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Why not just uninstall bloatware?

Everyone seems to always suggest downloading titanium backup and freezing everything instead of just deleting it. Why? We have plenty of evidence of the apps that it is safe to get rid of and the ones that ya better not. So why does it seem that people are worried about deleting them. I am not a NASCAR fan and I don't see myself becoming one so why not just get rid of the app completely? Am I missing something?
Safe from what I have been told and read to delete are :
Blockbuster
Kindle
Amazon mp3
NOVA
Sprint TV
NASCAR
Sprint Football
Sprint Hotspot
Sprint Navigation

Personal preference, if you don't want them, delete away.

I would say from your list that you are right as long as you have a nandroid backup to restore. I have had my Evo start acting weird after I uninstalled some bloat ware so I restored the nandroid and just froze the apps instead. After CM7 final came out I dropped the stock rom, still have a backup, installed the Cyan goodness and have no plans of going back other than install new radio updates. The main benefit to uninstalling them is to free up space. The choice is yours.

Why waste time deleting them? They are installed to /system, so freeing that up doesn't free up the /data partition.

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Why waste time deleting them? They are installed to /system, so freeing that up doesn't free up the /data partition.
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I'm confused , elaborate for me please.

Everyone is not experienced at flashing and tinkering with their devices. Think about it. A lot of people do things to their devices and when they've messed something up, they post here looking for help without stating what they have already done. Telling people to freeze the stuff they don't want is just a safeguard. Those of us who are a bit more experienced will go beyond TB. I hope that made sense.
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Everyone is not experienced at flashing and tinkering with their devices. Think about it. A lot of people do things to their devices and when they've messed something up, they post here looking for help without stating what they have already done. Telling people to freeze the stuff they don't want is just a safeguard. Those of us who are a bit more experienced will go beyond TB. I hope that made sense.
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That was all I was trying to get across was that if you are new to rooting and deleting/changing system files then you are better off just freezing the apps. It is normally safe but most people try to change something before they realize what they are doing, and don't have or know of a way to fix it. If a person wants to uninstall an app by all means go ahead that is one of the main reason for rooting your phone. It also makes it a lot easier to help them fix it if they know what they did.

Smurph82 said:
That was all I was trying to get across was that if you are new to rooting and deleting/changing system files then you are better off just freezing the apps. It is normally safe but most people try to change something before they realize what they are doing, and don't have or know of a way to fix it. If a person wants to uninstall an app by all means go ahead that is one of the main reason for rooting your phone. It also makes it a lot easier to help them fix it if they know what they did.
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I understand. Thank you for your reply and enjoy the rest of your day...
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I've also heard people use the reasoning that if you uninstall system apps you cannot accept an ota, so they freeze them. This way if they want to update, they can just defrost and accept.
I don't understand wanting to accept an OTA, but I also don't understand staying on the stock rom when there are so many great devs making awesome roms.
But people like what they like, I guess you can't knock that.

Hey there are 3 different people from NC in this thread.
I've also heard people use the reasoning that if you uninstall system apps you cannot accept an ota, so they freeze them. This way if they want to update, they can just defrost and accept.
I don't understand wanting to accept an OTA, but I also don't understand staying on the stock rom when there are so many great devs making awesome roms.
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I thought about staying with the stock rom at first then I saw what I am missing. I love running CM7 and I have tried others. The main thing for me is that I'm now running Android 2.3.3 which has several features that I wanted and got tired of waiting on Sprint. Don't get me wrong I will stay with Sprint and they have one of the better update records but when Android 2.4 is coming fast and I am stuck on 2.2 with 2.3.3 what seems to be everywhere else. I can't stand that. I only hope that the HTC Evo 3D will get rooted because I plan on getting it as soon as it comes out. I was the first person at the Greensboro Besy Buy that got the Evo 4g and I will do it again.

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Hey there are 3 different people from NC in this thread.
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I'm actually from Orlando, Florida and I moved to NC a year ago, however, I will be moving back to Orlando in about a week...LOL...I was getting the "evil eye" for being bold enough to strut around wearing a University of Miami shirt in the land of Hoyas, Tar Heels, Blue Devils and Wolfpacks....
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At least you are still in the ACC.

