Please go to POST 56 for updated information. I will update the OP over the weekend. Thanks!
As many of you already know, with our recent official Jelly Bean release came a new, updated flash counter. With ICS we were able to either just root via the root66 method and not trip the counter, or we could just use Chainfire's Triangle Away app to reset it. This is no longer the case. Now, with JB, unless our firmware meets a very strict set of conditions, it will trip the counter every time you reboot the device. If you simply just flash the root66 firmware, and do nothing else beyond that, you will not raise your count. But then, whats the point of rooting???
DON'T PANIC!
We can still zero it out for Warranty returns! The biggest issues arise when you want to utilize certain apps and/or services such as All Share Cast, Media Hub and other Samsung apps. For example, if you have purchased the $100 equipment, the All Share Cast Hub, it will not work! Additionally, DRM protected content may not play anymore. (Probably just applies to DRM protected media you got from Samsung, but this needs verification). For example, if you got to download the Avengers a couple of months ago, it will not play, even though it is perfectly legal to do so!
So are we able to get around this? Yes and No, for the moment. There are at least 2 separate detections going on. One is done post-boot, using the SysScope app. If you remove this from /system/app/ you will be able to install a custom recovery, and probably also a kernel and another modem without tripping the counter! I have yet to see any negative side effects from removing this app, so until I find more info proving otherwise, I suggest backing it up and deleting it. Hopefully Chainfire will decide to update Triangle Away to counter the updated detection. He may not though. Please read what he has to say about it here.
This does not solve the whole problem though. There is still another method Samsung coded in to detect if your system has been modified. I am not sure yet what is responsible fot this. But if you were to simply deodex your rom, it will begin tripping the counter at boot again! (It may not be the deodexing that is trigging it though, I believe it is also scanning for any processes that are running with root privledges that should not be there, and it may also have to do with busybox). Either way, if you are running pretty much any kind of custom rom, it will retrip the counter at bootup. This method is different in that it happens during boot, not after, and it does not look at recovery, and probably not at kernel or modem either. It appears to look specifically at the system partition for anything not stock. I am trying to narrow this down.
Because the other 2nd part seems to happen during bootup, I think that Chainfire's paid version may be able to help here. If you purchase it on the Play Store, it will have enabled the ability to Auto run at boot. Since SysScope is now removed, I dont think any detections are running post-boot anymore, meaning Auto run from Triangle Away should work. I do not have the paid version to test with right now. But I will try and test this soon.
I am fairly certain that the rest of the detection process is running either from the kernel, or from a completely separate partition. It is going to require quite a few flashes and test to narrow it down for sure. So if you guys will report your experiences with it, particularly on different kernels, I would be greatly appreciative.
As I find and/or remember more about this, I will update it here. If anyone has any other information about this, please do post it here! Any help, tips, info, etc that you can provide can be very helpful!
I hope this all made sense to you guys! I will go back and clarify some stuff a little later, but Ive got a 6 year old kid going stir crazy waiting on me to be done with this! I wanted to go ahead and get something up though to get the conversation started! I will also post some links to some information later on.
In the meantime, you can Odin back to ICS build UVALJ4, and then flash your roms from there...yes even the JB ones! I hate saying that after suggesting to Odin flash the JB update, but if you have anything not working because of this, it may be your best option temporarily.
Otherwise, delete SysScope from /system/app! And keep Triangle Away handy!
I will continue doing a lot of testing and trying to investigate this problem. But I do appreciate any help that you guys can give!
Hopefully, with a little luck we can figure this out! :highfive:
I think that pretty much covers it...
I know that if you triangle away, and reboot to download mode, the counter's zero... if you boot into recovery and then boot into download mode the counter's still zero...
It gets triggered when you boot into the actual rom... I wonder if you odin to JB... then actually flash down to an ICS rom, does the counter get reset on boot?
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I think that pretty much covers it...
I know that if you triangle away, and reboot to download mode, the counter's zero... if you boot into recovery and then boot into download mode the counter's still zero...
It gets triggered when you boot into the actual rom... I wonder if you odin to JB... then actually flash down to an ICS rom, does the counter get reset on boot?
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That's SysScope running after booting up. Flashing an ics rom over a fully updated JB will most likely also trip the counter due to the 2nd part of the device check which runs during boot. Worth trying though.
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Also need to find out if its the deodexing that triggers it, or something like busybox.
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Good info. And nice write up so your saying if we odin root66 ics we are ok to say flash gs3r7.zip to jb and the new custom rom detection wont be present?
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There's also a manual way I used to reset, back when my touchscreen died (and therefore could not even use TriangleAway) that we should 'throw into the mix' and test against JB...lemme see if I can dig up that thread...
