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Getting my phone tomorrow.. What tips or tricks do you all recommend..??

Finally get off Sprints lies of 4G.. I was there from the beginning when they promised me Wimax would be everywhere..
Realizing the HSPA with T-mobile is definitely different then at&t's HSPA.. Its very fast in my area..
So I'm doing it!!!
I plan to root it first thing.. Then put on the newest Juggernaut Rom..
It seems very stable from what many are saying..
I assume there are themes and such for this Rom as well?
Any other tips or tricks you guys can recommend that would be great..

Noo try Macnut... support for juggs is pretty much dead...
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iloveandroid16 said:
Noo try Macnut... support for juggs is pretty much dead...
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Powered by the SGSII....

Ive been using touchless and its been quite good with the darkside kernel...

Congrats on the phone. I'm still running juggernaut 3.7. I haven't really felt the need to try another Rom. I have looked at the macnut. It seems like it's still jugs with little changes.

Same here man, I left Sprint after being a customer since 2006...
I was pleasantly shocked at my coverage with T-Mobile and the HSPA+ speeds here, everything is so much better than Sprint. Congrats on the move, I got out because of a material change in the contract.
I recommend reading up on the rooting guides as well as watching this vid http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=lfA1KKzXkFU. This video is pretty much is fool-proof and if you're a veteran to rooting, then this phone is EZ PZ.

Wow.. thanks all.. Thanks for the heads up on the rom..
This Macnut rom.. It's super stable? Sense rom I assume?

First of all..
First of all, you must root and install a custom ROM if possible. Definitely makes the experience more enjoyable

fastfed said:
Wow.. thanks all.. Thanks for the heads up on the rom..
This Macnut rom.. It's super stable? Sense rom I assume?
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The most up to date roms in our forum are macnut and darkside.
Also, they use touchwiz... Sense is for htc phones.
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jordanishere said:
The most up to date roms in our forum are macnut and darkside.
Also, they use touchwiz... Sense is for htc phones.
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heheh.. ok... Touchwiz it is..
I'm gonna put Macnut as it seems the most popular..
Anything else?
Whats some other goodies I should know about?
Camera tricks?
themes I assume are all included in the rom topic post ?

if you want something that will have everything working, even have apps work that sometimes somehow it doesnt in other roms. Just root and stock and if you want something that doesnt update a lot, root and stock.

Yeah I was reading that some custom roms use up a lot of battery when using Bluetooth. So I have been reading a great deal before I actually do anything. I can deal with the bloatware for now till I get a good grasp of everything.
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stock and root, then remove bloatwares.. thats all you need. all custom rom add is the 14 toggle statusbar, maybe custom kernel... to support BLN or however ( top of of my head ) seen it around but doesnt phase me... other than that, its just themes.. everything is based on 2.3.6 + themes, especially eugenes rom, it seems nothing but theme and LG hack... same ol same.... and people gave him money for a " theme ROM" from him.. wow... give me 350, we will have AOSP them.. with tweaks...

Wife got her SGS2 yesterday and I rooted it with Juggernaut. As a rom, it was fairly disappointing at first as it looked nearly exactly stock, but it did have some good UI tweaks built in as well as an app to toggle bloat on and off. Using titanium to get rid of some of the extra bloat, and launcher pro to ditch TouchWiz UI it's running pretty smooth.
Today is the first day of real use and I have high hopes for it.
Try a few roms, You'll spend more time waiting for them to download than to install and configure with all the upload sites now, but at least you can get a feel for what's out there.
Then just bookmark and stalk the forums for a AOSP ICS build.