LOL...That's true..
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haha i came from the droid x now im on cm 7, have you checked out the cm7 update to use a bluetooth mouse and have a mouse pointer on the screen with hdmi miorroring? its awesome. i have a blutooth mouse and keyboard hooked up to my evo and the phone is connected to the tv.. i actually use this now instead of my comp

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haha i came from the droid x now im on cm 7, have you checked out the cm7 update to use a bluetooth mouse and have a mouse pointer on the screen with hdmi miorroring? its awesome. i have a blutooth mouse and keyboard hooked up to my evo and the phone is connected to the tv.. i actually use this now instead of my comp
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WTF??????????

Battery and Clock Color

Hey everybody, First Post, Whoop whoop lol Anyway on with the show, I just flashed over to The gingersnap 1.24 Rom from Juggernaut 5.0, reinstalled everything from titanium backup all normal like, and then ran into a little issue with my clock and battery percentage settings... for some reason they are staying green like I had set before and i cannot for the life of me figure out #1. Why this happened/What changed it and #2 How to change it again... I really try not to bother people on here with stupid question but I'm perplexed by this one and was hoping someone might be able to help me figure it out, i attached a picture of what exactly I'm talking about.
Thanks in advance for anytime anyone is willing to put into this

When you say "reinstalled everything using titanium backup, " does that imply you restored system data? If so, don't restore system data ever. Just restore apps and application data.
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Thats exactly what I mean, so i get to start the whole wonderful process over again lol

rudeboy420 said:
Thats exactly what I mean, so i get to start the whole wonderful process over again lol
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We've probably all done it at some point lol.
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I have found in titanium settings if I enable migrate system data that it will sometimes work across different ROMs, but still never a sure thing. Usually best between same ROM with updated Android components. I have had it work between totally different ROMs as well sometimes. You can also choose to auto integrate sys dalvick too. These have to both be enabled before you run backup to be effective.
This is just my thoughts and advice be prepared with full nandroid backup, and to test different settings as you may have different setup and things to consider.
I AM NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR WHAT YOU CHOOSE TO DO WITH YOUR OWN PERSONAL DEVICE. RUN FULL BACKUPS WHENEVER YOU TRY ANYTHING.
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[Q] Multiple issues after transferring with Titanium Backup

Just to let people know, I'm a relative noob to Android in general and particularly to this site, so have some patience.
My wife's Samsung Galaxy S 4g's screen broke, so she got the T989 as a replacement. After doing some research, it seems that Titanium Backup was the recommended way to move data over. So, I needed to educate myself on how to do that. The original phone was easy and I did the backup. The S II was less easy and after spending way too much time on the i9100 forum, I found out I was in the wrong place.
So, anyways, got her phone jailbroken and ran TB on it to restore. Unfortunately, it seems to be the beginning of my problems. Phone app didn't work. Cleared data there, which she lost her contacts. TWLauncher throws errors. Clear data there as well. Messaging hasn't worked either, and it seems to be the solution is to wipe the whole thing. I also can't seem to browse the file system via USB.
What am I doing wrong here? All I wanted to do was to move everything over from the old phone to the new one, but it seems I bought trouble.

You are reporting a back up from a completely different phone. Restoring data will often cause things to go funny. It's usually recommended to simply restore the app and nothing more. I would recommend just resetting the phone back to stock, full wipe and don't restore anything. See how it functions initially, then once you think things are going well, just start to restore apps.
:beer: cheers
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also, be sure to not restore system apps until you have become a butt more familiar with how everything works. (especially when coming from another device)
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If i wanted to back up a game, i selected back up. I changed the back up location to my external sd card and also used google drive to store the info too. If i install twrp and flash a custom rom, will i be able to install the app and continue playing my game at the same spot i saved it at? I tried searching for the answer but have seen mixed answers via google dancing around my specific question. Thanks everyone for your time.
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knarfies said:
If i wanted to back up a game, i selected back up. I changed the back up location to my external sd card and also used google drive to store the info too. If i install twrp and flash a custom rom, will i be able to install the app and continue playing my game at the same spot i saved it at? I tried searching for the answer but have seen mixed answers via google dancing around my specific question. Thanks everyone for your time.
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It's going to depend on the app really. Some apps don't play well with some roms. I've backed up games and restored to current roms and been fine, while others didn't restore correctly. Trial and error my friend, trial and error.
sent from my T989 full of CM awesomeness and a touch of Venom from the Darkside!!

