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Pure android theme/rom/tweak? (not w/ sprint ID)

Hey all, this is one of my first post here, but I have been a user since the original Moto Droid. Before asking any questions I wanted to thank EVERYONE here who has helped me & the Mods for keeping this place so neat and clean!
Does anyone know of a way to get the pure android experience on this phone? (i.e. sms, dialer, icons, lock screen, etc) Like what comes on the new Galaxy Nexus!?
Please forgive me if this has been addressed already, I couldn't find anything with any solutions or definite answers.
Thanks!

thepromised said:
Hey all, this is one of my first post here, but I have been a user since the original Moto Droid. Before asking any questions I wanted to thank EVERYONE here who has helped me & the Mods for keeping this place so neat and clean!
Does anyone know of a way to get the pure android experience on this phone? (i.e. sms, dialer, icons, lock screen, etc) Like what comes on the new Galaxy Nexus!?
Please forgive me if this has been addressed already, I couldn't find anything with any solutions or definite answers.
Thanks!
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Your answer is
AOKP
CM9
Codename
Those are as stock they can get
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Yup, or Codename, they are based off Android Open Source Project but have a few tweaks and tons of settings to play with.

Thanks for the fast replies! Clicked the button for you both.
I was hoping for a way to just strip it like you could senseUI on the Evo.

thepromised said:
Thanks for the fast replies! Clicked the button for you both.
I was hoping for a way to just strip it like you could senseUI on the Evo.
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There used to be some bare roms, but now now with ICS going on, it seems gingerbread roms are going away.
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A couple themers are actually in the process right now of making a sense ui theme no sure when it will end up happening but you may wanna wait for that

xST4T1K said:
A couple themers are actually in the process right now of making a sense ui theme no sure when it will end up happening but you may wanna wait for that
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Awesome, I will wait a while and see what happens. I'm fairly please to be stuck with this theme if I'm forced to have one.
Running Caulkins v3 now for optimized battery.
Thanks everyone for your help and replies!

I found something that I am 100% happy with and thought I would share for others.
I used Caulkins Rom found here ~~> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1332837
And the ACS ICS theme found here ~~>
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1322272&highlight=pure+android
And came up with a very fast, battery saving, pure(ish) android experience.

Weekly ICS ROM Updates

Hi all,
I am going through all the threads that have ics based roms for our phone and thought it might be a good idea if we had a communal collation of all ics roms that are active in this forum with provided chainlogs and small reviews of said rom and what issues they have.
Reason for this is simple, to help other users that are not confident in flashing up to 4.0.3 unaware that they may run into something that they did not bargain for.. Hopefully this way we
A) Get a general run down each week as to what rom is working well which are not.
B) Issues/bugs.
C) Reviews of what works and not.
D) Temp fixable issues ie: auto rotation.
E) May help in less clutter in actual development thread.
I thought I would put this out see if anyone agrees here. I am more than welcome that if we use this thread as a starting point.
In no way shape or form that this thread will be used as a means of competitiveness between devs, to start flaming in any sort of fashion, this is purely a thread designed to help everyone with ics progression where its at, what dev's are up too and which would be safe to flash and what is not and is for experimental use.
Hopefully this could be a useful thread, with the dev's permission in doing this of course
Cheers.

I like the idea

+1 to this idea!!

There are already Q&A threads for each of the ROM's. Why make the board more cluttered than it already is by re-posting what is already in those threads?
People need to learn to use the search function and stop being lazy and actually take the time to read a thread every now and then. A thread like this will do nothing but enable the lazy to be even less productive and will not help. You will just see the same questions asked here over and over and over and over and over just like in all the other threads.
Also if people would read a damn OP like they are supposed to before flashing a ROM they would already know what does and doesn't work and if the ROM is a RC or experimental.

