Is it safer to overclock our "underclocked s600"? - Nexus 7 (2013) Q&A

So as our chip is considered to be an underclocked s600 as opposed to a regular s4 pro, would be safer to overclock it?
By that I mean over clocking our chip to let's say to 1.7ghz is safer than clocking htc one, which if I remember correctly runs at 1.7 on stock, to 1.9ghz?
Or are the joints as "weak" as on regular s4 pro processor, hence it's called that?
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dud3me said:
So as our chip is considered to be an underclocked s600 as opposed to a regular s4 pro, would be safer to overclock it?
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You want to do this because obviously the device is way too slow to be used properly?

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dud3me said:
No actually I'm running at stock speeds and will most likely continue to do so regardless. Just wondering how our chip is better than a regular s4 pro. I mean if it were identical to s600 other than the lower clock speed, wouldn't it just be named that?
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Its a lower bin chip, its not as high quality and they fill it wouldn't be able to run at S600 clocks , so they rebrand it as S4 Pro , so its cheaper to asus then a regular 1.7GHz chip ..

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Sprint to get 1.5ghz dual core.

Are they just overclocking the Sprint version? http://www.technobuffalo.com/tag/galaxy-nexus/
i really hope they get a qualcomm version and just took a higher advertised clock speed over real life performance, i will never be using a snapdragon processor again, at least if their still using adreno
Its an ad, and its probably wrong.
Guess well find out soon enough. I won't be going back to Sprint till LTE is in my area.
I agree, I think its the ad that's wrong
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its all marketing to get customers back on thier junk network!
cordell507 said:
i really hope they get a qualcomm version and just took a higher advertised clock speed over real life performance, i will never be using a snapdragon processor again, at least if their still using adreno
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What do you have against adreno?
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I don't think their LTE is launching until Q2 and by that time it'd be rather foolish it buy it considering the SGS3 should be out by then and a new Nexus would probably be less than 6 months away.
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I wonder what they would call it ... Lol
Samsung Galaxy Nexus Epic Touch 4G LTE
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Our CPU is rated for 1.5 but Google decided to UV the clock for battery life. Different carriers pay for different options so its not surprising that sprint would try and be different. They have to because there network is like a big long turd that wraps around the toilet
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Does anyone have a guess on why they went with Texas instruments processor over samsungs exynos processor? Thanks in advance
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They used OMAP4460 in the VZW version as Exynos doesn't like LTE at all. That's why the US version of the SGS2 is Snapdragon instead of Exynos. As for the GSM version, I'm guessing because they couldn't be bothered using anything better.
Thanks bud! So our verizon version has a different and better chip set?
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kirdroid said:
I wonder what they would call it ... Lol
Samsung Galaxy Nexus Epic Touch 4G LTE
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No. Samsung Galaxy Nexus touch 4G LTE epic fail.
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mike216 said:
Thanks bud! So our verizon version has a different and better chip set?
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No? They all have the same chipset.
cordell507 said:
i really hope they get a qualcomm version and just took a higher advertised clock speed over real life performance, i will never be using a snapdragon processor again, at least if their still using adreno
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Whats wrong with Adreno, you do know that adreno 220 is faster than gpu used in GN right?
mike216 said:
Does anyone have a guess on why they went with Texas instruments processor over samsungs exynos processor? Thanks in advance
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Being a Nexus device, Google likes spreading the love. Nexus One had Snapdragon, Nexus S had Hummingbird, Xoom (not Nexus, but closely supported by Google) had Tegra, GNex has TI. Next up, who knows... But they certainly seem to like broadening the amount of chipsets they support more than they're focusing on raw performance.
Here sprint has some serious data issues. So bad tha AT&T is faster on edge much of the time. They could release a 2ghz version and i still wouldn't go back to them. I'm sure that it is likely worse now with the iphone.
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Our CPU is rated for 1.5 but Google decided to UV the clock for battery life. Different carriers pay for different options so its not surprising that sprint would try and be different. They have to because there network is like a big long turd that wraps around the toilet
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Just to set your story straight....
The SoC is rated for UP to 1.5 GHz. This doesn't mean that our chips are in fact rated for operation at 1.5 GHz. Take some time and search the dev threads about this. It's a pretty big misconception regarding the 4460. Not all 4460's are in fact the same (apparently). Did Samsung/Google underclock these chips? Slightly, but as you will see, these chips will not in fact (generally) hit clockrates higher than 1.4 GHz. The general thought is that there is an issue with the clock generator for 1.5 GHz and higher, which causes the problem.
The GN for Sprint will have the same problems, and will probably be a PR nightmare now.....especially when users find out that their GN only runs at 1.2 GHz.
Sprint version probably has different SoC.
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Overclock

