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Why would really need to flash a custom ROM?

Alright, I am not saying that its bad. I have been flashing custom roms for last 3-4 yrs now but on my prevous phone it made sense since it was stuck on Gingerbread. The custom roms gave me 4.2.2 which was hell of a jump. But with note 2 .. all the custom features that are built in stock roms are pretty much gone with flashing custom roms. I see these as going backwards. The spen functionality is completely gone. Yes, you can install some custom apps but they dont have the same features as the stock. Also the sensor features, built in browser, multi window .. all are gone. I have been using paranoid 3.1 for about 2 months now and didnt really see any difference.. other than the tablet mode which is neat but nothing useful per se. pie controls were hard to use, and pretty buggy. Would disappear every now n then. Its fancy but not practical.
So now my question is.. whats are some of the key features that you are missing in stock and you get in custom that you are willing to let go of some useful features in stock? I am definitely missing something here and would like to learn from you..
I am thinking of going back to stock and rooting it ..

hardrock121 said:
Alright, I am not saying that its bad. I have been flashing custom roms for last 3-4 yrs now but on my prevous phone it made sense since it was stuck on Gingerbread. The custom roms gave me 4.2.2 which was hell of a jump. But with note 2 .. all the custom features that are built in stock roms are pretty much gone with flashing custom roms. I see these as going backwards. The spen functionality is completely gone. Yes, you can install some custom apps but they dont have the same features as the stock. Also the sensor features, built in browser, multi window .. all are gone. I have been using paranoid 3.1 for about 2 months now and didnt really see any difference.. other than the tablet mode which is neat but nothing useful per se. pie controls were hard to use, and pretty buggy. Would disappear every now n then. Its fancy but not practical.
So now my question is.. whats are some of the key features that you are missing in stock and you get in custom that you are willing to let go of some useful features in stock? I am definitely missing something here and would like to learn from you..
I am thinking of going back to stock and rooting it ..
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Sounds like you meant to ask why flash a AOSP rom not just a "custom rom" because most tw roms still have all the functionality you are saying is lost. To answer your question that is the great thing about Android. ..choice you have the choice to install it or not.

evolutioncsr said:
Sounds like you meant to ask why flash a AOSP rom not just a "custom rom" because most tw roms still have all the functionality you are saying is lost. To answer your question that is the great thing about Android. ..choice you have the choice to install it or not.
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Now thats my other dilemma... how do i know whats a TW rom? I always found just one TW rom in the subject.. I went inside some ROM threads and didnt see any mention of whether they are TW or not?

hardrock121 said:
Now thats my other dilemma... how do i know whats a TW rom? I always found just one TW rom in the subject.. I went inside some ROM threads and didnt see any mention of whether they are TW or not?
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You can tell very easily first off by the screenshots aosp and tw do not look the same. Secondly with aosp you have to flash gapps. Third they are in two seperate forums. That is just a few of the many ways you can tell.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1895 TouchWiz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1896 AOSP
For what you are wanting in your OP or your statements sounds like you spent last few months in the wrong forum

hardrock121 said:
Now thats my other dilemma... how do i know whats a TW rom? I always found just one TW rom in the subject.. I went inside some ROM threads and didnt see any mention of whether they are TW or not?
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If you see mention of a firmware revision like ma7 or LJC, then you're dealing with a Twiz rom.
However with AOSP roms... The spen does work in its basic capability.
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hardrock121 said:
Now thats my other dilemma... how do i know whats a TW rom? I always found just one TW rom in the subject.. I went inside some ROM threads and didnt see any mention of whether they are TW or not?
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The ones in Android development are tw the ones in original development are aosp .... generally speaking
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evolutioncsr said:
You can tell very easily first off by the screenshots aosp and tw do not look the same. Secondly with aosp you have to flash gapps. Third they are in two seperate forums. That is just a few of the many ways you can tell.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1895 TouchWiz
http://forum.xda-developers.com/forumdisplay.php?f=1896 AOSP
For what you are wanting in your OP or your statements sounds like you spent last few months in the wrong forum
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AAahhhh,... moment of revelation.:angel::angel:. I was always in the original dev thread... this is a new addition i assume in the last 6-8 months? On my previous phone threads.. there was no original/non original. Anyways.. let me **** around the touchwiz thread and see what I find. I might be just a fool for not noticing that. Thanks!