noodles2224 said:
stock and root, then remove bloatwares.. thats all you need. all custom rom add is the 14 toggle statusbar, maybe custom kernel... to support BLN or however ( top of of my head ) seen it around but doesnt phase me... other than that, its just themes.. everything is based on 2.3.6 + themes, especially eugenes rom, it seems nothing but theme and LG hack... same ol same.... and people gave him money for a " theme ROM" from him.. wow... give me 350, we will have AOSP them.. with tweaks...
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The modded versions of 2.3.6 are much better than stock. try macnut or darkside warfare. those are currently the most up to date roms available for our phone.
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I tried darkside's ROM; and honestly I don't like touchwiz and I wasn't impressed by the rom because it still had samsung and T-mobile crap on it. Don't get me wrong its a great job with the kernel and I can tell that a lot of hard work went into it, but I'm not looking for just no bloat and system customization. I guess I'm spoiled coming from latest support and development for Cyanogenmod on my Nexus phones, but I loaded the abandoned CM7 mod and Da_G's kernel for the Skyrocket S2 as some other people have used. Some issues...but its expected since it was abandoned in its alpha stage. I'll just be patiently waiting until CM9 rolls around .

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I tried darkside's ROM; and honestly I don't like touchwiz and I wasn't impressed by the rom because it still had samsung and T-mobile crap on it. Don't get me wrong its a great job with the kernel and I can tell that a lot of hard work went into it, but I'm not looking for just no bloat and system customization. I guess I'm spoiled coming from latest support and development for Cyanogenmod on my Nexus phones, but I loaded the abandoned CM7 mod and Da_G's kernel for the Skyrocket S2 as some other people have used. Some issues...but its expected since it was abandoned in its alpha stage. I'll just be patiently waiting until CM9 rolls around .
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Who said CM9 is coming to this phone?
I got the phone today.. And all I can say is WOW!!
It's unreal!!
Whats touchwiz exactly ??
I rooted the phone first thing, but as of now, I'm not putting a rom into it.. I will just play with it as it is now..
I hate the fact though I cannot change the drawer task bar... The bottom buttons...
I don't use the stock messaging program (I use handcet) and I cannot remove it..
Sucks..
as for the speed..
Holy ****!!!
I cannot believe this glorified 3g system is this fast.. I guess it doesn't matter LTE, Wimax or what.. I'm getting download speeds of 20 down and 3-4 up..
Average.. lowest I've seen 5 down so far.
This thing is awesome!!

Touchwiz is the launcher. If you want to change your drawer apps go to your apps menu and hit the menu button them edit. Then just drag whatever you want to change in your dock.
And not to bust your bubbles, have you checked your display on low brightness in a dark room and noticed the blobs and vertical lines on your phone.? I'm pretty sure you'll begin to notice it very soon. Thought id give you a heads up. This is am overall bad ass phone except for that flaw.
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zander21510 said:
I tried darkside's ROM; and honestly I don't like touchwiz and I wasn't impressed by the rom because it still had samsung and T-mobile crap on it. Don't get me wrong its a great job with the kernel and I can tell that a lot of hard work went into it, but I'm not looking for just no bloat and system customization. I guess I'm spoiled coming from latest support and development for Cyanogenmod on my Nexus phones, but I loaded the abandoned CM7 mod and Da_G's kernel for the Skyrocket S2 as some other people have used. Some issues...but its expected since it was abandoned in its alpha stage. I'll just be patiently waiting until CM9 rolls around .
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You know you can just add the flag -notw to the Darkside file name and that will get rid of TouchWiz and most of the T-mobile/Samsung apps right? I'm guessing you didn't read the "flags" area in the first post of the DARKSIDE DIGITAL WARFARE thread.

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Touchwiz is the launcher. If you want to change your drawer apps go to your apps menu and hit the menu button them edit. Then just drag whatever you want to change in your dock.
And not to bust your bubbles, have you checked your display on low brightness in a dark room and noticed the blobs and vertical lines on your phone.? I'm pretty sure you'll begin to notice it very soon. Thought id give you a heads up. This is am overall bad ass phone except for that flaw.
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Went with my dad to get these phones today..
I went through about 3 of them, before I found two that had ZERO lines or issues..
I checked the best I could.. Went into the back room, which was dark and opened a bunch of dark pictures from the web..
I saw some lines on 3 of them.. before I found the next two that didn't look like they had them..
so if it does have them, its so minor, you will never be able to tell..
At least not enough that I have to TRY and see them..

[Q] Should I Install CM 10?

I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!

