Lots of Big hype about 4.3 Not really! ! - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II

Who really even care about about 4.3 its nothing special ... doesn't even hardly change the ui interface. ..Unless a OS
Update drastically changes the look of the ui like it did when we went from gingerbread to ics then it's nothing great .
Our phones aren't really physically gonna change were not gonna magically get an ir blaster feature or LG knock on feature for instance Just cause of an Os update . ..it's never that dramatic using 4.3 vs 4.1.2 is nearly the same .
All does for me is make the settings menu more difficult to browse thru.
It just more problematic then anything
Especially for the Knox issue ... everyone takes these Ota updates more @ more just like apple fans take ios updates and to there dissatisfaction they Realize in some way apple has become even more of a dictator with every new ios or Samsung has once again Walked one further step away from being open sourced.
It's all about control .
Hope people can see the point of when a and why it's occasionally worth and also not worth taking an update.
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It's really difficult for me to even compare an update from android to one from apple. It may not seem like much now (4.3 compared to 4.1.2) but wait till our Devs release their new roms. Most have been working on newer S4/N3 rom's and will do whatever possible to bring the functionality to us. Also if you think Knox creates a big headache for android modding, try looking into what progress jailbreaks have made from even 6.x iOS's..Tethered Jailbreak's are a joke.. give it a couple of weeks
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nail has been hit on the proverbial head
op you have spoken the truth

It might not seem big but for me the update on the samsung keyboard alone was big...lol..now it has auto-correct!
yeah but other than that, idk if there is much change...maybe better battery life?

My op was straight to the cut... the amount of control you gain to loose is more then the amount you gain from taking 4.3 as it stands now ...
Headaches ... Knox issue , saddened in dismay with no ui change ,MEGA battery issues .No more 4.1.2 based roms EVER...And you've signed your note 2 life away to be controlled at Samsungs desire .
This is also noted on sprint forum about 4.3 Every forum for that matter .
Just stay with 4.1.2 base and flash 4.3 roms
I Rest my case .
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lojak29 said:
My op was straight to the cut... the amount of control you gain to loose is more then the amount you gain from taking 4.3 as it stands now ...
Headaches ... Knox issue , saddened in dismay with no ui change ,MEGA battery issues .No more 4.1.2 based roms EVER...And you've signed your note 2 life away to be controlled at Samsungs desire .
This is also noted on sprint forum about 4.3 Every forum for that matter .
Just stay with 4.1.2 base and flash 4.3 roms
I Rest my case .
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Our phones are obviously not going to change hardware wise, but 4.3 brought a ton of features along with bugs. It's the norm.
Samsung features aside, 4.3 opens a ton of doors when it comes to accessing some 4.3+ apps. Xposed modules such such as wanam xposed, dashclock from the play store, and several more.
We're now somewhat on par with the Note 3's and S4's features. Quick settings toggles, tabbed settings, TRIM support, galaxy gear support, revamped samsung apps and much more. If you're worried about tripping knox, you should've just waited a day to flash a dev's knox free stock rom.

lojak29 said:
Who really even care about about 4.3 its nothing special ... doesn't even hardly change the ui interface. ..Unless a OS
Update drastically changes the look of the ui like it did when we went from gingerbread to ics then it's nothing great .
Our phones aren't really physically gonna change were not gonna magically get an ir blaster feature or LG knock on feature for instance Just cause of an Os update . ..it's never that dramatic using 4.3 vs 4.1.2 is nearly the same .
All does for me is make the settings menu more difficult to browse thru.
It just more problematic then anything
Especially for the Knox issue ... everyone takes these Ota updates more @ more just like apple fans take ios updates and to there dissatisfaction they Realize in some way apple has become even more of a dictator with every new ios or Samsung has once again Walked one further step away from being open sourced.
It's all about control .
Hope people can see the point of when a and why it's occasionally worth and also not worth taking an update.
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Party pooper

Keeping the thread slim and trim in regards to 4.3 http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2561794

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Is there a need for custom rom?