Okay, here was the progenitor post, that may give clues if the old (ICS) way no longer works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28953690&postcount=67
and the resultant manual method, which I verified worked on TMO (ICS):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781471
1Shotwonder said:
Good info. And nice write up so your saying if we odin root66 ics we are ok to say flash gs3r7.zip to jb and the new custom rom detection wont be present?
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Yes that is correct. I cannot guarantee you wont have any other bugs. Doing it this way you are essentially running half ics half jb. If you have no need of samsung services like media hub or all share cast, id go full jb. Otherwise id go with the ics UVALJ4 firmware and a jb rom.
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There's also a manual way I used to reset, back when my touchscreen died (and therefore could not even use TriangleAway) that we should 'throw into the mix' and test against JB...lemme see if I can dig up that thread...
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That would be great! Thanks!
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Good job Doc... :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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Doc, I'd be more than happy to help out with this. Just shoot me a PM about where you are heading and I can see what I can do. I'm not adverse to getting in deep, so that is a non-issue.
My initial thoughts are to take a pretty simple approach and, for lack of a better few words, do a side-by-side of the new JB and the recent leaks and see what is different. Obviously it is a bit harder than than but we could breakdown the /system/apps, then move on the each partition scheme and see what the differences are and why they are different. Then start crossing off things like apps, 2boot check, something buried in on of the other partitions, ....
Really Samsung? God this crap is really starting to piss me off. Love how manufacturers don't want be enjoying my device.
On a more positive note, can't Samsung deny claims for just the CPU?
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only thing that bothers me is the avengers movie not playing in any of the players on the GS3R7 rom. ( I have tried to reset the counter and still does not play the movie... any ideas? It does work on stock jb root66 though). Other than that I dont use any other samsung apps. The other issue I have come across is with Root Explorer when trying to modify the build.prop for GW I can edit the build.prop but it will not save the changes I believe this to be an issue with the sdcard now being sdcard0 but I am not 100% any one have a way around this or know the fix?
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There's also a manual way I used to reset, back when my touchscreen died (and therefore could not even use TriangleAway) that we should 'throw into the mix' and test against JB...lemme see if I can dig up that thread...
Okay, here was the progenitor post, that may give clues if the old (ICS) way no longer works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28953690&postcount=67
and the resultant manual method, which I verified worked on TMO (ICS):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781471
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Thanks for looking those back up. Ill be checking them out later on today.
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Doc, I'd be more than happy to help out with this. Just shoot me a PM about where you are heading and I can see what I can do. I'm not adverse to getting in deep, so that is a non-issue.
My initial thoughts are to take a pretty simple approach and, for lack of a better few words, do a side-by-side of the new JB and the recent leaks and see what is different. Obviously it is a bit harder than than but we could breakdown the /system/apps, then move on the each partition scheme and see what the differences are and why they are different. Then start crossing off things like apps, 2boot check, something buried in on of the other partitions, ....
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sounds good man! Kinda have a feeling ill be needing help on this one! Ill shoot you a pm later on. Gotta get going for now, but wanted to respond real quick.
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only thing that bothers me is the avengers movie not playing in any of the players on the GS3R7 rom. ( I have tried to reset the counter and still does not play the movie... any ideas? It does work on stock jb root66 though). Other than that I dont use any other samsung apps. The other issue I have come across is with Root Explorer when trying to modify the build.prop for GW I can edit the build.prop but it will not save the changes I believe this to be an issue with the sdcard now being sdcard0 but I am not 100% any one have a way around this or know the fix?
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Its another thing I've got to figure out. If its just breaking Samsung related/downloaded stuff, or is it screwing with DRM altogether.
As to your other issue, wallets included with jb now so I assumed it wouldn't require a 'fix'. But it sounds more like a superuser problem with root explorer. Download chainfires cwm supersu from his thread and flash it. See if that helps. Not going to be related to this stuff though.
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Does reverting back to ics roll back the flash counter? I am really liking JB TW maybe time for a change lol
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Unfortunately I doesn't work that way. Would be sweet if it did, then all we'd have to do is roll back and we'd be good. Plus we could figure out the trigger and remedy it.
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Does reverting back to ics roll back the flash counter? I am really liking JB TW maybe time for a change lol
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If I'm not mistaken, you should be able to revert to ICS then use triangleaway and your counter will stay at 0.
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Unfortunately I doesn't work that way. Would be sweet if it did, then all we'd have to do is roll back and we'd be good. Plus we could figure out the trigger and remedy it.
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Triangle away, boot to recovery, then flash ICS on your phone...
Well my counter is stuck at 1 lol
What exactly trips the counter? I've seen multiple answers for the question but I figured ide ask here since there are so many knowledgeable people here
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So ive been reading this and from what i can gather, it seems that samsung (or T-Mobile) placed a new apk file into the system directory (or maybe a lib file?) and that if you root your device, every time you reboot your phone, it will +1 to the flash counter?