Thanks man, really dont wanna restart final fantasy iii all over again lol
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[Q] Major lag from touch screen suddenly

Hello.
I have posted this in the forums at Android Central and only got one response. I've had my phone since Feb of this year. Since 11/2 there is major lag. No issues on 11/1. Taps on the home screen are continuously being read as long presses. My lock screen is really laggy, as are home screens and most apps. Bad piggies for whatever reason is working just fine. Most other apps including the keyboard are very laggy. It just seems to be very slow to respond to touch all of a sudden. My phone is rooted stock GB. At AC, I was told an app was hogging RAM. I downloaded Memory Useage from the google play store but it doesn't seem to make a difference. I'm still getting that lady after killing and uninstalling apps. The lag is still there with the native launcher so I really don't think it has anything to do with GO Launcher. I used TiB to revert GOL back to the previous version. I also uninstalled GOLocker as well. I've done a soft reset but it didn't help.
Is there a way to see my Play update history so I can see which apps installed that night? I've always had the occasional lag but it wasn't ever really a big deal. This is greatly interfering with my use of the phone. I am lucky to type a word before the keyboard disappears. Low resources makes sense but I just can't figure out what app is hogging them.
Any help is greatly appreciated. I'm thinking of resting back to unrooted GB to upgrade to stock ICS.

The first app in the my apps list is the most recent one. So start uninstalling from the top.. Now if you had installed an app say 2 months ago, uninstalled it a month ago and then reinstalled it today then it won't show at the top of the list. It will be still at that same spot where it was 2 months ago. So keep in mind if you reinstalled some app.
Also you should uninstall apps from applications in settings so you can clear cache and data for that app. Or you restart after each uninstall.
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BluesRulez said:
The first app in the my apps list is the most recent one. So start uninstalling from the top.. Now if you had installed an app say 2 months ago, uninstalled it a month ago and then reinstalled it today then it won't show at the top of the list. It will be still at that same spot where it was 2 months ago. So keep in mind if you reinstalled some app.
Also you should uninstall apps from applications in settings so you can clear cache and data for that app. Or you restart after each uninstall.
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Thanks but my only options are Sort by Size and Sort Alphabetically. Are you talking about the applications list in Settings? Or is there a better place to uninstall? I know I can go into TiB as well.

cajunlibra said:
Thanks but my only options are Sort by Size and Sort Alphabetically. Are you talking about the applications list in Settings? Or is there a better place to uninstall? I know I can go into TiB as well.
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My apps list is in the play store..
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BluesRulez said:
My apps list is in the play store..
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Thanks. **Slaps forehead**

cajunlibra said:
Thanks. **Slaps forehead**
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This is so frustrating. In the Play Store App, my "Installed" list is alphabetical and the "All" list is listed by install order with the most recent at the top regardless of timestamp of update. I cannot see any option for changing the order. Should I just go by the TiB list? It is showing the apps in order of update and lets me clear cache and uninstall the apps.

cajunlibra said:
This is so frustrating. In the Play Store App, my "Installed" list is alphabetical and the "All" list is listed by install order with the most recent at the top regardless of timestamp of update. I cannot see any option for changing the order. Should I just go by the TiB list? It is showing the apps in order of update and lets me clear cache and uninstall the apps.
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Yeah
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cajunlibra said:
This is so frustrating. In the Play Store App, my "Installed" list is alphabetical and the "All" list is listed by install order with the most recent at the top regardless of timestamp of update. I cannot see any option for changing the order. Should I just go by the TiB list? It is showing the apps in order of update and lets me clear cache and uninstall the apps.
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Now I have removed all apps updated on 11/2 or overnight from the evening of 11/1. The only one I can't touch is Kies. I have frozen it with TiB but I'm still getting the super heavy lag. What can I do next? Do I need to just reset the whole device now and start from scratch?
This is really frustrating. I love my phone and haven't had it long enough to switch to something else. Are there any tests that I can perform to check on the screen itself?
I have also installed OS Monitor and the top apps using up the CPU are OS Monitor, SYstem, Google Play Movies & TV, Android System, gzip. THe % used varies from 0% up to 26% they may last only a second or two. Is there something wrong with my phone? I feel like I've exhausted finding a resource hog.

If you have a custom recovery installed then do a nandroid backup and flash a fresh install of something to test it. If its not broke in the test then you can restore tour backup and continue to troubleshoot. Honestly though its easy enough to just start fresh. I do it every few days/weeks on a new rom.
Heck at this point flash something ICS or even JB. I can't think of a reason to ever use a GB rom again.