I've been looking at the pictures of some home screens which look spectacular, I just want your opinion. I've just sold my iPhone 5 for Galaxy S3 i9305 LTE and I'm already amazed at being able to do so much. One thing that annoyed me with iPhone was the need to jailbreak if you wanted to do anything, so android is perfect and I think my phone set up with Nova Launcher Prime looks terrific.
Do I really need to go any further as I'd hate having to go back in the jailbreak business.
You and try it out no one is stopping you and I suggest that there is better performance for the phone so it is good
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I've been looking at the pictures of some home screens which look spectacular, I just want your opinion. I've just sold my iPhone 5 for Galaxy S3 i9305 LTE and I'm already amazed at being able to do so much. One thing that annoyed me with iPhone was the need to jailbreak if you wanted to do anything, so android is perfect and I think my phone set up with Nova Launcher Prime looks terrific.
Do I really need to go any further as I'd hate having to go back in the jailbreak business.
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You do what you want if you find you want xxx and it requires root then its your choice .
Point to note no root then no XDA Developers exists .
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I believe it is a matter of personal preference. This phone is one of the best, so no, there is no need for a custom Rom if it covers all of your needs as if. Just have in mind that some custom roms will give you a performance gain but will break some other stuff. I am not against custom, I've used them since I bought my Spica but this is the first one I do not see the need to go the custom Rom way
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Personally, I rooted my previous phones (and my Galaxy Tab) to increase their performance. However, he S3's performance - and come on, dude, you have the LTE version - is worlds apart to that of my previous phones. I still don't see the need to customize it.
However, this is coming from someone who doesn't really mind the TouchWIZ interface that Samsung made. If you really want a stock Android experience, then root, and then install a custom rom.
To be totally honest, don't think a custom rom is needed. That said, some mods DO make it better by a fair bit. For a phone that boasts 1Gb of ram it falls really short on multitasking. It just seems to close any app that stays in the background for a while even if it's memory wasn't needed. Rarely though, it will work properly for some reason. Haven't tried better memory managment mods (will do at some point) but this is the only really important one i'd like stock to do better.
There's also another grey area. Not really a custom rom but the latest samsung leak for the international version make it worlds apart from stock ICS, performance and functions wise. You'd need to get it from unofficial channels since it's a leak and hasn't been officially released yet AND in some countries may never be or just be really delayed for some reason. To install it, of course, you'd have to dable into "jailbreaking" (man i hate this term) business since it isn't official.
Also, in this latest leak, i'm also looking forward to that mod that adds all apps to multiview (haven't installed it yet). Everything else i'd use to want from a custom rom (mainly on my SGS), samsung has just about delivered: configurable toggle buttons, long press toggle to quickly access settings, smart stay/rotate, really smooth UI with touchwiz (even if it redraws often albeit less in this latest ROM), LOADS of ways to ease up your how you interact with your phone (gestures, motions, etc), loads of convenient menus everywhere, etc. Even if something is not to your liking there's a very high chance you can customize it or just get a free app from the market to make it to your liking, most of the time not requiring a rooted phone.
TL: DR: Nop, don't think so. I'd change minor stuff though
Simply necessary to set 240 DPI...320 is for my grandma.
NO...period. ..
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Interesting subject..
In reality no, there no need for a custom rom.. its simply an avenue to save time. Eg. If you find yourself installing a multitude of different mods/tweaks everytime you update your phone then a custom rom would suite you because they come installed by default.
If you like as close to the stock experience as possible then by all means no a custom rom is not needed.
In reality a custom rom is simply a collection of mods cooked together by the dev.. roms share very similar mods/tweaks with perhaps some cosmetic differences.
The phrase "jailbreak" originated because of the stock iOS experience being so restricted.. in the Android world the stock experience is the complete opposite, it allows you to do a large range of things although the only thing you may have to do to completely take advantage of your device is root it.
Perhaps this thread should of went into the Q/A area.. but nether the less good subject.
Pie8er said:
I've just sold my iPhone 5 for Galaxy S3 i9305 LTE
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We need more people like you in this world! Come join us in the Galaxy S3 general discussion thread!
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1889453
Also, in my opinion, there is no need to root the S3. Samsung have done an amazing job with it! It has great features and you can do so much without having to root. If you like the flavour of custom ROMs, though, you'll need to root. Just check them out and see what suits your everyday needs!
Enjoy!
kaynpayn said:
To be totally honest, don't think a custom rom is needed. That said, some mods DO make it better by a fair bit. For a phone that boasts 1Gb of ram it falls really short on multitasking.
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If you see the OP he actually bought the I9305 which is 2GB ram.. So its good with multitasking. And to the OP you are in the wrong Forum there is a I9305 q/a forum now if you read the forum headings. And about the custom rom, Just go about your way and use your phone normally now if you come to a roadblock or hiccup or want to try tweak it in anyway thats when you start looking into customizing or getting another rom and see if it runs smoother

Should I rooot???