Has anyone asked any ATT, Sprint or Verizon users if their flash counter goes up with root after each reboot as well? If it doesnt, we could probably do a system file comparison between the two to isolate the file(s) which are causing the incremental flash counter at boot.
That's what I was saying earlier about comparing official and leak and seeing the differences. Sprint is the only one that has had official so not sure if that would work for us. Think we need to differentiate between Samsung and TMo and see where the "fault" lies.
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That's what I was saying earlier about comparing official and leak and seeing the differences. Sprint is the only one that has had official so not sure if that would work for us. Think we need to differentiate between Samsung and TMo and see where the "fault" lies.
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That sounds like a good idea. I'll download one of the leaks and see if anything is obvious. It may also be a new line of code inside an apk or lib file as well. Making things a bit more difficult. As im comparing them i will check the size of each APK as well as if new code is added to them it should increase the size of the compiled apk. And i have my computer set up to show individual bytes of data.
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I haven't seen anything online about this problem... but I installed Kernel Manager today from the Market and tried downloading the Tiamat kernel for CM7. It downloaded just fine, and then it upacked it and started to flash it. The flashing process took forever, so after about 5 minutes I started looking at my phone and noticed a low memory notification. The one that says you are running out of phone storage. I then pulled up Disk Usage to see where it was all going and Kernel Manager was growing and taking up all my phone's memory. I think the app itself was 74 kb?? Something like that? And then while it was "flashing" the data for Kernel Manager was up to 115MB. Then everything on my phone started FCing and I had to reboot.
Anybody seen this problem with the newest update? I'm running 1.1.2.
Delete that bs and install kernels the big boy way; grab the zip then flash in recovery and reboot unless you like apps holding your hand and eating up free space
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Delete that bs and install kernels the big boy way; grab the zip then flash in recovery and reboot unless you like apps holding your hand and eating up free space
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haha! I tried that app just to see what it was all about but when it flashed the kernel IDK if it even did the proper wipes ,there was no way to know and I was getting fc so yeah I say just do it the old fashion way in recovery...
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I haven't seen anything online about this problem... but I installed Kernel Manager today from the Market and tried downloading the Tiamat kernel for CM7. It downloaded just fine, and then it upacked it and started to flash it. The flashing process took forever, so after about 5 minutes I started looking at my phone and noticed a low memory notification. The one that says you are running out of phone storage. I then pulled up Disk Usage to see where it was all going and Kernel Manager was growing and taking up all my phone's memory. I think the app itself was 74 kb?? Something like that? And then while it was "flashing" the data for Kernel Manager was up to 115MB. Then everything on my phone started FCing and I had to reboot.
Anybody seen this problem with the newest update? I'm running 1.1.2.
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I had the exact same thing happen to me a month ago or so. Not with the kernel manager, but it was from the teamwin hdmi app trying to install the modified kernel, and it hung up in the process. Then I had a notification of low memory. Then I rebooted and it hung at the splash, lol. Had to nandroud restore. I never let an app flash anything after that. And that was the only time I tried.
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Delete that bs and install kernels the big boy way; grab the zip then flash in recovery and reboot unless you like apps holding your hand and eating up free space
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Now that seems a little extreme. Taking up space? The app is 350 KB. I'm sure you would never miss it.
Holding my hand? Oh you mean like Rom Manager? Do you still browse online and download one at a time?
I don't have a problem flashing the kernel myself. I like the interface to download and browse kernels. But there is obviously something up with the flashing process. I wish you could choose to just download the kernel and flash it myself.
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Now that seems a little extreme. Taking up space? The app is 350 KB. I'm sure you would never miss it.
Holding my hand? Oh you mean like Rom Manager? Do you still browse online and download one at a time?
I don't have a problem flashing the kernel myself. I like the interface to download and browse kernels. But there is obviously something up with the flashing process. I wish you could choose to just download the kernel and flash it myself.
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Yes rom manager also holds peoples hands. I just download via my xda app its easy as pie. Plus flashing kernels in recovery is proven to be better in the sense that KM can fail the flash process sometimes and cause issues. I have my personal reasons why I will NEVER use rom manager on my phone but that's not important . As I've seen around km is definitely having issues with its flashing process with some kernels and it seems that shinzul has been addressing them very fast. If you could choose and download the kernel "yourself" wouldnt that be the same thing as getting it and going to recovery lol? Thus taking us back to square one of km manager being useless?
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No, square one was the question being asked by the OP. I don't use ROM Manager either, not for any specific reason, but I suppose if I was still flashing ROMs like a mad man I would consider it. What's so bad about KM housing multiple kernels in one location so you can get a quick and easy glance at your options instead of hunting them down? Or for that matter, ROM Manager.