Epix4G said:
The ones in Android development are tw the ones in original development are aosp .... generally speaking
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Suggest me one TW rom .. I want to try

hardrock121 said:
AAahhhh,... moment of revelation.:angel::angel:. I was always in the original dev thread... this is a new addition i assume in the last 6-8 months? On my previous phone threads.. there was no original/non original. Anyways.. let me **** around the touchwiz thread and see what I find. I might be just a fool for not noticing that. Thanks!
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It has been like this as long as I know even when I had the S3 but I can't speak of anything prior to the S3 on Samsung.

evolutioncsr said:
It has been like this as long as I know even when I had the S3 but I can't speak of anything prior to the S3 on Samsung.
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It changed about march or so last year. Not all devices have both forums either, only the really popular ones/non legacy
☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆
I like to break stuff!

-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
It changed about march or so last year. Not all devices have both forums either, only the really popular ones/non legacy
☆SoA: Son's of Android™☆
I like to break stuff!
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Thanks for the clarification.

hardrock121 said:
Alright, I am not saying that its bad. I have been flashing custom roms for last 3-4 yrs now but on my prevous phone it made sense since it was stuck on Gingerbread. The custom roms gave me 4.2.2 which was hell of a jump. But with note 2 .. all the custom features that are built in stock roms are pretty much gone with flashing custom roms. I see these as going backwards. The spen functionality is completely gone. Yes, you can install some custom apps but they dont have the same features as the stock. Also the sensor features, built in browser, multi window .. all are gone. I have been using paranoid 3.1 for about 2 months now and didnt really see any difference.. other than the tablet mode which is neat but nothing useful per se. pie controls were hard to use, and pretty buggy. Would disappear every now n then. Its fancy but not practical.
So now my question is.. whats are some of the key features that you are missing in stock and you get in custom that you are willing to let go of some useful features in stock? I am definitely missing something here and would like to learn from you..
I am thinking of going back to stock and rooting it ..
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Because Paranoid Android & Tablet Mod are the best thing to happen to this Note! Also because "Whoomp" Rom is based on stock but much better because it gives you options. However I do understand your criticism, whats different this time is "Touch Jizz" doesn't suck as bad as previous versions and its actually becoming a bit of a highlight with its built in features.
However we will always want to flash roms because like beautiful women "there's always someone tired of F_____g them"! Something new even if isn't superior!:good:

samsmalls said:
Because Paranoid Android & Tablet Mod are the best thing to happen to this Note! Also because "Whoomp" Rom is based on stock but much better because it gives you options. However I do understand your criticism, whats different this time is "Touch Jizz" doesn't suck as bad as previous versions and its actually becoming a bit of a highlight with its built in features.
However we will always want to flash roms because like beautiful women "there's always someone tired of F_____g them"! Something new even if isn't superior!:good:
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Many questions

Hi all.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 for few days, and i installed a JB rom on it, and there are some things i really love !
So my questions are these :
-Is there any mod, or anything to activate like on the s2/3 when you are in the messaging app, you just put your phone to your ear, and it call the contact that you are texting with ?
-Is there anyway to get the samsung's keyboard on the galaxy nexus ?
-Maybe is there any possibility to get the lockscreen ?
-And is there any mod or something to get the messaging app ?
My device is the GSM Galaxy Nexus (Maguro), running Cataclysm ROM (4.3)
I can change my rom to get these mods.
Thanks four your replys guys, and i hope you understand my english.

Someone please ?

martinko23 said:
Hi all.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 for few days, and i installed a JB rom on it, and there are some things i really love !
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If you have the S2 you are in the wrong section. This section is for the Galaxy Nexus, although I guess my answers will still work for you.
-Is there any mod, or anything to activate like on the s2/3 when you are in the messaging app, you just put your phone to your ear, and it call the contact that you are texting with ?
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There is a direct call feature in some of the modded mms apps. Perhaps some market apps have this feature as well.
-Is there anyway to get the samsung's keyboard on the galaxy nexus ?
-Maybe is there any possibility to get the lockscreen ?
-And is there any mod or something to get the messaging app ?
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Searching for these would be your best bet. If you can't find them, they likely haven't been ported. Good chance the lockscreen is a no. There may be alternatives on the market to get the features you want.

martinko23 said:
Hi all.
I have a Samsung Galaxy S2 for few days, and i installed a JB rom on it, and there are some things i really love !
So my questions are these :
-Is there any mod, or anything to activate like on the s2/3 when you are in the messaging app, you just put your phone to your ear, and it call the contact that you are texting with ?
-Is there anyway to get the samsung's keyboard on the galaxy nexus ?
-Maybe is there any possibility to get the lockscreen ?
-And is there any mod or something to get the messaging app ?
My device is the GSM Galaxy Nexus (Maguro), running Cataclysm ROM (4.3)
I can change my rom to get these mods.
Thanks four your replys guys, and i hope you understand my english.
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So you have an S2 and a Gnex?
So basically you want some Touchwiz on your Pure Google experience...
-No, that's a Touchwiz feature.
-I believe you can sideload the Samsung keyboard apk to your Gnex and install it.
-No, that is also a Touchwiz feature and probably hard as hell to get working/ported.
-Possibly if you sideload the Messaging apk file.