Hi people, long time xda member and rooter here. Been rooting phones since original G1 on tmobile. But new to samsung high end note 2. Anyway, with no real performance issues on this beast and results like this I was curious as to if rooting would be worth it. What are your thoughts. Some note 2 users say to leave it stock.
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For me, the only reason to root a phone is to get it to do something it doesnt already do. Ask yourself does your phone do everything u need it to do? Is it fast enough for you? Its pointless to ask other people because everyone uses their device differently so everyones opinion is different.
personally i wouldn't. i tried different roms including the all mighty jedi and there was something not right. The stock feel was not there. i love the stock rom, i'm using xona kernel and stock rom which seems to give me such great battery life.
I am surprised that someone claiming to be experienced as you would ask this question.
As said above: You have to ask yourself this question and other questions. Like: Why do you want to root? What am I going to do that needs root? Is root worth it to me?
When it comes to device performance and battery performance improvements with root, it all depends on what you do after rooting. There are some roms that some claim to improve performance. You can freeze or uninstall preinstall apps. Some believe thay improves performance. You can manage background processes, which I feel yields the greatest improvement in performance. All of these need root.
There may be few apps that may help on performance. You can tweak the device for better performance. Don't always need root for these. Needing root or not depends on the app/s and/or tweak/s used.
You can always improve on the performance of any device, including Galaxy Note 2, and battery performance through methods that need root and methods that don't need root. So this question doesn't make sense.
This is more about your knowledge and experience rather than if root will improve performance or not.
Fyi - You should ask the right questions if you want to get the answers that you are looking for.
Summary of Devices
Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-T889)
Android Version: 4.1.1 Jelly Bean
Build: JRO03C.T889UVALL4 (Rooted)
Root Method: mrRobinson injected root stock rom
Superuser: SuperSu Pro v1.0
Busybox: Busybox v1.20.2
Device: Motorola DROID X
Android Version: 2.3.3 Gingerbread
Build: 4.5.605.Accurate_Battery (Rooted)
Point taken. I was just putting it out there because I've read some conflicting statements that say note 2 roms were buggy and it was best left stock but wasn't sure yet. Like I said I always rooted before and reeped the rewards but never had a phone this awesome before. Thanks for input anyway
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Stock roms suck battery life and rooted roms rule. Got rid of all the t mobile stuff running my phone down. Just a great thing this root is. I will never go stock again.
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GhostZini said:
Point taken. I was just putting it out there because I've read some conflicting statements that say note 2 roms were buggy and it was best left stock but wasn't sure yet. Like I said I always rooted before and reeped the rewards but never had a phone this awesome before. Thanks for input anyway
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Generally, starting out, every phone is "buggy" when it comes to custom development.
So far, as development for this device is updated hourly, when it comes to rooting I would ask myself
Does being "up-to-date" really matter? (ie - if no carrier of GNII offers 4.2 or higher, and custom rom flashing is the only way to get to that higher version, then rooting is the only way)
Is AOSP, etc, that much better than GNII's version of TouchWiz?
Is Allshare a deal breaker? I say this because, as of now i dont think there is any viable way to run allshare with a custom recovery/kernal installed (or at least options will be limited)
In summary, stock is what it is, and at least for GNII owners this means GREAT... However, custom does allow you to upgrade your phone without waiting for the carrier to release anything! If nothing else, at least with rooted-stock you Will Not lose any stock functionality (not even allshare)... As you probably already know, at least with root you can back up apps/data etc and in rare cases (like with the Huawei M886 where the carrier sent out a OTA that bricked many devices) you at least won't have to worry about anything bricking your phone
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Well I would root if I were u... After a while I need the Note II to be a little faster so i rooted then re formated my 64gig SD card and then flashed a different kernel to allow me to over clock the processor...I was actually surprised how much faster the phone moved opening different apps and so fourth. ROOT MY FRIEND
