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Basic noob rooting questions

The question: Can I root a phone to try apps without affecting my updated ICS fix from sprint and without changing how my phone looks and feels?
My assumption: When I root it uses a ROM that someone "hacked" and it overwrites my updated ICS update.
The facts: I got the original ICS roll-out from sprint and very recently also the "fix" update to ICS from OTA. I have never rooted a phone and I'm thinking about it because my battery life has gone to hell, and my signal strength is a mess.
I'd also like to get mass storage options back to get compatibility with a usb head unit.

NGL_BrSH said:
The question: Can I root a phone to try apps without affecting my updated ICS fix from sprint and without changing how my phone looks and feels?
My assumption: When I root it uses a ROM that someone "hacked" and it overwrites my updated ICS update.
The facts: I got the original ICS roll-out from sprint and very recently also the "fix" update to ICS from OTA. I have never rooted a phone and I'm thinking about it because my battery life has gone to hell, and my signal strength is a mess.
I'd also like to get mass storage options back to get compatibility with a usb head unit.
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So, you got the original roll out to Ics, then you got a second update?
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MoHoGalore said:
So, you got the original roll out to Ics, then you got a second update?
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That is correct. The second update was about a week ago or so.

NGL_BrSH said:
That is correct. The second update was about a week ago or so.
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I was waiting to see of anyone else was going to respond but since I'm going to call it a night, I'll throw my 2 cents in, then I'll wait for my change..
I had to ask about the "second" update since the only thing i know is this- The original roll out was paused, then when it started up again, small fixes were noticed. One being the Swype issue. Not big changes according to some.
So to answer your question about rooting to try apps, just use sfhubs one click for ff18. Clear the cache on Swype after that. Then try your apps..
I'd suggest reading up on backing up your data, etc, so when you notice that stock battery life, look and feel and all of that isn't different, and you want to go back, you can.
Or just save all of that trouble and root and flash the stock tweaked ics rom, with a custom kernal, and enjoy a stock, rooted, long lasting daily experience..
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Ok. So when you say stock tweaked ics rom you are saying that it's going to overwrite the updated ics i got through ota? I also don't want to lose my contacts and apps that are installed and also all the"theme" work I've done to this. I just want less Los.. More battery life and usb mass storage feature back.
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NGL_BrSH said:
Ok. So when you say stock tweaked ics rom you are saying that it's going to overwrite the updated ics i got through ota? I also don't want to lose my contacts and apps that are installed and also all the"theme" work I've done to this. I just want less Los.. More battery life and usb mass storage feature back.
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The stock tweaked rom is located on the Dev section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29788992
For your concerns, you can attempt to address issue by issue.
Sync contacts w google.
Change modems to address the los issues you have.
Use titanium backup for your apps.
Use a custom kernel for your battery life.
And use sfhubs storage mode fix.
Or, sync contacts w google, use tb for your apps and find a great rom that addresses the rest of the issues.