Not a good thread at all to start up man, just try them out and see for your self. Every one likes different things so it's kind of hard for us to just assume your needs... you know what I mean? Lots like both for different reasons, some always revert back to a stock rom some always go back to a cm rom.
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Leave it stock but rooted for the first few days to see what you think. Many think the extra features and that its stable and fast are worth staying stock based. Still a lot of others opt for cm or aokp regardless. Just give em both their fsir chance!
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flash the latest cm10 nightly. They work for Samsung and all
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Not a good thread at all to start up man, just try them out and see for your self. Every one likes different things so it's kind of hard for us to just assume your needs... you know what I mean? Lots like both for different reasons, some always revert back to a stock rom some always go back to a cm rom.
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That is why I didn't ask if I should flash CM 10 or not. I very simply asked what the differences were between stock and CM 10. I am wondering what features I will have with stock that I will lose with CM 10 and vice versa. That is a very fair question to ask of people who have already used both. I am trying to avoid trying both by going through a hassle and having to reinstall my programs and reconfigure my settings multiple times if I don't have to.

You lose all samsung stock features. That should be a no brainer. No motion activities, no smart stay (natively) no touchwiz, no wifi calling. Vanilla stock is what it always is, clean, no bloat, and super fast... what I said wasnt in any way being rude. It was exteremly truthful, and to the point.
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You lose all samsung stock features. That should be a no brainer. No motion activities, no smart stay (natively) no touchwiz, no wifi calling. Vanilla stock is what it always is, clean, no bloat, and super fast... what I said wasnt in any way being rude. It was exteremly truthful, and to the point.
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Wifi calling doesn't work on CM 10? I have been using it on CM 7 for my G2x.
So do you miss any of those Samsung features? I guess are they gimmicky or actually nice to have? From reviews, I have read that stock is really fast, so not sure if I gain speed by going to CM. Have you noticed speed improvements with CM 10 over stock?

I know but its so deeply integrated into framework and settings now its a pain. And no I personally don't miss those gimmicky features, but allot of people do. I stick to tw roms, because of battery. It always seems to last longer on stock based roms for me. Otherwise I prefer cm based roms. Lets just say I'll be moving to cm as soon as I feel it is closer to 100% in my eyes. Or the nexus 4 lol. And the only way I can feel it being 100% is by me testing it, not asking others. That's what I meant with my 1st post.
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I have to agree with mt3g here. AOSP ROMs are not the same as TW ROMs. I used TW for awhile when I first got my SGS3 and flashed pretty much all of them out there. I wasn't concerned with battery use, as I consider myself a battery expert. I was more interested in performance and features that were exclusive to TW and AOSP. They are so different that the only way to really get to know each other is to test drive them yourself.
Now I am on LiquidSmooth (AOSP base) and I love it. I am getting massive battery life, have tethering (I thethered my tablet to is almost all day yesterday after a bad flash [on the tablet not the phone]), Theme chooser springs a bit of life back into the eyecandy part. <--sometimes people flash not bc they want a new ROM but a new look .
Will I go back to TW? Sure. I tested Doc's ROM before he released it and I like it plenty enough to run it as a daily driver. But this is XDA and what are here for?
What do we want? A custom ROM
When do we want it? NO ETAs!!!! :cyclops:

Woodrube said:
I have to agree with mt3g here. AOSP ROMs are not the same as TW ROMs. I used TW for awhile when I first got my SGS3 and flashed pretty much all of them out there. I wasn't concerned with battery use, as I consider myself a battery expert. I was more interested in performance and features that were exclusive to TW and AOSP. They are so different that the only way to really get to know each other is to test drive them yourself.
Now I am on LiquidSmooth (AOSP base) and I love it. I am getting massive battery life, have tethering (I thethered my tablet to is almost all day yesterday after a bad flash [on the tablet not the phone]), Theme chooser springs a bit of life back into the eyecandy part. <--sometimes people flash not bc they want a new ROM but a new look .
Will I go back to TW? Sure. I tested Doc's ROM before he released it and I like it plenty enough to run it as a daily driver. But this is XDA and what are here for?
What do we want? A custom ROM
When do we want it? NO ETAs!!!! :cyclops:
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Very well said. :good:
I personally never ever ran a touchwiz or sense ROMs on any device I've ever owned for more than a day. I just missed the full control cm ROMs give. Ever since my HD2 I've ran cm7 up to cm10 on my s3. I really never notice the features being lost from a tw ROM mostly because I don't use them. Never really thought their "advertised" features were all that.
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I am running on a CM10 based rom and the only stock Samsung feature I miss is the Smart Stay. Everything else was just too gimmicky

