for our last few Devs. And to think I wanted to try to talk them into staying on this site. Lol well thats out of the question now aint it?
Yall can catch me on TheMikMik or Team Reverse
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im all for keeping the devs here, but posting a flame thread is not the way. (im also not stopping you from voicing you opinion if you do it the correct way.) it just adds fuel to the fire. that's something we don't need.
"If they disagree with a moderator's actions, users CAN complain (not in the forums, only via Private Message). We are putting systems in place to ensure that mods ask for advice from the team in complex situations. Senior mods and administrators will do everything we can to ensure that moderators wield their power for good, not evil. Fair but firm. Firm but fair. It's a balance we strive for daily, and this is a responsibility we all take seriously."
if you feel that he was wronged the do the right thing by pming the mods or the committee. then threatening the mods after you thread was closed is still not the way to get your voice out.
(thank you by the way for serving our country.)
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As a moderator of another forum. I have some experience with this stuff. It doesn't have nearly 4,000,000 members, but it has almost 30,000, it's a big chunk. About 6 moderators to handle it, and really only 2 keep up with it (me being one of them), the others log on about once a month. First of all, I don't like closing threads, it's just ruining freedom of speech, which is kind of the whole point of a forum, if I have to I'll edit every single post, but I like to let people speak their mind. I also never mention anything somebody did, even if a name isn't mentioned, anything someone in particular did. In the mods post he said about the member who is threatening to leave, well, I'll admit it, that was me, and anyone could have found that out. BTW, I'm not the first one to do that. I would never do that to one of my members. I hope this doesn't get edited or removed. I'm not whining, I'm just saying my opinion. Nothing wrong, nothing bad. Just saying it. Also, I never come back at my members in a mean or insulting way unless they come at me on a personal level. Not a moderating job level, but an actual personal level. I think it's wrong to go to your members and tell them they are just whiny little crybabies who need to grow up.
Sincerely,
cvbcbcmv
P.S I'm not complaining, I wouldn't fill out a formal complaint, that's not my point of this post. I just want to state my opinion.
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Bravo man. There was a lot of intolerance all around this issue, but I think the moderating really went down the toilet on it.
cvbcbcmv said:
As a moderator of another forum. I have some experience with this stuff. It doesn't have nearly 4,000,000 members, but it has almost 30,000, it's a big chunk. About 6 moderators to handle it, and really only 2 keep up with it (me being one of them), the others log on about once a month. First of all, I don't like closing threads, it's just ruining freedom of speech, which is kind of the whole point of a forum, if I have to I'll edit every single post, but I like to let people speak their mind. I also never mention anything somebody did, even if a name isn't mentioned, anything someone in particular did. In the mods post he said about the member who is threatening to leave, well, I'll admit it, that was me, and anyone could have found that out. BTW, I'm not the first one to do that. I would never do that to one of my members. I hope this doesn't get edited or removed. I'm not whining, I'm just saying my opinion. Nothing wrong, nothing bad. Just saying it. Also, I never come back at my members in a mean or insulting way unless they come at me on a personal level. Not a moderating job level, but an actual personal level. I think it's wrong to go to your members and tell them they are just whiny little crybabies who need to grow up.
Sincerely,
cvbcbcmv
P.S I'm not complaining, I wouldn't fill out a formal complaint, that's not my point of this post. I just want to state my opinion.
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This is how I moderate too, otherwise things like what's happened here repeat.....and that's bad
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I can see both sides of the argument. Nils is a great dev and should be recognized as a dev. The mods have a site to run andm unfortunatly, there are quite a few immature people that visit these forums and flame away, are disrespectful, and flat out rude. I would like to think that the mods realize that not giving him his dev title after all he has done for the community, was a mistake. I dont know if the will acknowledge that, but it is a mistake. On the other hand, and I have even been guilty at times, there is way too much flaming, rudeness, people demanding of devs, and moronic behavior all over this site, it has become really pathetic. If the mods actual felt that they needed to bring down the hammer, they should have started a long time ago and not let it get as bad as it is. I appreciate this site, but I am also thankful that there are other places I can get quality roms for my phone. Xda just isnt what it used to be when I joined several years ago.