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I'm keeping it stock, if anything I'll root it just to install titanium and have the ability to tether. But still run it fairly stock but delete tmobile bloatware.
mrbkkt1 said:
I'm keeping it stock, if anything I'll root it just to install titanium and have the ability to tether. But still run it fairly stock but delete tmobile bloatware.
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how can you tether after root and stock firmware?
eduardmc said:
how can you tether after root and stock firmware?
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I have the same question. I would like to tether my connection to my tablet while keeping my SN2 rooted and stock
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I'll give the 100% best answer here even though someone else will still give their own answer or shoot mine down, lol. 1st, Even though there is no reason to, i overclock my note 2 to 1.92ghz, but like i said there is no reason because you can still tell no difference at all just by overclocking. 2nd, With being rooted you can remove all the crapware in your phone while leaving all the amazing things in your phone you bought it for, say things like the worthless yahoo news and yahoo news daemon and yahoo stocks and yahoo stocks daemon, all junk, there is so much stuff to remove from this phone it's sickening, before rooting my phone constantly used 1.4gb of ram at almost all times, now it uses 492, yes exactly around 492mb's at all times and this is with max home screens all filled with widgets. And yes, with the Jedi rom which i consider the best, your phone will actually run smoother and faster and it is something you will be able to feel and not just feel it in your thoughts like some kind of placebo. But 3rd, right now the biggest and main reason people will root their phone is to make it look how they want, along with also adding in part of the 2nd which is removing the crapware making it the biggest reason to root. I have been able to get into all my phones software,change all the colors from overscroll glow to the backgrounds in every single settings menu and love the way it looks. Look up all the mods to the way you can make certain widgets transparent, change the colors of things like the multi window app menu, use every singe app in multi window which you cant do stock, and see if you like how this will make your phone look and function. But again, a custom rom only, wont make your phone run faster, due to the fact most have so much of their own stuff added in which will take the place of the crapware installed in the phone making it run and feel the same, unlike with the Jedi Rom where you can actually feel the difference, make your phone look nicer and more crisp with different colors and transparent mods, and most importantly, like even without a custom rom and just rooting, remove all the crapware. Like alot of phones out there, most do this to overclock the cpu/gpu, but in this phones case it is not needed due to the fact it runs faster than some peoples computers as is, so you will definetly be rooting your phone for internal cosmetic reasons, and improving speed by removing again, the crapware,lol. It took me almost 3 months to decide to finally root my phone, and when i finally got done with the 5mn process, i was actually like wow, i cant believe i didnt do this in the 1st place and thought about it every day for all this time, and wasted 90 days on a 5mn process,lol.
So are you going to root ??
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MikeYuse0406 said:
I have the same question. I would like to tether my connection to my tablet while keeping my SN2 rooted and stock
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Too be honest, I'm not sure, but rooting opens up options. I used to Bluetooth tether my note 10.1 to my nexus 4, but haven't found the need to yet, after getting the gn2.
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Well, I did root and I'm glad I did. Instant results were immediate. Speed, improved bartery, and tweaks were just some of biggest reasons I see as why to do it. Using jedi x11 and my phone flys like a g6. Lol
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mrbkkt1 said:
Too be honest, I'm not sure, but rooting opens up options. I used to Bluetooth tether my note 10.1 to my nexus 4, but haven't found the need to yet, after getting the gn2.
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I use trevee mod.. works great
eurohomie said:
I use trevee mod.. works great
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Which mod is that? Can you WiFi tether on stock?
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For those who moved from TW to AOSP: thoughts?