Pretty sure there is an app for most of the samsung features.
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I stuck to stock ICS TW for a couple of days and I didn't enjoy it.
It just seemed too much and I wanted a closer to stock experience.
Made the switch to CM10. Greatest thing ever.
It's simple, effective, and works in pretty much every way that I would like.
The only thing that I miss from TW is the Messaging app.

jimbo831 said:
I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!
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Do you use Skype, Vox, or any other VOIP app? If you do, then don't flash CM10, AOKP or any other AOSP based rom.

sovereignty68 said:
Do you use Skype, Vox, or any other VOIP app? If you do, then don't flash CM10, AOKP or any other AOSP based rom.
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May I know why? I'm right now with the Galaxy SI and on CM10, hoping to get the S3 and on the same dilemma. Right now my Skype works well on the CM10, Viber works only on speaker phone.

Having tried cm 10/aokp as well as TW ROMs for extended periods of time, I can say the following:
Although at first missing a certain TW feature might seem like a drawback- the feeling comes from what you're used to, and after a few days or week you will likely forget those features which you previously had which you thought were so important. For me the TW calendar (s Planner) was the big thing I was missing- since for a while I really couldn't find a good substitute which looked as good and performed as well! Finally I found one, so now I don't even compare anymore, but even if I hadn't found a substitute I'm sure I would have moved on at some point.
Point is, base your choice on the majority of the benefits that you'll get from the respective ROM. Personally, I like aokp/cm10 precisely because of its overall simplistic aesthetic ( I'm in love with the native jelly bean fonts used in the notification bar) and its native ability to theme. In terms of performance and extra tweaks, there are plenty of custom TW ROMs which are on par with the aosp ones (IMO). So I think it comes down to the overall feel/look, and pure personal preference.
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jimbo831 said:
I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!
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you will lose wifi calling, you will lose the ability to upload music straight from the music player to drop box, you will lose your mind, however, once you run a JB ROM and use google now for the first time, and you will go ape over the amount of customization available to cm10 users.
honestly, used "stock" for about 3 weeks when i first got my device back in july, flashed cm10, and never looked back. words cannot describe how amazing and feature-packed a cm10 ROM is...
flash hellfire 1.3 (if you don't mind the red), and give slim bean a shot if you don't want the red. I have had nothing but positive results with those two.
also, follow my guide in this section for the flashing process.
good luck.

WiFi calling
For me WiFi calling is the biggest feature, and extremely important. I don't have T-Mobile signal in my lab, where I spend most of the time and WiFi calling is the only hope. This is why I'm staying with the stock for now.
But if anyone can show me a way to get WiFi calling on CM10, I will be really thankful. Hate the stock rom from the bottom of my heart!!
-Thanks

The camera on cm10 is whats holding me back but once they come out with cm10.1 based on JB 4.2 then i think ill root and rom my phone.
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Note 2 - How's the ROM scene?

I'm coming from the S3 where the ROM scene is frankly quite pathetic, though it's steadily improving.
How's it with the note 2? Are there any major bugs with the popular ROMs? And how's the S-Pen support in custom ROMs?
Thanks a lot!

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I'm coming from the S3 where the ROM scene is frankly quite pathetic, though it's steadily improving.
How's it with the note 2? Are there any major bugs with the popular ROMs? And how's the S-Pen support in custom ROMs?
Thanks a lot!
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I'm new here at GN2 forums (ignore the post count, I've been lurking since 2011), but I just recently came over from GN1.
I'm guessing the architecture isn't vastly different, as I saw plenty of features ported to the GN1 from the GN2 back when I was there. So far what I have observed is that there are fewer ROMS here, this is owed to the phone being newer. Also, the roms being cooked here seem relatively stable with a lot less bricking.
As for recurring problems, let's hope some veterans can chime in on that, but I haven't noticed anything major (wifi works, no sudden dials etc). All in all it feels like a very fresh scene with ever-improving innovations, not even a year old so what can we expect right. Your have a GN2 or you just curious?

