Hi, I'm new.
Just got the Note 2 (i317) and have been doing my research in regards to rooting and installing a mod.
If I understand this correctly, I need to
1) Root device (going to use toolkit provided by XDA)
2) install MOD or is it ROM?
I want to get 4.3 on my device and I think Hellybean is it?
As far as I know, I don't need to flash it.
I'm very very ignorant on all of this. But believe me, I've been researching now for a while and still not completely confident on all the terms.
I've been able to learn about PC operating systems and have done much tinkering with the various linux distros. I also jailbroke my iPhone but then lost that when 6.3 came out.
The jailbreak for iPhone was rather simple. Just plug and go basically.
This all seems a bit more complicated but I am not going to settle for the Note 2 the way it came with all of the AT&T crapfest.
In short, I won't my phone to never lag, to scroll smoothly from screen to screen and use as little battery as possible.
Any help you all could give me would be eternally appreciated.
I have mad respect for your abilities and wished I didn't have ADHD or I would have been a programmer. All things tech related fascinate me.
thanks in advance,
Perry
YouTube it things are much simpler with video instructions
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Hope you enjoy the Note 2 it is a great device. Yes you will need to root your device. Then install Roms or Mods or both. Once rooted the possibilities are almost endless. There are plenty of people here that are willing to help out. All I can really suggest is make sure you read read read before asking questions. Most of the answers to any questions you may have are here already. Welcome to the community!
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Ok is easy ....:thumbup:
1.-Download framaroot
2.-Download recovery for market
3.-search rom Rom anyway. ...
4.-back-up
5.-Steaps for install rom...
Wipe cache ,format sistem. Etc....bla bla...
6.-reboot
7.-congratulations. ...:beer:
Lots of conflicting instructions here. If you want a custom rom you
first need a pc running Odin software.
Download TWRP for odin. This is called a custom recovery.
Flash TWRP.
Go get the rom you want and download it to your phone.
Reboot to TWRP recovery.
Wipe data and system. Flash rom. The rom will be rooted by the creator of it.
Sign in and set up your phone. Browse for more roms.
You are now an addict.
rangercaptain said:
Lots of conflicting instructions here. If you want a custom rom you
first need a pc running Odin software.
Download TWRP for odin. This is called a custom recovery.
Flash TWRP.
Go get the rom you want and download it to your phone.
Reboot to TWRP recovery.
Wipe data and system. Flash rom. The rom will be rooted by the creator of it.
Sign in and set up your phone. Browse for more roms.
You are now an addict.
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You have to be rooted first... I used chsinfires method.
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Welcome to the GN2 community buddy... :thumbup::thumbup:
First off start HERE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=43514894
Then for rooting go HERE:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=33854391
Sometimes people try to help but don't give the right info. Especially to someone that's very new to the flashing world!! Lol
But the FIRST thing you need to do is make a back up after you get your recovery installed!!! That's your first step. So if down the road you run into problems you'll have yourself, a new untouched back up waiting for you.
And the best thing your doing is your reading and learning the basics of Android...
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Thanks for all the help. I just rooted and now I have another question (can't seem to find the answer to this on youtube). Do I need to download the ROM (hellybean) to internal storage or to a micro sd that i've yet to put into my phone? Will the internal storage be completely erased?
mataflakitas said:
Ok is easy ....:thumbup:
1.-Download framaroot
2.-Download recovery for market
3.-search rom Rom anyway. ...
4.-back-up
5.-Steaps for install rom...
Wipe cache ,format sistem. Etc....bla bla...
6.-reboot
7.-congratulations. ...:beer:
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Framaroot isn't working with the latest att update. Odin is his best bet.
BR7fan said:
Framaroot isn't working with the latest att update. Odin is his best bet.
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I don't use Odin except returning to stock. And that's ONLY when necessary. I don't use it if I don't have to. And u don't have to to root or install recovery. Frankly it scares me.
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softballjunkee13 said:
I don't use Odin except returning to stock. And that's ONLY when necessary. I don't use it if I don't have to. And u don't have to to root or install recovery. Frankly it scares me.
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Perry2547 said:
Hi, I'm new.
Just got the Note 2 (i317) and have been doing my research in regards to rooting and installing a mod.
If I understand this correctly, I need to
1) Root device (going to use toolkit provided by XDA)
2) install MOD or is it ROM?
I want to get 4.3 on my device and I think Hellybean is it?
As far as I know, I don't need to flash it.
I'm very very ignorant on all of this. But believe me, I've been researching now for a while and still not completely confident on all the terms.
I've been able to learn about PC operating systems and have done much tinkering with the various linux distros. I also jailbroke my iPhone but then lost that when 6.3 came out.
The jailbreak for iPhone was rather simple. Just plug and go basically.
This all seems a bit more complicated but I am not going to settle for the Note 2 the way it came with all of the AT&T crapfest.
In short, I won't my phone to never lag, to scroll smoothly from screen to screen and use as little battery as possible.
Any help you all could give me would be eternally appreciated.
