Hoping not to offend anyone,
but I just got my note and I'm wondering about the following (can't find the explanation in the rom topics or anywere else)
Are there 4.2 roms out that include the S-pen functionality?
Or will the pen be useless when I flash one of them?
Does the rom need to be TW based to use the S-Pen or are that specific apps that have to be included?
I was also wondering if I flash a plain rom, can I add the S-pen functionality myself or does it really has to be baked in?
Sorry about all those questions, but I come from an SII and didn't have to worry about such things.
Thanks in advance!
First you need to read forum rules.. If you are asking questions you should post in Question and answers sections
If you want Spen features, you need Tw as it use proprietary code embedded in TW framework.. Every TW custom rom has the Spen features but neither of the AOSP does and won't ever have them
Tapatalking on my n7100
spen will be shown as mouse pointer on aosp roms thus it will work like a mouse but no spen features will work like airview etc.
Sorry about the wrong forum, I guess I misread the Q&A part.
So that probably means waiting until Samsung releases 4.2 for the note so the rom builders can base on that.
I was hoping it was possible to add the necessary files to an AOSP rom, guess not. Thanks!
gaurav2009 said:
spen will be shown as mouse pointer on aosp roms thus it will work like a mouse but no spen features will work like airview etc.
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The things I would miss most for now would be the samsung keyboard and note app. Maybe after a while I would begin using other features but for now I'm still getting used to using the pen (I don't always remember I have one)
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I miss the days when people actually used the search button.
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UtkarshGupta said:
I miss the days when people actually used the search button.
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Really? Search for what? Been looking for this for about two weeks now. Please tell me what words to look for.
I miss the days when people didn't get the "search" reply when asking a question.
svenM said:
Really? Search for what? Been looking for this for about two weeks now. Please tell me what words to look for.
I miss the days when people didn't get the "search" reply when asking a question.
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Android 4.2 or spen features.
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Android 4.2 or spen features.
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Thanks for replying,
I have been looking and was quite sure the 4.2 roms wouldn't have those features. The only thing I wasn't sure about was whether the features could be installed afterwards as an addition or not. I'm guessing they aren't.
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Hey guys, I was just wondering if it was possible to add (or install) TouchWiz 4.0 on AOKP Jelly Bean?
If so, what would be the process? I really miss TouchWiz but LOVE Jelly Bean.
Hypercore said:
Hey guys, I was just wondering if it was possible to add (or install) TouchWiz 4.0 on AOKP Jelly Bean?
If so, what would be the process? I really miss TouchWiz but LOVE Jelly Bean.
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Might be possible of someone were to dedicate their life to it, but no one cares about it enough to attempt.
You are just going to have to wait for either ports of the international jelly bean release or official or leaked versions of i747 jellybean.
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If it is just the look you want there are themes in aokp that look like touch wiz. As for the features. .. Good luck with that
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Ariel 2.6 is AOKP but has a custom sense launcher. I think, at least.
Hypercore said:
Ariel 2.6 is AOKP but has a custom sense launcher. I think, at least.
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No. The Ariel ROM is built off the Samsung TouchWiz stock ROM and is still Ice Cream Sandwich. Sense is not involved, that's HTC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846701
TheFiveDots said:
No. The Ariel ROM is built off the Samsung TouchWiz stock ROM and is still Ice Cream Sandwich. Sense is not involved, that's HTC.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1846701
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Oh, okay. My bad my good sir.
Touchwiz is an integrated framework. Samsung downloads the source from Google, modifies it, adds their own BS and bloat, recompiles it, then distributed it. The Touchwiz modifications reach deep into the system libraries. They also add their own libraries. None of which is present in an AOSP ROM. AOSP ROMs are compiled from the stock Google source so none of the library modifications or added libraries exist for any of the Touchwiz apps to work off of.
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X10D3 said:
Touchwiz is an integrated framework. Samsung downloads the source from Google, modifies it, adds their own BS and bloat, recompiles it, then distributed it. The Touchwiz modifications reach deep into the system libraries. They also add their own libraries. None of which is present in an AOSP ROM. AOSP ROMs are compiled from the stock Google source so none of the library modifications or added libraries exist for any of the Touchwiz apps to work off of.