What is the highest stable speed that you can overclock the Verizon nexus to? Also, how do you do it?
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rolltide1995 said:
What is the highest stable speed that you can overclock the Verizon nexus to? Also, what do you to do it?
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varies from phone to phone.
you need a kernel that has the values for overclocking.
Well, the furthest I've ever seen a GNex do was 1844.2 MHz, on both cores.
But as far as I'm aware, the furthest you can go with, by downloading a kernel from here, is 1650 MHz, with imoseyon's kernel.
I tried overclocking my Gnex before - it worked fine but as you already asked: Why? I have not find any reason to stay overclocked. In my opinion everything already is very fluent.
Hi,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1608194
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25334382
Actually for me the max is1.72Ghz,stable...
@Familyguy59:no,Glados kernel,Trinity kernel and Air kernel have overclock higher than 1.65ghz...
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Hi,
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1608194
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=25334382
Actually for me the max is1.72Ghz,stable...
@Familyguy59:no,Glados kernel,Trinity kernel and Air kernel have overclock higher than 1.65ghz...
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Yes, I noticed that a few hours later, after posting ^^ But then again, he asked for stable, my GNex was literally melting and constantly crashing, after I flashed Glados... (Back cover got replaced...)
rolltide1995 said:
What is the highest stable speed that you can overclock the Verizon nexus to? Also, how do you do it?
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No one can tell you what the highest stable overclock for your phone will be. Sure, they can tell you what their individual hardware can achieve, but that does not extrapolate into what your phone can or cannot achieve. There's normal variance from phone to phone even if they're configured exactly the same.
Also, this is one of those things that, if you have to ask, you probably shouldn't be doing. Not having a firm grasp on what your doing and the consequences thereof is a fast and easy way to end up with a paperweight.
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I agree with najaboy, if you don't know how, don't. You'll probably break something.
Look up how to do it instead so you learn.
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I know what I'm doing. I just want to get info about other peoples experiences.
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Well you asked how to overclock in the OP...
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If you know what you're doing, then why bother asking how it's done?
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Games to truly use S3 power?

Just wondering if there are any games that take full advantage of the quad core chip and Mali GPU?
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Games like Nova 3 are heavy gpu eaters but it isnt optimized for quad core cpu's for that well have to wait till such game comes out. As in my opinion cpu doesnt have much effect on gaming performance
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Simmo3D said:
Just wondering if there are any games that take full advantage of the quad core chip and Mali GPU?
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Tegra 3 Games
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Tegra 3 Games
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Don't bet your head on this one.The S2 plays Tegra 3 games(All I've tried and worked) without sweating too much without even the need to be overclocked.I don't see the reason why they would be hard to play for the S3.Games like NOVA 3 do tax the system too much.I think Gameloft's games aren't as well coded as Dead Trigger for example though.
Anyway,if you want to use the full power of the S3,wait some months until Gameloft releases a game with the Unity Engine they teased the other day.I think that will be worth talking about.
Simmo3D said:
Just wondering if there are any games that take full advantage of the quad core chip and Mali GPU?
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Asphalt 7
The new gameloft games Nova 3 and Asphalt 7 actually look really impressive with all the motion blur effects and stuff. Who needs a ps vita^^ But my SGSIII gets really hot when i play them for a longer time, makes me feel a little uncomfortable Altough i never run into any freezes or anything so far...
I tried GTA 3 and it looks amazing with all graphics settings turned up to their highest. Resolution all the way up and Frame Limiter turned off.
Amazing.
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plz share a link of sd data of gta3
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sunil10007 said:
plz share a link of sd data of gta3
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Warez are not allowed on this forum
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jody2k said:
Warez are not allowed on this forum
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dont u think sd data dont include in warez ??