+1
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DannyB513 said:
There are already Q&A threads for each of the ROM's. Why make the board more cluttered than it already is by re-posting what is already in those threads?
People need to learn to use the search function and stop being lazy and actually take the time to read a thread every now and then. A thread like this will do nothing but enable the lazy to be even less productive and will not help. You will just see the same questions asked here over and over and over and over and over just like in all the other threads.
Also if people would read a damn OP like they are supposed to before flashing a ROM they would already know what does and doesn't work and if the ROM is a RC or experimental.
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Valued response, and yes using the search tool does help, but. rather than searching for what is needed why don't we have one thread to sum up on all progression? This thread is not designed to have countless questions all this is to gather weekly updates on ics roms from there respected developer. If someone wanted to ask questions they should be directed to the respected Q&A thread as they have there own. If someone wishes to choose to read up on what is happening in the world of ics t989 development then they come here nothing more nothing less.
As this wouldn't be hard to do at every week commencing someone can be anyone can choose to post up any sort of update to any rom and that is valid for that week only... then make up another thread so for example this one wouldn't spiral out of control and inform a mod to delete or close thread... simple that way it would stay fresh relevant with what we want to know, and of course anyone can participate in this.
Again thanks for your input, I'm not saying this is what we should be doing but a suggestion to everyone and see if this would make life a little easier on some. Alternatively if you don't like it then don't post anything worth mentioning and leave for people who could benefit from it
Cheers.

Issues for all ICS Roms outside xRavers AOSP
Autorotation
Possible Issues:
Echo Call
SMS Fail
Gallery Problems
Shutdown Issues
xRaver AOSP -> see xRaver AOSP thread
Pretty much covers it Can end thread pretty soon.

Is anyone working on a ics kernel for our devices?
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tdizzle404 said:
Is anyone working on a ics kernel for our devices?
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i am based off the skyrocket sence we dont have **** for our device....

RaverX3X said:
i am based off the skyrocket sence we dont have **** for our device....
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Cool how's it coming along?
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RaverX3X said:
i am based off the skyrocket sence we dont have **** for our device....
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Hi RaverX3X , and would you mind others or yourself would post up on your current progression of your ics roms and their chainlogs and known issues so that way people who this need only to see the basic stats and if it is suitable for daily use?
Cheers.
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tdizzle404 said:
Cool how's it coming along?
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not as fast as i like but then agian i dont have a whole lot of time to work on it if i could do it 24/7 365 lol prob would have had it done or further then i am now

Agera said:
Hi RaverX3X , and would you mind others or yourself would post up on your current progression of your ics roms and their chainlogs and known issues so that way people who this need only to see the basic stats and if it is suitable for daily use?
Cheers.
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4th post has the chainlog... or third i dono ll go look lol

Gallery Workaround
jim93 said:
Issues for all ICS Roms outside xRavers AOSP
Autorotation
Possible Issues:
Echo Call
SMS Fail
Gallery Problems
Shutdown Issues
xRaver AOSP -> see xRaver AOSP thread
Pretty much covers it Can end thread pretty soon.
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To replace my battery and my camera since it force closes, I use QuickPic as my gallery and Camera zoom FX Pro as my camera. They work pretty well with some minor set backs.

Echo?
Are there any ICS ROMs that do not have an echo????

It seems to be an issue with the flashing process as far as echo goes...easy does it, my DD has no echo...actually while many people have reported that among other bugs the only one I have is the reboot hang...which really...tough **** I have to hold the power button down the few times I need to turn it off lol. Oddly though it does not hang if I reboot into recovery from rom manager.
Ics is really weird...everyone is getting different bugs following the same install process. I'm guessing some of our devices are more willing to adapt to the skyrocket kernel than others...

zander21510 said:
It seems to be an issue with the flashing process as far as echo goes...easy does it, my DD has no echo...actually while many people have reported that among other bugs the only one I have is the reboot hang...which really...tough **** I have to hold the power button down the few times I need to turn it off lol. Oddly though it does not hang if I reboot into recovery from rom manager.
Ics is really weird...everyone is getting different bugs following the same install process. I'm guessing some of our devices are more willing to adapt to the skyrocket kernel than others...
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Guess you got the one with the magic bean.