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Good repley
to be honest guy oh posted the op... please use the search button that is above each forum, its really freaking dumb!!! to keep making useless threads that have been answered idk maybe 100 times.. i'm not trying to start anything btw, just letting you know you made the move to a smartphone maybe on of that smartest at that, please use it.... just search the forums.. if you don't find the thread then start one. but this has been asked more than once and the the same answer everytime. If you would google too you could find what you are looking for. i see you are new to this but you have been a member sence 2009, you have had to seen something like this alone the way?? just check is all im getting at. sorry for post.
Thanks for the info guys, did not like the themes at all.
You could lock this thread now if you'd like.
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Good repley
to be honest guy oh posted the op... please use the search button that is above each forum, its really freaking dumb!!! to keep making useless threads that have been answered idk maybe 100 times.. i'm not trying to start anything btw, just letting you know you made the move to a smartphone maybe on of that smartest at that, please use it.... just search the forums.. if you don't find the thread then start one. but this has been asked more than once and the the same answer everytime. If you would google too you could find what you are looking for. i see you are new to this but you have been a member sence 2009, you have had to seen something like this alone the way?? just check is all im getting at. sorry for post.
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I do UTSE. I just couldn`t find anything concrete. Plus, logically, if you ask the questions that YOU want to know and you get the answers its better than going through 50 pages with only one person having the same problem as you.
ok i have a gripe. i'm very new to all this stuff. recently rooted and flashed and all that jazz. i come to this forum to get help and to research before i do anything stupid and brick my phone. and for the most part all my questions are answered without me ever having to post a thing. so thank you so very much. now having said that... some of the senior guys, you know who you are, the experienced "i'm too smart to deal with you morons" posters. give us a break. if you dont want to be bothered with noob questions here's a thought... dont reply. or maybe skip over the thread. please stop making us inexperienced people who are looking for advice and help too intimidated to post anything. i've gone through 5 threads in the last 15 minutes with some jerk trying to prove to us how stupid and moronic we are. if you don't want to help then shutup and carry on with your day. i'm sure you learned how to be polite and have some manners back in kindergarden.
thanks and sorry for the rant.
Alright, I am not saying that its bad. I have been flashing custom roms for last 3-4 yrs now but on my prevous phone it made sense since it was stuck on Gingerbread. The custom roms gave me 4.2.2 which was hell of a jump. But with note 2 .. all the custom features that are built in stock roms are pretty much gone with flashing custom roms. I see these as going backwards. The spen functionality is completely gone. Yes, you can install some custom apps but they dont have the same features as the stock. Also the sensor features, built in browser, multi window .. all are gone. I have been using paranoid 3.1 for about 2 months now and didnt really see any difference.. other than the tablet mode which is neat but nothing useful per se. pie controls were hard to use, and pretty buggy. Would disappear every now n then. Its fancy but not practical.
So now my question is.. whats are some of the key features that you are missing in stock and you get in custom that you are willing to let go of some useful features in stock? I am definitely missing something here and would like to learn from you..
I am thinking of going back to stock and rooting it ..
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Alright, I am not saying that its bad. I have been flashing custom roms for last 3-4 yrs now but on my prevous phone it made sense since it was stuck on Gingerbread. The custom roms gave me 4.2.2 which was hell of a jump. But with note 2 .. all the custom features that are built in stock roms are pretty much gone with flashing custom roms. I see these as going backwards. The spen functionality is completely gone. Yes, you can install some custom apps but they dont have the same features as the stock. Also the sensor features, built in browser, multi window .. all are gone. I have been using paranoid 3.1 for about 2 months now and didnt really see any difference.. other than the tablet mode which is neat but nothing useful per se. pie controls were hard to use, and pretty buggy. Would disappear every now n then. Its fancy but not practical.
So now my question is.. whats are some of the key features that you are missing in stock and you get in custom that you are willing to let go of some useful features in stock? I am definitely missing something here and would like to learn from you..
I am thinking of going back to stock and rooting it ..