It's also not 'holding your hand' when you've been down the road multiple times. I tend to peek my way through kernel / ROM threads just for the sake of finding out any possible issues ... but some people just want to get in, flash, get out and be done with it. I, honestly, don't see the problem with it.
As for the OP, not sure what to say as I've had no problems flashing kernels from KM.
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No, square one was the question being asked by the OP. I don't use ROM Manager either, not for any specific reason, but I suppose if I was still flashing ROMs like a mad man I would consider it. What's so bad about KM housing multiple kernels in one location so you can get a quick and easy glance at your options instead of hunting them down? Or for that matter, ROM Manager.
It's also not 'holding your hand' when you've been down the road multiple times. I tend to peek my way through kernel / ROM threads just for the sake of finding out any possible issues ... but some people just want to get in, flash, get out and be done with it. I, honestly, don't see the problem with it.
As for the OP, not sure what to say as I've had no problems flashing kernels from KM.
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Exactly. The only reason I like a ROM/Kernel manager is to have them all in the same place and easy to download. It makes it easier to look at the list of features each one offers, and see reviews/complaints. I dont need anyone to flash anything for me. I can do that on my own. I just want an easy way to download them. The only problem is you can't ONLY download with KM, you have to download and flash.
If you could choose and download the kernel "yourself" wouldnt that be the same thing as getting it and going to recovery lol? Thus taking us back to square one of km manager being useless?
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Not useless at all. I understand if you would rather spend time flipping through forum pages trying to find the download link. That's your choice. Having it in an organized list with specs is my choice. I definitely would not call it useless -- it'll actually save you time.
The question: Can I root a phone to try apps without affecting my updated ICS fix from sprint and without changing how my phone looks and feels?
My assumption: When I root it uses a ROM that someone "hacked" and it overwrites my updated ICS update.
The facts: I got the original ICS roll-out from sprint and very recently also the "fix" update to ICS from OTA. I have never rooted a phone and I'm thinking about it because my battery life has gone to hell, and my signal strength is a mess.
I'd also like to get mass storage options back to get compatibility with a usb head unit.
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The question: Can I root a phone to try apps without affecting my updated ICS fix from sprint and without changing how my phone looks and feels?
My assumption: When I root it uses a ROM that someone "hacked" and it overwrites my updated ICS update.
The facts: I got the original ICS roll-out from sprint and very recently also the "fix" update to ICS from OTA. I have never rooted a phone and I'm thinking about it because my battery life has gone to hell, and my signal strength is a mess.
I'd also like to get mass storage options back to get compatibility with a usb head unit.
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So, you got the original roll out to Ics, then you got a second update?
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So, you got the original roll out to Ics, then you got a second update?
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That is correct. The second update was about a week ago or so.
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That is correct. The second update was about a week ago or so.
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I was waiting to see of anyone else was going to respond but since I'm going to call it a night, I'll throw my 2 cents in, then I'll wait for my change..
I had to ask about the "second" update since the only thing i know is this- The original roll out was paused, then when it started up again, small fixes were noticed. One being the Swype issue. Not big changes according to some.
So to answer your question about rooting to try apps, just use sfhubs one click for ff18. Clear the cache on Swype after that. Then try your apps..
I'd suggest reading up on backing up your data, etc, so when you notice that stock battery life, look and feel and all of that isn't different, and you want to go back, you can.
Or just save all of that trouble and root and flash the stock tweaked ics rom, with a custom kernal, and enjoy a stock, rooted, long lasting daily experience..
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Ok. So when you say stock tweaked ics rom you are saying that it's going to overwrite the updated ics i got through ota? I also don't want to lose my contacts and apps that are installed and also all the"theme" work I've done to this. I just want less Los.. More battery life and usb mass storage feature back.
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Ok. So when you say stock tweaked ics rom you are saying that it's going to overwrite the updated ics i got through ota? I also don't want to lose my contacts and apps that are installed and also all the"theme" work I've done to this. I just want less Los.. More battery life and usb mass storage feature back.
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The stock tweaked rom is located on the Dev section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29788992
For your concerns, you can attempt to address issue by issue.
Sync contacts w google.
Change modems to address the los issues you have.
Use titanium backup for your apps.
Use a custom kernel for your battery life.
And use sfhubs storage mode fix.
Or, sync contacts w google, use tb for your apps and find a great rom that addresses the rest of the issues.
You keep saying something about an update to ics, but the latest ff18 rom builds have all ics and more..
(and of course you can always go back stock of you choose..)
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Ok so bear with me here.
If I do the latter as you suggest (and I greatly appreciate your time and answers) would I have to personalize my phone all over again like it was new out of the box or does TB restore my apps like nothing ever happened?
I'm getting really close to pulling the trigger here but it makes me nervous because I do so very much business with my outlook account, GPS, messaging and WIFI.