You keep saying something about an update to ics, but the latest ff18 rom builds have all ics and more..
(and of course you can always go back stock of you choose..)
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Ok so bear with me here.
If I do the latter as you suggest (and I greatly appreciate your time and answers) would I have to personalize my phone all over again like it was new out of the box or does TB restore my apps like nothing ever happened?
I'm getting really close to pulling the trigger here but it makes me nervous because I do so very much business with my outlook account, GPS, messaging and WIFI.
If I screw it up I'll be dead in the water with no love from our IT department haha.
I come as a PC power user. overclocking, hacking etc. Is TB like when I make a exact image of my operating system and all it's contents and then if something goes wrong I can just blast it to a HDD and it's like nothing ever happened?
I have trouble leaving things be when they "work".
Thanks again.
MoHoGalore said:
The stock tweaked rom is located on the Dev section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29788992
For your concerns, you can attempt to address issue by issue.
Sync contacts w google.
Change modems to address the los issues you have.
Use titanium backup for your apps.
Use a custom kernel for your battery life.
And use sfhubs storage mode fix.
Or, sync contacts w google, use tb for your apps and find a great rom that addresses the rest of the issues.
You keep saying something about an update to ics, but the latest ff18 rom builds have all ics and more..
(and of course you can always go back stock of you choose..)
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NGL_BrSH said:
Ok so bear with me here.
If I do the latter as you suggest (and I greatly appreciate your time and answers) would I have to personalize my phone all over again like it was new out of the box or does TB restore my apps like nothing ever happened?
I'm getting really close to pulling the trigger here but it makes me nervous because I do so very much business with my outlook account, GPS, messaging and WIFI.
If I screw it up I'll be dead in the water with no love from our IT department haha.
I come as a PC power user. overclocking, hacking etc. Is TB like when I make a exact image of my operating system and all it's contents and then if something goes wrong I can just blast it to a HDD and it's like nothing ever happened?
I have trouble leaving things be when they "work".
Thanks again.
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First off, you're welcome. And if I say something off kilter about what you are wanting to do, believe me there will be people that say so. (Surprisingly, It's a quiet thread)
What you would refer to as an img in PC, Nandroid is what you would call it here. You can find out all about that with a very helpful guide [TUT] What Is Nandroid And How To Use It [Complete Guide] [VeNuM]
Be sure to use it if you're that dependent on your phone for work.
Speaking of which, if you don't have a backup plan for your phone, I'd hold off on puling that trigger until you have read all that you can.
Using Titanium Backup, as with any software, can fail. Be sure to know how to backup and restore and when and what you can restore. Don't go from ICS to GB and try without expecting issues. There are other apps as well, MybackupPro, astro file manager.. Just do your homework.
Having a nandroid is essential for me. If you rename the backup, do NOT put any spaces in the name. It's also a strong suggestion to verify md5 if you plan on moving and storing - Don't delete the original without verifying the copy with md5. Just search for a md5 checker.
If you do decide to flash, good luck. Ton's of smarter people than me here tat can help, just make a backup..

