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while it's only $100 at best buy. How's the development for this one (AT&T)? It looks like 9/10 of the ROMs have been abandoned and not updated for a month or more, is there some reason for this?
Anyway, if I get the SGSIII I will NEED
GPS that locks within 30 seconds, I get lost A LOT.
Working audio (no skipping or weird issues) from the 3.5mm connector
stable and doesn't crash or go really slow
Camera working enough to at least take clear pictures quickly
Do any ROMs do this currently?
Also a couple other questions. What can I expect for battery life, does it last a whole day with moderately heavy use? Any known issues that just come with the device and can't be/aren't currently fixed, like crapple's camera flare or my Infuse's terrible GPS (that got fixed with a relaunch and silent recall)?
Wtf. Almost every cm10 or aokp rom has been updated nightly. Most touchwiz roms don't get updated since they are close to being finished since there are no bugs on stock roms.
If you want it to work good run touchwiz roms. With battery I get 15 to 25 hours and about 4 hours on screen time which is pretty heavy use. As for bugs none I know of on stock. Everything works flawlessly.
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you can use aokp, Its great!
While the International version has a ton of roms, the I747 has a good amount of solid builds. You can have your choice of stock ics touchwiz (ariel), jelly bean touchwiz leaks (aristodemos, serenity) and aosp jellybean hybrids (aokp, liquid smooth, paranoid android). All work perfectly with GPS locking on within 15 seconds max. Never had a problem.
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100$ outright or under contract? BB canada is 0$ on our crappy 3 year plan
Yea.... a lot of the TouchWiz ICS ROM's haven't had updates lately because there isn't really a whole lot for them to do with the ROM, since it was pretty much complete to begin with. Just about all they really did on them is remove bloat, add custom themes, and tweak some stuff here and there. The TouchWiz JB ROM's still get updated fairly regularly, since there are still tweaks to be made here and there, and things to be updated as new leaks arise. But stuff like Cyanogenmod and the different ROM's built off of it are updated daily or every other day or two.
Been using CM10 nightly and now on M2 stable build. I use it as daily driver and don't have any issues. You won't be disappointed OP
I'll give my two cents as I've had this phone for bout 4 days now and I am coming of iOS.
I am a fairly techy user. I I run Linux servers for fun. I am but never got jntk android because I figured I'd play with the phone more than use it and it would end up being broken half the time.
Immediately after getting it I rooted it and flashed the rom and have already tried CM10, two TW ROMs and whatever else I could get my hand on.
Ultimately for stability purposes I'm still on stock. The phone is really good in terms of use, and but be prepared to know that ROMing it is still an experimental thing and if you want it to work flawlessly, and you'll most probably sitting on stock (which is not a bad thing)
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not to hijack the thread..
but is Ariel the ATT equal of CleanRom for verizon?
I'm on SlimBean but battery isn't stellar... so going to try my luck at a touchwiz rom.
I have a international gs3 9300 and an ATT gs3 and I run my Att gs3 as my main phone because tasks aokp jellybean ROM is hands down the best ROM built for either phone. The 9300 has many more roms than the i747. I bought the 9300 for the increased development and I learned the expensive way that quality beats quantity in the ROM department. Get the Att gs3 and root and flash tasks aokp and I guarantee you will be very happy.
I hope you got the phone today and I hope you enjoy it. Personally, I'm so satisfied with the stock rooted ROM that I've almost kicked my flashing addiction.
Almost.
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You can look under the original development page for some good stable roms like SlimBean, PA, and Aokp. All function well enough to be a DD.
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I have a international gs3 9300 and an ATT gs3 and I run my Att gs3 as my main phone because tasks aokp jellybean ROM is hands down the best ROM built for either phone. The 9300 has many more roms than the i747. I bought the 9300 for the increased development and I learned the expensive way that quality beats quantity in the ROM department. Get the Att gs3 and root and flash tasks aokp and I guarantee you will be very happy.