If I screw it up I'll be dead in the water with no love from our IT department haha.
I come as a PC power user. overclocking, hacking etc. Is TB like when I make a exact image of my operating system and all it's contents and then if something goes wrong I can just blast it to a HDD and it's like nothing ever happened?
I have trouble leaving things be when they "work".
Thanks again.
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The stock tweaked rom is located on the Dev section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29788992
For your concerns, you can attempt to address issue by issue.
Sync contacts w google.
Change modems to address the los issues you have.
Use titanium backup for your apps.
Use a custom kernel for your battery life.
And use sfhubs storage mode fix.
Or, sync contacts w google, use tb for your apps and find a great rom that addresses the rest of the issues.
You keep saying something about an update to ics, but the latest ff18 rom builds have all ics and more..
(and of course you can always go back stock of you choose..)
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Ok so bear with me here.
If I do the latter as you suggest (and I greatly appreciate your time and answers) would I have to personalize my phone all over again like it was new out of the box or does TB restore my apps like nothing ever happened?
I'm getting really close to pulling the trigger here but it makes me nervous because I do so very much business with my outlook account, GPS, messaging and WIFI.
If I screw it up I'll be dead in the water with no love from our IT department haha.
I come as a PC power user. overclocking, hacking etc. Is TB like when I make a exact image of my operating system and all it's contents and then if something goes wrong I can just blast it to a HDD and it's like nothing ever happened?
I have trouble leaving things be when they "work".
Thanks again.
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First off, you're welcome. And if I say something off kilter about what you are wanting to do, believe me there will be people that say so. (Surprisingly, It's a quiet thread)
What you would refer to as an img in PC, Nandroid is what you would call it here. You can find out all about that with a very helpful guide [TUT] What Is Nandroid And How To Use It [Complete Guide] [VeNuM]
Be sure to use it if you're that dependent on your phone for work.
Speaking of which, if you don't have a backup plan for your phone, I'd hold off on puling that trigger until you have read all that you can.
Using Titanium Backup, as with any software, can fail. Be sure to know how to backup and restore and when and what you can restore. Don't go from ICS to GB and try without expecting issues. There are other apps as well, MybackupPro, astro file manager.. Just do your homework.
Having a nandroid is essential for me. If you rename the backup, do NOT put any spaces in the name. It's also a strong suggestion to verify md5 if you plan on moving and storing - Don't delete the original without verifying the copy with md5. Just search for a md5 checker.
If you do decide to flash, good luck. Ton's of smarter people than me here tat can help, just make a backup..
I've been reading my butt off here but I still don't have a grasp of the rooting.
When I root a phone doesn't it overwrite all my stuff? Then how would I be able to use Titanium Back up to back up all my previous stuff?
I bet I'll understand much better once I actually root it but like you said I'm trying to get a grasp of it all before I commit.
Rooting alone, no.
If you use sfhubs ff18, rooted, no data, you will not lose your current setup and data. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27635571
You'll just be rooted.
For TB I'll refer you to this - http://www.titaniumtrack.com/kb/titanium-backup-kb
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my Google Wallet worked for weeks after the hack but today I try to open the application and it force closed. I tried doing all those steps again from the hack thread but I still can't get it to work. Just want to know if anyone else is having the same problems I am?
Same here. Was working earlier today. Nothing new installed or done to the device either.
Still working for me maybe it was a temporary server malfunction
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Anybody have any ideas on what may have changed/happened?
ETA:
Stock deodex LK8 w/ latest Perseus.
I know it was working in the AM (1/5), but then I saw the OP's post and decided to check again, and... voila... in el crappero with FC's.
So far: uninstalled, wiped, manual add process which worked for me first time. Still FC's.
I say check your build prop and make sure it didn't get changed by flashing a mod etc
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still force closing for me... what could they have changed
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still force closing for me... what could they have changed
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If the build prop hasn't changed I'd say try fix permissions and see if that solves it. Also could try wiping the app cache. All else fails redo the hack for it
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I have redone the hack and it still does not work. Somehow this is working on cm10 based roms but as soon as you come back to a touchwiz rom it force closes. It used to work perfectly on Macs rom, project rom and slim rom but now it does not work on any of them.
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I have redone the hack and it still does not work. Somehow this is working on cm10 based roms but as soon as you come back to a touchwiz rom it force closes. It used to work perfectly on Macs rom, project rom and slim rom but now it does not work on any of them.
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I'd try removing the phone from your wallet account online back up your storages reformat then try it again. Maybe there's a file somewhere that's causing the conflict
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Looks like there is some kind of upgrade issue we did/ran into.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2054818, post #3, with the link to below...
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=35627754&postcount=191
This seems plausible to me...