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Sounds like you meant to ask why flash a AOSP rom not just a "custom rom" because most tw roms still have all the functionality you are saying is lost. To answer your question that is the great thing about Android. ..choice you have the choice to install it or not.
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Sounds like you meant to ask why flash a AOSP rom not just a "custom rom" because most tw roms still have all the functionality you are saying is lost. To answer your question that is the great thing about Android. ..choice you have the choice to install it or not.
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Now thats my other dilemma... how do i know whats a TW rom? I always found just one TW rom in the subject.. I went inside some ROM threads and didnt see any mention of whether they are TW or not?
hardrock121 said:
Now thats my other dilemma... how do i know whats a TW rom? I always found just one TW rom in the subject.. I went inside some ROM threads and didnt see any mention of whether they are TW or not?
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You can tell very easily first off by the screenshots aosp and tw do not look the same. Secondly with aosp you have to flash gapps. Third they are in two seperate forums. That is just a few of the many ways you can tell.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1895 TouchWiz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1896 AOSP
For what you are wanting in your OP or your statements sounds like you spent last few months in the wrong forum
hardrock121 said:
Now thats my other dilemma... how do i know whats a TW rom? I always found just one TW rom in the subject.. I went inside some ROM threads and didnt see any mention of whether they are TW or not?
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If you see mention of a firmware revision like ma7 or LJC, then you're dealing with a Twiz rom.
However with AOSP roms... The spen does work in its basic capability.
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hardrock121 said:
Now thats my other dilemma... how do i know whats a TW rom? I always found just one TW rom in the subject.. I went inside some ROM threads and didnt see any mention of whether they are TW or not?
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The ones in Android development are tw the ones in original development are aosp .... generally speaking
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evolutioncsr said:
You can tell very easily first off by the screenshots aosp and tw do not look the same. Secondly with aosp you have to flash gapps. Third they are in two seperate forums. That is just a few of the many ways you can tell.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1895 TouchWiz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1896 AOSP
For what you are wanting in your OP or your statements sounds like you spent last few months in the wrong forum
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AAahhhh,... moment of revelation.:angel::angel:. I was always in the original dev thread... this is a new addition i assume in the last 6-8 months? On my previous phone threads.. there was no original/non original. Anyways.. let me **** around the touchwiz thread and see what I find. I might be just a fool for not noticing that. Thanks!
Epix4G said:
The ones in Android development are tw the ones in original development are aosp .... generally speaking
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Suggest me one TW rom .. I want to try
hardrock121 said:
AAahhhh,... moment of revelation.:angel::angel:. I was always in the original dev thread... this is a new addition i assume in the last 6-8 months? On my previous phone threads.. there was no original/non original. Anyways.. let me **** around the touchwiz thread and see what I find. I might be just a fool for not noticing that. Thanks!
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It has been like this as long as I know even when I had the S3 but I can't speak of anything prior to the S3 on Samsung.
evolutioncsr said:
It has been like this as long as I know even when I had the S3 but I can't speak of anything prior to the S3 on Samsung.
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It changed about march or so last year. Not all devices have both forums either, only the really popular ones/non legacy
☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆
I like to break stuff!
-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
It changed about march or so last year. Not all devices have both forums either, only the really popular ones/non legacy
☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆
I like to break stuff!
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Thanks for the clarification.
hardrock121 said:
Alright, I am not saying that its bad. I have been flashing custom roms for last 3-4 yrs now but on my prevous phone it made sense since it was stuck on Gingerbread. The custom roms gave me 4.2.2 which was hell of a jump. But with note 2 .. all the custom features that are built in stock roms are pretty much gone with flashing custom roms. I see these as going backwards. The spen functionality is completely gone. Yes, you can install some custom apps but they dont have the same features as the stock. Also the sensor features, built in browser, multi window .. all are gone. I have been using paranoid 3.1 for about 2 months now and didnt really see any difference.. other than the tablet mode which is neat but nothing useful per se. pie controls were hard to use, and pretty buggy. Would disappear every now n then. Its fancy but not practical.
So now my question is.. whats are some of the key features that you are missing in stock and you get in custom that you are willing to let go of some useful features in stock? I am definitely missing something here and would like to learn from you..