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I agree with Jonny here... I too am running JB AOKP and everything works perfect. Task650 is always adding new commits and is constantly updating the ROM. Another point to consider... every phone is NOT created equal. The same ROM and kernel can run better/worse on one SGS3 to the next. You have to flash and try a ROM out to see how it runs for you because it won't be the same on another phone of the same model. Besides, what's stopping YOU from going through the development area and reading the threads like the rest of us have to do to learn what we need to? First suggestion.... don't be lazy and expect others to spoon feed you answers because you WILL receive backlash and grief. Do yourself a favor and SEARCH and READ anything and everything you feel is pertinent to your query. Spare yourself the frustration. This is just a word to the wise. No disrespect intended.
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t3chn0s1s said:
I agree with Jonny here... I too am running JB AOKP and everything works perfect. Task650 is always adding new commits and is constantly updating the ROM. Another point to consider... every phone is NOT created equal. The same ROM and kernel can run better/worse on one SGS3 to the next. You have to flash and try a ROM out to see how it runs for you because it won't be the same on another phone of the same model. Besides, what's stopping YOU from going through the development area and reading the threads like the rest of us have to do to learn what we need to? First suggestion.... don't be lazy and expect others to spoon feed you answers because you WILL receive backlash and grief. Do yourself a favor and SEARCH and READ anything and everything you feel is pertinent to your query. Spare yourself the frustration. This is just a word to the wise. No disrespect intended.
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This.
Task and ktoonzes are rocking this phone and Cyanogen himself is heading up CM development. Enough said.
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This.
Task and ktoonzes are rocking this phone and Cyanogen himself is heading up CM development. Enough said.
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Exactly.
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TheNetwork said:
while it's only $100 at best buy. How's the development for this one (AT&T)? It looks like 9/10 of the ROMs have been abandoned and not updated for a month or more, is there some reason for this?
Anyway, if I get the SGSIII I will NEED
GPS that locks within 30 seconds, I get lost A LOT.
Working audio (no skipping or weird issues) from the 3.5mm connector
stable and doesn't crash or go really slow
Camera working enough to at least take clear pictures quickly
Do any ROMs do this currently?
Also a couple other questions. What can I expect for battery life, does it last a whole day with moderately heavy use? Any known issues that just come with the device and can't be/aren't currently fixed, like crapple's camera flare or my Infuse's terrible GPS (that got fixed with a relaunch and silent recall)?
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The GPS and Navigation is AMAZING on any Android phone.
Their Music app could use some work, however i do use the app PlayerPro
TouchWiz is pretty stable but i find gets slower with time and i think thats due to the fact that its running ICS. I would recommend flashing a custom ROM such as CM10 for JB which makes the OS run ALOT smoother.
The stock camera is also very good with alot of features.
Hopes this helps.
I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!
Not a good thread at all to start up man, just try them out and see for your self. Every one likes different things so it's kind of hard for us to just assume your needs... you know what I mean? Lots like both for different reasons, some always revert back to a stock rom some always go back to a cm rom.
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Leave it stock but rooted for the first few days to see what you think. Many think the extra features and that its stable and fast are worth staying stock based. Still a lot of others opt for cm or aokp regardless. Just give em both their fsir chance!
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flash the latest cm10 nightly. They work for Samsung and all
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Not a good thread at all to start up man, just try them out and see for your self. Every one likes different things so it's kind of hard for us to just assume your needs... you know what I mean? Lots like both for different reasons, some always revert back to a stock rom some always go back to a cm rom.
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That is why I didn't ask if I should flash CM 10 or not. I very simply asked what the differences were between stock and CM 10. I am wondering what features I will have with stock that I will lose with CM 10 and vice versa. That is a very fair question to ask of people who have already used both. I am trying to avoid trying both by going through a hassle and having to reinstall my programs and reconfigure my settings multiple times if I don't have to.
You lose all samsung stock features. That should be a no brainer. No motion activities, no smart stay (natively) no touchwiz, no wifi calling. Vanilla stock is what it always is, clean, no bloat, and super fast... what I said wasnt in any way being rude. It was exteremly truthful, and to the point.
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You lose all samsung stock features. That should be a no brainer. No motion activities, no smart stay (natively) no touchwiz, no wifi calling. Vanilla stock is what it always is, clean, no bloat, and super fast... what I said wasnt in any way being rude. It was exteremly truthful, and to the point.
