APQ8064 1.5 - 1.7 GHz Quad Krait Adreno 320 QXGA 1080p No Modem 20 MP
gpsOneGen 8A with
GLONASS
Hexagon QDSP6
500MHz
USB 2.0 High Speed OTG
(480Mbps)
802.11a/b/g/n*
BT 3.x + HS
BT 4.0/LE FM Rx/Tx*
28nm
that is our soc.
what i need are the following answers.
---How many gpus do we have so i can set the number of gpus in the kernel? The current value is limited at 16.
---Specs on the display. (factory specs)
---Does the s4 support multi-core scheduler's? (awesome if it did)
---Also I need someone to find the various address lines in menuconfig for all variants including the n4. We might be able to make a universal kernel using that information.
---Are we using the first or second dsp6 version.
These questions directly effect the kernel
What addresses do you want? We all including mako use the same kernel address, Ramdisk varies, modem I don't remember on the top of my head. I have sbl3 and lk at home. But I don't think you care about those (for the kernel).
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When you say how many gpus do we have do you mean how many cores does the gpu have
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---Specs on the display. (factory specs)
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I hope this helps. If it doesn't let me know and I'll see what I can do
Resolution: 768x1280
Refresh Rate: 60.0
X factor for DPI: 2.0
Density: 320 dpi
Pixel/Inch X: 319.79016 dpi
Pixel/Inch Y: 318.7451 dpi
This might help
http://www.reviewresults.in/reviewresults/post/2012/09/29/Mali-400-vs-Adreno-320-GPU.aspx
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This might help
http://www.reviewresults.in/reviewresults/post/2012/09/29/Mali-400-vs-Adreno-320-GPU.aspx
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So it is a quad core GPU then.
That more seems like its a quad core soc's GPU. 4 cores doesn't seem right
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That more seems like its a quad core soc's GPU. 4 cores doesn't seem right
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Yea, especially with a 64 core gpu showing up at CES for the tegra 4.
I bet it is 16, maybe more.
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Yea, especially with a 64 core gpu showing up at CES for the tegra 4.
I bet it is 16, maybe more.
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Well 16 seems low, it could be 16 but it would be nice if it was more and the kernel is holding back. That does happen
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Well, my pals iPhone 5 smoked this phone in the gpu. I read an article that the new tegra is 64 core and it was a big deal. The tegra 3 was 12 from what I have found but a lot are only 4. I guess it is more the motion in the ocean than the size.
If I find out more I will let you know.
I found this too. http://www.reviewresults.in/reviewresults/post/2012/09/29/Tegra-3-vs-Adreno-320.aspx
It shows the Tegra 3 with 12 which I know is correct.
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It's funny how everyone puts these phones against the iphone and I pad without realizing how much of a beast this gpu is. Apple has been forced to use 3 sgs543 gpus each with 4 sub cores on the iphone 5 to get the performance that this one gpu gets with four sub cores. Just like when nvidia says their gpu has 64 cores it's 64 sub cores on one gpu.
Part of the reason that iproducts benchmark so well is due to less products to support and common socs throughout. That way, they can easily optimize the os for each product.
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Related
http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Dream
" CPU: The MSM7201A is an ARM-based, dual-core [22] CPU/GPU from Qualcomm and contains many built-in features, including 3G and a GPU capable of up to 4 million triangles/sec. It has hardware acceleration for Java, [23] but this does not accelerate execution of Android applications, as they are targeted to the Dalvik VM, not the Java VM"
http://mobile.arm.com/markets/mobile/t-mobile-g1.php?setcookie=mobile
"Silicon Supplier: Qualcomm MSM7201A™ SoC (528 MHz Dual core Mobile Station Modem™)"
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This isnt the G1 forum...
I know. Whats the problem ?
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This isnt the G1 forum...
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It did? Lol that phone never ceases to amaze me.
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I'm pretty sure it's just saying that it had both a single core CPU and a GPU. By that logic, the Galaxy Nexus would be a triple core phone...
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http://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/HTC_Dream
" CPU: The MSM7201A is an ARM-based, dual-core [22] CPU/GPU from Qualcomm and contains many built-in features, including 3G and a GPU capable of up to 4 million triangles/sec. It has hardware acceleration for Java, [23] but this does not accelerate execution of Android applications, as they are targeted to the Dalvik VM, not the Java VM"
http://mobile.arm.com/markets/mobile/t-mobile-g1.php?setcookie=mobile
"Silicon Supplier: Qualcomm MSM7201A™ SoC (528 MHz Dual core Mobile Station Modem™)"
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This is a Galaxy Nexus forum, not a G1 forum.
And its simply referring to 1 core CPU and 1 core GPU put together.
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the problem is that you spam with this useless info and in a inappropriate thread mate
haha i love your sig
good to know.. after 2 years Im using it.. but... yes.. dude, wrong section
@sert00 allora c'è qualche italiano qui
is this possible right now
Right now no, but possible. I see no reason why you would want to overclock it.
