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All such & such says ICS "coming soon" merged

Hey hey,
I know T989D guys are anxious for some ICS news. I called in today to Samsung Canada for some news about the 100% battery bug (where the battery status will stay 100% until you reboot). Anyway, the gentleman on the phone acknowledged the bug and said unfortunately it would not be remedied until firmware version 4.0 was released. He also mentioned that 4.0 was definitely in the works for the T989D, however, he could not confirm the timing, "whether two weeks or two months, I just can't say".
So, there you have it. I confirmed with him again that indeed ICS was on it's way, he acknowledged it was and he definitely knew what he was talking about.
Cheers!
PS: If you're a T989D owner please post your ROM/Kernel experiences and please recommend your top ROM. Thanks!

Right now im running darksides ROM with included kernel http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1473077 it adds many options and cool boot screens I cant say ive ever had a crash... Gonna use it till ics comes out
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Awesome! Thanks for the update! Hopefully they send it to Telus soon.
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telus announced it will have ics last year...

it comes out in 2 years when...burger french fries sandwich is made for other phones.

Dec 31 2012
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leoduncan83 said:
Dec 31 2012
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We would be dead by then lol

nyamd20 said:
We would be dead by then lol
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If I have to wait that long I won't have this phone by then
From ya mums house

If its not out by the next big thing, either SGSIII international, Some new google phone, or an Asus quad core(cause i think asus doesnt mess around when it comes to software updates), then id be upgrading.

Rekzer said:
If its not out by the next big thing, either SGSIII international, Some new google phone, or an Asus quad core(cause i think asus doesnt mess around when it comes to software updates), then id be upgrading.
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Asus is a better choice than Google. Google has totally botched our updates and can't seem to get the bugs fixed. Nexus S updates? Hold. Galaxy Nexus updates? Hold.
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I'm pretty satisfied myself with the speed of the phone with gingerbread, holding outs boot longer ain't so bad with such a powerful SoC. This thing bows away my tegra 2 with ice cream sandwich in many ways.
Any other ROM suggestions? Thanks for that one, trying it now!

autom8r said:
I'm pretty satisfied myself with the speed of the phone with gingerbread, holding outs boot longer ain't so bad with such a powerful SoC. This thing bows away my tegra 2 with ice cream sandwich in many ways.
Any other ROM suggestions? Thanks for that one, trying it now!
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could always try foxstar ;]

a call center rep said it will happen, so it will...
i see this ending well... (looks back at similar vibrant threads)

when i bought my t989d from telus in november it said on the website Android 4.0 - available in 2012. This was one reason i bought the phone knowing that it will get it eventually. I do hope it comes damn soon though cause if the gsIII comes out and we still dont have it i will upgrade for sure.

If the T989D gets it, we get it! That's the awesomeness of having a closely related phone to Canadian carriers that care more about updates. The T959D (I believe D) got Gingerbread and we got nothing. Only difference was the antenna bands.

I'm not excited about ics at all, look at the international version of ics.. it looks exactly like gb.
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cashyftw said:
I'm not excited about ics at all, look at the international version of ics.. it looks exactly like gb.
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Who cares, once it drops, we just need to wait a bit and we will get CM9. Bell has the international version and they said in December they would get ICS in April. Looks promising for their date since the other 9100s got the update this week. So if the international version gets it April in Canada, i would expect May to be a good release date for the variants.

cashyftw said:
I'm not excited about ics at all, look at the international version of ics.. it looks exactly like gb.
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Agreed. I have a Sensation with ICS port and the only thing that really improved was battery life. A few tweaks here and there...really isnt a big deal and other than better battery management, I dont see what all the fuss is about...the facial unlock that works 15% of the time maybe?