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Wifi calling doesn't work on CM 10? I have been using it on CM 7 for my G2x.
So do you miss any of those Samsung features? I guess are they gimmicky or actually nice to have? From reviews, I have read that stock is really fast, so not sure if I gain speed by going to CM. Have you noticed speed improvements with CM 10 over stock?
I know but its so deeply integrated into framework and settings now its a pain. And no I personally don't miss those gimmicky features, but allot of people do. I stick to tw roms, because of battery. It always seems to last longer on stock based roms for me. Otherwise I prefer cm based roms. Lets just say I'll be moving to cm as soon as I feel it is closer to 100% in my eyes. Or the nexus 4 lol. And the only way I can feel it being 100% is by me testing it, not asking others. That's what I meant with my 1st post.
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I have to agree with mt3g here. AOSP ROMs are not the same as TW ROMs. I used TW for awhile when I first got my SGS3 and flashed pretty much all of them out there. I wasn't concerned with battery use, as I consider myself a battery expert. I was more interested in performance and features that were exclusive to TW and AOSP. They are so different that the only way to really get to know each other is to test drive them yourself.
Now I am on LiquidSmooth (AOSP base) and I love it. I am getting massive battery life, have tethering (I thethered my tablet to is almost all day yesterday after a bad flash [on the tablet not the phone]), Theme chooser springs a bit of life back into the eyecandy part. <--sometimes people flash not bc they want a new ROM but a new look .
Will I go back to TW? Sure. I tested Doc's ROM before he released it and I like it plenty enough to run it as a daily driver. But this is XDA and what are here for?
What do we want? A custom ROM
When do we want it? NO ETAs!!!! :cyclops:
Woodrube said:
I have to agree with mt3g here. AOSP ROMs are not the same as TW ROMs. I used TW for awhile when I first got my SGS3 and flashed pretty much all of them out there. I wasn't concerned with battery use, as I consider myself a battery expert. I was more interested in performance and features that were exclusive to TW and AOSP. They are so different that the only way to really get to know each other is to test drive them yourself.
Now I am on LiquidSmooth (AOSP base) and I love it. I am getting massive battery life, have tethering (I thethered my tablet to is almost all day yesterday after a bad flash [on the tablet not the phone]), Theme chooser springs a bit of life back into the eyecandy part. <--sometimes people flash not bc they want a new ROM but a new look .
Will I go back to TW? Sure. I tested Doc's ROM before he released it and I like it plenty enough to run it as a daily driver. But this is XDA and what are here for?
What do we want? A custom ROM
When do we want it? NO ETAs!!!! :cyclops:
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Very well said. :good:
I personally never ever ran a touchwiz or sense ROMs on any device I've ever owned for more than a day. I just missed the full control cm ROMs give. Ever since my HD2 I've ran cm7 up to cm10 on my s3. I really never notice the features being lost from a tw ROM mostly because I don't use them. Never really thought their "advertised" features were all that.
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I am running on a CM10 based rom and the only stock Samsung feature I miss is the Smart Stay. Everything else was just too gimmicky
Pretty sure there is an app for most of the samsung features.
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I stuck to stock ICS TW for a couple of days and I didn't enjoy it.
It just seemed too much and I wanted a closer to stock experience.
Made the switch to CM10. Greatest thing ever.
It's simple, effective, and works in pretty much every way that I would like.
The only thing that I miss from TW is the Messaging app.
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I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!
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Do you use Skype, Vox, or any other VOIP app? If you do, then don't flash CM10, AOKP or any other AOSP based rom.
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Do you use Skype, Vox, or any other VOIP app? If you do, then don't flash CM10, AOKP or any other AOSP based rom.
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May I know why? I'm right now with the Galaxy SI and on CM10, hoping to get the S3 and on the same dilemma. Right now my Skype works well on the CM10, Viber works only on speaker phone.
Having tried cm 10/aokp as well as TW ROMs for extended periods of time, I can say the following:
Although at first missing a certain TW feature might seem like a drawback- the feeling comes from what you're used to, and after a few days or week you will likely forget those features which you previously had which you thought were so important. For me the TW calendar (s Planner) was the big thing I was missing- since for a while I really couldn't find a good substitute which looked as good and performed as well! Finally I found one, so now I don't even compare anymore, but even if I hadn't found a substitute I'm sure I would have moved on at some point.