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If you have a custom recovery installed then do a nandroid backup and flash a fresh install of something to test it. If its not broke in the test then you can restore tour backup and continue to troubleshoot. Honestly though its easy enough to just start fresh. I do it every few days/weeks on a new rom.
Heck at this point flash something ICS or even JB. I can't think of a reason to ever use a GB rom again.
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Do you have a JB recommendation? I haven't created a nandroid backup because the only one I am aware of with with CWM and I have been told more than once that it isn't reliable on the E4GT so I just completed removed it from my phone. Are there any other methods for getting a nandroid backup?

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Do you have a JB recommendation? I haven't created a nandroid backup because the only one I am aware of with with CWM and I have been told more than once that it isn't reliable on the E4GT so I just completed removed it from my phone. Are there any other methods for getting a nandroid backup?
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Paranoid android 2.50. You can make a nandroid backup from el26 kernel with cwm of an pics rom.
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I'm currently using codename, great rom. I've only used my nandroid backups several times but they do work. Always just made my backup in whatever custom recovery I was using at the time. Can't remember what recovery I used on GB. Its been a while. Edit just use the el26 blues mentioned above
When switching between ROMs or experimenting I use SMS backup and restore and call log backup and restore from market. Its nice to have those old texts and call logs sometimes.

I use SMS Backup cuz I want to save my texts but I don't know if I need to save my call log.
Thanks for the recommendation. Paranoid Android looks pretty cool.
My external SD card is safe right? Does it need to be backed up as well?

cajunlibra said:
I use SMS Backup cuz I want to save my texts but I don't know if I need to save my call log.
Thanks for the recommendation. Paranoid Android looks pretty cool.
My external SD card is safe right? Does it need to be backed up as well?
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External SD never gets wiped during a rom flash. Even internal sd card doesn't.

What's your opinion on Triangle away? Is it safe to use on my e4gt? Just in case this doesn't work, I'll need to reset my count.
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What's your opinion on Triangle away? Is it safe to use on my e4gt? Just in case this doesn't work, I'll need to reset my count.
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I have used once when I flashed jb tar and it worked. I prefer mobile Odin over desktop Odin to flash. Mobile Odin means no triangle.
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I use triangle away all the time, I never use mobile Odin. I think its more risky, not sure why, its all in my head

Thanks. One more question and hopefully we're done here.
I noticed that on the paranoid Android site, they no longer have OTAs. How do you get updates? Do you have to flash each time?
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Do any of you find it odd that bad piggies seems to be immune to this lag issue? I played it on my to work this morning. Other apps get bogged down. Thank you all for your help and advice.
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Custom roms typically require manual updates. Very few update automatically and i have never tried paranoid.
I'm not even sure what bad piggies is.