Got my S4 a couple days ago and flashed AOKP within an hour. I thought the TW bundled with the phone was pretty damn smooth, but AOKP is just insane. It's like something out of a commercial where there's zero lag, but it's not a commercial, it's the actual phone in your hands. When I hit voice search, it pops up INSTANTLY. I've had a couple soft reboots when hitting recent apps from a frozen app, but I'm sure those will be ironed out. I'm not sure the camera pictures I've taken have looked as nice, though. It's hard to tell.
For those of you who made the move from TW to an AOSP-based ROM, what are your thoughts? Has anyone moved back to TW?
I've never used anything but aosp on any phone. Be it cyanogen or aokp or pure aosp.
With my previous HTC devices it was a no brainer to dump Sense ROMs and replace them with anything else. Even my Samsung tablet that came with TW didn't last long but that was because I wanted Jelly Bean on it before the official upgrade came out so TW was gone within 2 days on my tablet. So I've been using aosp for a year and a half without interruption.
When I first turned on my S4 I was shocked at how cluttered everything was. Having been used to aosp I didn't understand how anyone could use this phone as it comes out of the box. There was a new alert every 8 seconds. The notification window was constantly filled with stuff I couldn't have cared less about. Status bar was filled with icons that had no meaning to me. The only feature I thought was really cool was the T Mobile account monitor in the notification window. Everything else was just clutter. Granted, much of that was carrier bloat.
It took me 20 minutes to test all the hardware and make sure the device was not in. Need of an exchange before I rooted it and ever that was kind of painful with the TW interface. I flashed Cyanogen and am not looking back.
Oh, and despite all that about TouchWiz that I didn't like...its about a billion times better than HTC Sense.
I will say that on my unbranded Samsung Galaxy Tab 2 tablet that is WiFi only and there for completely unbranded with no bloat, the pure TouchWiz interface it came with was very nice. It was much less cluttered and more usable. Just not as configurable as aosp.
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I guess its universal AOSP are always smoother to bloated TouchWiz. I personally prefer TW (yes call me crazy ) Either you love TW or you hate it there's no other option TW with all its goodies is lot cooler than what it used to be..
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I've also noticed AOSP feels much faster... virtually no lag to be found. One thing that I have noticed though, and it may be something I'm not doing right with my settings, but TW seems to get better battery life than AOSP. I like TW for certain features such as the camera quality and one or two of the gimmicky features; but halo, unbridled speed, and customization possibilities with AOSP makes it a hard decision of which to stay with.
Overall i find most of the touchwiz features just unnecessary bloatware that you really dont need, thats more for showing off that your phone can do it over actually being practical to keep on all the time. I really like the general smoothness of AOKP much better than touchwiz, but in some areas such as the camera, AOKP really lacks in that department compared to the stock camera app, and i find 3D applications don't perform quite as well as they do on Touchwiz either, and i think most of these issues are probably more driver related than anything.
I used aokp on my s2 and loved it because it doesnt have any samsung goodness like s3 and s4 but on this devices I use TW to utilize full function.
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For those of you who uses AOSP/AOKP/w.e else ....what do you use as alternative camera/gallery? What i love about Samsung is their gallery and camera. I have found mods that transfer AOSP camera / gallery to TW but never vice versa.
I tried Aosp roms on my s3 and s4. I always end up back on tw cuz aosp roms are never 100% stable. The last time I actually stayed on aosp was with my Motorola Triumph and that's because the triumph was stuck on froyo and Cm7 was pretty stable.
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Okay, the big question:
Is it possible to use Watch ON (or smart remote, etc) on AOSP/AOKP/Cyanogen/etc? or is this limited to touchwiz only?
As for camera quality, I expect that to start changing for the better once the Nexusized GS4 gets released
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Okay, the big question:
Is it possible to use Watch ON (or smart remote, etc) on AOSP/AOKP/Cyanogen/etc? or is this limited to touchwiz only?
As for camera quality, I expect that to start changing for the better once the Nexusized GS4 gets released
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Probably TW only
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adventure_of_link said:
Okay, the big question:
Is it possible to use Watch ON (or smart remote, etc) on AOSP/AOKP/Cyanogen/etc? or is this limited to touchwiz only?
As for camera quality, I expect that to start changing for the better once the Nexusized GS4 gets released
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It is in the Play store so I would think so. Try it out and let Us know
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It is in the Play store so I would think so. Try it out and let Us know
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I'm pretty curious about this myself. From what I've heard AOKP/AOSP doesn't have the software to utilize the IR blaster, but I could always be wrong. I use TW , but will almost always run Nova launcher for customization.
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Skipjacks said:
Probably TW only
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that's what I thought. thanks.
Oh well, just another reason why I said once before on how I'm happy with my phone's OS as/is.
adventure_of_link said:
Okay, the big question:
Is it possible to use Watch ON (or smart remote, etc) on AOSP/AOKP/Cyanogen/etc? or is this limited to touchwiz only?
As for camera quality, I expect that to start changing for the better once the Nexusized GS4 gets released
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According to Cyanogen, the source code for that isn't proprietary. He wants to see what other devs come up with.
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According to Cyanogen, the source code for that isn't proprietary. He wants to see what other devs come up with.
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The source code for the software might not be, but I think it is for the IR hardware. I know on the Samsung tablets that have an IR blaster they don't work in CM because the hardware drivers are proprietary.
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Ive been running CM10.1 and just switched to SlimBean. I never once missed the new features of TW. The abilities of AOSP far outweigh them in my opinion.
Tw all the way..
I have no issues or lag... I was a big fan of liquid smooth for a bit but I went back to stock
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for the people that switched
if u change to custom roms do u get any more space out of the sd card?? also does cyanogyn get better battery than stock cus i have ****ty battery life unrooted atm with stock
the67ace said:
if u change to custom roms do u get any more space out of the sd card?? also does cyanogyn get better battery than stock cus i have ****ty battery life unrooted atm with stock
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No to the extra sd space.
Possibly yes to the battery life. It greatly depends on how you set it up and what features you do and don't activate. Also the cm builds are nightly builds, which means any given one of them could have randomly crappy battery life due to a glitch or something. These have been great builds lately but that can always happen with nightlies. That aside though...yes you should get better battery life
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thanks, i will get a custom rom soon and try it out. this whole thing is just boggling my mind haha. at one point it was draining at around a percent a minute and i just came back from the gym, was listening to music the whole time on my headphones and using voice to control it and in those 45 mins i didnt lose a single percent of battery smh