Android_Guy said:
Agreed. I have a Sensation with ICS port and the only thing that really improved was battery life. A few tweaks here and there...really isnt a big deal and other than better battery management, I dont see what all the fuss is about...the facial unlock that works 15% of the time maybe?
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The fuss is many fold. Better application management. Better Task manager. First Android OS that I had not had to run a Task Killer on to be stable (on Vibrant). Slicker, smoother faster UI. Better Memory management and of course as noted better battery life because of all of the above. Finally, it's System settings screen has a better and more functional layout.
The face unlock is mostly gimmick but nice nonetheless. I will use it once I get it.
Another really big thing is the ICS stock unlock is so far the best I have used.

once the official ICS drop for our phones, the first thing any Dev would do is rip off TW and replace it with something else more AOSP like
personally i've never used any stock launcher
the first thing i do all the time is freeze TW or stock launcher, and replace them with Go Launcher EX
the important stuff of ICS is not the looks of it, but rather the raw power by the 3.x Linux Kernel it uses, and the real usage of SMP
all the top layer stuff can be changed or replaced by something else

Jelly Bean 4.1 will be announced next week. What are you expecting for the Gnex?

Just thought I'd ask since nobody else did. I really hope they fix the audio latency issues and improve the stock email client. Keeping my expectations low since ICS has been so great already. All that needs to be fixed is the foundation of the Android OS so that longstanding issues go away.

It will probably be 4.0.5. You really think they'll name it 5.0 just for those small changes.

My money is on Jellybean being 4.1, not 5.0. A whole point release implies a complete redesign, whereas I really think they wouldn't do that twice in a row. ICS is a good base, and needs refining, not a complete overhaul.

will probably be 4.1 or 4.5 version

Any source that it will be announced next week?
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wayne850 said:
Any source that it will be announced next week?
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Google tends to give a peek at the next version of Android at Google I/O.

martonikaj said:
My money is on Jellybean being 4.1, not 5.0. A whole point release implies a complete redesign, whereas I really think they wouldn't do that twice in a row. ICS is a good base, and needs refining, not a complete overhaul.
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I'm thinking that as well, but publications are calling it 5.0 so I called it that as well.

For such a short period of time from releasing ICS, I don't think they'll name it 5.0 as I assume there won't be any changes. 5.0 would have to be something revolutionary like honeycomb

Think of Eclair, Froyo and Gingerbread, they were 2.1, 2.2 and 2.3 respectively and were very much alike. I hardly think Jelly Bean will be THAT much different from ICS to need a new whole number (say 5 or 6).
It'll most likely be 4.1. Not 4.0.X.

CADude said:
Just thought I'd ask since nobody else did. I really hope they fix the audio latency issues and improve the stock email client. Keeping my expectations low since ICS has been so great already. All that needs to be fixed is the foundation of the Android OS so that longstanding issues go away.
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Jelly Bean?
Where'd you get this information?
Flipboard isn't doing its job. I should know these things!
Sent from the future.

There was that leaked photo of the possible Asus Nexus tablet running 4.1. So I am putting my money on Jellybean being 4.1.

4.1
Little changes, performance improvements, some new functionalities and services announced.
That is what I expect.

How long do you guys think Android will stay at 4.X? Considering that only 7% of devices have 4.x, it could be another 2 years before we see a rollout of the 5.x series.

Definitely 4.1 which is what the Nexus 7 tablet is running.
I've done tons of homework on it.

CADude said:
How long do you guys think Android will stay at 4.X? Considering that only 7% of devices have 4.x, it could be another 2 years before we see a rollout of the 5.x series.
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I don't think that the carriers lack of pushing out the updates will stop googles improvements on their operating system.

I'd also agree that it'll probably be 4.1. I can't see Google releasing a 5.x bump so soon after ICS. Jelly Bean will probably be the Gingerbread to ICS' Froyo.

k.janku1 said:
For such a short period of time from releasing ICS, I don't think they'll name it 5.0 as I assume there won't be any changes. 5.0 would have to be something revolutionary like honeycomb
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8 Months?

Get rid of the data drop issues. That is by far the biggest annoyance with 4.0.4 right now.