[INFO][RESEARCH] JB Flash Counter, Triangle Away

Please go to POST 56 for updated information. I will update the OP over the weekend. Thanks!​
As many of you already know, with our recent official Jelly Bean release came a new, updated flash counter. With ICS we were able to either just root via the root66 method and not trip the counter, or we could just use Chainfire's Triangle Away app to reset it. This is no longer the case. Now, with JB, unless our firmware meets a very strict set of conditions, it will trip the counter every time you reboot the device. If you simply just flash the root66 firmware, and do nothing else beyond that, you will not raise your count. But then, whats the point of rooting???
DON'T PANIC!
We can still zero it out for Warranty returns! The biggest issues arise when you want to utilize certain apps and/or services such as All Share Cast, Media Hub and other Samsung apps. For example, if you have purchased the $100 equipment, the All Share Cast Hub, it will not work! Additionally, DRM protected content may not play anymore. (Probably just applies to DRM protected media you got from Samsung, but this needs verification). For example, if you got to download the Avengers a couple of months ago, it will not play, even though it is perfectly legal to do so!
So are we able to get around this? Yes and No, for the moment. There are at least 2 separate detections going on. One is done post-boot, using the SysScope app. If you remove this from /system/app/ you will be able to install a custom recovery, and probably also a kernel and another modem without tripping the counter! I have yet to see any negative side effects from removing this app, so until I find more info proving otherwise, I suggest backing it up and deleting it. Hopefully Chainfire will decide to update Triangle Away to counter the updated detection. He may not though. Please read what he has to say about it here.
This does not solve the whole problem though. There is still another method Samsung coded in to detect if your system has been modified. I am not sure yet what is responsible fot this. But if you were to simply deodex your rom, it will begin tripping the counter at boot again! (It may not be the deodexing that is trigging it though, I believe it is also scanning for any processes that are running with root privledges that should not be there, and it may also have to do with busybox). Either way, if you are running pretty much any kind of custom rom, it will retrip the counter at bootup. This method is different in that it happens during boot, not after, and it does not look at recovery, and probably not at kernel or modem either. It appears to look specifically at the system partition for anything not stock. I am trying to narrow this down.
Because the other 2nd part seems to happen during bootup, I think that Chainfire's paid version may be able to help here. If you purchase it on the Play Store, it will have enabled the ability to Auto run at boot. Since SysScope is now removed, I dont think any detections are running post-boot anymore, meaning Auto run from Triangle Away should work. I do not have the paid version to test with right now. But I will try and test this soon.
I am fairly certain that the rest of the detection process is running either from the kernel, or from a completely separate partition. It is going to require quite a few flashes and test to narrow it down for sure. So if you guys will report your experiences with it, particularly on different kernels, I would be greatly appreciative.
As I find and/or remember more about this, I will update it here. If anyone has any other information about this, please do post it here! Any help, tips, info, etc that you can provide can be very helpful!
I hope this all made sense to you guys! I will go back and clarify some stuff a little later, but Ive got a 6 year old kid going stir crazy waiting on me to be done with this! I wanted to go ahead and get something up though to get the conversation started! I will also post some links to some information later on.
In the meantime, you can Odin back to ICS build UVALJ4, and then flash your roms from there...yes even the JB ones! I hate saying that after suggesting to Odin flash the JB update, but if you have anything not working because of this, it may be your best option temporarily.
Otherwise, delete SysScope from /system/app! And keep Triangle Away handy!
I will continue doing a lot of testing and trying to investigate this problem. But I do appreciate any help that you guys can give!
Hopefully, with a little luck we can figure this out! :highfive:
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I think that pretty much covers it...
I know that if you triangle away, and reboot to download mode, the counter's zero... if you boot into recovery and then boot into download mode the counter's still zero...
It gets triggered when you boot into the actual rom... I wonder if you odin to JB... then actually flash down to an ICS rom, does the counter get reset on boot?

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I think that pretty much covers it...
I know that if you triangle away, and reboot to download mode, the counter's zero... if you boot into recovery and then boot into download mode the counter's still zero...
It gets triggered when you boot into the actual rom... I wonder if you odin to JB... then actually flash down to an ICS rom, does the counter get reset on boot?
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That's SysScope running after booting up. Flashing an ics rom over a fully updated JB will most likely also trip the counter due to the 2nd part of the device check which runs during boot. Worth trying though.
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Also need to find out if its the deodexing that triggers it, or something like busybox.
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Good info. And nice write up so your saying if we odin root66 ics we are ok to say flash gs3r7.zip to jb and the new custom rom detection wont be present?
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There's also a manual way I used to reset, back when my touchscreen died (and therefore could not even use TriangleAway) that we should 'throw into the mix' and test against JB...lemme see if I can dig up that thread...
Okay, here was the progenitor post, that may give clues if the old (ICS) way no longer works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28953690&postcount=67
and the resultant manual method, which I verified worked on TMO (ICS):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781471

1Shotwonder said:
Good info. And nice write up so your saying if we odin root66 ics we are ok to say flash gs3r7.zip to jb and the new custom rom detection wont be present?
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Thanks!
Yes that is correct. I cannot guarantee you wont have any other bugs. Doing it this way you are essentially running half ics half jb. If you have no need of samsung services like media hub or all share cast, id go full jb. Otherwise id go with the ics UVALJ4 firmware and a jb rom.
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There's also a manual way I used to reset, back when my touchscreen died (and therefore could not even use TriangleAway) that we should 'throw into the mix' and test against JB...lemme see if I can dig up that thread...
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That would be great! Thanks!
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Good job Doc... :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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Doc, I'd be more than happy to help out with this. Just shoot me a PM about where you are heading and I can see what I can do. I'm not adverse to getting in deep, so that is a non-issue.
My initial thoughts are to take a pretty simple approach and, for lack of a better few words, do a side-by-side of the new JB and the recent leaks and see what is different. Obviously it is a bit harder than than but we could breakdown the /system/apps, then move on the each partition scheme and see what the differences are and why they are different. Then start crossing off things like apps, 2boot check, something buried in on of the other partitions, ....