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yeah, and anything like this has never happened on the forum I moderate, nothing get's passed a disagreement on a statement, and it doesn't come close to a flame war. It's friendly. That's how 2 moderators handle it. The people don't go flaming
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Yeah, and for a mod to put this text when moving a thread is not going to help:
"Moved: I'm incapable of posting or filing an appeal properly, so my thread was moved."
Members are going to cross the line, and honestly act childish at times - sure. But the moderation team shouldn't address that with even more childish behavior.
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Hey thanks for the rules quote. I know what they are and always have followed them though and so now we get treated like this. Last I checked I live in America and have faught in three wars for America and now yall wanna tell me I can't show my full support for our last few Devs. And to think I wanted to try to talk them into staying on this site. Lol well thats out of the question now aint it?
Yall can catch me on TheMikMik or Team Reverse
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First off as a fellow veteran I thank you for your service. However from what I've read about this site it was started in Europe so our American sense of 2nd amendment rites is kind of a mute point. This was and is a site created by devs for devs, us users are just here for the ride without much say in the matter as it isn't a democracy.
This fued some have going with Hacre I think is pointeless. To tell you the truth I think he is some type of enforcer on here. From what I can tell from googling him he's been asked before by mods to respond to posts in the exact same manner he is now. Hasn't anyone noticed not one mod in that main section is from America nor has said anything about Hacre's posts?
I think all the drama here is getting out of hand and its teime to just let it go. Yes I think they should have left the petition threads alone, but the op of the Nils thread asked for it to be locked. Yours I think was a mistake but you pissed someone off by reopening it on your own, maybe should have asked first? In my opinion this has done more harm than good to both Joel and Nils but I guess it wouldn't be xda if it didn't get all blown out of portion in a hurry and quickly go to ****.
Just seen Venum post about giving up on keeping up with discussion threads because ppl just refuse to read. One of our great devs seems frustrated....... can't blame him.
I've been playing around with this ROM sh#t for a couple years now. This ''why don't ppl just read'' thing is just always gonna be a problem. Maybe until someone way smarter then my dumbass can create some sort of program that before your able to post a question a Page or Page numbers will pop up? IDK.... Maybe some ppl are lazy and others are just too busy.
IMO starting separate discussion threads just isn't the answer. I find myself bouncing back and forth between both threads to get info on whats going on.
Hell I'm BADLY guilty of not researching. A week after a buddy from work mentioned something about roms I posted a question in the HTC dev thread when I ran into a problem. I got flamed big time. Ya know ''Hows the battery life on this rom?'' and all that.
I had an HTC TBolt before this badass phone. In two days we lost two great devs partly because of frustration with ppl in the threads. The flaming and why don't ppl just read.
I love this hobby. Just something too eff around with when I'm bored. There is ALOT of really cool and helpful peeps in these threads. Great devs too. I've looked into theming and after I found out about all the time it involved, I thought there is no way I could do this. I appreciate the time and work these devs and themers put into giving us there awesome work.
I'm 38 yrs old with a wife and a three yr old son. Don't know if I'm wise enough to give ya'll any advise but I'm going to give it anyway. All this is a cellphone and a hobby....... someone post a question that's been asked and answered a thousand times.... so what. Help if you want, or else move on. Don't take this sh#t too seriously.
This doesn't go out to the devs,contributers, or themers......I wouldn't be able to understand your frustration with some of this stuff in these threads only because of the time you put into this.
Venum,Erick,Mijjah74,BTR,Sfhub etc. etc.
Thanks.......
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Couldn't have said it better myself! Well said man.
Sent from my iPhone killer.
Beautifully said.
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One of the best devs on my old phone just dropped phantom updates and almost never posted. People would mention issues or wants and a future release would often be updated with hose thigs. He would typically just update the op without even bumping the thread.
To all you devs out there hanks for your work but do it for yourself guys life it short and you deserve to have fun and enjoy what you do. I spent the last 6 years in bs jobs and finally got back to doing what I love, IT. I dont have the skills or ability in software but I'm working on my ccna right now. I can at least keep the network running for you guys in the future.