cupfulloflol said:
If you have the S2 you are in the wrong section. This section is for the Galaxy Nexus, although I guess my answers will still work for you.
There is a direct call feature in some of the modded mms apps. Perhaps some market apps have this feature as well.
Searching for these would be your best bet. If you can't find them, they likely haven't been ported. Good chance the lockscreen is a no. There may be alternatives on the market to get the features you want.
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I acrivated it on the s2, i just wanted them on my gnexus
And i searched, and didn't find anything, that's why i asked here.
DroidOnRoids said:
So you have an S2 and a Gnex?
So basically you want some Touchwiz on your Pure Google experience...
-No, that's a Touchwiz feature.
-I believe you can sideload the Samsung keyboard apk to your Gnex and install it.
-No, that is also a Touchwiz feature and probably hard as hell to get working/ported.
-Possibly if you sideload the Messaging apk file.
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Thanks for your reply, i tried the apk's and it didn't work.
I wanted the most the direct call feature, because we have '' smartphones '' but actually they are pretty dumb. And this feature is a smart feature imo.
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[Q] missing "users" option/feature

Hi Guys,
Of course the system version is 4.3 and the device is the great note 10.1 2014
Where for good sake i can find the users option to create additional account for instance for child or guests
Thanks in advance for the help - i assume it will help other as well

samsung removes this feature for some reason.

So there is no workaround or other app?
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madsquabbles said:
samsung removes this feature for some reason.
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civato reenabled it in his galaxy note 8 rom. i can't say for sure but if someone who understood that stuff better than me got a hold of his source they could figure out how to implement it once a custom recovery is made.

Application whihc replace this important feature
Is there an app that provides this functionality?
It is so importnat for sure for famility tablet use....

Anyone?

I would love an answer on this post as well reference an alternate app or any thoughts on if Samsung will alow this ever. If not I may have to return and go with the new Nexus 10 2

I don't think this can be implemented by a simple app, maybe a custom rom but i'd imagine that it'd be complicated. You could also install an AOSP ROM that would make it similar to the nexus 10 with that feature but you might lose all of the samsung add ins including the s pen. I don't know if Samsung will change its mind in the future but I wouldn't expect it.

This was a huge disappointment indeed. A key feature of new Android left out without a forewarning. Is there any good reason for this?

Probably eats up too much space.. this touchwiz experience is heavy on the device.
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redstar299 said:
Probably eats up too much space.. this touchwiz experience is heavy on the device.
Sent from my SAMSUNG-SM-N900A using xda premium
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IMHO - missing this feature should be considered as any HW feature which this device come with or without....
I wonder if Samsung people are monitoriign the forum inputs?
You know.. i tried to get the formal support answer in regards and they jsut answered that the case opened... nothing for several days...
Its mine first Android and Samsung device - Disappointing... :crying:

[Q] S Pen features when rooted

Hi guys,
Sorry if this question has been asked and answered before. Search brought up no answers for me.
l have a note 10.1 2014 WIFI only. l haven't rooted it yet though I am familiar with rooting from other devices.
Now, I absolutely hate touchwizz and would love to flash a stock android rom onto my tablet, however l am worried that removing touchwizz will disable any s pen features.
Could somebody please confirm if I will be able to use s pen with a custom rom or not? I've looked through a fair few threads and cannot find an answer.
thanks in advance.

JBLEAKLEY93 said:
Hi guys,
Sorry if this question has been asked and answered before. Search brought up no answers for me.
l have a note 10.1 2014 WIFI only. l haven't rooted it yet though I am familiar with rooting from other devices.
Now, I absolutely hate touchwizz and would love to flash a stock android rom onto my tablet, however l am worried that removing touchwizz will disable any s pen features.
Could somebody please confirm if I will be able to use s pen with a custom rom or not? I've looked through a fair few threads and cannot find an answer.
thanks in advance.
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What model of note do you have and what custom rom you want to flash??

buhohitr said:
What model of note do you have and what custom rom you want to flash??
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Its the wifi only version (exynos chip?) anyhow i've rooted and installed twrp recovery now and backed up.
as for the rom, I'm looking for a complete stock android experience with S Pen features, looking through the rom section here I think I'll be going down the route of a cm11 based rom

Spen is not working with cm11. If you want spen, best bet is stick to TW rom.

buhohitr said:
Spen is not working with cm11. If you want spen, best bet is stick to TW rom.
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I'm running Hyperdrive Rom with Nova launcher and all functionality with the spen is working fine. You might not like touchwiz on the stock Rom but on this Rom it flies.