Would love if it would look something like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26931660
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Qortez1 said:
Would love if it would look something like this: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=26931660
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Ics looks like that if you want. New ui is not what i waiting for jelly bean.

[DISCUSSION] The Newest LG update: 4.2.2

So now that I see most companies updating their flagships with android 4.2.2, first samsung, now sony and htc, its reasonable to think that LG's update shouldn't be too far away, anybody knows any rumors on when we might get the update?

Ask LG. I don't know why they are delaying it so much. 4.2.2 it's ready since 1st june. I can tell you this from a secure source. My guess is they are waiting until G2 is released. Anyway,lg is not known for frequently updates...

kimitza said:
Ask LG. I don't know why they are delaying it so much. 4.2.2 it's ready since 1st june. I can tell you this from a secure source. My guess is they are waiting until G2 is released. Anyway,lg is not known for frequently updates...
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Is your "secure source" actually within LG or a carrier? I feel like LG may abandon this phone once the G2 is released, based on their track record.

r.asimi said:
Is your "secure source" actually within LG or a carrier? I feel like LG may abandon this phone once the G2 is released, based on their track record.
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Will hope CM will build for us and eliminate last issues..
CM anyway better a lot than stock..

kimitza said:
I can tell you this from a secure source...
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where are the kdz.?? when the buidl finished, there must be a 4.2.2 kdz in a black corner on the internet

It's not working like that. The test units come with the software pre-installed.you may be surprised what nda we have to sign.
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Just be patient
My previous phone was an Optimus 2X and LG promised to us that ICS will roll out in the first quarter of 2012 but we just got it in january 2013...
LG really su*** about firmware update...but I just buy LG phone because they are really though compare to the Sam''cheap plastic''sung.
My opinion :angel:

eseregin said:
Will hope CM will build for us and eliminate last issues..
CM anyway better a lot than stock..
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Don't agree, how can you tell that it's better if CM it's not a 100% working ROM...
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As soon as I got this phone I rooted it and I installed an aosp 4.2
W ROM, tested different Roms for weeks, not because I wasn't happy with any of them, but because I'm am a flashing freak who changes Roms all the time, one day I was bored and said to myself you know what? I'm gonna flash the stock 4.1.2 and give it a shot, and I can't believe this thing is faster than any aosp rom, even with my carriers bloatware, its smooth, super fast, and the most important thing STABLE, no FCS or random reboots, I didn't even give the stock firmware a chance at the beginning because I was so used to Samsung crap laggy touchwiz that I thought anything other than stock android was crap, but I am enjoying the stock lg firmware even better than aosp, hope they update to 4.2.2 soon, and hope they fix a few stuff that annoys me like the ugly as **** dialer! cmon man the guy who designed that **** needs some years in prison!
Cheers
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rimsilva said:
Don't agree, how can you tell that it's better if CM it's not a 100% working ROM...
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How come is not a 100% working rom? It's done now lol built for 975
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Well,you can't call it 100% working rom when you have basic stuff like bt call not functional.
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kimitza said:
Well,you can't call it 100% working rom when you have basic stuff like bt call not functional.
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Exactly that's the point.
This is a phone I need to make calls over BT.
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Im sorry, what is BT Call again? xD normal calls are ok here ._.

Try to make a call with bluetooth handsfree and see if it works...
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LRC1710 said:
As soon as I got this phone I rooted it and I installed an aosp 4.2
W ROM, tested different Roms for weeks, not because I wasn't happy with any of them, but because I'm am a flashing freak who changes Roms all the time, one day I was bored and said to myself you know what? I'm gonna flash the stock 4.1.2 and give it a shot, and I can't believe this thing is faster than any aosp rom, even with my carriers bloatware, its smooth, super fast, and the most important thing STABLE, no FCS or random reboots, I didn't even give the stock firmware a chance at the beginning because I was so used to Samsung crap laggy touchwiz that I thought anything other than stock android was crap, but I am enjoying the stock lg firmware even better than aosp, hope they update to 4.2.2 soon, and hope they fix a few stuff that annoys me like the ugly as **** dialer! cmon man the guy who designed that **** needs some years in prison!
Cheers
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I will never install any more custom rom for this phone. Im satisfied with stock. Its stable, smooth and lag free. And i hope we get new version soon. I dont think we will get 4.2.2 because its starting to be old. But we will get newer one
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+1
With my previous phones I would always flash to the latest CM build and never keep the factory rom but since I got this phone, I don't feel the need to flash. Its so smooth/fast and has some very nice software features that I don't want to loose. I don't mind if they skip the 4.2.2 update as long as we get key lime pie.