[Q] Galaxy Note 2 Android 4.3 poll question.

I know there are people on here who have had a lot of Samsung Android smartphones. I also know that Samsung isn't the most reliable when releasing updates for the current phones when a new device is about to be released. That is extremely frustrating when Samsung says they will give their customer base a new version of the Android OS, but then drop the updates or say they will give a set number of devices the latest version, but only keep their word for 2 out 3 devices. So my question is... Who on here thinks that we will get Android 4.3 this year and who thinks we will get it nest year?
Samsung said already it would be updating the N2 by October.
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jibust said:
Samsung said already it would be updating the N2 by October.
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I hope you're right, but I seem to recall Samsung leaking several months ago that we'd have it early July (the SGH i317 was one of several devices noted on the list...not sure whether the other devices got theirs or not)
... still waiting and not overly optimistic
Do u guys have an official link to what Samsung said? Cause all I remember was that the s3 was gettting update in October.
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Honestly I don't think it matters when it's released. Because soon as there's a leak out there for, some new firmware. The DEVS around here are going to be all over it. And we all know that. So I think that everyone should just sit back and wait a month or so... We should know something by then.
Just my 2¢®
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I hope you're right, but I seem to recall Samsung leaking several months ago that we'd have it early July (the SGH i317 was one of several devices noted on the list...not sure whether the other devices got theirs or not)
... still waiting and not overly optimistic
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that was for android 4.2.2 but then they decided to skip that for the n2 and go right to 4.3
The last update was supposed to be in February but was delayed until April. Not to optimistic about October.
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I for one, don't see why we need a 4.3 update. Run a 4.2 and 4.3 TW ROM side by side and you won't notice any difference. Samsung replaces the stock lock screen with it's own (bye bye lock screen widgets). And if you enable lock screen widgets, it's all messed-up, you a minuscule place to touch to switch to the next widget, so most of the time you end up going to clock settings.
Quick settings panel is really changed and at least for me TW notification drawer toggles are a lot more useful.
If you want 4.3 just run an AOSP ROM, you'll get the full experience.
Google has done a great job by starting to update core apps and apis through play store apps.
And IMHO 4.1.2 is a lot better than 4.2.2 which brought a lot of bugs memory leaks and lag.
jibust said:
If you want 4.3 just run an AOSP ROM, you'll get the full experience.
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You may get the full experience, but at what costs? Only the Manufacturers coders know how to tune the ROM to not be a battery guzzler. Only the Manufacturers coders know how to make a the ROM 90% stable. But some of us actually use the Samsung-only apps like S-Note. Sure Samsung has really messed up the overtime with the Android OS (I miss being able to turn off touchwiz). I've used Vanilla Rootbox, PAC-Man, CyanogenMod, AOKP and Paranoid Android and all of them leave something to be desired. The only thing PA has going for it is HALO and Per App DPI, outside of that it looks and feel just like every other aftermarket AOSP ROM.
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You may get the full experience, but at what costs? Only the Manufacturers coders know how to tune the ROM to not be a battery guzzler. Only the Manufacturers coders know how to make a the ROM 90% stable. But some of us actually use the Samsung-only apps like S-Note. Sure Samsung has really messed up the overtime with the Android OS (I miss being able to turn off touchwiz). I've used Vanilla Rootbox, PAC-Man, CyanogenMod, AOKP and Paranoid Android and all of them leave something to be desired. The only thing PA has going for it is HALO and Per App DPI, outside of that it looks and feel just like every other aftermarket AOSP ROM.
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Either you have never used AOSP or you have not used a recent 4.3 build, they are pretty much rock solid, almost zero bugs(TW ROMs are full of bugs also), and battery life is the same as a TW ROM.
And I tend to use non-OEM apps just so I have the liberty to change ROMs whenever I want. Papyrus has worked great for me