I am thinking of going back to stock and rooting it ..
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Because Paranoid Android & Tablet Mod are the best thing to happen to this Note! Also because "Whoomp" Rom is based on stock but much better because it gives you options. However I do understand your criticism, whats different this time is "Touch Jizz" doesn't suck as bad as previous versions and its actually becoming a bit of a highlight with its built in features.
However we will always want to flash roms because like beautiful women "there's always someone tired of F_____g them"! Something new even if isn't superior!:good:
samsmalls said:
Because Paranoid Android & Tablet Mod are the best thing to happen to this Note! Also because "Whoomp" Rom is based on stock but much better because it gives you options. However I do understand your criticism, whats different this time is "Touch Jizz" doesn't suck as bad as previous versions and its actually becoming a bit of a highlight with its built in features.
However we will always want to flash roms because like beautiful women "there's always someone tired of F_____g them"! Something new even if isn't superior!:good:
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:laugh::laugh::laugh::laugh:
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I found which ROMs have SPEN support in the Note 2 forum, but I didn't find anything in the Note 3 forum especially for T-Mobile.
So, is there a list or does know which of the custom rooted 4.4.2 ROMs have SPEN support?
I found this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658959
However, it doesn't say exactly which ones are TouchWiz and/or support SPEN.
I'm looking for something debloated, and stable. I know CM doesn't have SPEN support so I'm trying to find something that does.
Any help would be most appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
sanjsrik said:
I found which ROMs have SPEN support in the Note 2 forum, but I didn't find anything in the Note 3 forum especially for T-Mobile.
So, is there a list or does know which of the custom rooted 4.4.2 ROMs have SPEN support?
I found this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2658959
However, it doesn't say exactly which ones are TouchWiz and/or support SPEN.
I'm looking for something debloated, and stable. I know CM doesn't have SPEN support so I'm trying to find something that does.
Any help would be most appreciated.
Thank you in advance.
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As a rule all AOSP, AOKP or any other variation of CM build has to/ be labeled as such. Any that are not labled. NA2-NB7 are all touchwiz roms.
confused by the answer
dragonstalker said:
As a rule all AOSP, AOKP or any other variation of CM build has to/ be labeled as such. Any that are not labled. NA2-NB7 are all touchwiz roms.
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Thank you but your response is a bit confusing...
What do you mean, "Any that are NOT labeled. NA2-NB7 are all touchwiz"???
what do you mean any that are not labeled. I ask because the way you wrote it I am wondering what you mean, any that are not labeled AOSP/AOKP or any that ARE labeled NA2-NB7 are touchwiz?
The one sentence in the middle is what is confusing. Any that are not labeled. Labeled as what?
Could you please clarify?
Thank you.
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Thank you but your response is a bit confusing...
What do you mean, "Any that are NOT labeled. NA2-NB7 are all touchwiz"???
what do you mean any that are not labeled. I ask because the way you wrote it I am wondering what you mean, any that are not labeled AOSP/AOKP or any that ARE labeled NA2-NB7 are touchwiz?
The one sentence in the middle is what is confusing. Any that are not labeled. Labeled as what?
Could you please clarify?
Thank you.
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Any that are not labeled as CM roms. If you see NA2 - NB7, then they are touchwiz roms.
dragonstalker said:
Any that are not labeled as CM roms. If you see NA2 - NB7, then they are touchwiz roms.
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Thank you for the clarification. I was used to using nightlys from CM when I had my S3, this whole touchwiz world is new to me.
Thank you again.
Installed aosb_kk_1.3.2_n7100 Rom & After abt 8 roms forgot if samsung account was available when starting Rom install....
Basically I don't have samsung account apps Nor samsung account to add..
Just want all the S-pen apps .... Any Help guys...Some1 with knowledge as I've lost mine.....#
Dont't want to install with full wipe as It's taken ages to get the look I Needed..