I've been reading my butt off here but I still don't have a grasp of the rooting.
When I root a phone doesn't it overwrite all my stuff? Then how would I be able to use Titanium Back up to back up all my previous stuff?
I bet I'll understand much better once I actually root it but like you said I'm trying to get a grasp of it all before I commit.

Rooting alone, no.
If you use sfhubs ff18, rooted, no data, you will not lose your current setup and data. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27635571
You'll just be rooted.
For TB I'll refer you to this - http://www.titaniumtrack.com/kb/titanium-backup-kb
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[INFO][RESEARCH] JB Flash Counter, Triangle Away

Please go to POST 56 for updated information. I will update the OP over the weekend. Thanks!​
As many of you already know, with our recent official Jelly Bean release came a new, updated flash counter. With ICS we were able to either just root via the root66 method and not trip the counter, or we could just use Chainfire's Triangle Away app to reset it. This is no longer the case. Now, with JB, unless our firmware meets a very strict set of conditions, it will trip the counter every time you reboot the device. If you simply just flash the root66 firmware, and do nothing else beyond that, you will not raise your count. But then, whats the point of rooting???
DON'T PANIC!
We can still zero it out for Warranty returns! The biggest issues arise when you want to utilize certain apps and/or services such as All Share Cast, Media Hub and other Samsung apps. For example, if you have purchased the $100 equipment, the All Share Cast Hub, it will not work! Additionally, DRM protected content may not play anymore. (Probably just applies to DRM protected media you got from Samsung, but this needs verification). For example, if you got to download the Avengers a couple of months ago, it will not play, even though it is perfectly legal to do so!
So are we able to get around this? Yes and No, for the moment. There are at least 2 separate detections going on. One is done post-boot, using the SysScope app. If you remove this from /system/app/ you will be able to install a custom recovery, and probably also a kernel and another modem without tripping the counter! I have yet to see any negative side effects from removing this app, so until I find more info proving otherwise, I suggest backing it up and deleting it. Hopefully Chainfire will decide to update Triangle Away to counter the updated detection. He may not though. Please read what he has to say about it here.
This does not solve the whole problem though. There is still another method Samsung coded in to detect if your system has been modified. I am not sure yet what is responsible fot this. But if you were to simply deodex your rom, it will begin tripping the counter at boot again! (It may not be the deodexing that is trigging it though, I believe it is also scanning for any processes that are running with root privledges that should not be there, and it may also have to do with busybox). Either way, if you are running pretty much any kind of custom rom, it will retrip the counter at bootup. This method is different in that it happens during boot, not after, and it does not look at recovery, and probably not at kernel or modem either. It appears to look specifically at the system partition for anything not stock. I am trying to narrow this down.
Because the other 2nd part seems to happen during bootup, I think that Chainfire's paid version may be able to help here. If you purchase it on the Play Store, it will have enabled the ability to Auto run at boot. Since SysScope is now removed, I dont think any detections are running post-boot anymore, meaning Auto run from Triangle Away should work. I do not have the paid version to test with right now. But I will try and test this soon.
I am fairly certain that the rest of the detection process is running either from the kernel, or from a completely separate partition. It is going to require quite a few flashes and test to narrow it down for sure. So if you guys will report your experiences with it, particularly on different kernels, I would be greatly appreciative.
As I find and/or remember more about this, I will update it here. If anyone has any other information about this, please do post it here! Any help, tips, info, etc that you can provide can be very helpful!
I hope this all made sense to you guys! I will go back and clarify some stuff a little later, but Ive got a 6 year old kid going stir crazy waiting on me to be done with this! I wanted to go ahead and get something up though to get the conversation started! I will also post some links to some information later on.
In the meantime, you can Odin back to ICS build UVALJ4, and then flash your roms from there...yes even the JB ones! I hate saying that after suggesting to Odin flash the JB update, but if you have anything not working because of this, it may be your best option temporarily.
Otherwise, delete SysScope from /system/app! And keep Triangle Away handy!
I will continue doing a lot of testing and trying to investigate this problem. But I do appreciate any help that you guys can give!
Hopefully, with a little luck we can figure this out! :highfive:
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I think that pretty much covers it...
I know that if you triangle away, and reboot to download mode, the counter's zero... if you boot into recovery and then boot into download mode the counter's still zero...
It gets triggered when you boot into the actual rom... I wonder if you odin to JB... then actually flash down to an ICS rom, does the counter get reset on boot?

scifan said:
I think that pretty much covers it...
I know that if you triangle away, and reboot to download mode, the counter's zero... if you boot into recovery and then boot into download mode the counter's still zero...
It gets triggered when you boot into the actual rom... I wonder if you odin to JB... then actually flash down to an ICS rom, does the counter get reset on boot?
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That's SysScope running after booting up. Flashing an ics rom over a fully updated JB will most likely also trip the counter due to the 2nd part of the device check which runs during boot. Worth trying though.
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Also need to find out if its the deodexing that triggers it, or something like busybox.
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Good info. And nice write up so your saying if we odin root66 ics we are ok to say flash gs3r7.zip to jb and the new custom rom detection wont be present?
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There's also a manual way I used to reset, back when my touchscreen died (and therefore could not even use TriangleAway) that we should 'throw into the mix' and test against JB...lemme see if I can dig up that thread...
Okay, here was the progenitor post, that may give clues if the old (ICS) way no longer works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28953690&postcount=67
and the resultant manual method, which I verified worked on TMO (ICS):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781471

