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Clockwork or Armon?

I'm curious, who uses which and why?
*Amon. Oops

I personally use cw...but many people on this forum swear by amon bc they say it is more reliable... some roms require you to use amon to flash. ...I personally have never had issues flashing with cw...
Bottom line is that we have two good choices if you are a flashaholic
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Amon-ra is my preference 0 errors. Clockwork is nice also, has its own app but people have reported a couple of flashing errors. Both are awesome all I can say is try out both see which one you like better.
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I was kind of tempted with the features and GUI of Clockwork, but after reading a bit on here, it seems like Amon Ra is the reliable way to go. I'm new to Evo rooting and roms, but when I had my Nexus One, AR was absolutely the way to go. Rock freakin' solid.

Currently if you have a evo with hboot 2.02 or 2.10 the only recovery u can use after rooting is amon ra...just a fyi
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Amon by far.

Amon_RA, since CWM doesn't work properly on newer hboots, and because CWM does not properly wipe partitions when you tell it to. Simple as that.

drmacinyasha said:
Amon_RA, since CWM doesn't work properly on newer hboots, and because CWM does not properly wipe partitions when you tell it to. Simple as that.
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Im currently using CW...This is why I definitely want to use Ra... however when I flash it using rom manager,and then try any functions in Ra recovery is says "no zip files installed ".. any possible solutions??

I use Amon_ra because it backs up the wimax rsa keys. That's the only advantage I saw
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nextking said:
Im currently using CW...This is why I definitely want to use Ra... however when I flash it using rom manager,and then try any functions in Ra recovery is says "no zip files installed ".. any possible solutions??
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The solution is to place your flashable .zip files to the base sdcard directory and not within a subfolder.

nextking said:
Im currently using CW...This is why I definitely want to use Ra... however when I flash it using rom manager,and then try any functions in Ra recovery is says "no zip files installed ".. any possible solutions??
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Like the person above said, Amon_RA 1.8.0 can only use ZIP files which are on the root of your SD card, not in a sub-folder. Version 2.0 (which Amon_RA has suggested will be coming soon-ish) will have folder navigation.

Amon Ra currently but I have used both. The reasons are clear it backs the RSA keys, and does clear when wiping.
Btw try #grep RSA /sdcard/nandroid/HT065HL*/(name of nandroid file)/wimax.img
You'll see where your RSA keys are stored in your nandroid.

I go back and forth.... I use amon ra for nandroid backups and serious flashes like radio pri nv all that jazz. I like clockwork for ease sometimes. I don't use app2sd. I use titanium to wipe davlik and repeat in either cw or amon ra just to be sure... They both have their good points. and bad
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[Q] AMON RA or Clockwork which is better and why?

So im runnin Clockwork custom recovery on my EVO and I hav read on several threads that using Amon RA is better. I would like to kno the reasons why and if I decide to change how would I go bout it? Please include any links in getting the Amon RA recovery and or procedures please...thanks!

Open Rom Manager and scroll down to select "Flash Alternate Recovery" clcik RA and thats it. Give it a whirl, you dont like it flash back to clockwork via Rom Manager (at top).
personally I use clockwork, only because it works with rom manager.....

I use amon ra, I had it on my moto cliq, then I had to use clockwork on my vibrant, now amon ra on my evo. I like it better. Its probably just personal preference but I have read that clockwork doesnt always do a good nandroid backup/restore, I never tried it though so im not certain. Like to guy above said, its real easy to switch back and forth though

Amon is easier to read, and its prettier.
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Haven't used clock in a while but from what I remember it was more steps to get to certain things and the entire UI was a bit confusing to a new person. Now this is speaking from my hero days, lol so things may have changed!
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It's preference, the general consensus that's misunderstood is that ra is better. This for me is only because my dev has nothing to do with clockwork therefore its rendered useless for me.besides updating ra recovery...
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Personally, i have and do use both, and neither is better, as they do the same thing. The 1 advantage to amon_ra is that you can select the elements of your backup, so they can be smaller, where as clockwork backs up everything by default.

cordell12 said:
personally I use clockwork, only because it works with rom manager.....
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same here..................

zamboniman87 said:
same here..................
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You can still download rom from it [if on premium version], flash alternate recovery, and boot into recovery if on amon_ra; the only thing you can't do it automatically backup the rom from there.

[Q] does switching recoveries cause any loss?

if i switch from clockwork to amon_ra via ROM manager, will I lose any of my information on my phone?

