Should I rooot??? - T-Mobile Samsung Galaxy Note II

Hi people, long time xda member and rooter here. Been rooting phones since original G1 on tmobile. But new to samsung high end note 2. Anyway, with no real performance issues on this beast and results like this I was curious as to if rooting would be worth it. What are your thoughts. Some note 2 users say to leave it stock.
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For me, the only reason to root a phone is to get it to do something it doesnt already do. Ask yourself does your phone do everything u need it to do? Is it fast enough for you? Its pointless to ask other people because everyone uses their device differently so everyones opinion is different.

personally i wouldn't. i tried different roms including the all mighty jedi and there was something not right. The stock feel was not there. i love the stock rom, i'm using xona kernel and stock rom which seems to give me such great battery life.

I am surprised that someone claiming to be experienced as you would ask this question.
As said above: You have to ask yourself this question and other questions. Like: Why do you want to root? What am I going to do that needs root? Is root worth it to me?
When it comes to device performance and battery performance improvements with root, it all depends on what you do after rooting. There are some roms that some claim to improve performance. You can freeze or uninstall preinstall apps. Some believe thay improves performance. You can manage background processes, which I feel yields the greatest improvement in performance. All of these need root.
There may be few apps that may help on performance. You can tweak the device for better performance. Don't always need root for these. Needing root or not depends on the app/s and/or tweak/s used.
You can always improve on the performance of any device, including Galaxy Note 2, and battery performance through methods that need root and methods that don't need root. So this question doesn't make sense.
This is more about your knowledge and experience rather than if root will improve performance or not.
Fyi - You should ask the right questions if you want to get the answers that you are looking for.
Summary of Devices
Device: Samsung Galaxy Note 2 (SGH-T889)
Android Version: 4.1.1 Jelly Bean
Build: JRO03C.T889UVALL4 (Rooted)
Root Method: mrRobinson injected root stock rom
Superuser: SuperSu Pro v1.0
Busybox: Busybox v1.20.2
Device: Motorola DROID X
Android Version: 2.3.3 Gingerbread
Build: 4.5.605.Accurate_Battery (Rooted)

Point taken. I was just putting it out there because I've read some conflicting statements that say note 2 roms were buggy and it was best left stock but wasn't sure yet. Like I said I always rooted before and reeped the rewards but never had a phone this awesome before. Thanks for input anyway
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Stock roms suck battery life and rooted roms rule. Got rid of all the t mobile stuff running my phone down. Just a great thing this root is. I will never go stock again.
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Point taken. I was just putting it out there because I've read some conflicting statements that say note 2 roms were buggy and it was best left stock but wasn't sure yet. Like I said I always rooted before and reeped the rewards but never had a phone this awesome before. Thanks for input anyway
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Generally, starting out, every phone is "buggy" when it comes to custom development.
So far, as development for this device is updated hourly, when it comes to rooting I would ask myself
Does being "up-to-date" really matter? (ie - if no carrier of GNII offers 4.2 or higher, and custom rom flashing is the only way to get to that higher version, then rooting is the only way)
Is AOSP, etc, that much better than GNII's version of TouchWiz?
Is Allshare a deal breaker? I say this because, as of now i dont think there is any viable way to run allshare with a custom recovery/kernal installed (or at least options will be limited)
In summary, stock is what it is, and at least for GNII owners this means GREAT... However, custom does allow you to upgrade your phone without waiting for the carrier to release anything! If nothing else, at least with rooted-stock you Will Not lose any stock functionality (not even allshare)... As you probably already know, at least with root you can back up apps/data etc and in rare cases (like with the Huawei M886 where the carrier sent out a OTA that bricked many devices) you at least won't have to worry about anything bricking your phone
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Well I would root if I were u... After a while I need the Note II to be a little faster so i rooted then re formated my 64gig SD card and then flashed a different kernel to allow me to over clock the processor...I was actually surprised how much faster the phone moved opening different apps and so fourth. ROOT MY FRIEND
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I'm keeping it stock, if anything I'll root it just to install titanium and have the ability to tether. But still run it fairly stock but delete tmobile bloatware.