Point is, base your choice on the majority of the benefits that you'll get from the respective ROM. Personally, I like aokp/cm10 precisely because of its overall simplistic aesthetic ( I'm in love with the native jelly bean fonts used in the notification bar) and its native ability to theme. In terms of performance and extra tweaks, there are plenty of custom TW ROMs which are on par with the aosp ones (IMO). So I think it comes down to the overall feel/look, and pure personal preference.
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jimbo831 said:
I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!
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you will lose wifi calling, you will lose the ability to upload music straight from the music player to drop box, you will lose your mind, however, once you run a JB ROM and use google now for the first time, and you will go ape over the amount of customization available to cm10 users.
honestly, used "stock" for about 3 weeks when i first got my device back in july, flashed cm10, and never looked back. words cannot describe how amazing and feature-packed a cm10 ROM is...
flash hellfire 1.3 (if you don't mind the red), and give slim bean a shot if you don't want the red. I have had nothing but positive results with those two.
also, follow my guide in this section for the flashing process.
good luck.
WiFi calling
For me WiFi calling is the biggest feature, and extremely important. I don't have T-Mobile signal in my lab, where I spend most of the time and WiFi calling is the only hope. This is why I'm staying with the stock for now.
But if anyone can show me a way to get WiFi calling on CM10, I will be really thankful. Hate the stock rom from the bottom of my heart!!
-Thanks
The camera on cm10 is whats holding me back but once they come out with cm10.1 based on JB 4.2 then i think ill root and rom my phone.
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Got my S4 a couple days ago and flashed AOKP within an hour. I thought the TW bundled with the phone was pretty damn smooth, but AOKP is just insane. It's like something out of a commercial where there's zero lag, but it's not a commercial, it's the actual phone in your hands. When I hit voice search, it pops up INSTANTLY. I've had a couple soft reboots when hitting recent apps from a frozen app, but I'm sure those will be ironed out. I'm not sure the camera pictures I've taken have looked as nice, though. It's hard to tell.
For those of you who made the move from TW to an AOSP-based ROM, what are your thoughts? Has anyone moved back to TW?
I've never used anything but aosp on any phone. Be it cyanogen or aokp or pure aosp.
With my previous HTC devices it was a no brainer to dump Sense ROMs and replace them with anything else. Even my Samsung tablet that came with TW didn't last long but that was because I wanted Jelly Bean on it before the official upgrade came out so TW was gone within 2 days on my tablet. So I've been using aosp for a year and a half without interruption.
When I first turned on my S4 I was shocked at how cluttered everything was. Having been used to aosp I didn't understand how anyone could use this phone as it comes out of the box. There was a new alert every 8 seconds. The notification window was constantly filled with stuff I couldn't have cared less about. Status bar was filled with icons that had no meaning to me. The only feature I thought was really cool was the T Mobile account monitor in the notification window. Everything else was just clutter. Granted, much of that was carrier bloat.
It took me 20 minutes to test all the hardware and make sure the device was not in. Need of an exchange before I rooted it and ever that was kind of painful with the TW interface. I flashed Cyanogen and am not looking back.
Oh, and despite all that about TouchWiz that I didn't like...its about a billion times better than HTC Sense.
I will say that on my unbranded Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 tablet that is WiFi only and there for completely unbranded with no bloat, the pure TouchWiz interface it came with was very nice. It was much less cluttered and more usable. Just not as configurable as aosp.
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I guess its universal AOSP are always smoother to bloated TouchWiz. I personally prefer TW (yes call me crazy ) Either you love TW or you hate it there's no other option TW with all its goodies is lot cooler than what it used to be..
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I've also noticed AOSP feels much faster... virtually no lag to be found. One thing that I have noticed though, and it may be something I'm not doing right with my settings, but TW seems to get better battery life than AOSP. I like TW for certain features such as the camera quality and one or two of the gimmicky features; but halo, unbridled speed, and customization possibilities with AOSP makes it a hard decision of which to stay with.