Well before I went on vacation Tuesday I was playing around with a few of the different ics that are there for tmo gs2 and found that a lot of issues went away when I unmounted the SD card. The camera had no problem and I didn't notice any echoed sound. Kind of strange but one thing I noticed that a lot of native ics devices don't have external SD cards. Might be something for devs to look at.
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retrofred said:
Well before I went on vacation Tuesday I was playing around with a few of the different ics that are there for tmo gs2 and found that a lot of issues went away when I unmounted the SD card. The camera had no problem and I didn't notice any echoed sound. Kind of strange but one thing I noticed that a lot of native ics devices don't have external SD cards. Might be something for devs to look at.
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tried like you said... not true on my phone... either way it does not work.

Rather than start another thread, while perusing the amaze forum I stumbled.upon info on CM9..
According to this https://plus.google.com/106544349933037831956/posts/4Lpyw9bPBCq
Which is the Google+ page of the dev in charge of maintaining CM9 on the amaze, no cyanogen dev is currently.working on our device. Sad to see but figured I'd share for those ccurious
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[Q] Request Best theme for tw Base..port from Int.Galaxy note II

Can somebody trying..to make this theme work whit tw base roms for Note 2 sprint . I pay whatever to get my phone work whit this theme som. Work on this it will going to be a hit....
Delicious theme ...
Trust me work on it and you will like it.
Sorry I dont know how to uploaded it but you can find on
GT-N7100 themes thread the name is
Elegant theme is:
147Mb size ...
Pelease somebody read this and work out....
Thanks people my first post ... want good news

I presume this is the theme the OP is talking about?
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2043767

Sorry it is Verizon note 2 trhead themes.....
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2182418
This is the theme watch it ....and tell me if I was worng ...is A ****ing good job...

Themes have been to a minimal around here because of Aroma...just sayin

vWvSTATICvWv said:
Themes have been to a minimal around here because of Aroma...just sayin
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What does aroma have to do with it? Many here prefer the unthemed roms. That's why my rom is a stock base, even tho I prefer a theme. Themes are a add on in my updater so that everyone wins.
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I'm saying that because of Aroma you can pretty much do whatever you like to an extent....therefore, there aren't many devs themeing. If we didn't have the luxury of Aroma, this section would definitely have at least a handful of themes.

vWvSTATICvWv said:
I'm saying that because of Aroma you can pretty much do whatever you like to an extent....therefore, there aren't many devs themeing. If we didn't have the luxury of Aroma, this section would definitely have at least a handful of themes.
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That has nothing to do with stand alone themes. 1 developer making a theme aroma installer doesn't stop the entire forums. Joshbeach has his own theme applied to his rom. Sleshepic has his own theme applied. My rom has available themes.
Those who usually make stand alone themes are the ones who don't have there own rom, so they make a universal theme. It wouldn't make sense for the rom creators to make universal themes on top of their rom.
I also believe the community here prevents more themes from being created. Go read a thread like Jellybomb and every page has someone complain about the theme. I assume that's why Sleshepic made a mostly stock themed rom. And that's why my base is mostly stock themed.
I had one member who tried Lab Rats and was bashing it in another rom thread for having a custom boot animation and pull down. What's a rom if there is nothing specific to the rom?
Obviously I'm only speaking on my behalf and my thoughts, not anyone else mentioned in this post.
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fryingpan0613 said:
That has nothing to do with stand alone themes. 1 developer making a theme aroma installer doesn't stop the entire forums. Joshbeach has his own theme applied to his rom. Sleshepic has his own theme applied. My rom has available themes.
Those who usually make stand alone themes are the ones who don't have there own rom, so they make a universal theme. It wouldn't make sense for the rom creators to make universal themes on top of their rom.
I also believe the community here prevents more themes from being created. Go read a thread like Jellybomb and every page has someone complain about the theme. I assume that's why Sleshepic made a mostly stock themed rom. And that's why my base is mostly stock themed.
Obviously I'm only speaking on my behalf and my thoughts, not anyone else mentioned in this post.
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I'm not sure it is the community preventing anything.
People with chops for, or a desire to learn Android OS building/theming usually go right at making a full ROM rather than a theme for another ROM on the Sprint Note 2. That is just the way this device on Sprint has been. Even folks who are admitted beginners at the dev game, basically have taken a handful of standard patches (4-way reboot/all-apps-in-multi-window/Perseus-Kernel for example) applied them to the latest vanilla deodexed ROM and then themed the snot out of it as a new fll ROM rather than a theme patch....when they could have just themed the snot out of someone else's ROM which already basically had all the patches they wanted. I don't mean to single or look down on any one dev or person's work out in that statement, just to be clear. It is just an observation.
Hence the current situation we have...lots of folks of varying ability all pushing out their own themed TWiz ROMs, all with basically the same patches between them. It is an easy comparison to Ubuntu linux, and the dozens (hundreds rather) of themed clones that Ubuntu has....when people could just make a red theme for Ubuntu, rather than using RemasterSys and cooking an entire new Ubuntu Red themed distro.
Where's the community preventing anything? I mean maybe if devs made thorough documentation on how to theme the TWiz ROM available it would help....but that is more work for devs with lives, and that is still not the community at large's fault.