Nope
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Only the ability to restore your Clockwork nandroid backups with Amon Ra, and the ability to use the flashing functions of Rom Manager. Nothing on your rom will be changed.
Once you switch, go ahead and make a backup with Amon Ra. Leave the original three options checked and include wimax as well.
If you don't know how to flash manually there are tons of guides, and it's something you'd definitely benefit from learning.
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The only thing u need to lose is rom manager
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plainjane said:
Only the ability to restore your Clockwork nandroid backups with Amon Ra, and the ability to use the flashing functions of Rom Manager. Nothing on your rom will be changed.
Once you switch, go ahead and make a backup with Amon Ra. Leave the original three options checked and include wimax as well.
If you don't know how to flash manually there are tons of guides, and it's something you'd definitely benefit from learning.
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+1
I should also add that I had success flashing my radios and upgrading my WIMAX using Amon-RA
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Newest CWM

Quick question...How do I know if I'm on the newest CWM on my Evo...I just wanna make sure before I flash AOKP on my moms phone aheh. if I brick it I won't know how to explain to her what happened. So let's do this in one shot

I'd switch to amon RA its better for the evo
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wizky911 said:
Quick question...How do I know if I'm on the newest CWM on my Evo...I just wanna make sure before I flash AOKP on my moms phone aheh. if I brick it I won't know how to explain to her what happened. So let's do this in one shot
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just boot into recovery and the version number should be at the bottom the latest version is 5.0.2.2 for the regular and for the touch version it is 5.8.0.1 . I really recommend switching from clockworkmod to Amon Ra recovery. Clockworkmod isnt the greatest recovery for the evo. It might be for other phones but mostly all evo users use Amon ra recovery. Clockworkmod is known to not wipe correctly on the evo and can lead to problems. Heres a link to amon ra style (better then original amon ra) which i personally use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339654 the latest version

-EViL-KoNCEPTz- said:
I'd switch to amon RA its better for the evo
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I'm using amonra and my volume keys aren't looking so good.
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evo4gnoob said:
just boot into recovery and the version number should be at the bottom the latest version is 5.0.2.2 for the regular and for the touch version it is 5.8.0.1 . I really recommend switching from clockworkmod to Amon Ra recovery. Clockworkmod isnt the greatest recovery for the evo. It might be for other phones but mostly all evo users use Amon ra recovery. Clockworkmod is known to not wipe correctly on the evo and can lead to problems. Heres a link to amon ra style (better then original amon ra) which i personally use http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1339654 the latest version
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Alright do I just flash Amon Ra in my custom recovery?

No install it via the boot loader.
Get away from cwm like the plague
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wizky911 said:
Alright do I just flash Amon Ra in my custom recovery?
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you can use adb to flash it

adb will work, and is not difficult, but it is much easier to run the attached PC36IMG file from your SD card through the bootloader.

evo4gnoob said:
you can use adb to flash it
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so use terminal emulator?

[Q] Nandroid Restores fail using Amon Ra

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HBOOT-6.16.1002
Radio-2.15.00.11.19
Amon Ra Build: RA-supersonic-v3.06-gnm
Not sure if I'm just not doing a correct nand backup or what, just started using Amon Ra. Everytime I restore I just go into a splash screen loop. Can't find a specific thread that answers this problem. I can just reflash original rom zip, but future nand restores would be nice to rely on. Any suggestions?
You can tell from my sig what I'm running. I have not flashed over any mods of any sort, or changed any system libs or binaries, unless implementing v6 supercharger counts as that.

You are better off upgrading to smelkus 4.3 its a more efficient ra recovery.
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death-by-soap said:
You are better off upgrading to smelkus 4.3 its a more efficient ra recovery.
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I never hear the end of this, so I'm about to push the f-it button and switch over.
Only thing that prevents me from doing so is my curiosity of the Synergy rom, really wanna try that baby.
Have read the best way to flash it is through Amon Ra, what do you think?
Ah, nevermind. It's saying Amon Ra is required to flash the God Mode, which I'm not about to do. The speed looks enticing, but I really just want a stable ROM that I can theme.

Does it specifically sway you can't use Smelkus to flash it? Because Smelkus is based on Amon Ra.
BTW, that ROM is pretty old, man.

HipKat said:
Does it specifically sway you can't use Smelkus to flash it? Because Smelkus is based on Amon Ra.
BTW, that ROM is pretty old, man.
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My feelings exactly, it just got bumped and I noticed it. Now looking instead at Legendary Infamous... I have Sense fever, I know.
Switching over to Smelkus now.

CyanJustice said:
My feelings exactly, it just got bumped and I noticed it. Now looking instead at Legendary Infamous... I have Sense fever, I know.
Switching over to Smelkus now.
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Thata boy. You won't be disappointed.
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Certainly am not. Just flashed Infamous and then successfully restored DigitalKarma. Happy day!
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