Personally, I enjoy the questions posted in my theme threads. I wouldn't ever make a discussion thread because I find it pointless. If people want to post something positive or constructive criticism in my thread, be my quest. I'm all open for ideas and opinions. I always have my own personal variants anyways.
I can understand people being unappreciative, and that can become frustrating. The devs just gotta realize that there are people like that EVERYWHERE and shouldn't let it bother them.
Amen!
Man these things fall funny sometimes lol I was commenting on the first post but didn't quote it in my response.
I'm not big on the idea of having 2 threads either. I always liked it better when it was one thread in development and everything was done inside that thread. But I also think people should read a little more and also utilize the search tool. If you go over the threads you will see the same questions asked in different ways, over and over again. I actually avoid the Hydra rom thread because of this. The devs definitely show a lot of restraint and still try their best to be helpful. Maybe once the official drops and we quit getting leaks every couple of days, things will get better. I myself definitely appreciate everything that all of the devs do in this community.
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I feel that users who jumped onto the dev thread grabbing 2nd 3rd 4th post etc just for fun of it. It would be so nice if you did not grab those post and leave it to the dev or since you do have it, try to do something proactive and post relevant updates/status/bugs. Simple questions & answers. I remember on the miui.us forum Just_S did an amazing job on tackling this even before he was promoted to moderator.
Every forum on XDA is like this.
Another good reason to search through the threads is that you learn so much other good stuff that comes in handy down the road. If I had just asked a question every time I ran into trouble I wouldn't know half of what I know now. Although half of nothing is still nothing I guess!
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I feel that users who jumped onto the dev thread grabbing 2nd 3rd 4th post etc just for fun of it. It would be so nice if you did not grab those post and leave it to the dev or since you do have it, try to do something proactive and post relevant updates/status/bugs. Simple questions & answers. I remember on the miui.us forum Just_S did an amazing job on tackling this even before he was promoted to moderator.
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I completely agree with this. If you take a 1st page post, do something constructive with it. Have your jokes and whatnot at first, but go back and add some value to it.
That's a great way to help the devs keep info and Q & A updated.
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I hate stupid questions ..
Like "are you going to rape me?"
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iSaint said:
I hate stupid questions ..
Like "are you going to rape me?"
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If i flash ics, will it taste like an ics?
Ascertion said:
If i flash ics, will it taste like an ics?
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the snozberries taste like snozberries
I don't mind people asking repetitive questions unless the answer is on the same page or in the op.
The "give me" generation doesn't seem to understand the ...give/teach a man to fish analogy
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Overstew said:
Personally, I enjoy the questions posted in my theme threads. I wouldn't ever make a discussion thread because I find it pointless. If people want to post something positive or constructive criticism in my thread, be my quest. I'm all open for ideas and opinions. I always have my own personal variants anyways.
I can understand people being unappreciative, and that can become frustrating. The devs just gotta realize that there are people like that EVERYWHERE and shouldn't let it bother them.
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I actually agree with Overstew wholeheartedly here. What was referred to in the op was a comment I made in another thread when asked about the discussion thread I had. I'm sure my frustration showed through in my comments but that doesn't mean I want to quit or even really blast people. I wanted to use the rom thread as an actual problems thread and the discussion thread as "I love this rom" "I hate this rom" etc. So I wouldn't have to read through 30 pages of this and that to find issues.
As Overstew said and I feel the same way I enjoy the questions and I DO appreciate the feedback. Because I ACTUALLY do use the feedback good or bad to make tweaks or changes in regard to users as a whole. In hindsight its obvious the 2 thread roms are probably not a good idea. And I'll probably stop it.
Having said all that I want everyone here on the ET4G forum to know that you all have been great to me and in know way do I plan on leaving or getting so pissed off that I quit you guys. On the contrary, I appreciate all of you, and plan to be on the ET4G for the forseeable future trying to make our great phone even better... in addition please remember that we developers are human too and sometimes we may come across as being snippy or disrespectful. But in actuality we probably are having a bad day or something is not going well. Its not personal and we also try not to take things to personal. I think for those of you who know me I try to be as helpful and polite as I can be and represent XDA in the manner I would like to be treated as. And I was new once, and I haven't forgotten what it felt like to be lost or need help...