Skripka said:
I'm not sure it is the community preventing anything.
People with chops for, or a desire to learn Android OS building/theming usually go right at making a full ROM rather than a theme for another ROM on the Sprint Note 2. That is just the way this device on Sprint has been. Even folks who are admitted beginners at the dev game, basically have taken a handful of standard patches (4-way reboot/all-apps-in-multi-window/Perseus-Kernel for example) applied them to the latest vanilla deodexed ROM and then themed the snot out of it as a new fll ROM rather than a theme patch....when they could have just themed the snot out of someone else's ROM which already basically had all the patches they wanted. I don't mean to single or look down on any one dev or person's work out in that statement, just to be clear. It is just an observation.
Hence the current situation we have...lots of folks of varying ability all pushing out their own themed TWiz ROMs, all with basically the same patches between them. It is an easy comparison to Ubuntu linux, and the dozens (hundreds rather) of themed clones that Ubuntu has....when people could just make a red theme for Ubuntu, rather than using RemasterSys and cooking an entire new Ubuntu Red themed distro.
Where's the community preventing anything? I mean maybe if devs made thorough documentation on how to theme the TWiz ROM available it would help....but that is more work for devs with lives, and that is still not the community at large's fault.
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I guess I could have worded it better. I didnt mean it's the communities fault there is no themes, I just don't believe there had been much of a desire for them. I have seen more anti theming posts then requests for them in general. Then there is the user above that says all we need is the Aroma theme chooser, if everyone is happy with that, then it doesn't encourage others work. I started with helping anothers rom on my last phone.
I have a few people over here that we have taken under our wing to learn, that's what keeps xda alive. I have answered multiple pm's asking for help, and do my best to help them. It's annoying tho when you repeatedly help someone and they don't even Thank you in the op, but that's a different matter.
There are many tutorials available on how to theme, all you have to do is search. While most roms have some of the same features like 4 in 1 reboot, I believe that's because it's considered a must have to most users.
OP could google how to port it, but chooses not to try or failed and didn't get help. Users should be more proactive in my opinion, but only they can choose to.
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fryingpan0613 said:
I guess I could have worded it better. I didnt mean it's the communities fault there is no themes, I just don't believe there had been much of a desire for them. I have seen more anti theming posts then requests for them in general. Then there is the user above that says all we need is the Aroma theme chooser, if everyone is happy with that, then it doesn't encourage others work. I started with helping anothers rom on my last phone.
I have a few people over here that we have taken under our wing to learn, that's what keeps xda alive. I have answered multiple pm's asking for help, and do my best to help them. It's annoying tho when you repeatedly help someone and they don't even Thank you in the op, but that's a different matter.
There are many tutorials available on how to theme, all you have to do is search. While most roms have some of the same features like 4 in 1 reboot, I believe that's because it's considered a must have to most users.
OP could google how to port it, but chooses not to try or failed and didn't get help. Users should be more proactive in my opinion, but only they can choose to.
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I hadn't seen the theming guides for TWiz for making a theming patch...then again I hadn't looked.
I think most end-user people are usually against it, as theming is a personal choice and what pleases one person inevitably causes 2 more people's eyes to wince in pain. Hence why (the PITA of keeping) Morphology is a cool thing for those that want a themed TWiz....but on the dev side, keeping all of Morphology working is a PITA like I said. We've been swearing at Morphology and MA7 of late behind the scenes.
Users could be more proactive....but at the same time, there's cost and reward and how many headaches you're willing to go to to just change the color of say the SMS or SPen app.