I have mad respect for your abilities and wished I didn't have ADHD or I would have been a programmer. All things tech related fascinate me.
thanks in advance,
Perry
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hey, since your new to this and if i were you i would go to www.galaxynote2root.com. it will help with your note 2 needs..
thatmetaldude85 said:
hey, since your new to this and if i were you i would go to www.galaxynote2root.com. it will help with your note 2 needs..
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HEY, he's in the right place to do everything he needs to. And he'll get all the help he needs right here on XDA! That's why he's here. And not there...
IMHO
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Bajanman said:
HEY, he's in the right place to do everything he needs to. And he'll get all the help he needs right here on XDA! That's why he's here. And not there...
IMHO
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You are right that he is in the right place and I never said that he wasn't. Some people that are new to this or new to android might not get it. The website that I gave is going to direct him to here anyways. He posted asking for help so I tried to help.
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You are right that he is in the right place and I never said that he wasn't. Some people that are new to this or new to android might not get it. The website that I gave is going to direct him to here anyways. He posted asking for help so I tried to help.
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Thanx bruh...
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thatmetaldude85 said:
You are right that he is in the right place and I never said that he wasn't. Some people that are new to this or new to android might not get it. The website that I gave is going to direct him to here anyways. He posted asking for help so I tried to help.
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I would be weary of zedomax. When I had the S2 his website caused countless problems and then people came to xda for help rather than ask him. He provides no support for those in a pickle, he's in it only for the money and not to truly help others like here on xda. xda has everything you need here.
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no more storage?
I went ahead and rooted and installed clockworkmod and hellybean.. everything went fairly well.. couple of minor
problems like contact duplicates, triplicates, etc.. frustrating.. some of my apps didn't retain their history so I'll have
to start all over on Royal Revolt. But there are much bigger problems in the world so I will be content.
One question I do have though: Even though I have a 32 gb micro sd card on the way, right now my Note 2 is of the 16 gb variety.
After this root and Hellybean install, I'm seeing that most of that 16 gb is used. Where can I actually see what is taking
up so much storage and is there a way to remove some of it? Or is like the Windows OS's like that magically eat up your storage
every time ya sneeze?
Not having used hellybean, but I'll guess it's probably still the same:
Home screen
Menu-> > settings
Storage
....wait for it to calculate the file groupings
Press on any of them to drill down to get a better view of what's eating space.
I was going to post a picture for you, but the xda app doesn't seem to like that any more. Sorry.
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I would love to help you, but help yourself first: ask a better question
http://www.catb.org/~esr/faqs/smart-questions.html
Is there a non-destructive way to free up some of that memory? This seems like
a situation in which a huge portion got allocated to a particular partition. Am I right?
By the way, I'm very pleased with Hellybean. I've now got an international phone, the battery life is noticeably better,
no AT&T junk, smoother startup and shutdown, and the scrolling is just superb.
It does crash or malfunction ever so often but the tradeoff is worth it and a simple reboot clears that up.
Perry2547 said:
I went ahead and rooted and installed clockworkmod and hellybean.. everything went fairly well.. couple of minor
problems like contact duplicates, triplicates, etc.. frustrating.. some of my apps didn't retain their history so I'll have
to start all over on Royal Revolt. But there are much bigger problems in the world so I will be content.
One question I do have though: Even though I have a 32 gb micro sd card on the way, right now my Note 2 is of the 16 gb variety.
After this root and Hellybean install, I'm seeing that most of that 16 gb is used. Where can I actually see what is taking
up so much storage and is there a way to remove some of it? Or is like the Windows OS's like that magically eat up your storage
every time ya sneeze?
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The duplicate contacts assuming you synced with a Google account (gmail) Sound's like it's displaying all your contacts not in a proper group and making dupes as well as showing the contacts saved directly on the phone.
If you are using a google account you can head over to Gmail and arrange and have all your contacts synced there instead and in their respective groups (friends, co-workers, etc) as well as merging/deleting any duplicate people in your phonebook. This actually happened to me as well before, just be sure when you add new numbers to save them via your google account so when you do flash another rom you won't have to worry about backing up your contacts.
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Everyone seems to always suggest downloading titanium backup and freezing everything instead of just deleting it. Why? We have plenty of evidence of the apps that it is safe to get rid of and the ones that ya better not. So why does it seem that people are worried about deleting them. I am not a NASCAR fan and I don't see myself becoming one so why not just get rid of the app completely? Am I missing something?
Safe from what I have been told and read to delete are :
Blockbuster
Kindle
Amazon mp3
NOVA
Sprint TV
NASCAR
Sprint Football
Sprint Hotspot
Sprint Navigation
Personal preference, if you don't want them, delete away.
I would say from your list that you are right as long as you have a nandroid backup to restore. I have had my Evo start acting weird after I uninstalled some bloat ware so I restored the nandroid and just froze the apps instead. After CM7 final came out I dropped the stock rom, still have a backup, installed the Cyan goodness and have no plans of going back other than install new radio updates. The main benefit to uninstalling them is to free up space. The choice is yours.
Why waste time deleting them? They are installed to /system, so freeing that up doesn't free up the /data partition.
strung said:
Why waste time deleting them? They are installed to /system, so freeing that up doesn't free up the /data partition.
