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[Q] Which Recovery is better??

I'm new to the EVO, but I have had a hero in the past and I always used "Amon RA recovery" but now with the EVO, which is best or better to use?
1. RA-evo-v1.7.0.1
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=705026
2. ClockworkMod recovery
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=702214

I don't think one is better than the other. Clockwork works with rom manager app, that is the only perk I see.

This belongs in Q&A.
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Using RA here... havent had a single issue with it.

This should be in Q & A....
However, Clockwork has known issues properly wiping dalvik cache.
On the other hand, Clockwork will flash unsigned zips, AmonRa won't.
Take you pick, I prefer AmonRa.

kyleblakepeters said:
This belongs in Q&A.
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The sad thing is that the OP even KNEW this; hence the preceding [Q]
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Thank you, thats I all I need to know, I knew with the hero there was some issues with clock work and i know some perks are better but I never had a prob with Amon Ra on my hero, so thanks agaain im just going to use it on my EVO

BAttitude7689 said:
Thank you, thats I all I need to know, I knew with the hero there was some issues with clock work and i know some perks are better but I never had a prob with Amon Ra on my hero, so thanks agaain im just going to use it on my EVO
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What drove you to post in Development versus the section specifically designated for Question and Answers?

The issues with clockwork have been fixed for a while now. It wipes everything just fine.

SteelH said:
This should be in Q & A....
However, Clockwork has known issues properly wiping dalvik cache.
On the other hand, Clockwork will flash unsigned zips, AmonRa won't.
Take you pick, I prefer AmonRa.
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Same here. I can never get Clockwork to properly wipe dalvik cache.

clamknuckle said:
The issues with clockwork have been fixed for a while now. It wipes everything just fine.
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+1, with rom manager and unsigned zip support, no reason to choose Amon Ra as of now.

jerryparid said:
+1, with rom manager and unsigned zip support, no reason to choose Amon Ra as of now.
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It is still having issues for people trying to update to Froyo releases, it isn't wiping dalvik right. Maybe they have an older version of Clockwork and that's the problem.
But seriously, if someone making an update zip can't sign it, I wouldn't trust their skills anyhow. Signing a zip is simple.

I haven't been able to flash any dc or froyo tons via clockwork.
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I use Clockwork, I've flashed half a dozen ROMs including CM6, no problems whatsoever. I do my flash work in recovery boot, not ROM Manager, maybe that makes a difference. Why work on a car with the engine running if you don't have to?

Clockwork or Armon?

I'm curious, who uses which and why?
*Amon. Oops

I personally use cw...but many people on this forum swear by amon bc they say it is more reliable... some roms require you to use amon to flash. ...I personally have never had issues flashing with cw...
Bottom line is that we have two good choices if you are a flashaholic
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Amon-ra is my preference 0 errors. Clockwork is nice also, has its own app but people have reported a couple of flashing errors. Both are awesome all I can say is try out both see which one you like better.
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I was kind of tempted with the features and GUI of Clockwork, but after reading a bit on here, it seems like Amon Ra is the reliable way to go. I'm new to Evo rooting and roms, but when I had my Nexus One, AR was absolutely the way to go. Rock freakin' solid.

Currently if you have a evo with hboot 2.02 or 2.10 the only recovery u can use after rooting is amon ra...just a fyi
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Amon by far.

Amon_RA, since CWM doesn't work properly on newer hboots, and because CWM does not properly wipe partitions when you tell it to. Simple as that.

drmacinyasha said:
Amon_RA, since CWM doesn't work properly on newer hboots, and because CWM does not properly wipe partitions when you tell it to. Simple as that.
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Im currently using CW...This is why I definitely want to use Ra... however when I flash it using rom manager,and then try any functions in Ra recovery is says "no zip files installed ".. any possible solutions??

I use Amon_ra because it backs up the wimax rsa keys. That's the only advantage I saw
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nextking said:
Im currently using CW...This is why I definitely want to use Ra... however when I flash it using rom manager,and then try any functions in Ra recovery is says "no zip files installed ".. any possible solutions??
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The solution is to place your flashable .zip files to the base sdcard directory and not within a subfolder.

nextking said:
Im currently using CW...This is why I definitely want to use Ra... however when I flash it using rom manager,and then try any functions in Ra recovery is says "no zip files installed ".. any possible solutions??
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Like the person above said, Amon_RA 1.8.0 can only use ZIP files which are on the root of your SD card, not in a sub-folder. Version 2.0 (which Amon_RA has suggested will be coming soon-ish) will have folder navigation.

Amon Ra currently but I have used both. The reasons are clear it backs the RSA keys, and does clear when wiping.
Btw try #grep RSA /sdcard/nandroid/HT065HL*/(name of nandroid file)/wimax.img
You'll see where your RSA keys are stored in your nandroid.

I go back and forth.... I use amon ra for nandroid backups and serious flashes like radio pri nv all that jazz. I like clockwork for ease sometimes. I don't use app2sd. I use titanium to wipe davlik and repeat in either cw or amon ra just to be sure... They both have their good points. and bad
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[Q] AMON RA or Clockwork which is better and why?

So im runnin Clockwork custom recovery on my EVO and I hav read on several threads that using Amon RA is better. I would like to kno the reasons why and if I decide to change how would I go bout it? Please include any links in getting the Amon RA recovery and or procedures please...thanks!