Sorry got carried away... so I'll end here by saying we have a great community here and it's because if YOU!!!
VeNuM said:
I actually agree with Overstew wholeheartedly here. What was referred to in the op was a comment I made in another thread when asked about the discussion thread I had. I'm sure my frustration showed through in my comments but that doesn't mean I want to quit or even really blast people. I wanted to use the rom thread as an actual problems thread and the discussion thread as "I love this rom" "I hate this rom" etc. So I wouldn't have to read through 30 pages of this and that to find issues.
As Overstew said and I feel the same way I enjoy the questions and I DO appreciate the feedback. Because I ACTUALLY do use the feedback good or bad to make tweaks or changes in regard to users as a whole. In hindsight its obvious the 2 thread roms are probably not a good idea. And I'll probably stop it.
Having said all that I want everyone here on the ET4G forum to know that you all have been great to me and in know way do I plan on leaving or getting so pissed off that I quit you guys. On the contrary, I appreciate all of you, and plan to be on the ET4G for the forseeable future trying to make our great phone even better... in addition please remember that we developers are human too and sometimes we may come across as being snippy or disrespectful. But in actuality we probably are having a bad day or something is not going well. Its not personal and we also try not to take things to personal. I think for those of you who know me I try to be as helpful and polite as I can be and represent XDA in the manner I would like to be treated as. And I was new once, and I haven't forgotten what it felt like to be lost or need help...
Sorry got carried away... so I'll end here by saying we have a great community here and it's because if YOU!!!
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Venum our community wouldn't be the same without you. Thank you for all you do and I'm glad you have the persistence to put up with us.
I've enjoyed every one of your ROMs that I've run and still hold Anakonda up as one of my very favorites.
You and your team (including that crazy themer dude ) are one of the main reasons I'll be hanging onto my phone for the foreseeable future regardless what phone comes out next.
In short terms, you guys rock!
It does look like the two thread idea is not working as well as others would expect but you must admit its a great idea. Honestly xda is for developers to show off their stuff and for us to leech or not to leech. You would assume that we should be able to follow directions. Lets be honest a developer using his free time to make your product better has asked you too simply only post problems in his thread to make it better for you and easier for him to figure out what needs to be fixed. Ask yourself is that really that hard to do.
A developer takes his time to create a beautiful OP to answer all your questions and lets you know exactly what to do to achieve greatness on your phone. Are the directions really that difficult. At what point to we let common sense jump in and go hey before I post this let me think for a sec.....
Rom posted 5:45 post at 6:00 "Hows battery life" - Seriously
Op says camera does not work post will say "Camera is buggy rom sucks" - Why
Sorry I get it why developers get angry and I understand you want people to move on but really with all that's out there to help just take a sec and use your brain...
Remember its called xda DEVELOPERS
I believe it's just fickle times right now in the e4gt forum. Only dedicated xda users know to read thoroughly before jumping in. More and more people join the Android community and a lot more of those people are migrating to custom development. Normally this wouldn't be an issue but currently you have to 'lift your right leg, whirl your finger counter-clockwise, and sing the National Anthem backwards' just to simply flash anything. While most of us are fairly coordinated, myself included , the rest of the community just want to sit back and enjoy the music. In due time, we will all settle back in again and the user that doesn't read will not have to ask any questions, cause it will go smoothly the first time. Patience is key right now. It will get better.
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Venum our community wouldn't be the same without you. Thank you for all you do and I'm glad you have the persistence to put up with us.
I've enjoyed every one of your ROMs that I've run and still hold Anakonda up as one of my very favorites.
You and your team (including that crazy themer dude ) are one of the main reasons I'll be hanging onto my phone for the foreseeable future regardless what phone comes out next.
In short terms, you guys rock!