Here's the Samsung store app but I'm not sure what spen/Samsung apps work on aosp roms
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uxlvat9ch...gapps.ver.14040104.21.007.0.build.4210076.apk
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sawdoctor said:
Here's the Samsung store app but I'm not sure what spen/Samsung apps work on aosp roms
https://www.dropbox.com/s/uxlvat9ch...gapps.ver.14040104.21.007.0.build.4210076.apk
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really appreciate upload....Phone won't install file..driving me mad this is....oh well...Thx again
To run S-Pen features you got to install Touchwiz Roms, not AOSB, AOSP or others from Android Original Development. Last don't support the stylus and it's possibilities.
Androidwizzard said:
To run S-Pen features you got to install Touchwiz Roms, not AOSB, AOSP or others from Android Original Development. Last don't support the stylus and it's possibilities.
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So there are no AOSP ROM's or Any Mod's which can support any of S-Pen features?? I wanted to try one of those but without S-Pen functionality its kind of No No.
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So there are no AOSP ROM's or Any Mod's which can support any of S-Pen features?? I wanted to try one of those but without S-Pen functionality its kind of No No.
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S-Pen features need Samsung Touchwiz UI which AOSPs don't have, so: NO WAY
Androidwizzard said:
S-Pen features need Samsung Touchwiz UI which AOSPs don't have, so: NO WAY
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Ohh ok.. I hope someday it gets changed..
Mufi_t said:
Ohh ok.. I hope someday it gets changed..
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Can't as it is closed Samsung source so it can't be added to open source projects
Bat cave One
People will never understand that AOSP Android =/= Samsung TW Android. If you wanted Samsung's S Pen features, you'll have to go for a stock Samsung ROM. AOSP wasn't designed with Samsung's proprietary features in mind.
It's so hard to explain it to people who refuse to understand.
vantt1 said:
People will never understand that AOSP Android =/= Samsung TW Android. If you wanted Samsung's S Pen features, you'll have to go for a stock Samsung ROM. AOSP wasn't designed with Samsung's proprietary features in mind.
It's so hard to explain it to people who refuse to understand.
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Thx guys installed apps needed for s-pen.........so all ok..thx.....
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Thx guys installed apps needed for s-pen.........so all ok..thx.....
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Care to share which apps you used? I used to use AOKP, but then switched to Ditto Note 3 because I wanted the Samsung S Pen suite, HDMI out and a camera that actually works properly.
vantt1 said:
Care to share which apps you used? I used to use AOKP, but then switched to Ditto Note 3 because I wanted the Samsung S Pen suite, HDMI out and a camera that actually works properly.
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Autodesk sketchbookpro/calulator/filenote/freenote/gtasks/keep/lecturenotes/papyrus
Just basic stuff ..... Also using gesture from within Rom to activate an App..... Prob nowhere near as good as stuff you get with DN3!
EDIT: oops, sorry for the bad engrish in the subject
I've been struggling with this for awhile. CM11 and every AOSP ROM I use on S4 causes a bad echo while using a bluetooth ear piece for anyone on the other end. TW roms like hyperdrive work fine as long as I disable noise reduction/suppression. Does anyone know if there is a fix for this? I really would rather use a bare bones or slightly modified AOSP ROM then the bloated samsung hackup ROMs.
Questions dont go in this forum bud. Q&A section for questions.
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EDIT: oops, sorry for the bad engrish in the subject
I've been struggling with this for awhile. CM11 and every AOSP ROM I use on S4 causes a bad echo while using a bluetooth ear piece for anyone on the other end. TW roms like hyperdrive work fine as long as I disable noise reduction/suppression. Does anyone know if there is a fix for this? I really would rather use a bare bones or slightly modified AOSP ROM then the bloated samsung hackup ROMs.
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Just use a Google edition rom than. It's made by Google for the galaxy s4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2539361
And yes questions don't go here.
~Sent From My Insane S4~
thanks ill give this a shot! sorry for my rule breaking
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Just use a Google edition rom than. It's made by Google for the galaxy s4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2539361
And yes questions don't go here.
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Nope, same problem. Echo is still there. It could be built in noise suppression doing it. If I could figure out how to disable that (its not a menu item like in other ROMs) then maybe it would work. back to hyperdrive for now.
SelfElevated2 said:
Just use a Google edition rom than. It's made by Google for the galaxy s4.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2539361
And yes questions don't go here.
~Sent From My Insane S4~
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