Best processor ever

I have to say I am very imppressed by this phones processor out of every phone I had exynos is the best.I had the lg optimus g and couldnt deal with the random force closes and laginess. Best processor ever leave your comments on thid beast ass processor
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Hmm. I have the Optimus g too but I feel that it is a lot more faster than the note 2 I also have. Funny how everyone's experience is different
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Maknora said:
Hmm. I have the Optimus g too but I feel that it is a lot more faster than the note 2 I also have. Funny how everyone's experience is different
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Your spell checker seems to be better as well
funnycreature said:
Your spell checker seems to be better as well
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more better
Haha thanks. I really just like the Optimus g.
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This phone has been silky smooth and gobbled up everything I've thrown at it. I was shocked at how much faster it is than my Nexus 7, and certainly faster than my Skyrocket.
The only thing that drives me nuts about the processor is the wake lag every time I turn it on from deep sleep. I'll learn to live with it, but this phone would be almost perfect if that were fixed (not including software tweaks).
Jrockttu said:
This phone has been silky smooth and gobbled up everything I've thrown at it. I was shocked at how much faster it is than my Nexus 7, and certainly faster than my Skyrocket.
The only thing that drives me nuts about the processor is the wake lag every time I turn it on from deep sleep. I'll learn to live with it, but this phone would be almost perfect if that were fixed (not including software tweaks).
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Yea well reducing the processor to that low of a clock speed is partly responsible for the crazy ass battery life of this phone. I'd rather have another millisecond of unlock time and gain several hours of battery life. Fine with me.
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i dunno about that... the Snapdragon S4 Pro is quite a beast... it's technically faster than this exynos...
i bet it comes down to software and how well it works with the hardware
ShadowVlican said:
i dunno about that... the Snapdragon S4 Pro is quite a beast... it's technically faster than this exynos...
i bet it comes down to software and how well it works with the hardware
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Look at the Engadget review of the Nexus 4. The note 2 (exynos) beat the snapdragon s4 pro in 4/6 benchmarks and they felt like the exy was better in normal use and battery efficiency. Just look up Nexus 4 review on engadget- Nexus 4,Optimus G, note 2 are all compared. Look at the benchmark table. Note 2 wins 4/6.
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I love the power and speed of my note.... But seriously, benchmarks mean nothing to me. It's real life usage that matters. . Not an app that measures potential.
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I've never seen any huge advantage of the Exynos processors over any others, mainly because they are just stock ARM designs. If Samsung wanted to impress me, they would pay for an architecture license. The A6 is pretty hard to beat, given the performance AND battery life, and I really like my S4 Pro, although it is a bit of a juice hog.
The exynos is a heavily modified arm design, and apples a6 is very very similar to it.
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i dunno about that... the Snapdragon S4 Pro is quite a beast... it's technically faster than this exynos...
i bet it comes down to software and how well it works with the hardware
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That's why you see iphones perform very well despite the specs looking like they are lacking. The iphone 5 after playing with it is just as fast as my Note 2 but it's only dual core and clocked much lower. RAM is also lower.
Pretty sure the reason the a6 is as smooth or smother with lower specs is due to software optimization and the fact it uses 3 core gpu ( which everyone seems to leave out when they make these statements). That is where apple has done good.
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Jrockttu said:
...The only thing that drives me nuts about the processor is the wake lag every time I turn it on from deep sleep. I'll learn to live with it, but this phone would be almost perfect if that were fixed (not including software tweaks).
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How long of a lag are you talking about? Are you sure it's not the home button lag from S Voice being enabled?
Mad383Max said:
Pretty sure the reason the a6 is as smooth or smother with lower specs is due to software optimization and the fact it uses 3 core gpu ( which everyone seems to leave out when they make these statements). That is where apple has done good.
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One area Apple has excelled in is GPU performance. I'm surprised Samsung doesn't push the limits in this area harder. I don't play games much myself but as you said it goes beyond just playing your favorite games on a phone.
Nexus 4 <3
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exynos is king right now (i'm ignoring apple, since it's not apples-to-apples, excuse the pun). exynos 5 is going to be ridiculous. actually it already is, inside the samsung chromebook.
Normally id say cant wait for the note 3 with the quad xenyos 5, but im happy with the note 2, and I hope they wait a year before releasing it. No more 6 month life cycles please
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jackxlj said:
The exynos is a heavily modified arm design, and apples a6 is very very similar to it.
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No, not even close. A6/A6X are heavily modified ARM, and Exynos is just tweaked stock. Samsung doesn't have the architecture license, last I checked. Apple does.
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I need researchers