1Shotwonder said:
Good info. And nice write up so your saying if we odin root66 ics we are ok to say flash gs3r7.zip to jb and the new custom rom detection wont be present?
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Thanks!
Yes that is correct. I cannot guarantee you wont have any other bugs. Doing it this way you are essentially running half ics half jb. If you have no need of samsung services like media hub or all share cast, id go full jb. Otherwise id go with the ics UVALJ4 firmware and a jb rom.
wideasleep1 said:
There's also a manual way I used to reset, back when my touchscreen died (and therefore could not even use TriangleAway) that we should 'throw into the mix' and test against JB...lemme see if I can dig up that thread...
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That would be great! Thanks!
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Good job Doc... :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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Doc, I'd be more than happy to help out with this. Just shoot me a PM about where you are heading and I can see what I can do. I'm not adverse to getting in deep, so that is a non-issue.
My initial thoughts are to take a pretty simple approach and, for lack of a better few words, do a side-by-side of the new JB and the recent leaks and see what is different. Obviously it is a bit harder than than but we could breakdown the /system/apps, then move on the each partition scheme and see what the differences are and why they are different. Then start crossing off things like apps, 2boot check, something buried in on of the other partitions, ....

Really Samsung? God this crap is really starting to piss me off. Love how manufacturers don't want be enjoying my device.
On a more positive note, can't Samsung deny claims for just the CPU?
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only thing that bothers me is the avengers movie not playing in any of the players on the GS3R7 rom. ( I have tried to reset the counter and still does not play the movie... any ideas? It does work on stock jb root66 though). Other than that I dont use any other samsung apps. The other issue I have come across is with Root Explorer when trying to modify the build.prop for GW I can edit the build.prop but it will not save the changes I believe this to be an issue with the sdcard now being sdcard0 but I am not 100% any one have a way around this or know the fix?

wideasleep1 said:
There's also a manual way I used to reset, back when my touchscreen died (and therefore could not even use TriangleAway) that we should 'throw into the mix' and test against JB...lemme see if I can dig up that thread...
Okay, here was the progenitor post, that may give clues if the old (ICS) way no longer works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28953690&postcount=67
and the resultant manual method, which I verified worked on TMO (ICS):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781471
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Thanks for looking those back up. Ill be checking them out later on today.
Woodrube said:
Doc, I'd be more than happy to help out with this. Just shoot me a PM about where you are heading and I can see what I can do. I'm not adverse to getting in deep, so that is a non-issue.
My initial thoughts are to take a pretty simple approach and, for lack of a better few words, do a side-by-side of the new JB and the recent leaks and see what is different. Obviously it is a bit harder than than but we could breakdown the /system/apps, then move on the each partition scheme and see what the differences are and why they are different. Then start crossing off things like apps, 2boot check, something buried in on of the other partitions, ....
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sounds good man! Kinda have a feeling ill be needing help on this one! Ill shoot you a pm later on. Gotta get going for now, but wanted to respond real quick.
1Shotwonder said:
only thing that bothers me is the avengers movie not playing in any of the players on the GS3R7 rom. ( I have tried to reset the counter and still does not play the movie... any ideas? It does work on stock jb root66 though). Other than that I dont use any other samsung apps. The other issue I have come across is with Root Explorer when trying to modify the build.prop for GW I can edit the build.prop but it will not save the changes I believe this to be an issue with the sdcard now being sdcard0 but I am not 100% any one have a way around this or know the fix?
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Its another thing I've got to figure out. If its just breaking Samsung related/downloaded stuff, or is it screwing with DRM altogether.
As to your other issue, wallets included with jb now so I assumed it wouldn't require a 'fix'. But it sounds more like a superuser problem with root explorer. Download chainfires cwm supersu from his thread and flash it. See if that helps. Not going to be related to this stuff though.
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Does reverting back to ics roll back the flash counter? I am really liking JB TW maybe time for a change lol
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Unfortunately I doesn't work that way. Would be sweet if it did, then all we'd have to do is roll back and we'd be good. Plus we could figure out the trigger and remedy it.

md1008 said:
Does reverting back to ics roll back the flash counter? I am really liking JB TW maybe time for a change lol
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If I'm not mistaken, you should be able to revert to ICS then use triangleaway and your counter will stay at 0.
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Woodrube said:
Unfortunately I doesn't work that way. Would be sweet if it did, then all we'd have to do is roll back and we'd be good. Plus we could figure out the trigger and remedy it.
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Triangle away, boot to recovery, then flash ICS on your phone...