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I'm keeping it stock, if anything I'll root it just to install titanium and have the ability to tether. But still run it fairly stock but delete tmobile bloatware.
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how can you tether after root and stock firmware?

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how can you tether after root and stock firmware?
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I have the same question. I would like to tether my connection to my tablet while keeping my SN2 rooted and stock
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I'll give the 100% best answer here even though someone else will still give their own answer or shoot mine down, lol. 1st, Even though there is no reason to, i overclock my note 2 to 1.92ghz, but like i said there is no reason because you can still tell no difference at all just by overclocking. 2nd, With being rooted you can remove all the crapware in your phone while leaving all the amazing things in your phone you bought it for, say things like the worthless yahoo news and yahoo news daemon and yahoo stocks and yahoo stocks daemon, all junk, there is so much stuff to remove from this phone it's sickening, before rooting my phone constantly used 1.4gb of ram at almost all times, now it uses 492, yes exactly around 492mb's at all times and this is with max home screens all filled with widgets. And yes, with the Jedi rom which i consider the best, your phone will actually run smoother and faster and it is something you will be able to feel and not just feel it in your thoughts like some kind of placebo. But 3rd, right now the biggest and main reason people will root their phone is to make it look how they want, along with also adding in part of the 2nd which is removing the crapware making it the biggest reason to root. I have been able to get into all my phones software,change all the colors from overscroll glow to the backgrounds in every single settings menu and love the way it looks. Look up all the mods to the way you can make certain widgets transparent, change the colors of things like the multi window app menu, use every singe app in multi window which you cant do stock, and see if you like how this will make your phone look and function. But again, a custom rom only, wont make your phone run faster, due to the fact most have so much of their own stuff added in which will take the place of the crapware installed in the phone making it run and feel the same, unlike with the Jedi Rom where you can actually feel the difference, make your phone look nicer and more crisp with different colors and transparent mods, and most importantly, like even without a custom rom and just rooting, remove all the crapware. Like alot of phones out there, most do this to overclock the cpu/gpu, but in this phones case it is not needed due to the fact it runs faster than some peoples computers as is, so you will definetly be rooting your phone for internal cosmetic reasons, and improving speed by removing again, the crapware,lol. It took me almost 3 months to decide to finally root my phone, and when i finally got done with the 5mn process, i was actually like wow, i cant believe i didnt do this in the 1st place and thought about it every day for all this time, and wasted 90 days on a 5mn process,lol.

So are you going to root ??
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MikeYuse0406 said:
I have the same question. I would like to tether my connection to my tablet while keeping my SN2 rooted and stock
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Too be honest, I'm not sure, but rooting opens up options. I used to Bluetooth tether my note 10.1 to my nexus 4, but haven't found the need to yet, after getting the gn2.
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Well, I did root and I'm glad I did. Instant results were immediate. Speed, improved bartery, and tweaks were just some of biggest reasons I see as why to do it. Using jedi x11 and my phone flys like a g6. Lol
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mrbkkt1 said:
Too be honest, I'm not sure, but rooting opens up options. I used to Bluetooth tether my note 10.1 to my nexus 4, but haven't found the need to yet, after getting the gn2.
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I use trevee mod.. works great

eurohomie said:
I use trevee mod.. works great
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Which mod is that? Can you WiFi tether on stock?
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Any real advantage to rooting at this point? Or what for more roms?