I doubt there is a guide that will tell you where every file is because tw is such a pain with its naming. I couldn't of the top of my head tell you where a lot is, I tear apart apps and find what I think is it and test it. It's a lot of trial and error.
You can Google big parts of it tho, I have done it myself to find stuff when I was stuck. Maybe I will make a thread with some basic locations like status bar pngs. I don't know how many people would find it useful, but I guess we can see how many people are willing to try stuff on there own.
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fryingpan0613 said:
I doubt there is a guide that will tell you where every file is because tw is such a pain with its naming. I couldn't of the top of my head tell you where a lot is, I tear apart apps and find what I think is it and test it. It's a lot of trial and error.
You can Google big parts of it tho, I have done it myself to find stuff when I was stuck. Maybe I will make a thread with some basic locations like status bar pngs. I don't know how many people would find it useful, but I guess we can see how many people are willing to try stuff on there own.
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Well...and as soon as such a database or wiki document or whatever is compiled....the next TWiz update will render all of it obsolete.

Theming touchwiz is a pita because the roms are all different. My theme is based on stock, and it actually comes from my own rom, but it has taken me many, many hours to get it the way I want it. First you spend a ton of time themeing the stock rom, then devs come out with tweaked roms, and now people want you to go back and tweak you theme for each rom, or add tweaks that are rom specific to your theme, etc. It also seems like samsung/sprint tweak little bits of stuff between each leak/update so everytime something changes there is a resources that change so you have to recompile the whole freaking thing.

Skripka said:
Well...and as soon as such a database or wiki document or whatever is compiled....the next TWiz update will render all of it obsolete.
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Which is why such list will never be complete. That's why I said basic stuff like signal bars, battery, etc that shouldn't change much.
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Theming touchwiz is a pita because the roms are all different. My theme is based on stock, and it actually comes from my own rom, but it has taken me many, many hours to get it the way I want it. First you spend a ton of time themeing the stock rom, then devs come out with tweaked roms, and now people want you to go back and tweak you theme for each rom, or add tweaks that are rom specific to your theme, etc. It also seems like samsung/sprint tweak little bits of stuff between each leak/update so everytime something changes there is a resources that change so you have to recompile the whole freaking thing.
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So true. I couldn't imagine making a stand alone theme.
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All right ..Aint nowbody got time for that!!!!!
Jesus this is...
People ok and how I can get this Elegant dialer theme on morphology... Cause Morphology dont have it on options
Make more things .....is boring the same thing and thats is boring...
Aint nowbody got time for that...

eloyho said:
Jesus this is...
People ok and how I can get this Elegant dialer theme on morphology... Cause Morphology dont have it on options
Make more things .....is boring the same thing and thats is boring...
Aint nowbody got time for that...
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Give me $200 and I'll port that theme for you
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Lol jajajajajajajajajaja you [email protected]@###### crazy bro nice try ass
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Why would really need to flash a custom ROM?