Well my counter is stuck at 1 lol
What exactly trips the counter? I've seen multiple answers for the question but I figured ide ask here since there are so many knowledgeable people here
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So ive been reading this and from what i can gather, it seems that samsung (or T-Mobile) placed a new apk file into the system directory (or maybe a lib file?) and that if you root your device, every time you reboot your phone, it will +1 to the flash counter?
Has anyone asked any ATT, Sprint or Verizon users if their flash counter goes up with root after each reboot as well? If it doesnt, we could probably do a system file comparison between the two to isolate the file(s) which are causing the incremental flash counter at boot.

That's what I was saying earlier about comparing official and leak and seeing the differences. Sprint is the only one that has had official so not sure if that would work for us. Think we need to differentiate between Samsung and TMo and see where the "fault" lies.

Woodrube said:
That's what I was saying earlier about comparing official and leak and seeing the differences. Sprint is the only one that has had official so not sure if that would work for us. Think we need to differentiate between Samsung and TMo and see where the "fault" lies.
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That sounds like a good idea. I'll download one of the leaks and see if anything is obvious. It may also be a new line of code inside an apk or lib file as well. Making things a bit more difficult. As im comparing them i will check the size of each APK as well as if new code is added to them it should increase the size of the compiled apk. And i have my computer set up to show individual bytes of data.

Wakelock fix??

Hello,
I have been on Omega since quite a while.. there was unusual battery drain on my cell so I installed BetterBatteryStat.
Finally I found that power manager service and audio out is keeping my phone permanently awake.
How do I fix it? My phone doesnt go in deep sleep anymore :\

Pms is a sum up of partial wake locks.
Before keeping the phone aside at night, go into task manager and click clear memory. Also swipe away all apps in recent apps. This issue is generally cause of games and especially playing them in silent mode.
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nidhish91 said:
Hello,
I have been on Omega since quite a while.. there was unusual battery drain on my cell so I installed BetterBatteryStat.
Finally I found that power manager service and audio out is keeping my phone permanently awake.
How do I fix it? My phone doesnt go in deep sleep anymore :\
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Look around. It's apps related, some people are using Viber and this is why they have this crazy wakelock.
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The official Facebook app is also a battery killer, constantly on in the background.

I dont have the FB app. Also I have disabled Viber. Still have the issue. If there was any way that could help me find the main app who is the culprit then it would be nice. :z

im using alliancerom and they offer an ota function. heres the zip they offer to fix the wakelock
just flash it thorugt cwm/twrp. hope it works for you (it did for me)

post full BBS dump or didn't happen

C2000K said:
im using alliancerom and they offer an ota function. heres the zip they offer to fix the wakelock
just flash it thorugt cwm/twrp. hope it works for you (it did for me)
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Can use on omega v13?
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Device: N7100 International
ROM: Omega 13
Kernel: Perseus 33.4
MOD: Acid! & Walkman

kecek said:
Can use on omega v13?
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yes. just flash througt cwm

C2000K how does the wakelock fix work? Which application does it go after?

It replaces some framework files...
They just patched it with Google's fix.
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(Q) my lgog e975 deceases the battery too much!

Help me plz, battery consumption is too much on my lgog although i dont use it for 3g or wifi!
My lgog e975 (jb 4.1.2 stock, rooted)
What do i have to do now?

sot462004 said:
Help me plz, battery consumption is too much on my lgog although i dont use it for 3g or wifi!
My lgog e975 (jb 4.1.2 stock, rooted)
What do i have to do now?
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Installed Greenify to force stop all applications when these is not used.

use Greenify,maybe good!