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I'm confused , elaborate for me please.
Everyone is not experienced at flashing and tinkering with their devices. Think about it. A lot of people do things to their devices and when they've messed something up, they post here looking for help without stating what they have already done. Telling people to freeze the stuff they don't want is just a safeguard. Those of us who are a bit more experienced will go beyond TB. I hope that made sense.
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Everyone is not experienced at flashing and tinkering with their devices. Think about it. A lot of people do things to their devices and when they've messed something up, they post here looking for help without stating what they have already done. Telling people to freeze the stuff they don't want is just a safeguard. Those of us who are a bit more experienced will go beyond TB. I hope that made sense.
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That was all I was trying to get across was that if you are new to rooting and deleting/changing system files then you are better off just freezing the apps. It is normally safe but most people try to change something before they realize what they are doing, and don't have or know of a way to fix it. If a person wants to uninstall an app by all means go ahead that is one of the main reason for rooting your phone. It also makes it a lot easier to help them fix it if they know what they did.
Smurph82 said:
That was all I was trying to get across was that if you are new to rooting and deleting/changing system files then you are better off just freezing the apps. It is normally safe but most people try to change something before they realize what they are doing, and don't have or know of a way to fix it. If a person wants to uninstall an app by all means go ahead that is one of the main reason for rooting your phone. It also makes it a lot easier to help them fix it if they know what they did.
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I understand. Thank you for your reply and enjoy the rest of your day...
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I've also heard people use the reasoning that if you uninstall system apps you cannot accept an ota, so they freeze them. This way if they want to update, they can just defrost and accept.
I don't understand wanting to accept an OTA, but I also don't understand staying on the stock rom when there are so many great devs making awesome roms.
But people like what they like, I guess you can't knock that.
Hey there are 3 different people from NC in this thread.
I've also heard people use the reasoning that if you uninstall system apps you cannot accept an ota, so they freeze them. This way if they want to update, they can just defrost and accept.
I don't understand wanting to accept an OTA, but I also don't understand staying on the stock rom when there are so many great devs making awesome roms.
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I thought about staying with the stock rom at first then I saw what I am missing. I love running CM7 and I have tried others. The main thing for me is that I'm now running Android 2.3.3 which has several features that I wanted and got tired of waiting on Sprint. Don't get me wrong I will stay with Sprint and they have one of the better update records but when Android 2.4 is coming fast and I am stuck on 2.2 with 2.3.3 what seems to be everywhere else. I can't stand that. I only hope that the HTC Evo 3D will get rooted because I plan on getting it as soon as it comes out. I was the first person at the Greensboro Besy Buy that got the Evo 4g and I will do it again.
Smurph82 said:
Hey there are 3 different people from NC in this thread.
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I'm actually from Orlando, Florida and I moved to NC a year ago, however, I will be moving back to Orlando in about a week...LOL...I was getting the "evil eye" for being bold enough to strut around wearing a University of Miami shirt in the land of Hoyas, Tar Heels, Blue Devils and Wolfpacks....
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At least you are still in the ACC.
LOL...That's true..
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haha i came from the droid x now im on cm 7, have you checked out the cm7 update to use a bluetooth mouse and have a mouse pointer on the screen with hdmi miorroring? its awesome. i have a blutooth mouse and keyboard hooked up to my evo and the phone is connected to the tv.. i actually use this now instead of my comp
keejung said:
haha i came from the droid x now im on cm 7, have you checked out the cm7 update to use a bluetooth mouse and have a mouse pointer on the screen with hdmi miorroring? its awesome. i have a blutooth mouse and keyboard hooked up to my evo and the phone is connected to the tv.. i actually use this now instead of my comp
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WTF??????????
The question: Can I root a phone to try apps without affecting my updated ICS fix from sprint and without changing how my phone looks and feels?
My assumption: When I root it uses a ROM that someone "hacked" and it overwrites my updated ICS update.
The facts: I got the original ICS roll-out from sprint and very recently also the "fix" update to ICS from OTA. I have never rooted a phone and I'm thinking about it because my battery life has gone to hell, and my signal strength is a mess.
I'd also like to get mass storage options back to get compatibility with a usb head unit.
NGL_BrSH said:
The question: Can I root a phone to try apps without affecting my updated ICS fix from sprint and without changing how my phone looks and feels?
My assumption: When I root it uses a ROM that someone "hacked" and it overwrites my updated ICS update.
The facts: I got the original ICS roll-out from sprint and very recently also the "fix" update to ICS from OTA. I have never rooted a phone and I'm thinking about it because my battery life has gone to hell, and my signal strength is a mess.
I'd also like to get mass storage options back to get compatibility with a usb head unit.
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So, you got the original roll out to Ics, then you got a second update?
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MoHoGalore said:
So, you got the original roll out to Ics, then you got a second update?
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That is correct. The second update was about a week ago or so.
NGL_BrSH said:
That is correct. The second update was about a week ago or so.