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Faux123 isn't far away from getting it working, follow him on twitter for updates.
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Why? Battery life under load isn't great, and the thing overheats as it is
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Why? Battery life under load isn't great, and the thing overheats as it is
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...because it would be awesome?
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i want high antutu benchmarks i dont care if it ovehreats im used to hot phones as it is from the hd2 to the sensation
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i want high antutu benchmarks i dont care if it ovehreats im used to hot phones as it is from the hd2 to the sensation
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Bench marks mean nothing in the real world, also when running 4 cores It's limited to 1.2 GHz, 2 cores 1.4 GHz and 1 core 1.5 GHz
Be a better idea to work out how to remove this limit.
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...because it would be awesome?
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Agreed. I am also waiting to over clock this thing.
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Bench marks mean nothing in the real world, also when running 4 cores It's limited to 1.2 GHz, 2 cores 1.4 GHz and 1 core 1.5 GHz
Be a better idea to work out how to remove this limit.
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That seems to be the T30 version of the Tegra 3. As far as I know, we are using the T33 revision of Tegra 3, and are able to hit 1.5GHz on all cores under load. Might be wrong, but that's what I've read, we're using a new revision of Tegra 3.
i think you would be better off overclocking the gpu since the four cpu`s will be enough to run any game for the foreseeable future. i remember seeing a post saying that the could run the gpu at 600mhz and score 80+fps in the opengl egypt 720p offscreen benchmark. also the asus transformer prime has overclock and at 1.7ghz(reported stable) will hit over 14000 in antutu taking into account the higher res screen.
Nothing new since May????
Its rumored that the S4 and N3 will have Exynos 5 Octa CPU, Mali-T658 (8-Core) GPU, 2GB of RAM . Is this harware good enough to run PS2 emulator and Xbox 1 emulator?
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What you have now is more than enough. Exynos four is plenty powerful
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Are there any PS2/XBox emulators
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If the s4 is coming out next month, then maybe they won't have the 8 core chip yet. To soon to make it to market
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An 8 core!? That freaking ridiculous. A battery life on the phone would last as long as me running... (I don't like running)
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An 8 core!? That freaking ridiculous. A battery life on the phone would last as long as me running... (I don't like running)
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That's what everyone said about a quad core. Yet here we are.
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big.LITTLE does not activate all eight cores at the same time towards a task.
You will either get quad-core Cortex-A15 performance (heavy loads) or quad-core Cortex-A7 performance (light loads).
Gaming system emulation is limited by the CPU, not the GPU. The Exynos 5 will be a step up but probably not enough.
Wont effect battery life as long as propper governors are set and the batter is atleast 2700 (I now thats smaller than ours but so will the entire sg4 compared to the gn2)... inter-processor fluidity, gui, screen size, android version, etc should better battery life as well
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Like I said. You do understand that these telephones pack enough processing power if not more than the original PS had. Probably. I haven't actually checked but I'm pretty sure Thad note 3 will handle emulating ten year old games....
The question that should be being asked is if someone can develop an emulator that isn't buggy as hell
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The entire purpose of the octa core is to improve battery. When the device doesn't need to run at high power the second 4 cores a low power arm 7 will take over. The are saying it will improve battery by 70%. I will have to see that to believe it but if they say 70% I bet we can count on gaining at least 40% which would be awesome.
sent via note 2 in boss mode @ quad core 2 ghz
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Not yet, but im hoping for development with the upcoming hardware from Samsung and LG
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I just can't wait for KLP. I was reading they are going to optimize it for quad core cpu's and will also do allot of battery optimization. This phone here, the Note 2 is a beast of a phone as it is. The battery life is great, the screen is amazing and I've been using the s-pen more and more and I like it much more then I thought I would.
Yeah the S4 will be nice but the Note 3, that will be amazing. Kinda like the s3 then the Note 2 comes out with better everything and a much better screen. I can't handle pen tile screens.
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Also, if you look at the USA s3, is dual core and it still packs more then enough power. That's why when KLP comes out and we get it rolled out to us. Our battery life will be even better then it is now since it will be quad core optimized.
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Gaming emulation still requires power since it's running on another Os. A reason you don't see xbox 360 or ps3 emulations atm.
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KLP on the note 2 will be amazing and ive been playing with the spen lately its fun never thought id use it but its pretty fun to use
It may be a noob question, but why does our device OC'd higher than other devices not outperform newer phones like the s4 or HTC One? Are there other factors that weigh in or is it Sammy doing something we can't undo?
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Different CPU architectures, and other parts so you cannot compare mhz vs mhz. Also depends on what you are testing exactly.
Outperformed by what comparison ???
Too many variables exist to compare anything. ..and benchmark scores do not count. ..
The best device is the one users enjoy the most. ...not the one that boasts about being "better" than it's rival competition. ..That is a marketing campaign. ..