I'm taking a guess and saying it's even worse here regarding "movement". There's not much left to do, anyway. It would be lovely to have proper phablet interface support in stock-based ROMs, but... Well, it's pretty much "stable" here. Maybe It'll change for a couple of weeks after we get our hands in the official 4.2 ROMs due to next month.
No major bugs. In a few, there's one obscure Wifi-to-gadget or another that no one uses that doesn't work, but it depends on the baserom it is using - you see, Samsung's original comes with those bugs. In AOSP, you should expect a little worse battery life, since we don't have Exynos's sources. But they are still pretty nice.
S-pen is supposed to work with all Stock-based ROMs. There's a nice little app called S-pen Helper if you are not using the stock Launcher, but I don't remember right now if it works with an AOSP-based ROM.
It's a somewhat boring scene here, but we have all of the must-have stuff, like less-bloaty Stock, a few ROMs (many of them based on S3's work, by the way), CM, a few KANGs, and ParanoidAndroid. I had more fun testing stuff with my long dead Motorola Defy.

ok both GN2 and GSIII have the same hardware, so the most important thing in development in my opinion is the kernel development, and here you can have whatever you have with gs3 kerenel, and and about roms, i think you also can have the same experience, keep in mind that what above posters said that there are no more things to do now incase of stock roms, and aosp, only we are waiting a strong build of tablet/phaplet rom without lags (there are good ones out there but needs minor improvements), so i think you will be fine here, the only one thing that may be slow here is porting other OS, it will be faster incase of SG3,

How can you say the scene i pathetic??? Build your own Rom and then say something. You all need to learnd to appreciate other peoples work.
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I would say it's more than decent. Sheer volume might not be mind blowing - but we have stable AOSP ROMs, plenty of excellent touchwiz ROMs, etc. - so yeah. Major touchwiz ROMs are near bug free - and AOSP ROMs have some minor bugs like with Camera etc. IIRC - other than that it's all fine.

It's worse than the S3 yet it hardly matters. This phone is a beast out of the box. Many users are happy to run a rooted stock rom with the xposed and/or simplistic frameworks installed. I am one of those people.
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This is even worse than " what's the best rom" threads.. guys s3 forums are probably the best forums on xda due to developers interest. . note 2 forums are great too we have some of the best devs out there so please learn to show some respect
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Hahaha.
A stock, unrooted Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is better than a custom ROM based Samsung Galaxy S3 actually.
Just an opinion.

Simone said:
Hahaha.
A stock, unrooted Samsung Galaxy Note 2 is better than a custom ROM based Samsung Galaxy S3 actually.
Just an opinion.
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Couldn't agree more tbh. Obviously it's tenfold better if you're rooted with custom kernel - but stock was absolutely fine for most parts on Note II.

I'm pure stock and it's a beast. Waiting for 4.2.2 and thats it. This is the first phone that I didn't touch i any way.
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gvpula said:
I'm pure stock and it's a beast. Waiting for 4.2.2 and thats it. This is the first phone that I didn't touch i any way.
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Yeah same 4 me. Just root
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Thread closed for 2 reasons:
1. Its a best ROM thread.
2. Would it kill you to look in the Android Development forum if you wanted to know what development was like? I think my IQ dropped by 20 points just by reading the first page of this thread.

Worth it?