Alright, I am not saying that its bad. I have been flashing custom roms for last 3-4 yrs now but on my prevous phone it made sense since it was stuck on Gingerbread. The custom roms gave me 4.2.2 which was hell of a jump. But with note 2 .. all the custom features that are built in stock roms are pretty much gone with flashing custom roms. I see these as going backwards. The spen functionality is completely gone. Yes, you can install some custom apps but they dont have the same features as the stock. Also the sensor features, built in browser, multi window .. all are gone. I have been using paranoid 3.1 for about 2 months now and didnt really see any difference.. other than the tablet mode which is neat but nothing useful per se. pie controls were hard to use, and pretty buggy. Would disappear every now n then. Its fancy but not practical.
So now my question is.. whats are some of the key features that you are missing in stock and you get in custom that you are willing to let go of some useful features in stock? I am definitely missing something here and would like to learn from you..
I am thinking of going back to stock and rooting it ..

hardrock121 said:
Alright, I am not saying that its bad. I have been flashing custom roms for last 3-4 yrs now but on my prevous phone it made sense since it was stuck on Gingerbread. The custom roms gave me 4.2.2 which was hell of a jump. But with note 2 .. all the custom features that are built in stock roms are pretty much gone with flashing custom roms. I see these as going backwards. The spen functionality is completely gone. Yes, you can install some custom apps but they dont have the same features as the stock. Also the sensor features, built in browser, multi window .. all are gone. I have been using paranoid 3.1 for about 2 months now and didnt really see any difference.. other than the tablet mode which is neat but nothing useful per se. pie controls were hard to use, and pretty buggy. Would disappear every now n then. Its fancy but not practical.
So now my question is.. whats are some of the key features that you are missing in stock and you get in custom that you are willing to let go of some useful features in stock? I am definitely missing something here and would like to learn from you..
I am thinking of going back to stock and rooting it ..
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Sounds like you meant to ask why flash a AOSP rom not just a "custom rom" because most tw roms still have all the functionality you are saying is lost. To answer your question that is the great thing about Android. ..choice you have the choice to install it or not.

evolutioncsr said:
Sounds like you meant to ask why flash a AOSP rom not just a "custom rom" because most tw roms still have all the functionality you are saying is lost. To answer your question that is the great thing about Android. ..choice you have the choice to install it or not.
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Now thats my other dilemma... how do i know whats a TW rom? I always found just one TW rom in the subject.. I went inside some ROM threads and didnt see any mention of whether they are TW or not?

hardrock121 said:
Now thats my other dilemma... how do i know whats a TW rom? I always found just one TW rom in the subject.. I went inside some ROM threads and didnt see any mention of whether they are TW or not?
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You can tell very easily first off by the screenshots aosp and tw do not look the same. Secondly with aosp you have to flash gapps. Third they are in two seperate forums. That is just a few of the many ways you can tell.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1895 TouchWiz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1896 AOSP
For what you are wanting in your OP or your statements sounds like you spent last few months in the wrong forum

hardrock121 said:
Now thats my other dilemma... how do i know whats a TW rom? I always found just one TW rom in the subject.. I went inside some ROM threads and didnt see any mention of whether they are TW or not?
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If you see mention of a firmware revision like ma7 or LJC, then you're dealing with a Twiz rom.
However with AOSP roms... The spen does work in its basic capability.
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hardrock121 said:
Now thats my other dilemma... how do i know whats a TW rom? I always found just one TW rom in the subject.. I went inside some ROM threads and didnt see any mention of whether they are TW or not?
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The ones in Android development are tw the ones in original development are aosp .... generally speaking
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evolutioncsr said:
You can tell very easily first off by the screenshots aosp and tw do not look the same. Secondly with aosp you have to flash gapps. Third they are in two seperate forums. That is just a few of the many ways you can tell.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1895 TouchWiz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1896 AOSP
For what you are wanting in your OP or your statements sounds like you spent last few months in the wrong forum
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AAahhhh,... moment of revelation.:angel::angel:. I was always in the original dev thread... this is a new addition i assume in the last 6-8 months? On my previous phone threads.. there was no original/non original. Anyways.. let me **** around the touchwiz thread and see what I find. I might be just a fool for not noticing that. Thanks!