Overall i find most of the touchwiz features just unnecessary bloatware that you really dont need, thats more for showing off that your phone can do it over actually being practical to keep on all the time. I really like the general smoothness of AOKP much better than touchwiz, but in some areas such as the camera, AOKP really lacks in that department compared to the stock camera app, and i find 3D applications don't perform quite as well as they do on Touchwiz either, and i think most of these issues are probably more driver related than anything.
I used aokp on my s2 and loved it because it doesnt have any samsung goodness like s3 and s4 but on this devices I use TW to utilize full function.
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For those of you who uses AOSP/AOKP/w.e else ....what do you use as alternative camera/gallery? What i love about Samsung is their gallery and camera. I have found mods that transfer AOSP camera / gallery to TW but never vice versa.
I tried Aosp roms on my s3 and s4. I always end up back on tw cuz aosp roms are never 100% stable. The last time I actually stayed on aosp was with my Motorola Triumph and that's because the triumph was stuck on froyo and Cm7 was pretty stable.
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Okay, the big question:
Is it possible to use Watch ON (or smart remote, etc) on AOSP/AOKP/Cyanogen/etc? or is this limited to touchwiz only?
As for camera quality, I expect that to start changing for the better once the Nexusized GS4 gets released
adventure_of_link said:
Okay, the big question:
Is it possible to use Watch ON (or smart remote, etc) on AOSP/AOKP/Cyanogen/etc? or is this limited to touchwiz only?
As for camera quality, I expect that to start changing for the better once the Nexusized GS4 gets released
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Probably TW only
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adventure_of_link said:
Okay, the big question:
Is it possible to use Watch ON (or smart remote, etc) on AOSP/AOKP/Cyanogen/etc? or is this limited to touchwiz only?
As for camera quality, I expect that to start changing for the better once the Nexusized GS4 gets released
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It is in the Play store so I would think so. Try it out and let Us know
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It is in the Play store so I would think so. Try it out and let Us know
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I'm pretty curious about this myself. From what I've heard AOKP/AOSP doesn't have the software to utilize the IR blaster, but I could always be wrong. I use TW , but will almost always run Nova launcher for customization.
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Probably TW only
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that's what I thought. thanks.
Oh well, just another reason why I said once before on how I'm happy with my phone's OS as/is.
adventure_of_link said:
Okay, the big question:
Is it possible to use Watch ON (or smart remote, etc) on AOSP/AOKP/Cyanogen/etc? or is this limited to touchwiz only?
As for camera quality, I expect that to start changing for the better once the Nexusized GS4 gets released
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According to Cyanogen, the source code for that isn't proprietary. He wants to see what other devs come up with.
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According to Cyanogen, the source code for that isn't proprietary. He wants to see what other devs come up with.
Sent from Spaceball One.
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The source code for the software might not be, but I think it is for the IR hardware. I know on the Samsung tablets that have an IR blaster they don't work in CM because the hardware drivers are proprietary.
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Ive been running CM10.1 and just switched to SlimBean. I never once missed the new features of TW. The abilities of AOSP far outweigh them in my opinion.
Tw all the way..
I have no issues or lag... I was a big fan of liquid smooth for a bit but I went back to stock
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for the people that switched
if u change to custom roms do u get any more space out of the sd card?? also does cyanogyn get better battery than stock cus i have ****ty battery life unrooted atm with stock
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if u change to custom roms do u get any more space out of the sd card?? also does cyanogyn get better battery than stock cus i have ****ty battery life unrooted atm with stock
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No to the extra sd space.
Possibly yes to the battery life. It greatly depends on how you set it up and what features you do and don't activate. Also the cm builds are nightly builds, which means any given one of them could have randomly crappy battery life due to a glitch or something. These have been great builds lately but that can always happen with nightlies. That aside though...yes you should get better battery life
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thanks, i will get a custom rom soon and try it out. this whole thing is just boggling my mind haha. at one point it was draining at around a percent a minute and i just came back from the gym, was listening to music the whole time on my headphones and using voice to control it and in those 45 mins i didnt lose a single percent of battery smh
On my note 2 I've had PA and I loved it. simple and easy but I just got started looking at serious developer ROMS since i got the note 3 and I don't have much knowledge on it and if PA is as effective as roms made already. So here are my questions:
Is paranoid android effective compared to let's say Jedi? And if it's not what's a good way to emulate it's features(such as hybrid)
Is it developed already for the Note 3? If not when do you think it will push out?