Is it really worth flashing a custom rom? In terms of speed, features and batt life?
Additional question:
Howcome when I do voice search in google it doesn't show me the cards? Instead it only go straight to search results.
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Justinhopaolo said:
Is it really worth flashing a custom rom? In terms of speed, features and batt life?
Additional question:
Howcome when I do voice search in google it doesn't show me the cards? Instead it only go straight to search results.
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for now atleast I personally I repeat ONLY my personal opinion I have tried other ROMs but I just end up using original Samsung stock but rooted though and using perseus kernel!! as other ROMs for me were just not 100% perfect but in sure many people here would prefer the custom ROMs..my phone hasn't slowed down an inch !! a quad core processor + 2GB RAM why should I get worried anyway!! battery can last upto 2 days with minimal use though..if you want to try out other ROMs try them or check them out on YouTube before you commit yourself as you will have some good idea about the ROM
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Justinhopaolo said:
Is it really worth flashing a custom rom? In terms of speed, features and batt life?
Additional question:
Howcome when I do voice search in google it doesn't show me the cards? Instead it only go straight to search results.
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for me i was on latest mg1 on and it has worst battery life and doesnot have some tweaks i want like sound controls,ignore unstable charging etc,so i decided to switch to wannamlite 3.9 and i thoroughly enjoy it,it has noticeably better smoothness and battery,i tried various custom roms but i always come back to wannamlite

I had Nexus 4 and I have tried many custom roms,
Eventually there isn't a big difference in your day to day use, now and then you can find a few cool feature - but nothing you can't live without.
For me, the main attraction in custom roms is having latest Android version.
I would recommend you stay put, after a few modification like canceling animation and launchers - you will have a great android experience with Stock note 2.

I prefer Samsung's tweaks with the SPen and multitasking. I tried some other ROMs on other devices, but on the Note 2, I prefer a rooted phone running the stock ROM.
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I tried other stuff too. Now I'm back on stock. I thought I'd try it unrooted for a while and see what I thought.
That was 3 months ago, and I still haven't felt the need to root.
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We don't, imo, have a great selection of roms for our phone and I dont think any rom will be as stable as stock.
Root is pretty important but, unlike other phones I've had, I don't think custom roms are as necessary.
With all that said I do like my Jedi custom Rom lol
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For me, it is worth it. I like the different options and customizations provided. Battery life is a hit and miss and depends a lot in the user of course. Though I keep switching between stocks and custom, I personally prefer custom rooms over stock rom.

For me its a big YES..customization, tweaks, root apps are boon for Android users!
I love using phone in 240dpi..moreover 240dpi looks awesome for our giant note 2 screen.
Secondly, access to root apps like titanium backup , supersu, root toolbox and more..
Third-rid of all bloatware
There are alot to be mentioned..its endless.
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for many xda is like a second home....if you are here you need to root
and flash
android is a beautiful language to learn

Of course! My note 2 had drastically slowed down on stock! To such a level that it was taking a good 5 seconds to open the dialer! It was too slow to switch between apps!
But once I switched to a custom Rom, it was lightning fast! And the abundance of customizations! It's just awesome! I'm on probam.. check it out! It's got all the goodies of all the top roms available!
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Absolutely - I would highly recommend at least rooting and flashing kernel like RedPill. It certainly improves battery life, and gives you calibrated screen (seriously, you don't know what the hell you are missing, because Samsung Calibration is horrible), has option to amplify headphone volume, and gives you better sound quality etc. And also many other useful apps need rooted phone.
ARHD is apparently smooth for many people. There are plenty of other ROMs like Project AOSP (AOSP look and feel), X Note (floating multiwindow) etc. Battery life should be awesome too.

I've tried plenty of roms on this phone and my experience has been that none of them offer much benefit over rooted stock in conjunction with the xposed framework. Battery life is great as is reliability. Sometimes those customs will have a funky bug which went rear it's head until the worst time.
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My Note 2 was pretty slow on stock. Huge lag on lockscreen, unlock and lags all over the place.
Installing Nova Launcher and a custom lockscreen did help quite a bit, but it still left a bit to be desired.
Now I'm on Phoenix Rom and it seems much better. Battery life is much improved as well. And perhaps most importantly, I got rid of most of the ungodly TouchWiz ugliness in the process! The default 320 dpi is ridiculous for me! Huge menus occupying most of the precious screen estate. With 240 the phone is much more productive and everything just looks better and sharper.
So for me it was definately worth it!
Though with root, Xposed and custom skinning you can achieve quite a lot already. But root and Xposed are pretty much mandatory.