Sv: (Q) my lgog e975 deceases the battery too much!
Got same problem.. 4G, sync, smart screen etc. Its all turned off, still the Phone got like 2-3 hours of usage? :-\
Ive also installed and use greenify. With 4G and sync on theres almost none batterypower..
My Phone is 6 days old and has made about 7-8 full cycles
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Try without antivirus.
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nothing's improved for the battery life!?!?!?! :<
help me more plz!!!!!!!!!!!

wow,maybe you should check what apps and services are running in the background and uninstall/freeze useless crap.
Use betterbatterystats to see what is causing the wakelocks and drain.
Make sure gps/nfc/autosync are turned off.
If you don't know how to do that, why in the world did you bought a smartphone?

kimitza said:
wow,maybe you should check what apps and services are running in the background and uninstall/freeze useless crap.
Use betterbatterystats to see what is causing the wakelocks and drain.
Make sure gps/nfc/autosync are turned off.
If you don't know how to do that, why in the world did you bought a smartphone?
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I do a lot of thing: like root, using greenify, turn off all connection, sync.... but it seems not to be improved!
My battery only has 8-9 cycles of charging! Is it OK when the cycles of charge more than 12 times!!!!!!!!!!!??????????????????

then i guess you just have to turn off the phone and use a nokia 1100 instead.
or go to warranty with it.
but don't ask this type of questions.everybody uses the phone differently.
so,if something does good to my phone,it may do bad to yours.
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kimitza said:
then i guess you just have to turn off the phone and use a nokia 1100 instead.
or go to warranty with it.
but don't ask this type of questions.everybody uses the phone differently.
so,if something does good to my phone,it may do bad to yours.
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So, what is this forum used for? I have my problem with my phone and have it resolved. If you could, you should help.
If you cannot, then let the others help me. Dont spam like that. OK!

it's made to solve phone side issues,not user side issues.
it's like asking a mechanic what he can do for your your v8 car to be fuel efficient like a prius,when you race around the city.
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my phone is now about 9 days old, and now the battery last for like ages! So my guess: wait about a week or so

NickereN2O said:
my phone is now about 9 days old, and now the battery last for like ages! So my guess: wait about a week or so
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so, how many days does your phone survive till the new charge now???:cyclops:

Sv: (Q) my lgog e975 deceases the battery too much!
About two days on medium/heavy usage on 4G..
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Btw do you use the Chrome browser?
Some guys says Chrome is monstrous battery killer, so ive changed it to LG stock one (Which is still chrome lol), but dont have a stats yet.
Also going to try with old opera

Sv: (Q) my lgog e975 deceases the battery too much!
Yea I use Chrome.. Can the stock sync With Google account like Chrome does ..?
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NickereN2O said:
Yea I use Chrome.. Can the stock sync With Google account like Chrome does ..?
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no, bro! only chrome will sync with your google!

Tim4 said:
Btw do you use the Chrome browser?
Some guys says Chrome is monstrous battery killer, so ive changed it to LG stock one (Which is still chrome lol), but dont have a stats yet.
Also going to try with old opera
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lg stock browser on 4.1.2 is not chrome, bro! it's like the one in 4.0 but it's maybe better!

Got the same probleme, my phone database wakes my phone out of deep sleep 6000 times in 5 hours.
I had deactivated fast dormancy. Then it was by 6 times in a few hours.

sot462004 said:
lg stock browser on 4.1.2 is not chrome, bro! it's like the one in 4.0 but it's maybe better!
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Yeah, its based AOSP. Like the Chrome

Tips on getting rid of lags

I have had my European G3 for a couple of days and what's getting me off is the small (and sometimes bigger)
lags here and there. Its probably mostly up to LGs skin a and apps but I rather not starting out using Nova because I think the functions are pretty good.
Right now the darn keyboard is lagging precisely that the ripped variant did on my M8, darn lag....
Anyone got any tips. So far I've tried:
1. Reset. Works for a while ...
2. Root n freeze n grenify. Well, it's lagging
So? Anyone with the same experience and maybe a fix?
Edit. I think I've got some of of the lag away.
So far I've tried the following:
1. Root
2. Greenify
3. Changed read ahead etc with trickster
4. Changed minfree and applied som launcher tweaks
5. Developer settings stuff
6. Other than that adfree, probably at a cost
The launcher and apps is now feeling a bit snappier and the battery should not be worse at least.