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I was waiting to see of anyone else was going to respond but since I'm going to call it a night, I'll throw my 2 cents in, then I'll wait for my change..
I had to ask about the "second" update since the only thing i know is this- The original roll out was paused, then when it started up again, small fixes were noticed. One being the Swype issue. Not big changes according to some.
So to answer your question about rooting to try apps, just use sfhubs one click for ff18. Clear the cache on Swype after that. Then try your apps..
I'd suggest reading up on backing up your data, etc, so when you notice that stock battery life, look and feel and all of that isn't different, and you want to go back, you can.
Or just save all of that trouble and root and flash the stock tweaked ics rom, with a custom kernal, and enjoy a stock, rooted, long lasting daily experience..
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Ok. So when you say stock tweaked ics rom you are saying that it's going to overwrite the updated ics i got through ota? I also don't want to lose my contacts and apps that are installed and also all the"theme" work I've done to this. I just want less Los.. More battery life and usb mass storage feature back.
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NGL_BrSH said:
Ok. So when you say stock tweaked ics rom you are saying that it's going to overwrite the updated ics i got through ota? I also don't want to lose my contacts and apps that are installed and also all the"theme" work I've done to this. I just want less Los.. More battery life and usb mass storage feature back.
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The stock tweaked rom is located on the Dev section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29788992
For your concerns, you can attempt to address issue by issue.
Sync contacts w google.
Change modems to address the los issues you have.
Use titanium backup for your apps.
Use a custom kernel for your battery life.
And use sfhubs storage mode fix.
Or, sync contacts w google, use tb for your apps and find a great rom that addresses the rest of the issues.
You keep saying something about an update to ics, but the latest ff18 rom builds have all ics and more..
(and of course you can always go back stock of you choose..)
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Ok so bear with me here.
If I do the latter as you suggest (and I greatly appreciate your time and answers) would I have to personalize my phone all over again like it was new out of the box or does TB restore my apps like nothing ever happened?
I'm getting really close to pulling the trigger here but it makes me nervous because I do so very much business with my outlook account, GPS, messaging and WIFI.
If I screw it up I'll be dead in the water with no love from our IT department haha.
I come as a PC power user. overclocking, hacking etc. Is TB like when I make a exact image of my operating system and all it's contents and then if something goes wrong I can just blast it to a HDD and it's like nothing ever happened?
I have trouble leaving things be when they "work".
Thanks again.
MoHoGalore said:
The stock tweaked rom is located on the Dev section. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=29788992
For your concerns, you can attempt to address issue by issue.
Sync contacts w google.
Change modems to address the los issues you have.
Use titanium backup for your apps.
Use a custom kernel for your battery life.
And use sfhubs storage mode fix.
Or, sync contacts w google, use tb for your apps and find a great rom that addresses the rest of the issues.
You keep saying something about an update to ics, but the latest ff18 rom builds have all ics and more..
(and of course you can always go back stock of you choose..)
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NGL_BrSH said:
Ok so bear with me here.
If I do the latter as you suggest (and I greatly appreciate your time and answers) would I have to personalize my phone all over again like it was new out of the box or does TB restore my apps like nothing ever happened?
I'm getting really close to pulling the trigger here but it makes me nervous because I do so very much business with my outlook account, GPS, messaging and WIFI.
If I screw it up I'll be dead in the water with no love from our IT department haha.
I come as a PC power user. overclocking, hacking etc. Is TB like when I make a exact image of my operating system and all it's contents and then if something goes wrong I can just blast it to a HDD and it's like nothing ever happened?
I have trouble leaving things be when they "work".
Thanks again.
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First off, you're welcome. And if I say something off kilter about what you are wanting to do, believe me there will be people that say so. (Surprisingly, It's a quiet thread)
What you would refer to as an img in PC, Nandroid is what you would call it here. You can find out all about that with a very helpful guide [TUT] What Is Nandroid And How To Use It [Complete Guide] [VeNuM]
Be sure to use it if you're that dependent on your phone for work.
Speaking of which, if you don't have a backup plan for your phone, I'd hold off on puling that trigger until you have read all that you can.
Using Titanium Backup, as with any software, can fail. Be sure to know how to backup and restore and when and what you can restore. Don't go from ICS to GB and try without expecting issues. There are other apps as well, MybackupPro, astro file manager.. Just do your homework.
Having a nandroid is essential for me. If you rename the backup, do NOT put any spaces in the name. It's also a strong suggestion to verify md5 if you plan on moving and storing - Don't delete the original without verifying the copy with md5. Just search for a md5 checker.
If you do decide to flash, good luck. Ton's of smarter people than me here tat can help, just make a backup..
I've been reading my butt off here but I still don't have a grasp of the rooting.
When I root a phone doesn't it overwrite all my stuff? Then how would I be able to use Titanium Back up to back up all my previous stuff?
I bet I'll understand much better once I actually root it but like you said I'm trying to get a grasp of it all before I commit.
Rooting alone, no.
If you use sfhubs ff18, rooted, no data, you will not lose your current setup and data. http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=27635571
You'll just be rooted.