optimus g is my first android phone i flashed crom.
never missed again on android.
i hate all stock roms, not beautiful and minimalistic enough for me

CM is garbage and so drab looking!

why you say cm is garbage Oo?
and yes, i love this drab looking of pure android.

CM is not garbage but not OK. It will allways be bugs and stuff that doesnt work because of missing drivers and stuff.
Better with STOCK rom. You can use your phone fully without missing stuff. But if someone making Custom STOCK ROM modified then we can talk custom ROM.

Android 4.3 and OpenGL ES 3.0 and our phone

Hi All,
I'm sure many of you checked out the Android 4.3 / Nexus / etc. announcement today.
OpenGL ES 3.0 is being touted as one of the big features of 4.3. I did a quick search and noticed that our phone w/ the Adreno 225 does not support OpenGL 3.0.
I'm curious - how do you guys think this will affect our experience for this particular Android version (assuming we eventually get it from Samsung... :fingers-crossed? I'm trying to understand if the graphics / battery life improvements are dependent on GL 3.0 or not.
Thoughts?

Doubtful sammy will update the S3 with 4.3, I'm interested in what the AOSP devs do with this version though.

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Doubtful sammy will update the S3 with 4.3, I'm interested in what the AOSP devs do with this version though.
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That'd be pretty brutal. Even the GS2 went from 2.3 -> 4.0 -> 4.1.

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Doubtful sammy will update the S3 with 4.3, I'm interested in what the AOSP devs do with this version though.
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Me too
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One of the other "perks" of 4.3 is support for Bluetooth low energy.
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The galaxy sIV will almost certainly be getting 4.3, so I think the galaxy sIII will too. But it will be missing a few of those features ofcouse. Thought when using samsung roms, it doesn't really feel like I'm missing anything.

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That'd be pretty brutal. Even the GS2 went from 2.3 -> 4.0 -> 4.1.
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The S3 has gone from 4.0.4, 4.1.1 and 4.1.2. I would love to see even 4.2.2 on the S3. From what I've read there have been speed bumps along the way for TW for whatever reason.
If 4.3 is that much different than 4.2.2, I seems presumably less feasible that they'll have a chance at getting to work with TW.

Fortunately 4.3 is only fairly minor, under the hood changes
I just really hope that our phones don't get killed on 4.1.2
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The S3 has gone from 4.0.4, 4.1.1 and 4.1.2. I would love to see even 4.2.2 on the S3. From what I've read there have been speed bumps along the way for TW for whatever reason.
If 4.3 is that much different than 4.2.2, I seems presumably less feasible that they'll have a chance at getting to work with TW.
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I suppose my argument was the SII had 2+ full API-level updates. The SIII has only had 1. (4.03-04 to 4.1.x).
If Samsung has problems getting TW working properly with new versions of android, they are going to have some big problems on their hands, at least with more knowledgeable / enthusiast users.
The crystal ball is showing GSM nexus devices in my future instead of this bullocks ...

No 4.2.2 for S3 will go straight to 4.3 and it will end there.

I'll believe it when it happens.
Also, OP, there are like 5 threads related to 4.3 in some way now
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CNexus said:
I'll believe it when it happens.
Also, OP, there are like 5 threads related to 4.3 in some way now
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so did the s3 ever get OpenGL ES 3.0 or not by 4.4.2?