Epix4G said:
The ones in Android development are tw the ones in original development are aosp .... generally speaking
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Suggest me one TW rom .. I want to try

hardrock121 said:
AAahhhh,... moment of revelation.:angel::angel:. I was always in the original dev thread... this is a new addition i assume in the last 6-8 months? On my previous phone threads.. there was no original/non original. Anyways.. let me **** around the touchwiz thread and see what I find. I might be just a fool for not noticing that. Thanks!
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It has been like this as long as I know even when I had the S3 but I can't speak of anything prior to the S3 on Samsung.

evolutioncsr said:
It has been like this as long as I know even when I had the S3 but I can't speak of anything prior to the S3 on Samsung.
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It changed about march or so last year. Not all devices have both forums either, only the really popular ones/non legacy
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I like to break stuff!

-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
It changed about march or so last year. Not all devices have both forums either, only the really popular ones/non legacy
☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆
I like to break stuff!
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Thanks for the clarification.

hardrock121 said:
Alright, I am not saying that its bad. I have been flashing custom roms for last 3-4 yrs now but on my prevous phone it made sense since it was stuck on Gingerbread. The custom roms gave me 4.2.2 which was hell of a jump. But with note 2 .. all the custom features that are built in stock roms are pretty much gone with flashing custom roms. I see these as going backwards. The spen functionality is completely gone. Yes, you can install some custom apps but they dont have the same features as the stock. Also the sensor features, built in browser, multi window .. all are gone. I have been using paranoid 3.1 for about 2 months now and didnt really see any difference.. other than the tablet mode which is neat but nothing useful per se. pie controls were hard to use, and pretty buggy. Would disappear every now n then. Its fancy but not practical.
So now my question is.. whats are some of the key features that you are missing in stock and you get in custom that you are willing to let go of some useful features in stock? I am definitely missing something here and would like to learn from you..
I am thinking of going back to stock and rooting it ..
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Because Paranoid Android & Tablet Mod are the best thing to happen to this Note! Also because "Whoomp" Rom is based on stock but much better because it gives you options. However I do understand your criticism, whats different this time is "Touch Jizz" doesn't suck as bad as previous versions and its actually becoming a bit of a highlight with its built in features.
However we will always want to flash roms because like beautiful women "there's always someone tired of F_____g them"! Something new even if isn't superior!:good:

samsmalls said:
Because Paranoid Android & Tablet Mod are the best thing to happen to this Note! Also because "Whoomp" Rom is based on stock but much better because it gives you options. However I do understand your criticism, whats different this time is "Touch Jizz" doesn't suck as bad as previous versions and its actually becoming a bit of a highlight with its built in features.
However we will always want to flash roms because like beautiful women "there's always someone tired of F_____g them"! Something new even if isn't superior!:good:
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[Q] kinda would like to see some ICS help please?

Okay, so I've had i317 for about 4 months now, its a great phone. I would just love to see an ics 4.0.4 rom, be it stock or aosp,, aokp, etc for this device. The reason being is that there are alot of apps I used to use, such as UMA and a few others I cannot remember as of right now. Forgive me if this isn't the correct area to post the question lol. But can anyone possibly help me with my issue I'm having? A. ort or something would be ideal if possible.
On a side note: I have some prior knowledge with developing roms and getting them to work fully and such, like betas alphas and what not. just haven't gave much thought as to post on the forum untill now. So I'm not completely of the noob calibur so to speak.
Lastly, my final question, would anyone be interested in deving up a 100% pure custom 4.3 rom that is completely Pokemon themed right down to the contacts and dialer. I will include more detail upon request, also one that isn't 10.1 based or cm in general. The reason I say non cm based is because volume+ sound boost breaks the speaker and crackles pretty badly, and i am partialy deaf so the apk is much needed. Any help would be be very appreciated and id be eternally greatful.