Seems like for the T-mobile GS3 there are only a couple of roms, is there any real advantage to rooting at this point or would you wait?
So far, I kind of like the stock rom, s-voice, motion, etc... I wish the 4G were faster, but I don't know if a new rom or build.prop tweaks would really do anything for this.
There's really not many roms yet because the phone hasn't been out that long.
The goodies are yet to come, but at the moment the main reason to root is to remove all the bloat on the phone.
Personally I'm waiting till my return days expire before I start messing with my phone in case I have to return which I might because I really want the white.
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I had a white iPhone 3gs before. I think the white is cool but kind of girly...
I really like my blue one, though I didn't have a choice on color because I bought mine from someone instead of extending my contract.
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With gingerbread and especially ics stock roms have gotten a lot better. I still use root for other things like adfree, wifi tether, titanium backup and root explorer for changing some system stuff.
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dls5375 said:
With gingerbread and especially ics stock roms have gotten a lot better. I still use root for other things like adfree, wifi tether, titanium backup and root explorer for changing some system stuff.
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Adfree and wifi tether are the obvious reasons. I usually stick with stock builds with root for those two capabilities. I used to care a lot about being able to use root explorer to remove bloatware, but that was on the Evo OG that had tons of sprint bloant and tiny internal storage. I was constantly having to choose between having apps that didn't support app2sd or having enough free memory for the phone to perform. That whole issue is gone with this phone. I've barely touched the internal storage (though I have pretty much maxed my 16GB microsdhc card, I'm going to have to get a 64GB one to handle all the music/films/podcasts I keep on external storage.
Araltd said:
Seems like for the T-mobile GS3 there are only a couple of roms, is there any real advantage to rooting at this point or would you wait?
So far, I kind of like the stock rom, s-voice, motion, etc... I wish the 4G were faster, but I don't know if a new rom or build.prop tweaks would really do anything for this.
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I used to be flash maniac on my phones but with sg3 i left all behind. Even with all these bloats and sh!t i just do not feel the need to root and flash. God bless samsung! I was lost but now i am found.
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ThC23 said:
There's really not many roms yet because the phone hasn't been out that long.
The goodies are yet to come, but at the moment the main reason to root is to remove all the bloat on the phone.
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How do I remove the bloatware? I just rooted this past weekend.
The three main reasons I have rooted my devices are rather simple:
Titanium Backup (Being able to backup ANYTHING is a must and should have been standard imo).
WiFi Tether - Stupid that carriers offer unlimited data (Well sprint does) or even limited, yet then even further tell you HOW you can access that data... Sure it can be abused, but there's no reason they should limit it if you've already paid for set megs/month..
Lastly.. Root Explorer..
I use it mostly so i can add ringtones and images directly to the phones standard media folder, in case I swap out SD cards or such.. This isn't so much a big deal anymore with internal memory being standard.. but coming from an OG Evo it was a necessity. With my new S3.. not so much here
I just got the S3 today I am going to use my skyrocket fulltime still because cm9 kicks major ass and make my skyrocket tick at 1.8Ghz but this S3 is beastly with the 2GB ram I fly through everything but I am going to root it after th 14 days and remove all of the crap I dont want but I get why some people dont really wanna flash anything yet ICS is very fluid on the device and the hardware is off the charts especially with Jelly bean out once it gets ported that new OS will use more resources its natural because as it gets better it has to use more space and having 2GB Ram will help......ofcourse if CM9 or CM 10 or whatever its called is released it will be on my phone a soon as its available......