[Q] Galaxy Note 2 Android 4.3 poll question.

I know there are people on here who have had a lot of Samsung Android smartphones. I also know that Samsung isn't the most reliable when releasing updates for the current phones when a new device is about to be released. That is extremely frustrating when Samsung says they will give their customer base a new version of the Android OS, but then drop the updates or say they will give a set number of devices the latest version, but only keep their word for 2 out 3 devices. So my question is... Who on here thinks that we will get Android 4.3 this year and who thinks we will get it nest year?

Samsung said already it would be updating the N2 by October.
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jibust said:
Samsung said already it would be updating the N2 by October.
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I hope you're right, but I seem to recall Samsung leaking several months ago that we'd have it early July (the SGH i317 was one of several devices noted on the list...not sure whether the other devices got theirs or not)
... still waiting and not overly optimistic

Do u guys have an official link to what Samsung said? Cause all I remember was that the s3 was gettting update in October.
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Honestly I don't think it matters when it's released. Because soon as there's a leak out there for, some new firmware. The DEVS around here are going to be all over it. And we all know that. So I think that everyone should just sit back and wait a month or so... We should know something by then.
Just my 2¢®
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judib said:
I hope you're right, but I seem to recall Samsung leaking several months ago that we'd have it early July (the SGH i317 was one of several devices noted on the list...not sure whether the other devices got theirs or not)
... still waiting and not overly optimistic
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that was for android 4.2.2 but then they decided to skip that for the n2 and go right to 4.3

The last update was supposed to be in February but was delayed until April. Not to optimistic about October.
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I for one, don't see why we need a 4.3 update. Run a 4.2 and 4.3 TW ROM side by side and you won't notice any difference. Samsung replaces the stock lock screen with it's own (bye bye lock screen widgets). And if you enable lock screen widgets, it's all messed-up, you a minuscule place to touch to switch to the next widget, so most of the time you end up going to clock settings.
Quick settings panel is really changed and at least for me TW notification drawer toggles are a lot more useful.
If you want 4.3 just run an AOSP ROM, you'll get the full experience.
Google has done a great job by starting to update core apps and apis through play store apps.
And IMHO 4.1.2 is a lot better than 4.2.2 which brought a lot of bugs memory leaks and lag.

jibust said:
If you want 4.3 just run an AOSP ROM, you'll get the full experience.
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You may get the full experience, but at what costs? Only the Manufacturers coders know how to tune the ROM to not be a battery guzzler. Only the Manufacturers coders know how to make a the ROM 90% stable. But some of us actually use the Samsung-only apps like S-Note. Sure Samsung has really messed up the overtime with the Android OS (I miss being able to turn off touchwiz). I've used Vanilla Rootbox, PAC-Man, CyanogenMod, AOKP and Paranoid Android and all of them leave something to be desired. The only thing PA has going for it is HALO and Per App DPI, outside of that it looks and feel just like every other aftermarket AOSP ROM.

thunderx2000 said:
You may get the full experience, but at what costs? Only the Manufacturers coders know how to tune the ROM to not be a battery guzzler. Only the Manufacturers coders know how to make a the ROM 90% stable. But some of us actually use the Samsung-only apps like S-Note. Sure Samsung has really messed up the overtime with the Android OS (I miss being able to turn off touchwiz). I've used Vanilla Rootbox, PAC-Man, CyanogenMod, AOKP and Paranoid Android and all of them leave something to be desired. The only thing PA has going for it is HALO and Per App DPI, outside of that it looks and feel just like every other aftermarket AOSP ROM.
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Either you have never used AOSP or you have not used a recent 4.3 build, they are pretty much rock solid, almost zero bugs(TW ROMs are full of bugs also), and battery life is the same as a TW ROM.
And I tend to use non-OEM apps just so I have the liberty to change ROMs whenever I want. Papyrus has worked great for me