Really Samsung? God this crap is really starting to piss me off. Love how manufacturers don't want be enjoying my device.
On a more positive note, can't Samsung deny claims for just the CPU?
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only thing that bothers me is the avengers movie not playing in any of the players on the GS3R7 rom. ( I have tried to reset the counter and still does not play the movie... any ideas? It does work on stock jb root66 though). Other than that I dont use any other samsung apps. The other issue I have come across is with Root Explorer when trying to modify the build.prop for GW I can edit the build.prop but it will not save the changes I believe this to be an issue with the sdcard now being sdcard0 but I am not 100% any one have a way around this or know the fix?

wideasleep1 said:
There's also a manual way I used to reset, back when my touchscreen died (and therefore could not even use TriangleAway) that we should 'throw into the mix' and test against JB...lemme see if I can dig up that thread...
Okay, here was the progenitor post, that may give clues if the old (ICS) way no longer works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28953690&postcount=67
and the resultant manual method, which I verified worked on TMO (ICS):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781471
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Thanks for looking those back up. Ill be checking them out later on today.
Woodrube said:
Doc, I'd be more than happy to help out with this. Just shoot me a PM about where you are heading and I can see what I can do. I'm not adverse to getting in deep, so that is a non-issue.
My initial thoughts are to take a pretty simple approach and, for lack of a better few words, do a side-by-side of the new JB and the recent leaks and see what is different. Obviously it is a bit harder than than but we could breakdown the /system/apps, then move on the each partition scheme and see what the differences are and why they are different. Then start crossing off things like apps, 2boot check, something buried in on of the other partitions, ....
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sounds good man! Kinda have a feeling ill be needing help on this one! Ill shoot you a pm later on. Gotta get going for now, but wanted to respond real quick.
1Shotwonder said:
only thing that bothers me is the avengers movie not playing in any of the players on the GS3R7 rom. ( I have tried to reset the counter and still does not play the movie... any ideas? It does work on stock jb root66 though). Other than that I dont use any other samsung apps. The other issue I have come across is with Root Explorer when trying to modify the build.prop for GW I can edit the build.prop but it will not save the changes I believe this to be an issue with the sdcard now being sdcard0 but I am not 100% any one have a way around this or know the fix?
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Its another thing I've got to figure out. If its just breaking Samsung related/downloaded stuff, or is it screwing with DRM altogether.
As to your other issue, wallets included with jb now so I assumed it wouldn't require a 'fix'. But it sounds more like a superuser problem with root explorer. Download chainfires cwm supersu from his thread and flash it. See if that helps. Not going to be related to this stuff though.
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Does reverting back to ics roll back the flash counter? I am really liking JB TW maybe time for a change lol
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Unfortunately I doesn't work that way. Would be sweet if it did, then all we'd have to do is roll back and we'd be good. Plus we could figure out the trigger and remedy it.

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Does reverting back to ics roll back the flash counter? I am really liking JB TW maybe time for a change lol
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If I'm not mistaken, you should be able to revert to ICS then use triangleaway and your counter will stay at 0.
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Unfortunately I doesn't work that way. Would be sweet if it did, then all we'd have to do is roll back and we'd be good. Plus we could figure out the trigger and remedy it.
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Triangle away, boot to recovery, then flash ICS on your phone...

Well my counter is stuck at 1 lol
What exactly trips the counter? I've seen multiple answers for the question but I figured ide ask here since there are so many knowledgeable people here
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So ive been reading this and from what i can gather, it seems that samsung (or T-Mobile) placed a new apk file into the system directory (or maybe a lib file?) and that if you root your device, every time you reboot your phone, it will +1 to the flash counter?
Has anyone asked any ATT, Sprint or Verizon users if their flash counter goes up with root after each reboot as well? If it doesnt, we could probably do a system file comparison between the two to isolate the file(s) which are causing the incremental flash counter at boot.

That's what I was saying earlier about comparing official and leak and seeing the differences. Sprint is the only one that has had official so not sure if that would work for us. Think we need to differentiate between Samsung and TMo and see where the "fault" lies.

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That's what I was saying earlier about comparing official and leak and seeing the differences. Sprint is the only one that has had official so not sure if that would work for us. Think we need to differentiate between Samsung and TMo and see where the "fault" lies.
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That sounds like a good idea. I'll download one of the leaks and see if anything is obvious. It may also be a new line of code inside an apk or lib file as well. Making things a bit more difficult. As im comparing them i will check the size of each APK as well as if new code is added to them it should increase the size of the compiled apk. And i have my computer set up to show individual bytes of data.