ghost_user said:
Okay, so I've had i317 for about 4 months now, its a great phone. I would just love to see an ics 4.0.4 rom, be it stock or aosp,, aokp, etc for this device. The reason being is that there are alot of apps I used to use, such as UMA and a few others I cannot remember as of right now. Forgive me if this isn't the correct area to post the question lol. But can anyone possibly help me with my issue I'm having? A. ort or something would be ideal if possible.
On a side note: I have some prior knowledge with developing roms and getting them to work fully and such, like betas alphas and what not. just haven't gave much thought as to post on the forum untill now. So I'm not completely of the noob calibur so to speak.
Lastly, my final question, would anyone be interested in deving up a 100% pure custom 4.3 rom that is completely Pokemon themed right down to the contacts and dialer. I will include more detail upon request, also one that isn't 10.1 based or cm in general. The reason I say non cm based is because volume+ sound boost breaks the speaker and crackles pretty badly, and i am partialy deaf so the apk is much needed. Any help would be be very appreciated and id be eternally greatful.
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It's not going to happen. The note 2 was shipped with 4.1.1 (or higher) so there is no 4.0 source for devs to work with.
Also, since pretty much every AOSP rom uses the CM Theme Manager, it's not that common to see themed roms (there are exceptions, but they tend to be lightly themed). Either find a CM theme to your liking or learn to theme your rom.

Sorry my friend...
You aren't the only one wanting it...
I'd even take a nice CM6 ROM for this device...
But as mentioned... It's just a dream... g
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jibust said:
It's not going to happen. The note 2 was shipped with 4.1.1 (or higher) so there is no 4.0 source for devs to work with.
Also, since pretty much every AOSP rom uses the CM Theme Manager, it's not that common to see themed roms (there are exceptions, but they tend to be lightly themed). Either find a CM theme to your liking or learn to theme your rom.[/QUOTE
Okay, well shoot. Could you at least tell me that the possibility to get an apk to adapt and work on a newer rom is possible? I ask this because the main reason for me asking a dream question is simply that I love the ultimate mobile armor apk. it is the best privacy apk ever thought of. It was removed for reasons unknown. Back when I had my S3 and I717, it worked on both. Sadly it will not stick on the rooms I run currently. (Cleanrom 5.0, lionrom 2.1, etc.) Could the scripts and such be altered somehow for it to be compatible? On the S3 I always ran cm10 and its stick. Any thoughts, ideas and suggestions that are helpful and or leading to an apk exactly similar to ultimate mobile armour would be greatly appreciated.
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Apk alteration is very possible ...
The trick is finding a dev to work it out ...and since apps are owned by their respective creators ...you would need permission from him/her to use or modify the code...
And I've always said it ...
A few emails and pm's go a long way..
Hit up the dev and see what you can learn ...g
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gregsarg said:
Apk alteration is very possible ...
The trick is finding a dev to work it out ...and since apps are owned by their respective creators ...you would need permission from him/her to use or modify the code...
And I've always said it ...
A few emails and pm's go a long way..
Hit up the dev and see what you can learn ...g
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Ive looked and searched and I've found nothing from the devs of this apk. Its been completely stricken from the web. What are my other options here as far as these apk Modding concerns go? I've found nothing for secure mobile sadly.

I see...
That being said ...it appears the app has been killed off for legal reasons ??
And lookout mobile is inferior how ??
Most of these security apps are monitored via 3rd party in addition to device activity ...
So it stands to reason that if your service for the apk is dead....it won't work anyway..
Best advice...pick an alternate and move forward....
Lookout and AVG are both exceptional ...and many others are available ..
Norton or Mccaffe possibly too...
Happy hunting ...and sorry I couldn't be of more help...g
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