sprint note 4 custom roms

When is somebody going to make a custom rom for this thing
Ever since Josh beach left us I have seen only modified stock, I prefer a rom like kit Kat killer, is anyone working on something like this ?
Cyanogen Mod 12.0 is almost ready. That's a great custom ROM.
pmanzan1 said:
When is somebody going to make a custom rom for this thing
Ever since Josh beach left us I have seen only modified stock, I prefer a rom like kit Kat killer, is anyone working on something like this ?
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I dont think there is a real understanding here, either a rom is stock modified (no matter how modified) or aosp based. aosp is currently being worked on so all there is stock based.
pmanzan1 said:
When is somebody going to make a custom rom for this thing
Ever since Josh beach left us I have seen only modified stock, I prefer a rom like kit Kat killer, is anyone working on something like this ?
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I am kind of in the same boat
Master Zen and Freeza are the other two note users here that I really followed through the Note 2/3
Freeza was a lifesaver for extracting basebands and posting them Day 1 as well as custom kernels and Zen made really good work of stock roms with simple themes.
The note 2 had instant support from the community
The Note 3 took a few months to get going..
Note 4 is at a much slower pace.. but it may have to do with the release schedule and peoples upgrades/contracts.
I actually made my own version of the stock rom.but its still slow
I ported all of my apps and took some tweaks from my note 2 and note 3 and moved them over to the Note 4 with Titanium
Wanam Xposed really has everything I needed for interface adjustments.. I run my phone at 320 pixel density ( as opposed to stock 480)
so its visually pleasing but I have so many apps i moved over Im not sure if the issues im having now are related to one of those tweaks or the phone itself.
This thing is just a lagfest... the keyboard - you hit the back button and you dont know if it accepted the command.. and you end up erasing half a paragraph, Something in touchwiz is also causing an issue with the app window and switching between apps
Ive done all the silly tweaks like window animation, gutted Svoice ( which will cause popup issues with the camera when you try to take a selfie since it loads svoice for listening to verbal commands...
Im ready to jump to CM12 honestly..
Note 3- camera a little better- performance great
Note 4- camera finally good- Performance.. OK despite being spec'd much higher..
Its sad.. but hang in there more options will be around soon- Nobody wants to dump 100s of hours into building the perfect rom on a platform that is at the end of its cycle- When android 5.0/ 5.01 official comes out from Samsung you will see a LOT MORE activity because thats what everyone is waiting for to start building on to be honest. ( And CM is nice, but we always lose features and almost every time theres either an issue with the camera or lockscreen, or texting/mms)
Wait another 2 months, or take your chances with some of the ports and new guys roms.. Anything at this point is better than the stock heap of garbage samsung touchwiz is at its current state
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chaosrecords said:
Note 4- camera finally good- Performance.. OK despite being spec'd much higher.
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Performance ok? Im on zens rom, debloated and my phone flys! First phone with zero lag! Snappy as hell
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BigJPNut said:
Performance ok? Im on zens rom, debloated and my phone flys! First phone with zero lag! Snappy as hell
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Wheres zens debloated
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pbedard said:
Wheres zens debloated
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I debloated it with titanium backup lol
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pbedard said:
Wheres zens debloated
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Either you can use Titanium backup or you can use a few different roms available that come pre-debloated!
So I would like to retract my issues with performance and lag.
I was not aware that Xposed had an issue that caused lag spikes.
Learned when I went to look for new roms- so now i notice a huge difference.. phone is much faster now.
chaosrecords said:
So I would like to retract my issues with performance and lag.
I was not aware that Xposed had an issue that caused lag spikes.
Learned when I went to look for new roms- so now i notice a huge difference.. phone is much faster now.
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I believe there is a fix for that however?
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chaosrecords said:
So I would like to retract my issues with performance and lag.
I was not aware that Xposed had an issue that caused lag spikes.
Learned when I went to look for new roms- so now i notice a huge difference.. phone is much faster now.
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millerboy3 said:
I believe there is a fix for that however?
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You won't have that problem if you use millerboys Rom [emoji41]i use it with no lag and I use xposed.