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For me, it is worth it. I like the different options and customizations provided. Battery life is a hit and miss and depends a lot in the user of course. Though I keep switching between stocks and custom, I personally prefer custom rooms over stock rom.
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Im not sure how true it is but I heard battery life is more dependant on the kernel. I'm using saber kernel and am getting a screen off loss per hour of 1%. I've never had it that Good before
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[Q] Poll: Are you glad you updated to 4.4.2 or regret not stiaying with 4.3 longer?

Hey guys, the poll is intended for those who have already flashed the 4.4.2 bootloader already, but comments from anyone on the subject are welcome. Overall, are you glad that you upgraded, or do you wish that you held off until the custom ROMs were a bit more mature? What specific advantages / disadvantages are you seeing vs. 4.3 and what Kit Kat ROM are kernel are you running?
I really like my current combo of Tweaked 4.3, the last Saber kernel, topped off with Wally's Paperkut theme. However, I've been seeing an increasing amount of appealing 4.4.2 ROMs and have been thinking about crossing the point (bootloader) of no return. I've also been seeing a big drop in the amount of complaints about the update, so it appears that most kinks are being irroned out.
So what do you all think? I should note that I'm super-dependent on wifi calling, so I'm limited to the T-mobile base, unfortunately. Some emphasis on NB4 based ROMs would be cool, but feel free to share any T-mobile Note 3 update experience.

I haven't seen any difference ... I will have to google to see what "features" I gained. I didn't like the ability to not be able to write to the SD card, but that's been fixed. And yes, finding a custom ROM isn't the easiest task ever!

I waited until the easy upgrade, root, sd card fix was out, and then did it. I'm super happy I did. The phone overall runs smoother, and takes less resources thanks to the KK OS. The only real thing I noticed was the all white icons, and the rounded toast notifications. I'm happy with the stock ROM since I use a lot of Samsung/TW apps especially the Hub, TV remote, and WhatsOn app, so I'm not looking for an alternate ROM, and plus I also use Xposed to get any features I want/need that the stock ROM doesn't have, so yeah, it's been a great upgrade for me.

I guess upgrade is better than no upgrade. I just didn't like the fact that to root is to trigger the stupid Knox warranty with kkos. But I can not go a full day with an unrooted phone so I root Knox can kiss me bye.
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Thanks for all of the feedback. I'm definitely glad I've held off on flashing 4.4.2. I just noticed that Jedi has been bumped up to 1.1, so I'm reading through the thread and might end up Odin-ing up to Kit Kat, or might continue to wait. I've never tried a Jedi ROM, but have found Saber kernel to run best on my device, so I'm kind of tempted to check it out for a while until Tweaked 4.4.2 is released.
Wish there was a way to import my Apex Pro homescreens across ROMs. I think that might be added to Nandroid Manager Pro, but isn't there yet... takes me forever to set up my screens, which is kind of a deterrent in itself from upgrading.
Anyways, any more experience with custom ROMs? Thanks again for the feedback so far.

Voted against, battery life took a dumpsky.

Forgot to mention, what a disappointment that the rounder toasts are the only visual difference. I actually use an Xposed module that backports the new toast style because I like it better. I think it's more congruent with my theme, Paperkut by Wally. I really dig his Kit Kat theme so I actually would have some visual differences but that's really lame as far as the stock update is concerned.

jazzmachine said:
Forgot to mention, what a disappointment that the rounder toasts are the only visual difference. I actually use an Xposed module that backports the new toast style because I like it better. I think it's more congruent with my theme, Paperkut by Wally. I really dig his Kit Kat theme so I actually would have some visual differences but that's really lame as far as the stock update is concerned.
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I regret it a lot!
My battery drains a lot faster than before.
Anyone else experiencing that kind of issue?

After spending two weeks of troubleshooting hell with 3 different note 3s from T-Mobile all due to kitkat crap, guess my answer?

I love it, battery life is insanely doubled.. Just need more tmobile roms to choose from.. Running International right now
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Simple upgrade, no real problems so far.