Definition - Feature: a distinctive attribute or aspect of something.
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DISCLAIMER: SPen feature(intrinsic functions)are only to the tip being precisely detected on the screen and the side button detection
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This clarified lets answer the question; because this gimmicks\features are on TouchWiz and not on the SPen, if you take Touch-wiz out of the equation you will lose those functions but not necessarily the precise pen and the side button detection(which rely on the drivers been implemented correctly on the ROM and not on touchwiz itself).
Rooting the device doesn't affect which system you are running, only what privilege you have in it; so, Still TouchWiz=Gimmicks exist.
Now, if there are things you don't like about TouchWiz there are many ROMs based on it that try to fix many problems inherent to the system and thus you would still have TouchWiz features. On the other hand, if you want to install something like CyanogenMod, AOPK or OmniRom, you will trade Touchwiz gimmicks for those implemented on the ROM you chose(Different Rom, different gimmicks).
I would tell you to investigate which are the gimmicks you want before jumping ROMs. Read the post of every rom you would like to install before doing so.
Personally I couldn't care less for multiwindow or doubletap note gestures if the system stutters randomly and its dumbed down Samsung-style. Even with the great things guys here have achieved with Touchwiz framework(You are really doing great things guys :highfive i still feel like i am in an eternal battle using and controlling it; trying not to launch something i really didn't intended to, or praying for the system to do what i want when I want it to; it is not worth it for me. Touchwiz makes me feel awe but never lets me feel at home and comfortable with the environment. I prefer to install CM and feel the tablet like a nexus device with a nice Wacom pen than a colorfull collage of Touchwiz features. Again, this is my personal opinion.
IMPORTANT NOTE: SPen functioning(READ DISCLAIMER) is almost ready for the new cm ROMs for the wifi version. At this moment there are various cm bases ROMs with the SPen functioning only on landscape mode so if you use the SPen thoroughly for notes, drawings and stuff I recommend waiting a little bit more before making the jump, if you decided to go that way.

Greetings everyone, if possible I'd like to add one more question to this scenario.
I understand from the above that we lose the features from Touchwizz like the floating menu, however what about the general S-Pen functionality, like the 1024 levels of sensitivity?
In particular, I'd like to know if installing CM11 and Sketchbook and use it as efficiently as in a stock environment.
Thanks in advance for any replies.

Dark_Az_ said:
Greetings everyone, if possible I'd like to add one more question to this scenario.
I understand from the above that we lose the features from Touchwizz like the floating menu, however what about the general S-Pen functionality, like the 1024 levels of sensitivity?
In particular, I'd like to know if installing CM11 and Sketchbook and use it as efficiently as in a stock environment.
Thanks in advance for any replies.
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It depends. If the ROM you want to install has the drivers and are correctly implemented(As in no Bugs), NO, you wont loose core functionality of the pen; Pen detection on the screen with its sensitivity, pen button detection, pen eraser and hover(and any combinations of those 4) are all driver based so they should all work on a ROM that implemented them.
As long as the not-touchwiz-based rom says that the pen works it means that those core functionality are indeed working, and if they dont, it is a bug.
The other aspect would be an outdated driver but i am sure the devs get what we already had on touchwiz and only port it or something, so i don't think we should worry about it.
Other aspect is that some apps like papyrus give you the option to use the pen's button as tool changer, item selector, and other stuff that could not be used on touchwiz because those gestures were taken by the system to open apps or action memo; so in a way, using CM gives you even better experience for 3rd party apps.
TL; DR If SPen drivers are in place you would have the same quality than on touchwiz for SPen Wacom core functionalities.

Is the Verizon stock rom the only one that has native SPen apps?

Just wondering if any of the other roms have the native SPen apps. I am guessing not because Touchwiz is needed, but I thought I'd ask.

MrNetwork said:
Just wondering if any of the other roms have the native SPen apps. I am guessing not because Touchwiz is needed, but I thought I'd ask.
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I am running one of the Kyubi ROMs and it has the Spen apps. Pretty sure several others do too, it should be listed on each ROMs main Post

IndyRoadie said:
I am running one of the Kyubi ROMs and it has the Spen apps. Pretty sure several others do too, it should be listed on each ROMs main Post
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Thanks for the heads up.