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chaosrecords said:
Its sad.. but hang in there more options will be around soon- Nobody wants to dump 100s of hours into building the perfect rom on a platform that is at the end of its cycle- When android 5.0/ 5.01 official comes out from Samsung you will see a LOT MORE activity because thats what everyone is waiting for to start building on to be honest. ( And CM is nice, but we always lose features and almost every time theres either an issue with the camera or lockscreen, or texting/mms)
Wait another 2 months, or take your chances with some of the ports and new guys roms.. Anything at this point is better than the stock heap of garbage samsung touchwiz is at its current state
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I agree with you on this. But even with the lack of custom roms, I really have no complaints with a custom stock rom because the phone is great right out of the box. So until 5.0 comes out I really don't see investing a lot of time and effort into making a radical custom rom with 4.4.4. and then having to turn around and start all over again when 5.0 finally releases. With this said, this is the first phone that I really don't feel the need for a wildly custom rom that "adds features". Other than performance/battery tweaks, I'm perfectly fine with it the way it is. Maybe this is because I've been messing with this stuff for so long and seen so many custom roms/projects over the years with several different devices, that I finally feel content with a device without feeling the need for a custom rom. Going with an AOSP/CM based rom pretty much cripples all of the built in TW features and that's the whole point of buying a Galaxy device with a Spen and all of it's features. Let's just see what happens when 5.0 comes out.
millerboy3 said:
I believe there is a fix for that however?
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There is.. many roms that have xposed built in will advertise "Xposed-proof" or "Xposed bug fixed"
I had no idea what they were talking about at first until i realized there was an issue with it causing lag with one of the versions
chaosrecords said:
I am kind of in the same boat
Master Zen and Freeza are the other two note users here that I really followed through the Note 2/3
Freeza was a lifesaver for extracting basebands and posting them Day 1 as well as custom kernels and Zen made really good work of stock roms with simple themes.
The note 2 had instant support from the community
The Note 3 took a few months to get going..
Note 4 is at a much slower pace.. but it may have to do with the release schedule and peoples upgrades/contracts.
I actually made my own version of the stock rom.but its still slow
I ported all of my apps and took some tweaks from my note 2 and note 3 and moved them over to the Note 4 with Titanium
Wanam Xposed really has everything I needed for interface adjustments.. I run my phone at 320 pixel density ( as opposed to stock 480)
so its visually pleasing but I have so many apps i moved over Im not sure if the issues im having now are related to one of those tweaks or the phone itself.
This thing is just a lagfest... the keyboard - you hit the back button and you dont know if it accepted the command.. and you end up erasing half a paragraph, Something in touchwiz is also causing an issue with the app window and switching between apps
Ive done all the silly tweaks like window animation, gutted Svoice ( which will cause popup issues with the camera when you try to take a selfie since it loads svoice for listening to verbal commands...
Im ready to jump to CM12 honestly..
Note 3- camera a little better- performance great
Note 4- camera finally good- Performance.. OK despite being spec'd much higher..
Its sad.. but hang in there more options will be around soon- Nobody wants to dump 100s of hours into building the perfect rom on a platform that is at the end of its cycle- When android 5.0/ 5.01 official comes out from Samsung you will see a LOT MORE activity because thats what everyone is waiting for to start building on to be honest. ( And CM is nice, but we always lose features and almost every time theres either an issue with the camera or lockscreen, or texting/mms)
Wait another 2 months, or take your chances with some of the ports and new guys roms.. Anything at this point is better than the stock heap of garbage samsung touchwiz is at its current state
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Great post, I have same sentiments and feedback.. I went back to Nexus 6 but still have hope for the Note 4. COME ON SAMSUNG!! Release the lollipop update already!!
More than the lagginess of the rom even on debloated rom (compared to nexus 6) my main gripe/thing I cant stand at all is the lack of dark themes.
Not sure how you all could be so excited about lollipop when Xposed won't work on it...
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beezar said:
Not sure how you all could be so excited about lollipop when Xposed won't work on it...
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Old post... yes, but in case any others stumble upon this while looking up stuff for their note 4's... xposed works fine with Lollipop Android. I run my Sprint Note 4 with the Note5 hybrid ROM with the Xposed Framework version 86.0 (custom build by wanam / 20160709) and have no issues.

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