Open Rom Manager and scroll down to select "Flash Alternate Recovery" clcik RA and thats it. Give it a whirl, you dont like it flash back to clockwork via Rom Manager (at top).
personally I use clockwork, only because it works with rom manager.....

I use amon ra, I had it on my moto cliq, then I had to use clockwork on my vibrant, now amon ra on my evo. I like it better. Its probably just personal preference but I have read that clockwork doesnt always do a good nandroid backup/restore, I never tried it though so im not certain. Like to guy above said, its real easy to switch back and forth though

Amon is easier to read, and its prettier.
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Haven't used clock in a while but from what I remember it was more steps to get to certain things and the entire UI was a bit confusing to a new person. Now this is speaking from my hero days, lol so things may have changed!
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It's preference, the general consensus that's misunderstood is that ra is better. This for me is only because my dev has nothing to do with clockwork therefore its rendered useless for me.besides updating ra recovery...
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Personally, i have and do use both, and neither is better, as they do the same thing. The 1 advantage to amon_ra is that you can select the elements of your backup, so they can be smaller, where as clockwork backs up everything by default.

cordell12 said:
personally I use clockwork, only because it works with rom manager.....
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same here..................

zamboniman87 said:
same here..................
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You can still download rom from it [if on premium version], flash alternate recovery, and boot into recovery if on amon_ra; the only thing you can't do it automatically backup the rom from there.

Clockwork to RA

I've been using clockwork ever since I rooted my phone back in september, I want to switch to RA because I like it more from what I've read, but if I switch to RA, can I still use the backups I've made with clockwork
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Hardcor__ said:
I've been using clockwork ever since I rooted my phone back in september, I want to switch to RA because I like it more from what I've read, but if I switch to RA, can I still use the backups I've made with clockwork
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belongs in Q and A section, anyway, no you cant

Hardcor__ said:
I've been using clockwork ever since I rooted my phone back in september, I want to switch to RA because I like it more from what I've read, but if I switch to RA, can I still use the backups I've made with clockwork
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If I'm not mistaken, You should be able to with amon RA v2.3. Still, I'm sure you're going to make a backup as soon as you start using amon RA, right?...Hint Hint....

dougjamal said:
If I'm not mistaken, You should be able to with amon RA v2.3. Still, I'm sure you're going to make a backup as soon as you start using amon RA, right?...Hint Hint....
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As far as I know, you can't. But in theory he could try, but I personally wouldn't recommend it, and yes, do make a backup as soon as you switch.

I need the pc36img.zip with the latest clockwork. Does anyone have it??
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caguirr4 said:
I need the pc36img.zip with the latest clockwork. Does anyone have it??
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I do, but you can download rom manager and flash the latest version of it from there. let me know if you still need it.

[Q] Best Recovery

I've just always used ClockworkMod (and never had any problems), but always see people post that AmonRA is superior, but I haven't seen why? Is there really a big advantage of one over the other? Thanks!

The only time you would ever see an issue is when you have a problem. AmonRA eliminates ever having a recovery issue. Amon also has a couple more features that come in handy.
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Neither is perfect, but Amon Ra tends to have less problems. That's not saying that no one has ever seen an issue with Amon Ra, but it's less likely. Amon Ra supports both edify and amend scripts where CWM only supports edify. I prefer the way Amon Ra is organized - the menus make more sense to me. I haven't used ClockworkMod since I first rooted my phone almost a year ago, so I can't tell you the difference in options. Back then, Amon Ra had more options, but I haven't seen the updates to ClockworkMod. Clockwork has been known to have some problems wiping properly as well.
If you're comfortable with CWM and have not had any problems, I see no reason to switch. I believe that Amon Ra is better, but that doesn't mean that I believe that everyone should use it. If you do have a problem, you'll know what to switch to. Or you can go ahead and switch now and see if you like it better.
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I was never able to successfully update my radio, wimax, etc when I used cw. However, that was back in the 3.x days and I haven't messed with the latest version. Like the saying goes, "if it ain't broke, don't fix it." Well the version of cwm was broke at that time, therefore I switched to Amon-ra. I haven't had any complaints since. If you do switch, you'll need to make a new backup since the recoveries aren't compatible with each other. Good luck.
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amon ra doesn't have advance restore data so thats a drawback..

FWIW, I've been using amonRa 1.80 since July '10, and I have never had a recovery problem or bad flash or bad wipe. And it flashes anything I throw at it.
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I've always used clockwork no matter wat phone I was using.. not sure about a.r. but i say if it aint broke don't fix it...
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I use amonra solely bc it has the wimax backup feature. Not sure if cwm has that but I got burned before not using amonra when I decided to fiddle with radio updates and lost 4g. Sorry if I went off topic but I vowed to myself to always use amonra and not kick myself in the ass again
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I used to use clockworkmod until i read the "how to root for dummy's" thread and switched to amon ra. I have no idea why, i just did.
I did notice, however, that when I was using clockworkmod I would have to reflash a certain rom 2-3 times to stop it from berserking. Maybe it didn't wipe my data correctly? Who knows. But after switching to amon ra, I didn't have to relfash a rom. That scenario could have been caused by a completely different reason but I'm sticking with it.

try teamwin recovery