For TB I'll refer you to this - http://www.titaniumtrack.com/kb/titanium-backup-kb
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man i am loving it
I'm glad you like it! (My opinion At least) rooting it and installing a jellybean ROM makes it a lot better, plus you get to use some amazinhg apps that require a rooted phone
sweet
blacuda said:
I'm glad you like it! (My opinion At least) rooting it and installing a jellybean ROM makes it a lot better, plus you get to use some amazinhg apps that require a rooted phone
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sweet, actually im running blazer 1.9 ROM with L13 modem and it is supersmooth. I have a question though, how do you update kernel?
You clear the cache partition and dalvik cache, and then install the kernall from SD card. There are some good kernels over at the sprint galaxy s3 original development section, make sure its for your type of ROM first though.
blacuda said:
You clear the cache partition and dalvik cache, and then install the kernall from SD card. There are some good kernels over at the sprint galaxy s3 original development section, make sure its for your type of ROM first though.
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I am now using the BLAZER ROM 1.9 and i am getting an error when trying to get an app. It says ythat I have insufficient storage and i have WAYYY plenty. Ive cleared dalvik and still nothing. I cleared history and nothing. Sux i cannot post in the dev section
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I am now using the BLAZER ROM 1.9 and i am getting an error when trying to get an app. It says ythat I have insufficient storage and i have WAYYY plenty. Ive cleared dalvik and still nothing. I cleared history and nothing. Sux i cannot post in the dev section
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No, actually it's perfect that you can't. Use the Q & A section for that stuff or try searching to see if somene else has had the same issue. I love my SGS3, as well, btw. One of the best devices I've ever owned including my gaming laptop, my original Nintendo, Super Nintendo and XBOX 360.
The Root said:
No, actually it's perfect that you can't. Use the Q & A section for that stuff or try searching to see if somene else has had the same issue. I love my SGS3, as well, btw. One of the best devices I've ever owned including my gaming laptop, my original Nintendo, Super Nintendo and XBOX 360.
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Ahh ok. I have been looking everywhere for a solution to my problem, Ive surfed the forums and found some others who had issue but their troubleshooting steps are either not helpful or the apps they use cant even be installed on my GS3 because of this bug. For example, I read that using Lucky Patcher is the best solution but then I tried to install it and it said "no storage" available.
Some apps install and some do not..thats is what is wierd about it. Most say its the app trying to authenticate the OS
ugore said:
Ahh ok. I have been looking everywhere for a solution to my problem, Ive surfed the forums and found some others who had issue but their troubleshooting steps are either not helpful or the apps they use cant even be installed on my GS3 because of this bug. For example, I read that using Lucky Patcher is the best solution but then I tried to install it and it said "no storage" available.
Some apps install and some do not..thats is what is wierd about it. Most say its the app trying to authenticate the OS
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FIXED!!! was ROMTOOLBOX set to save to SD..moved it back to Internal and voila it works
ANOTHER ? LOL
why dont we have a 4G icon? GS3 doesnt support 4G? its only LTE or 3g?
at first i thought this was a iphone 4/4s deal but then i said wth ill get it boy was i surprised at what they did screen is clear it feels good in my hand the overall aspect of the phone is nice
I ended up having a commercial moment the other day. At Starbucks and checking Twitter. Old dude goes, "that's not the new iPhone is it?" I go, "nah it's the galaxy s3." He goes, "nice f'ing screen"
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The Root said:
I ended up having a commercial moment the other day. At Starbucks and checking Twitter. Old dude goes, "that's not the new iPhone is it?" I go, "nah it's the galaxy s3." He goes, "nice f'ing screen"
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thats what im talking bout
ugore said:
thats what im talking bout
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anyone using romtoolbox? I am unable to change my battery icon even though ive selected the icon many times and it installed many times
Please go to POST 56 for updated information. I will update the OP over the weekend. Thanks!
As many of you already know, with our recent official Jelly Bean release came a new, updated flash counter. With ICS we were able to either just root via the root66 method and not trip the counter, or we could just use Chainfire's Triangle Away app to reset it. This is no longer the case. Now, with JB, unless our firmware meets a very strict set of conditions, it will trip the counter every time you reboot the device. If you simply just flash the root66 firmware, and do nothing else beyond that, you will not raise your count. But then, whats the point of rooting???
DON'T PANIC!
We can still zero it out for Warranty returns! The biggest issues arise when you want to utilize certain apps and/or services such as All Share Cast, Media Hub and other Samsung apps. For example, if you have purchased the $100 equipment, the All Share Cast Hub, it will not work! Additionally, DRM protected content may not play anymore. (Probably just applies to DRM protected media you got from Samsung, but this needs verification). For example, if you got to download the Avengers a couple of months ago, it will not play, even though it is perfectly legal to do so!
So are we able to get around this? Yes and No, for the moment. There are at least 2 separate detections going on. One is done post-boot, using the SysScope app. If you remove this from /system/app/ you will be able to install a custom recovery, and probably also a kernel and another modem without tripping the counter! I have yet to see any negative side effects from removing this app, so until I find more info proving otherwise, I suggest backing it up and deleting it. Hopefully Chainfire will decide to update Triangle Away to counter the updated detection. He may not though. Please read what he has to say about it here.