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How do I remove the bloatware? I just rooted this past weekend.
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I use Titanium Backup for that. They have a free and paid version.
The free one will allow you to freeze- meaning they will disappear, but not really un install from the device. You won't see them in the app drawer or delete them if you wish.
If you're a flash addict then the paid version is the way to go because it helps you restore all your apps that are backed up with a push of a button after every rom you flash.
Saves a lot of time rather than restoring them one by one, especially if you have a bunch.
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honestly, i might not flash a custom ROM on the S3. i used to flash ROMs like crazy on my Skyrocket, but i am actually very pleased with the S3. i am waiting for someone to make a ROM without all the AT&T crap, keep S Voice, and get a little better battery life though lol.
I'd say there are advantages such as root apps and debloated ROMs...which are better for battery and speed.
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I'd say there are advantages such as root apps and debloated ROMs...which are better for battery and speed.
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That is very true, but this phone out the box is pretty good on both categories.
So to me, it's not that important right now.
Usually I root and flash something within the first few days, but I really don't have an urge to at the moment.
I'm happy with the phone right now as it stands. Even with all the bloat.
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ThC23 said:
That is very true, but this phone out the box is pretty good on both categories.
So to me, it's not that important right now.
Usually I root and flash something within the first few days, but I really don't have an urge to at the moment.
I'm happy with the phone right now as it stands. Even with all the bloat.
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Exactly how I feal. Ive always rooted and romd pretty much right away for the speed, battery life, and features of custom roms.
Speed: seriously can you get any faster than instant and smooth as butter?
Battery Life: Im getting 4.5-5 hours of screen on time on each charge which is amazing compared to most phones so Im just now getting used to that lol. I know roms can even improve me on that but I dont need it right now.
Features: this phone stock is crammed with features.
I will be rooted before long for root apps and akop when it comes though
My other phone is an iPhone 4. And the battery on that phone is insane! And the gs3 is pretty darn good. I'm a heavy use phone guy, and i have only had to recharge this phone once during the day. Now at night (end of day) the battery is in the low teens but it's still on
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On my first gs3 I rooted it and had major software problems. Not only did wallet not work, but it seem to brick my nfc and no matter what I did I couldn't get it to work. I got it replaced which is good but I don't want to risk it again. This phone is amazing out of the box. I think when asop becomes available ill probably give it another shot. I wanna see what LTE is like too when it comes to Dallas
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Free gs3 release 3 is a big improvement over stock
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Free gs3 release 3 is a big improvement over stock
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Why?
Araltd said:
Why?
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Just to name a few off the top of my head... I know there is many more reasons.
Bloat free.
Smoother
No Carrier iq
Improved Battery life
1.89 oc
No adds (add free)
Free tethering
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I just rooted mine...Sprint. I got it 5 hrs ago and I couldn't stand the bloatware staring me in my face.. I also hate ads, so adfree is next to get installed on my phone. Plus i like to control whats on my phone and how it acts. All n all, this phone is awesome, I see no need for a ROM at this time, and i don't think OC is in the cards because this thing is fast. I have all these paid apps that were on my epic 4g that require root to run. i paid for them, so i'm gonna use em.