4. If you running an N7100/7105 rom and have already flashed the nfc fix file or used the nfc files from it, then it is too late. If you recall using those files causes android to upgrade some 270+ files on first reboot. Once that occurs I believe that 4.1.1 apks and lib files makes fundamental changes to a bunch of other apps (like camera, gallery, and etc) which is causing the nfc force closes. You must start fresh again.
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...if anybody can confirm this to be true...?
Bump.
Just did a factory reset. Total wipe and total re-install.
Total bull$#[email protected]
How can an app "all of a sudden" stop working like this?
Thanks to the couple/few people helping.
I think we flashed a room that meessed with nfc settings and once we messed with nfc settings there is no turning back
stu5797 said:
I think we flashed a room that meessed with nfc settings and once we messed with nfc settings there is no turning back
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or maybe flashed the zip file with the "bad" libs, and thaty's what cannot be updated (total WAG on that).
(ETA: Post # 643 in link below)
http://www.modaco.com/topic/354635-...let-apk-15-r87-v15/page__st__640#entry2060308
the note2 is missing the correct libs for wallet to work.
you need a new (leaked) rom with them enabled
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Anybody know of a way to reset those files back to stock/original? or should they be reset if odin'd/flashed over?
I have flashed and odin'd so many times today, I don't even remember what my phone looked like before! Maybe I'll just take mine back and exchange it since I'm under the protection plan.
I still say there's got to be answer/fix for this...
lennykravitz2004 said:
or maybe flashed the zip file with the "bad" libs, and thaty's what cannot be updated (total WAG on that).
(ETA: Post # 643 in link below)
http://www.modaco.com/topic/354635-...let-apk-15-r87-v15/page__st__640#entry2060308
Anybody know of a way to reset those files back to stock/original? or should they be reset if odin'd/flashed over?
I have flashed and odin'd so many times today, I don't even remember what my phone looked like before! Maybe I'll just take mine back and exchange it since I'm under the protection plan.
I still say there's got to be answer/fix for this...
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I am having the same problem I think it would be better if I just exchange my phone but my phone is outside the 14 day period but I do have insurance. I just don't know I can get an exchange with a lot of problems. I think my phone was flagged.
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I just realized that when we edit the build. prop to get the wallet to work, we lose s-note functionality. Wouldn't it be easier to edit the file to mimic that of the galaxy s3? The GS3 wallet does work on the Sprint network. I haven't been able to try it because I don't know what to replace the lines with to make it identical to the s3
Flowed from my Galaxy Note 2.
Are yall using Vipers mod?
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Hey all,
I have had some minor experience in unlocking and rooting my older android devices, but I was wondering if someone could shed some light on the current state of affairs. I just received a brand new nexus 7 and am trying to decide whether or not to unlock/root it.
I remember back with my Xoom as soon as I unlocked the boot-loader, Hulu stopped working. Is this still true? Are there any other side effects like that?
Thanks for all the help everyone
Nexus is basically made for rooting so no worries.
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Some apps don't run if you're rooted. However, that's usually not for any technical reason; it's just because some app makers write a check for root into their apps and refuse to run if they find root. I don't know if Hulu is like that, but you might want to check if you have any apps that are like that. Alternatively, you can always unroot or use a hide root app to get around the app check.
bananagranola said:
Some apps don't run if you're rooted. However, that's usually not for any technical reason; it's just because some app makers write a check for root into their apps and refuse to run if they find root. I don't know if Hulu is like that, but you might want to check if you have any apps that are like that. Alternatively, you can always unroot or use a hide root app to get around the app check.
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Which Hide root app do you suggest ?
I was going to recommend OTA Rootkeeper, but apparently 4.3's security changes prevent it from working. As far as I can tell, it looks like you can't hide root on 4.3.
Can anyone confirm whether or not Hulu works with Root?
monkeyman08854 said:
Can anyone confirm whether or not Hulu works with Root?
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I use it a few times a week to watch stuff. Works fine on my rooted N7 with CleanROM and ElementalX kernel.
I don't see how I get all kind of errors when I try rooting this is it cuz I'm using winxp?
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the one and only downside of rooting is you start suffering from ORD (Obsessive ROM-updating Disorder). I've been suffering it for past few months, and it seriously gets to my head sometimes.
Symptoms:
1) You feel like updating your ROM every day a nightly comes out, even if it is without any change. Just because it has a different incremental number.
2) You can't concentrate on studies, tv, movies, GFs, or even on your potty.
3) You dream about a new nightly every night after flashing current nightly.
4) You have titanium backup on your device.
Cure:
1) no cure.
I can't think of a single app that doesn't work with while rooted. It used to be Google Movies didn't work, but that's no longer the case.
Rooting isn't a big deal. The worst part is that it resets your devices to stock, so backup first.
MikeMurphy said:
I can't think of a single app that doesn't work with while rooted. It used to be Google Movies didn't work, but that's no longer the case.