This does not solve the whole problem though. There is still another method Samsung coded in to detect if your system has been modified. I am not sure yet what is responsible fot this. But if you were to simply deodex your rom, it will begin tripping the counter at boot again! (It may not be the deodexing that is trigging it though, I believe it is also scanning for any processes that are running with root privledges that should not be there, and it may also have to do with busybox). Either way, if you are running pretty much any kind of custom rom, it will retrip the counter at bootup. This method is different in that it happens during boot, not after, and it does not look at recovery, and probably not at kernel or modem either. It appears to look specifically at the system partition for anything not stock. I am trying to narrow this down.
Because the other 2nd part seems to happen during bootup, I think that Chainfire's paid version may be able to help here. If you purchase it on the Play Store, it will have enabled the ability to Auto run at boot. Since SysScope is now removed, I dont think any detections are running post-boot anymore, meaning Auto run from Triangle Away should work. I do not have the paid version to test with right now. But I will try and test this soon.
I am fairly certain that the rest of the detection process is running either from the kernel, or from a completely separate partition. It is going to require quite a few flashes and test to narrow it down for sure. So if you guys will report your experiences with it, particularly on different kernels, I would be greatly appreciative.
As I find and/or remember more about this, I will update it here. If anyone has any other information about this, please do post it here! Any help, tips, info, etc that you can provide can be very helpful!
I hope this all made sense to you guys! I will go back and clarify some stuff a little later, but Ive got a 6 year old kid going stir crazy waiting on me to be done with this! I wanted to go ahead and get something up though to get the conversation started! I will also post some links to some information later on.
In the meantime, you can Odin back to ICS build UVALJ4, and then flash your roms from there...yes even the JB ones! I hate saying that after suggesting to Odin flash the JB update, but if you have anything not working because of this, it may be your best option temporarily.
Otherwise, delete SysScope from /system/app! And keep Triangle Away handy!
I will continue doing a lot of testing and trying to investigate this problem. But I do appreciate any help that you guys can give!
Hopefully, with a little luck we can figure this out! :highfive:
I think that pretty much covers it...
I know that if you triangle away, and reboot to download mode, the counter's zero... if you boot into recovery and then boot into download mode the counter's still zero...
It gets triggered when you boot into the actual rom... I wonder if you odin to JB... then actually flash down to an ICS rom, does the counter get reset on boot?
scifan said:
I think that pretty much covers it...
I know that if you triangle away, and reboot to download mode, the counter's zero... if you boot into recovery and then boot into download mode the counter's still zero...
It gets triggered when you boot into the actual rom... I wonder if you odin to JB... then actually flash down to an ICS rom, does the counter get reset on boot?
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That's SysScope running after booting up. Flashing an ics rom over a fully updated JB will most likely also trip the counter due to the 2nd part of the device check which runs during boot. Worth trying though.
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Also need to find out if its the deodexing that triggers it, or something like busybox.
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Good info. And nice write up so your saying if we odin root66 ics we are ok to say flash gs3r7.zip to jb and the new custom rom detection wont be present?
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There's also a manual way I used to reset, back when my touchscreen died (and therefore could not even use TriangleAway) that we should 'throw into the mix' and test against JB...lemme see if I can dig up that thread...
Okay, here was the progenitor post, that may give clues if the old (ICS) way no longer works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28953690&postcount=67
and the resultant manual method, which I verified worked on TMO (ICS):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781471
1Shotwonder said:
Good info. And nice write up so your saying if we odin root66 ics we are ok to say flash gs3r7.zip to jb and the new custom rom detection wont be present?
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Thanks!
Yes that is correct. I cannot guarantee you wont have any other bugs. Doing it this way you are essentially running half ics half jb. If you have no need of samsung services like media hub or all share cast, id go full jb. Otherwise id go with the ics UVALJ4 firmware and a jb rom.
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There's also a manual way I used to reset, back when my touchscreen died (and therefore could not even use TriangleAway) that we should 'throw into the mix' and test against JB...lemme see if I can dig up that thread...
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That would be great! Thanks!
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Good job Doc... :thumbup::thumbup::thumbup:
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Doc, I'd be more than happy to help out with this. Just shoot me a PM about where you are heading and I can see what I can do. I'm not adverse to getting in deep, so that is a non-issue.
My initial thoughts are to take a pretty simple approach and, for lack of a better few words, do a side-by-side of the new JB and the recent leaks and see what is different. Obviously it is a bit harder than than but we could breakdown the /system/apps, then move on the each partition scheme and see what the differences are and why they are different. Then start crossing off things like apps, 2boot check, something buried in on of the other partitions, ....
Really Samsung? God this crap is really starting to piss me off. Love how manufacturers don't want be enjoying my device.
On a more positive note, can't Samsung deny claims for just the CPU?