The note 2 is not designed to be the main stream power phone. ..it is a unique niche device with nothing less than impressive specifications. ....and regardless of what the competition says, will run exceptionally well against any devices on the market who share the same production time frame, and similar hardware/software......g
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Outperformed by what comparison ???
Too many variables exist to compare anything. ..and benchmark scores do not count. ..
The best device is the one users enjoy the most. ...not the one that boasts about being "better" than it's rival competition. ..That is a marketing campaign. ..
The note 2 is not designed to be the main stream power phone. ..it is a unique niche device with nothing less than impressive specifications. ....and regardless of what the competition says, will run exceptionally well against any devices on the market who share the same production time frame, and similar hardware/software......g
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Note 2 is a power house its enjoyable. Any more power is just bragging right from here on out. For oc it has to do with heat dispensing, voltage the archatech the NM of the chip and of course software.
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It may be a noob question, but why does our device OC'd higher than other devices not outperform newer phones like the s4 or HTC One? Are there other factors that weigh in or is it Sammy doing something we can't undo?
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Just out of curiosity, by what measure is the S4 or HTC 1 outperforming the Note 2?
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Just out of curiosity, by what measure is the S4 or HTC 1 outperforming the Note 2?
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I know I'm going to get some heat for this, but quadrant scores are around 12750 whereas my note 2 has topped at around 8500...I'm not saying I can't do anything less on our device; I do enjoy having the highest performance of anything out there
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Your problem is that you're equating quadrant score with sheer performance. It's no like a dynometer that gives a accurate reading. Ie - if you took a brand new sports car and put it on a dyno it would spit out nearly identical hp and torque numbers test after test, but if you ran quadrant test after test you would get varying scores. I've had score differences of up to 400 points when I ran the test back to back. The same with antutu.
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Your problem is that you're equating quadrant score with sheer performance. It's no like a dynometer that gives a accurate reading. Ie - if you took a brand new sports car and put it on a dyno it would spit out nearly identical hp and torque numbers test after test, but if you ran quadrant test after test you would get varying scores. I've had score differences of up to 400 points when I ran the test back to back. The same with antutu.
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Haha, like I said, I knew I'd get get heat for that, and I realize benchmarks aren't the most accurate way of determining power and performance...but I do like the bragging rights of saying that mine is numerically higher. I know it's kind of wrong, but it's also fun to mess with the settings and find what combos get the best results which led me to this post. I was also more curious as to why even though our device clocked higher with otherwise similar specs still don't match up.
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There are too many variables in determining why your core running at 1.8 isn't outperforming another core running at 1.6.
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There are too many variables in determining why your core running at 1.8 isn't outperforming another core running at 1.6.
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I'm talking more about why our quad running at 2GHz is much lower than a quad running at 1.7 with completely different governers and other tweaks?
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You're asking the same question that I just answered. It doesn't matter the number of cores or the mH it's clocked at. There are too many variables to figure it out. Think about the different frameworks, the numerous system processes running, the apps installed, system apps, settings, tweaks... If you had identical devices running all the same stuff you would still get varying results.
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I'm talking more about why our quad running at 2GHz is much lower than a quad running at 1.7 with completely different governers and other tweaks?
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Its not so much the cpu that is the biggest change in quadrant its in the power of the gpu that the note 2 has a mali 400 while some models of the S4 have much more powerful gpu's
Does that even matter in Quadrant? If you have a device with vsync off then it will score much higher in GPU than the Note 2 with Vsync.
Also, if you are going to only focus on Benchmarks to compare, at least use a more decent test or various tests to get a broader perspective like 3DMark, Antutu and Vellamo.
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You're asking the same question that I just answered. It doesn't matter the number of cores or the mH it's clocked at. There are too many variables to figure it out. Think about the different frameworks, the numerous system processes running, the apps installed, system apps, settings, tweaks... If you had identical devices running all the same stuff you would still get varying results.
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But shouldn't they be in a similar range? Forgive me for the repetition, I just want to know a little more about the way this works.
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I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.
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I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.
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+1
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I think we have been pretty clear already so not sure what you are not understanding.
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I do understand now. I'm just being clear. My apologies.
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So as our chip is considered to be an underclocked s600 as opposed to a regular s4 pro, would be safer to overclock it?
By that I mean over clocking our chip to let's say to 1.7ghz is safer than clocking htc one, which if I remember correctly runs at 1.7 on stock, to 1.9ghz?
Or are the joints as "weak" as on regular s4 pro processor, hence it's called that?
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So as our chip is considered to be an underclocked s600 as opposed to a regular s4 pro, would be safer to overclock it?
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You want to do this because obviously the device is way too slow to be used properly?
Double post.
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No actually I'm running at stock speeds and will most likely continue to do so regardless. Just wondering how our chip is better than a regular s4 pro. I mean if it were identical to s600 other than the lower clock speed, wouldn't it just be named that?
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Its a lower bin chip, its not as high quality and they fill it wouldn't be able to run at S600 clocks , so they rebrand it as S4 Pro , so its cheaper to asus then a regular 1.7GHz chip ..