APQ8064 1.5 - 1.7 GHz Quad Krait Adreno 320 QXGA 1080p No Modem 20 MP
gpsOneGen 8A with
GLONASS
Hexagon QDSP6
500MHz
USB 2.0 High Speed OTG
(480Mbps)
802.11a/b/g/n*
BT 3.x + HS
BT 4.0/LE FM Rx/Tx*
28nm
that is our soc.
what i need are the following answers.
---How many gpus do we have so i can set the number of gpus in the kernel? The current value is limited at 16.
---Specs on the display. (factory specs)
---Does the s4 support multi-core scheduler's? (awesome if it did)
---Also I need someone to find the various address lines in menuconfig for all variants including the n4. We might be able to make a universal kernel using that information.
---Are we using the first or second dsp6 version.
These questions directly effect the kernel
What addresses do you want? We all including mako use the same kernel address, Ramdisk varies, modem I don't remember on the top of my head. I have sbl3 and lk at home. But I don't think you care about those (for the kernel).
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When you say how many gpus do we have do you mean how many cores does the gpu have
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---Specs on the display. (factory specs)
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I hope this helps. If it doesn't let me know and I'll see what I can do
Resolution: 768x1280
Refresh Rate: 60.0
X factor for DPI: 2.0
Density: 320 dpi
Pixel/Inch X: 319.79016 dpi
Pixel/Inch Y: 318.7451 dpi
This might help
http://www.reviewresults.in/reviewresults/post/2012/09/29/Mali-400-vs-Adreno-320-GPU.aspx
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kc_exactly said:
This might help
http://www.reviewresults.in/reviewresults/post/2012/09/29/Mali-400-vs-Adreno-320-GPU.aspx
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So it is a quad core GPU then.
That more seems like its a quad core soc's GPU. 4 cores doesn't seem right
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That more seems like its a quad core soc's GPU. 4 cores doesn't seem right
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Yea, especially with a 64 core gpu showing up at CES for the tegra 4.
I bet it is 16, maybe more.
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Yea, especially with a 64 core gpu showing up at CES for the tegra 4.
I bet it is 16, maybe more.
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Well 16 seems low, it could be 16 but it would be nice if it was more and the kernel is holding back. That does happen
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Well, my pals iPhone 5 smoked this phone in the gpu. I read an article that the new tegra is 64 core and it was a big deal. The tegra 3 was 12 from what I have found but a lot are only 4. I guess it is more the motion in the ocean than the size.
If I find out more I will let you know.
I found this too. http://www.reviewresults.in/reviewresults/post/2012/09/29/Tegra-3-vs-Adreno-320.aspx
It shows the Tegra 3 with 12 which I know is correct.
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It's funny how everyone puts these phones against the iphone and I pad without realizing how much of a beast this gpu is. Apple has been forced to use 3 sgs543 gpus each with 4 sub cores on the iphone 5 to get the performance that this one gpu gets with four sub cores. Just like when nvidia says their gpu has 64 cores it's 64 sub cores on one gpu.
Part of the reason that iproducts benchmark so well is due to less products to support and common socs throughout. That way, they can easily optimize the os for each product.
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