Since I've been modding with roms already made I have learned alot since my switch to the note 3. and I feel like I am way behind when it comes to developing and customizing(i just edited my first systemui on apktool last night) so it's been inspiring me to learn more. But i just love the simplisticity of PA.
Thanks guys! I look forward to becoming an active member on XDA!
PA is based on AOSP/CM. Until we get a built-from-source ROM available for Note3, you won't be able to get PA. IMO, the best thing in PA is per-app DPI, and you can get that with Xposed and the App Settings module. You also already have a better version of floating windows in the stock ROM.
Inxed said:
On my note 2 I've had PA and I loved it. simple and easy but I just got started looking at serious developer ROMS since i got the note 3 and I don't have much knowledge on it and if PA is as effective as roms made already. So here are my questions:
Is paranoid android effective compared to let's say Jedi? And if it's not what's a good way to emulate it's features(such as hybrid)
Is it developed already for the Note 3? If not when do you think it will push out?
Since I've been modding with roms already made I have learned alot since my switch to the note 3. and I feel like I am way behind when it comes to developing and customizing(i just edited my first systemui on apktool last night) so it's been inspiring me to learn more. But i just love the simplisticity of PA.
Thanks guys! I look forward to becoming an active member on XDA!
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PA is based on AOSP/CM. Until we get a built-from-source ROM available for Note3, you won't be able to get PA. IMO, the best thing in PA is per-app DPI, and you can get that with Xposed and the App Settings module. You also already have a better version of floating windows in the stock ROM.
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If CM hasn't started supporting it yet, don't expect to see it on PA, AOKP, etc til then. Usually CM waits for recovery to be working on all variants before they start to really push for support.
Pay close attention to their gerrit here: http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/q/statuspen,n,z
But like I said once most variants get a working recovery CM and others will start to support the Note 3 in terms of AOSP ROMs. Right now, AT&T and VZW are both waiting for stable recovery. Usually once those 2 are going, since T-Mobile and Sprint don't really lock their bootloaders, it'll happen. Just be patient. We probably won't see 4.3 AOSP on the Note 3... more than likely it'll be 4.4 KitKat
itsmikeramsay said:
If CM hasn't started supporting it yet, don't expect to see it on PA, AOKP, etc til then. Usually CM waits for recovery to be working on all variants before they start to really push for support.
Pay close attention to their gerrit here: http://review.cyanogenmod.org/#/q/statuspen,n,z
But like I said once most variants get a working recovery CM and others will start to support the Note 3 in terms of AOSP ROMs. Right now, AT&T and VZW are both waiting for stable recovery. Usually once those 2 are going, since T-Mobile and Sprint don't really lock their bootloaders, it'll happen. Just be patient. We probably won't see 4.3 AOSP on the Note 3... more than likely it'll be 4.4 KitKat
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Cool, thanks for the info! I figured that development on 4.3 for note 3 won't really happen. Kind of got stuck at the worst time to learn Android dev. Kit kat is supposed to be release soon i hope with the nexux 5. I guess untill then ill get to fool around with what is made now. And yes atnt and vzw are reeeeally strict on bootloading. Just one of many reason why i eventually switched to tmo!
Thanks by the way! Good info I didn't know CM and PA are related.
Inxed said:
Cool, thanks for the info! I figured that development on 4.3 for note 3 won't really happen. Kind of got stuck at the worst time to learn Android dev. Kit kat is supposed to be release soon i hope with the nexux 5. I guess untill then ill get to fool around with what is made now. And yes atnt and vzw are reeeeally strict on bootloading. Just one of many reason why i eventually switched to tmo!
Thanks by the way! Good info I didn't know CM and PA are related.