In developer's options either scale animations to 0.5 or off completely, see if it works
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The phone reduces it's cpu clock speed when battery is low or cpu gets hot.
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Lennyuk said:
The phone reduces it's cpu clock speed when battery is low or cpu gets hot.
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Trouble is it seems to get hot very easily

Weird. I haven't gotten any lags or stutters with mine.
Only bug happened was when I wake the phone it instantly locks it again. So I just restarted it and everything is fine.

Maybe try swiftkey? It's free and I love it with my Note 2 - especially the ability to control how long a long press is for numbers etc. Let me know how it is if you do, since I plan on using it with the G3.
Also, maybe something like Greenify will help hibernate more background processes and make it heat up less and free up the CPU?

I find lag on first day of use. Didnt install any app yet.
I think it was way over bloated with carrier app. Try disable a few with titanium backup. It seemed to help alot in my case.
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Hi. Im using swiftkey now, thé built in is sometimes extremely laggy. Developers option done. Still laggy, I give it another week other wise I return it and buy a G2 instead.
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Uninstall the bloat. I have zero lag after uninstalling it. When I first got the phone it did lag because of the unnecessary bloat. I use the google keyboard (android l) and it works fine.
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Pilz said:
Uninstall the bloat. I have zero lag after uninstalling it. When I first got the phone it did lag because of the unnecessary bloat. I use the google keyboard (android l) and it works fine.
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How do I get rid of the bloat?
Mcafee, LG apps etc.

ds306 said:
How do I get rid of the bloat?
Mcafee, LG apps etc.
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Root. Takes 30 seconds and if you want back to stock just remove whatever you did to system and reset the devise to get rid of the evidence

Edit. I think you just can uninstall most LG stuff.

dondavis007 said:
Root. Takes 30 seconds and if you want back to stock just remove whatever you did to system and reset the devise to get rid of the evidence
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Was thinking of rooting, just not sure If I can, haven't heard of a tool that roots the UK LG G3 D850.
Is there a tool anyone can recommend?

ds306 said:
Was thinking of rooting, just not sure If I can, haven't heard of a tool that roots the UK LG G3 D850.
Is there a tool anyone can recommend?
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UK D850? I don't think thats a thing. The UK versions should be the international (EU) versions the LGD855, which towelroot works to root the device.

You can't do anything to get rid of it.
Best case scenario is future updates by LG will improve performance, but no one can know for sure.
600€ phone and it lags. Money means nothing anymore

Sensamic said:
You can't do anything to get rid of it.
Best case scenario is future updates by LG will improve performance, but no one can know for sure.
600€ phone and it lags. Money means nothing anymore
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I guess you haven't used an S5. That thing is ridiculous.

After using my LG G3 a couple of days I'll say it lags about the same as the S5 did before the first two updates. You have to give it to Sammy, they did try to fix it pretty quick. The problem is more that their ui lags in the first place.

Sensamic said:
You can't do anything to get rid of it.
Best case scenario is future updates by LG will improve performance, but no one can know for sure.
600€ phone and it lags. Money means nothing anymore
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Nova feels a great deal smoither, the problem is LGs ui, but switching to a better launcher takes away a lot of LG stuff like the fitnessapp and I using it. Darn LG stop baking in functions in out ui alone [emoji35]

Tarzan- said:
In developer's options either scale animations to 0.5 or off completely, see if it works
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Doesn't help. Thanks