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only thing that bothers me is the avengers movie not playing in any of the players on the GS3R7 rom. ( I have tried to reset the counter and still does not play the movie... any ideas? It does work on stock jb root66 though). Other than that I dont use any other samsung apps. The other issue I have come across is with Root Explorer when trying to modify the build.prop for GW I can edit the build.prop but it will not save the changes I believe this to be an issue with the sdcard now being sdcard0 but I am not 100% any one have a way around this or know the fix?
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There's also a manual way I used to reset, back when my touchscreen died (and therefore could not even use TriangleAway) that we should 'throw into the mix' and test against JB...lemme see if I can dig up that thread...
Okay, here was the progenitor post, that may give clues if the old (ICS) way no longer works:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=28953690&postcount=67
and the resultant manual method, which I verified worked on TMO (ICS):
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1781471
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Thanks for looking those back up. Ill be checking them out later on today.
Woodrube said:
Doc, I'd be more than happy to help out with this. Just shoot me a PM about where you are heading and I can see what I can do. I'm not adverse to getting in deep, so that is a non-issue.
My initial thoughts are to take a pretty simple approach and, for lack of a better few words, do a side-by-side of the new JB and the recent leaks and see what is different. Obviously it is a bit harder than than but we could breakdown the /system/apps, then move on the each partition scheme and see what the differences are and why they are different. Then start crossing off things like apps, 2boot check, something buried in on of the other partitions, ....
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sounds good man! Kinda have a feeling ill be needing help on this one! Ill shoot you a pm later on. Gotta get going for now, but wanted to respond real quick.
1Shotwonder said:
only thing that bothers me is the avengers movie not playing in any of the players on the GS3R7 rom. ( I have tried to reset the counter and still does not play the movie... any ideas? It does work on stock jb root66 though). Other than that I dont use any other samsung apps. The other issue I have come across is with Root Explorer when trying to modify the build.prop for GW I can edit the build.prop but it will not save the changes I believe this to be an issue with the sdcard now being sdcard0 but I am not 100% any one have a way around this or know the fix?
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Its another thing I've got to figure out. If its just breaking Samsung related/downloaded stuff, or is it screwing with DRM altogether.
As to your other issue, wallets included with jb now so I assumed it wouldn't require a 'fix'. But it sounds more like a superuser problem with root explorer. Download chainfires cwm supersu from his thread and flash it. See if that helps. Not going to be related to this stuff though.
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Does reverting back to ics roll back the flash counter? I am really liking JB TW maybe time for a change lol
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Unfortunately I doesn't work that way. Would be sweet if it did, then all we'd have to do is roll back and we'd be good. Plus we could figure out the trigger and remedy it.
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Does reverting back to ics roll back the flash counter? I am really liking JB TW maybe time for a change lol
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If I'm not mistaken, you should be able to revert to ICS then use triangleaway and your counter will stay at 0.
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Unfortunately I doesn't work that way. Would be sweet if it did, then all we'd have to do is roll back and we'd be good. Plus we could figure out the trigger and remedy it.
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Triangle away, boot to recovery, then flash ICS on your phone...
Well my counter is stuck at 1 lol
What exactly trips the counter? I've seen multiple answers for the question but I figured ide ask here since there are so many knowledgeable people here
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So ive been reading this and from what i can gather, it seems that samsung (or T-Mobile) placed a new apk file into the system directory (or maybe a lib file?) and that if you root your device, every time you reboot your phone, it will +1 to the flash counter?
Has anyone asked any ATT, Sprint or Verizon users if their flash counter goes up with root after each reboot as well? If it doesnt, we could probably do a system file comparison between the two to isolate the file(s) which are causing the incremental flash counter at boot.
That's what I was saying earlier about comparing official and leak and seeing the differences. Sprint is the only one that has had official so not sure if that would work for us. Think we need to differentiate between Samsung and TMo and see where the "fault" lies.
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That's what I was saying earlier about comparing official and leak and seeing the differences. Sprint is the only one that has had official so not sure if that would work for us. Think we need to differentiate between Samsung and TMo and see where the "fault" lies.
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That sounds like a good idea. I'll download one of the leaks and see if anything is obvious. It may also be a new line of code inside an apk or lib file as well. Making things a bit more difficult. As im comparing them i will check the size of each APK as well as if new code is added to them it should increase the size of the compiled apk. And i have my computer set up to show individual bytes of data.
Hi guys, I'm writing in desperate need of help.
I've had this GNex for a little less than 2 years and it always worked great until January when I started to have a lot of problems and bringing it to the technical center at the end of March I found out it had major hardware problems, but luckly I still had the warranty back then.
Now, since more or less 3 weeks, it started out of the blue to have great slowing down problems: apps take a lot to open and are often unresponsive and when I tap the power button it takes up to 5 seconds to start the screen.
I don't have a lor of apps, but uninstalling some of them it seemed like it's a little faster.
BTW, if it matters, I've never flashed alternative ROMs, I've always been on stock, and now it's not even rooted.
Is there something that I can do without factory resetting?
I'd prefer to keep it as the last possible option, 'cause I've not much time in this period and it would be a mess having to install again all the apps and stuff.
Thanks
I've heard that our GNEX makes problems with less than 3 GB of free space . Look how much memory are still available on SD card.