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No problem. Yeah most AOSP based ROMs are based on CyanogenMod. Ones that aren't are ones that are built from pure AOSP, which usually are Nexus devices...
ttabbal said:
PA is based on AOSP/CM. Until we get a built-from-source ROM available for Note3, you won't be able to get PA. IMO, the best thing in PA is per-app DPI, and you can get that with Xposed and the App Settings module. You also already have a better version of floating windows in the stock ROM.
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Yeahhh I guess it's best just to wait on it all. per-app DPI works really well and so does floating windows with touch-wiz, but, call me lazy, I would just like a way to have access to the windows without having to use the spen. But it's progress! For now I'm using the floating notification app which is pretty cool.
Inxed said:
Yeahhh I guess it's best just to wait on it all. per-app DPI works really well and so does floating windows with touch-wiz, but, call me lazy, I would just like a way to have access to the windows without having to use the spen. But it's progress! For now I'm using the floating notification app which is pretty cool.
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If you're referring to PEN Window check this out.... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.xperiacle.penwindowlauncher
itsmikeramsay said:
If you're referring to PEN Window check this out.... https://play.google.com/store/apps/details?id=mobi.xperiacle.penwindowlauncher
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Sweet! I am definitely using this! And yes the pen window sorry.
Inxed said:
Sweet! I am definitely using this! And yes the pen window sorry.
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Great! Yeah I'll be using this myself... :good:
The better question is when will we be seeing the Illusion rom? Absolutely one of the best rom I've ever used.:victory:
I like the pen launcher, very nice little app. Well worth the whole 1.50 I think it was.
HigherSensation said:
The better question is when will we be seeing the Illusion rom? Absolutely one of the best rom I've ever used.:victory:
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Thus my fledgling wings appear. I know not of this Illusion rom. I'll look it up! I had time at work read up on somethings and found out about AOKP... any good?
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Thus my fledgling wings appear. I know not of this Illusion rom. I'll look it up! I had time at work read up on somethings and found out about AOKP... any good?
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AOKP = My personal favorite. It's practically CyanogenMod with even more fluff! Just as simple to use, too! :good:
Inxed said:
Thus my fledgling wings appear. I know not of this Illusion rom. I'll look it up! I had time at work read up on somethings and found out about AOKP... any good?
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Have a look.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzv69UIb70M
HigherSensation said:
Have a look.http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Jzv69UIb70M
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Wow that theme he's using is really nice.
I'll take any CM or AOSP rom right now. TW on this phone is nice, but I could careless any of the features of offers. I don't use.
Nexus ONE
Actionx1 said:
Wow that theme he's using is really nice.
I'll take any CM or AOSP rom right now. TW on this phone is nice, but I could careless any of the features of offers. I don't use.
Nexus ONE
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I know right? After using CM for so long on my note 2, TW is so bloated. I can't wait either AOKP or Illusion to be developed for my device.
This time around on my Note 3, I'm not using any CM based roms. On my previous phone, a mt4gs from HTC, I was flashing a different CM based rom every month or every other month but on a friends phone, a Note 2, I had put Jedi Master on it and was impressed. So I waited a couple of weeks after getting my phone, watching what was being released and ended up settling on the latest release by jovi23 of his DarthStalker rom and have been impressed with it. My only complaint and it is such a tiny complaint too, is that he has 4x4/5x5/5x6 icon grids for the home screen but no 4x6.
indstrlmtlhd said:
This time around on my Note 3, I'm not using any CM based roms. On my previous phone, a mt4gs from HTC, I was flashing a different CM based rom every month or every other month but on a friends phone, a Note 2, I had put Jedi Master on it and was impressed. So I waited a couple of weeks after getting my phone, watching what was being released and ended up settling on the latest release by jovi23 of his DarthStalker rom and have been impressed with it. My only complaint and it is such a tiny complaint too, is that he has 4x4/5x5/5x6 icon grids for the home screen but no 4x6.
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Well Personally I use sslauncher and that solves my grid problems. And I guess it's people preference, I just don't like TouchWiz. To Samsung: Note 3: Awesomeness, Touchwiz: Score of Zero. I started on DarthStalker which was awesome, but then I got curious about the roms made recently so now I'm currently on Jedi Elite, which is good too. I think I may switch back to DS because I've noticed some lagginess on Jedi that I didn't experience with Darth.