Rooting isn't a big deal. The worst part is that it resets your devices to stock, so backup first.
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Sky Go! doesn't and so far there appears no work around. Unless someone has heard something!
I had some gps lock on issues after rooting, but now that its rooted I can edit the gps.conf and fix issues.
Found a good repository for gps.conf files will help in specific areas https://m.app.box.com/view_shared/w57s1v1n3hie7l5lk28i/d_1033932257
Hi, I'm new.
Just got the Note 2 (i317) and have been doing my research in regards to rooting and installing a mod.
If I understand this correctly, I need to
1) Root device (going to use toolkit provided by XDA)
2) install MOD or is it ROM?
I want to get 4.3 on my device and I think Hellybean is it?
As far as I know, I don't need to flash it.
I'm very very ignorant on all of this. But believe me, I've been researching now for a while and still not completely confident on all the terms.
I've been able to learn about PC operating systems and have done much tinkering with the various linux distros. I also jailbroke my iPhone but then lost that when 6.3 came out.
The jailbreak for iPhone was rather simple. Just plug and go basically.
This all seems a bit more complicated but I am not going to settle for the Note 2 the way it came with all of the AT&T crapfest.
In short, I won't my phone to never lag, to scroll smoothly from screen to screen and use as little battery as possible.
Any help you all could give me would be eternally appreciated.
I have mad respect for your abilities and wished I didn't have ADHD or I would have been a programmer. All things tech related fascinate me.
thanks in advance,
Perry
YouTube it things are much simpler with video instructions
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Hope you enjoy the Note 2 it is a great device. Yes you will need to root your device. Then install Roms or Mods or both. Once rooted the possibilities are almost endless. There are plenty of people here that are willing to help out. All I can really suggest is make sure you read read read before asking questions. Most of the answers to any questions you may have are here already. Welcome to the community!
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Ok is easy ....:thumbup:
1.-Download framaroot
2.-Download recovery for market
3.-search rom Rom anyway. ...
4.-back-up
5.-Steaps for install rom...
Wipe cache ,format sistem. Etc....bla bla...
6.-reboot
7.-congratulations. ...:beer:
Lots of conflicting instructions here. If you want a custom rom you
first need a pc running Odin software.
Download TWRP for odin. This is called a custom recovery.
Flash TWRP.
Go get the rom you want and download it to your phone.
Reboot to TWRP recovery.
Wipe data and system. Flash rom. The rom will be rooted by the creator of it.
Sign in and set up your phone. Browse for more roms.
You are now an addict.
rangercaptain said:
Lots of conflicting instructions here. If you want a custom rom you
first need a pc running Odin software.
Download TWRP for odin. This is called a custom recovery.
Flash TWRP.
Go get the rom you want and download it to your phone.
Reboot to TWRP recovery.
Wipe data and system. Flash rom. The rom will be rooted by the creator of it.
Sign in and set up your phone. Browse for more roms.
You are now an addict.
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You have to be rooted first... I used chsinfires method.
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Welcome to the GN2 community buddy... :thumbup::thumbup:
First off start HERE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43514894
Then for rooting go HERE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33854391
Sometimes people try to help but don't give the right info. Especially to someone that's very new to the flashing world!! Lol
But the FIRST thing you need to do is make a back up after you get your recovery installed!!! That's your first step. So if down the road you run into problems you'll have yourself, a new untouched back up waiting for you.
And the best thing your doing is your reading and learning the basics of Android...
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Thanks for all the help. I just rooted and now I have another question (can't seem to find the answer to this on youtube). Do I need to download the ROM (hellybean) to internal storage or to a micro sd that i've yet to put into my phone? Will the internal storage be completely erased?
mataflakitas said:
Ok is easy ....:thumbup:
1.-Download framaroot
2.-Download recovery for market
3.-search rom Rom anyway. ...
4.-back-up
5.-Steaps for install rom...
Wipe cache ,format sistem. Etc....bla bla...
6.-reboot
7.-congratulations. ...:beer:
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Framaroot isn't working with the latest att update. Odin is his best bet.
BR7fan said:
Framaroot isn't working with the latest att update. Odin is his best bet.
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I don't use Odin except returning to stock. And that's ONLY when necessary. I don't use it if I don't have to. And u don't have to to root or install recovery. Frankly it scares me.
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softballjunkee13 said:
I don't use Odin except returning to stock. And that's ONLY when necessary. I don't use it if I don't have to. And u don't have to to root or install recovery. Frankly it scares me.
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+1:thumbup::thumbup:
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Perry2547 said:
Hi, I'm new.
Just got the Note 2 (i317) and have been doing my research in regards to rooting and installing a mod.
If I understand this correctly, I need to
1) Root device (going to use toolkit provided by XDA)
2) install MOD or is it ROM?