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Can't believe you called rounsy a crazy themer dude.. Lol
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If you could give a timeframe of an official CM11 nightly build put out for the Galaxy Nexus (toro), how long do you think we're away from that without it having major bugs (graphic glitches,? Weeks? 1-2 months?
First rule of fight club. Can't tell if troll...
What do you mean about trolling? I haven't seen any toro official builds posted for CM11...
Every CM11 ROM will have glitches Unless there's an updated Kernel that comes with it
You're going to get skinned alive for asking about this, let alone making a thread about it.
Gggg
Lolz
First rule of cm is no ETA's. So no you won't get an answer.
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If you could give a timeframe of an official CM11 nightly build put out for the Galaxy Nexus (toro), how long do you think we're away from that without it having major bugs (graphic glitches,? Weeks? 1-2 months?
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Let's say you are creating a product. People keep asking away in your face when you are going to release it, based on your "estimation". Do you like it?
The first rule in development is NEVER asking ANYONE to put out an ETA. Developers hate them and they are utterly disrespectful.
I asked for a mod to delete the thread. I wasn't aware it was so taboo to ask other users as myself when they thought it would come to light.
I've been flashing since the original Motorola Droid an while I know it's rude to ask the dev directly, I wasn't aware it was so bad to ask people's opinions of when they thought it might be out by their estimation of what CM has done in the past after offiicial Android releases. Knee jerk reaction in my opinion by some people, but it is what it is.
I agree with you. The thing that devs complain about concerning ETAs is, when development threads get cluttered with this sort of posts and when people ask the same question again and again although it was answered already.
I think there is nothing bad about discussing possible dates for a new CM and current problems that prevent them from releasing. Where else if not in the "general" section of a forum is the right place to discuss such things. It is definitely more interesting than another thread where people rant about google or ask whether a 5$ 5000mAh china made battery will increase their devices battery life...
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I asked for a mod to delete the thread. I wasn't aware it was so taboo to ask other users as myself when they thought it would come to light.
I've been flashing since the original Motorola Droid an while I know it's rude to ask the dev directly, I wasn't aware it was so bad to ask people's opinions of when they thought it might be out by their estimation of what CM has done in the past after offiicial Android releases. Knee jerk reaction in my opinion by some people, but it is what it is.
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You are not doing anything wrong, forums are for discussion and you are welcome to discuss anything that is on topic, which this is...just some people online are basement dwelling super nerds that take things posted on internet forums as personal attacks
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You are not doing anything wrong, forums are for discussion and you are welcome to discuss anything that is on topic, which this is...just some people online are basement dwelling super nerds that take things posted on internet forums as personal attacks
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He did nothing wrong, but as someone said "first rule of fight club"
No ETA has been a CM rule for a while. None of us know when, how, or where. I thought it was a troll post myself tbh
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ECOTOX said:
He did nothing wrong, but as someone said "first rule of fight club"
No ETA has been a CM rule for a while. None of us know when, how, or where. I thought it was a troll post myself tbh
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I'm not a big fan of ETA topics either but rather than berate another user I just choose not to post in them.
I understand the "first rule" but this isn't the cyanogen forums, it is xda...If fellow users here want to speculate on ETA's I don't see the issue in that.
What are the major bugs right now? Just the graphic glitches and random freezes?
I really appreciate the devs that bring the unofficial builds, and while I don't try them out because I like something really stable, it's really amazing to see such a big dev community still developing for this phone literally two years after releasing tomorrow.
I honestly feel like if a workable 4.4 rom is made for the Galaxy Nexus I'll keep the phone for at least another year because on CM 10.2 it's smooth as hell for me in my daily usage. And while there are bigger and better phones out there obviously, this fits my needs perfectly. Or I should saw wants perfectly.
Lol. I also meant no disrespect. Just honestly couldn't tell if this was real. There have been many posts like this in the past made to create xda havoc. And sadly it usually works.
I don't see much harm it wouldn't hurt to put discussion before the title though. My thoughts about asking for ETA's is like the same as asking does anyone know when a chicken is going to fall out of the sky and rip my heart out. Lol
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