Sorry for my English.
Having almost 8gb free I doubt this is the problem
sciacallo010 said:
Having almost 8gb free I doubt this is the problem
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whats installed? have you updated/installed anything recently? do you have social media apps running all the time? have you cleared caches from apps/recovery? check your memory usage. use an app like Smart Booster to clean up the RAM.
there are also SO many advantages to at LEAST rooting the device.
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whats installed? have you updated/installed anything recently? do you have social media apps running all the time? have you cleared caches from apps/recovery? check your memory usage. use an app like Smart Booster to clean up the RAM.
there are also SO many advantages to at LEAST rooting the device.
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As soon as I'll have some time, hopefully this afternoon, I'll check all those things, thanks.
For the rooting thing I didn't do it just because I still haven't had time, I plan to do it in the future.
Talking about advantages are you talking in general or also about this specific issue?
sciacallo010 said:
As soon as I'll have some time, hopefully this afternoon, I'll check all those things, thanks.
For the rooting thing I didn't do it just because I still haven't had time, I plan to do it in the future.
Talking about advantages are you talking in general or also about this specific issue?
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well aside from the obvious (flashing/backups/unlocking) there are loads of useful apps in the Play Store that require root to help optimize the Android system. My favorites are Root Uninstaller and Disable Service. now, i know what im doing with these apps so they suit my needs pretty well and i havent broken anything (yet) but they are quite self explanitory. they both do pretty much the same thing, but on a different scale.
Root Uninstaller does just that...it allows you to uninstall ANYTHING from your device, including system apps that you normally wouldnt be able to. it also allows you to freeze apps or convert user apps (apps YOU installed) to system apps (this is very situational). it also reads your sdcard (internal in the case of the GNex) and finds apk's and can install them as well.
Disable Service is pretty much an advanced version of Root Uninstaller. it allows you to freeze/uninstall apps with the added ability to freeze any PROCESS that an app might run. for example, you could completely disable Bluetooth functionality (meaning any time you try to turn it on it just wont) or you can disable just Bluetooth file transfer. its really handy for showing what processes are running in the background and how many of them are from one app/how many that app can run. so, say you dont use an app feature but you still the app. fine, disable just that feature. its not TOO terribly complicated to understand as long as you know what does what, but hopefully i described it well enough.
basically what im getting at is these apps can free up so much memory/RAM by disabling/uninstalling apps or processes that run in the background when you just dont want them to with the ability to unlock them when you do.
then there is Titanium Backup. if you dont know what this app is, or never heard of it, you must live under some damn large rocks lol
lastly, using the Galaxy Nexus Toolkit you can root your phone in quite literally 30 seconds...just sayin >_<
dragonhart6505 said:
lastly, using the Galaxy Nexus Toolkit you can root your phone in quite literally 30 seconds...just sayin >_<
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Yeah, I well know that, before I had to bring it to the technical service it was rooted.
Thanks for the suggestions, while I know very well Titanium (it saved mt life more than once), I've never heard of the other apps you mentioned, so I'll try them.
I just runned Smart Booster and I'm totally amazed, the phone is way smoother, I hope it'll last.
I think that now I'll root time, I just have one last question: if I well remember to root I need to have the phone unlocked (the tech service locked it again), will it wipe it?
sciacallo010 said:
I just runned Smart Booster and I'm totally amazed, the phone is way smoother, I hope it'll last.
I think that now I'll root time, I just have one last question: if I well remember to root I need to have the phone unlocked (the tech service locked it again), will it wipe it?
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Glad it worked for ya ^_^
No it shouldn't wipe your phone, also unlocking the bootloader isn't required for root
Great, can you link me a guide to root it without unlocking? The nexus toolkit wants me to unlock before rooting, so I have to go for another way...
sciacallo010 said:
Great, can you link me a guide to root it without unlocking? The nexus toolkit wants me to unlock before rooting, so I have to go for another way...
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What Android version are you on?
4.3
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4.3
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Ah, OK. There ISNT a method of rooting without unlocking the bootloader on 4.3/4.4 and sadly it will reset the phone, but it will not wipe the SD data
Lol, that's ok, I just need to wait when I'll have some time to backup some things and do the whole thing, thank you dragonhart you've been very helpful
sciacallo010 said:
Lol, that's ok, I just need to wait when I'll have some time to backup some things and do the whole thing, thank you dragonhart you've been very helpful
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Hey no problem!
I been fixing/flashing/porting this thing for about a year. I've got so many phones in my office (including S5/One M8/iphones) this still the one I pick up and play with as my DD. I can understand why you would want it to run at its top performance!
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Lol, that's ok, I just need to wait when I'll have some time to backup some things and do the whole thing, thank you dragonhart you've been very helpful
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Unlocking the bootloader will wipe everything on the phone. Use helium to backup apps and then backup everything to your computer.
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mrgnex said:
Unlocking the bootloader will wipe everything on the phone. Use helium to backup apps and then backup everything to your computer.
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Yes unlocking bootloader to root has always been the only way for Nexus devices and it will definitely wipe everything!