I want to get 4.3 on my device and I think Hellybean is it?
As far as I know, I don't need to flash it.
I'm very very ignorant on all of this. But believe me, I've been researching now for a while and still not completely confident on all the terms.
I've been able to learn about PC operating systems and have done much tinkering with the various linux distros. I also jailbroke my iPhone but then lost that when 6.3 came out.
The jailbreak for iPhone was rather simple. Just plug and go basically.
This all seems a bit more complicated but I am not going to settle for the Note 2 the way it came with all of the AT&T crapfest.
In short, I won't my phone to never lag, to scroll smoothly from screen to screen and use as little battery as possible.
Any help you all could give me would be eternally appreciated.
I have mad respect for your abilities and wished I didn't have ADHD or I would have been a programmer. All things tech related fascinate me.
thanks in advance,
Perry
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hey, since your new to this and if i were you i would go to www.galaxynote2root.com. it will help with your note 2 needs..
thatmetaldude85 said:
hey, since your new to this and if i were you i would go to www.galaxynote2root.com. it will help with your note 2 needs..
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HEY, he's in the right place to do everything he needs to. And he'll get all the help he needs right here on XDA! That's why he's here. And not there...
IMHO
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Bajanman said:
HEY, he's in the right place to do everything he needs to. And he'll get all the help he needs right here on XDA! That's why he's here. And not there...
IMHO
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You are right that he is in the right place and I never said that he wasn't. Some people that are new to this or new to android might not get it. The website that I gave is going to direct him to here anyways. He posted asking for help so I tried to help.
thatmetaldude85 said:
You are right that he is in the right place and I never said that he wasn't. Some people that are new to this or new to android might not get it. The website that I gave is going to direct him to here anyways. He posted asking for help so I tried to help.
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Thanx bruh...
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thatmetaldude85 said:
You are right that he is in the right place and I never said that he wasn't. Some people that are new to this or new to android might not get it. The website that I gave is going to direct him to here anyways. He posted asking for help so I tried to help.
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I would be weary of zedomax. When I had the S2 his website caused countless problems and then people came to xda for help rather than ask him. He provides no support for those in a pickle, he's in it only for the money and not to truly help others like here on xda. xda has everything you need here.
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no more storage?
I went ahead and rooted and installed clockworkmod and hellybean.. everything went fairly well.. couple of minor
problems like contact duplicates, triplicates, etc.. frustrating.. some of my apps didn't retain their history so I'll have
to start all over on Royal Revolt. But there are much bigger problems in the world so I will be content.
One question I do have though: Even though I have a 32 gb micro sd card on the way, right now my Note 2 is of the 16 gb variety.
After this root and Hellybean install, I'm seeing that most of that 16 gb is used. Where can I actually see what is taking
up so much storage and is there a way to remove some of it? Or is like the Windows OS's like that magically eat up your storage
every time ya sneeze?
Not having used hellybean, but I'll guess it's probably still the same:
Home screen
Menu-> > settings
Storage
....wait for it to calculate the file groupings
Press on any of them to drill down to get a better view of what's eating space.
I was going to post a picture for you, but the xda app doesn't seem to like that any more. Sorry.
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I would love to help you, but help yourself first: ask a better question
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Is there a non-destructive way to free up some of that memory? This seems like
a situation in which a huge portion got allocated to a particular partition. Am I right?
By the way, I'm very pleased with Hellybean. I've now got an international phone, the battery life is noticeably better,
no AT&T junk, smoother startup and shutdown, and the scrolling is just superb.
It does crash or malfunction ever so often but the tradeoff is worth it and a simple reboot clears that up.
Perry2547 said:
I went ahead and rooted and installed clockworkmod and hellybean.. everything went fairly well.. couple of minor
problems like contact duplicates, triplicates, etc.. frustrating.. some of my apps didn't retain their history so I'll have
to start all over on Royal Revolt. But there are much bigger problems in the world so I will be content.
One question I do have though: Even though I have a 32 gb micro sd card on the way, right now my Note 2 is of the 16 gb variety.
After this root and Hellybean install, I'm seeing that most of that 16 gb is used. Where can I actually see what is taking
up so much storage and is there a way to remove some of it? Or is like the Windows OS's like that magically eat up your storage
every time ya sneeze?
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The duplicate contacts assuming you synced with a Google account (gmail) Sound's like it's displaying all your contacts not in a proper group and making dupes as well as showing the contacts saved directly on the phone.
If you are using a google account you can head over to Gmail and arrange and have all your contacts synced there instead and in their respective groups (friends, co-workers, etc) as well as merging/deleting any duplicate people in your phonebook. This actually happened to me as well before, just be sure when you add new numbers to save them via your google account so when you do flash another rom you won't have to worry about backing up your contacts.