Sweet OP type building cm and Pa for the phone awesome sauce..
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is there anyway to get halo feature? I miss that the most from paranoid android.
Who really even care about about 4.3 its nothing special ... doesn't even hardly change the ui interface. ..Unless a OS
Update drastically changes the look of the ui like it did when we went from gingerbread to ics then it's nothing great .
Our phones aren't really physically gonna change were not gonna magically get an ir blaster feature or LG knock on feature for instance Just cause of an Os update . ..it's never that dramatic using 4.3 vs 4.1.2 is nearly the same .
All does for me is make the settings menu more difficult to browse thru.
It just more problematic then anything
Especially for the Knox issue ... everyone takes these Ota updates more @ more just like apple fans take ios updates and to there dissatisfaction they Realize in some way apple has become even more of a dictator with every new ios or Samsung has once again Walked one further step away from being open sourced.
It's all about control .
Hope people can see the point of when a and why it's occasionally worth and also not worth taking an update.
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It's really difficult for me to even compare an update from android to one from apple. It may not seem like much now (4.3 compared to 4.1.2) but wait till our Devs release their new roms. Most have been working on newer S4/N3 rom's and will do whatever possible to bring the functionality to us. Also if you think Knox creates a big headache for android modding, try looking into what progress jailbreaks have made from even 6.x iOS's..Tethered Jailbreak's are a joke.. give it a couple of weeks
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nail has been hit on the proverbial head
op you have spoken the truth
It might not seem big but for me the update on the samsung keyboard alone was big...lol..now it has auto-correct!
yeah but other than that, idk if there is much change...maybe better battery life?
My op was straight to the cut... the amount of control you gain to loose is more then the amount you gain from taking 4.3 as it stands now ...
Headaches ... Knox issue , saddened in dismay with no ui change ,MEGA battery issues .No more 4.1.2 based roms EVER...And you've signed your note 2 life away to be controlled at Samsungs desire .
This is also noted on sprint forum about 4.3 Every forum for that matter .
Just stay with 4.1.2 base and flash 4.3 roms
I Rest my case .
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My op was straight to the cut... the amount of control you gain to loose is more then the amount you gain from taking 4.3 as it stands now ...
Headaches ... Knox issue , saddened in dismay with no ui change ,MEGA battery issues .No more 4.1.2 based roms EVER...And you've signed your note 2 life away to be controlled at Samsungs desire .
This is also noted on sprint forum about 4.3 Every forum for that matter .
Just stay with 4.1.2 base and flash 4.3 roms
I Rest my case .
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Our phones are obviously not going to change hardware wise, but 4.3 brought a ton of features along with bugs. It's the norm.
Samsung features aside, 4.3 opens a ton of doors when it comes to accessing some 4.3+ apps. Xposed modules such such as wanam xposed, dashclock from the play store, and several more.
We're now somewhat on par with the Note 3's and S4's features. Quick settings toggles, tabbed settings, TRIM support, galaxy gear support, revamped samsung apps and much more. If you're worried about tripping knox, you should've just waited a day to flash a dev's knox free stock rom.
lojak29 said:
Who really even care about about 4.3 its nothing special ... doesn't even hardly change the ui interface. ..Unless a OS
Update drastically changes the look of the ui like it did when we went from gingerbread to ics then it's nothing great .
Our phones aren't really physically gonna change were not gonna magically get an ir blaster feature or LG knock on feature for instance Just cause of an Os update . ..it's never that dramatic using 4.3 vs 4.1.2 is nearly the same .
All does for me is make the settings menu more difficult to browse thru.
It just more problematic then anything
Especially for the Knox issue ... everyone takes these Ota updates more @ more just like apple fans take ios updates and to there dissatisfaction they Realize in some way apple has become even more of a dictator with every new ios or Samsung has once again Walked one further step away from being open sourced.
It's all about control .
Hope people can see the point of when a and why it's occasionally worth and also not worth taking an update.
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Party pooper
Keeping the thread slim and trim in regards to 4.3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561794