Are you still rooting and using roms

I've been doing all that stuff on the last three phones that I've had ( Droid x, Droid 3, galaxy nexus) and I've done if for fun never because I had to do to something I didn't like about the phone. Now that I have at&t s3 I've not had the urge to do it. As of now I am on a rom but really thinking about going back to stock. I had to try out cm10 which was cool. But I think I finnaly have a phone that I feel is very good at giving me what I want. The other phones it just felt better on roms. This phone runs the smoothest and is the fastest one I've ever had, even the battery is great. Roms are fun but I got a little tired of all the setting up I had to do after downloading. Still kinda fun but I find myself putting on a rom then not being blown away with it like I used to be. I think the sg3 is that good of a phone. I would like to know if some of you feel the same way with this phone. I do think that I'm going to go back to stock and unroot as well. But the cool thing is that its easy to root again if something comes out that I've got to have. I kinda feel that there are a lot of people that have rooted other phones before but are not doing it now. I could be wrong I just don' see as many threads about it, at least not on other forums. Granted that this forum is mostly about roms.
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I'll be using aokp as soon as it's ready. As for now I am quite content to wait for stability on stock.
-Hai guise I haz problems on the pre-alpha release and I don't know why.
Yea rooted stock flies! By far the best TouchWiz has ever been on any device! I like aosp but its not quite ready for daily driving.
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I've been doing all that stuff on the last three phones that I've had ( Droid x, Droid 3, galaxy nexus) and I've done if for fun never because I had to do to something I didn't like about the phone. Now that I have at&t s3 I've not had the urge to do it. As of now I am on a rom but really thinking about going back to stock. I had to try out cm10 which was cool. But I think I finnaly have a phone that I feel is very good at giving me what I want. The other phones it just felt better on roms. This phone runs the smoothest and is the fastest one I've ever had, even the battery is great. Roms are fun but I got a little tired of all the setting up I had to do after downloading. Still kinda fun but I find myself putting on a rom then not being blown away with it like I used to be. I think the sg3 is that good of a phone. I would like to know if some of you feel the same way with this phone. I do think that I'm going to go back to stock and unroot as well. But the cool thing is that its easy to root again if something comes out that I've got to have. I kinda feel that there are a lot of people that have rooted other phones before but are not doing it now. I could be wrong I just don' see as many threads about it, at least not on other forums. Granted that this forum is mostly about roms.
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Though I will probably try CM10, I actually have not even thought twice about changing ROMs with this phone. I've been happy with what I have, and it is as smooth as I could want. But ... who knows, that may change once CM10 becomes completely stable.
I was in the same boat - I couldn't stop flashing new roms and tinkering with my old android phones (DX, Inc., Thunderbolt)
Samsung did a great job with this device and touch wiz. I don't feel cyanogen is really necessary anymore. I will stay rooted because I want to. I don't like the adware that is involved from carriers plus carrier iq is horrible. Cyanogen and aokp were cool for older phones because they added features phones didn't have. But these days with the features and capabilities of phones these days. I think they are more for the minimalist. The I have had my phone using 1.6 gigs of my team and there was this no issue. I can say I agree that this phone hit the nail on the head. Good to see other people agree
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Stock & unrooted - I'm satisfied at this point. It'll take one awesome Rom to get me to flash this puppy.
GS3
But I honestly think root is necessary. But mostly because I like my rooted apps.
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I'd like to flash a rom eventually, but I'm scared of losing IMEI hahaha
honestly though, stock rooted is pretty much the way to go. I love AOSP based roms on my past phones, but I've always hated the android camera app, so I may be sticking to stock rom for a while. Jelly bean anyone?
I've decided to keep root just in case. Tw is a lot better then it was when I had the vibrant. Not perfect, but neither was stock on the gnex. I'm really curious what jb well be like with tw. So I say good job Samsung on making a phone that you can say does or almost doesn't need a rom. I would like to see a jb tw rom. I would try that out for sure.
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This phone has really curbed my flashaholism. Although I do get the urge at times and tried cm10 and aokp. However at the moment this phone is great how it is. I just wish I didn't sell my sgs2 and could just flash that when the mood strikes
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I don't want to lose the functionality of the phone suck as motion and what not, so until there is a fully function Jelly Bean ROM with all the camera functions, I will stay stock. I may root just to back up and use certain root apps.
i'm using CM10, but at this point i'm scared to even flash back to stock, because i DO miss the Touchwiz features with the gestures and all, but don't wanna end up losing my IMEI and all, especially since noone has completely pinned down exactly WHAT causes it to happen.... i'll stick with CM10, and then i'll take my chances flashing back to stock and adding a ROM once official JellyBean has been released for the GSIII, so i have JellyBean PLUS the Touchwiz features.
I feel is good and all I didn't flash rooms for two weeks after I got it, but now I'm rooted I dk I just like aokp and cm9 theme manager probably the biggest reasons I'm running aokp stock rom is not bad just the bloatware kills it
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Aftashok said:
i'm using CM10, but at this point i'm scared to even flash back to stock, because i DO miss the Touchwiz features with the gestures and all, but don't wanna end up losing my IMEI and all, especially since noone has completely pinned down exactly WHAT causes it to happen.... i'll stick with CM10
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I've restored stock nandroid backups from CM10, CM9 and AOKP about 10 times. I really think the IMEI thing was overblown / made worse by human error. I wouldn't worry about it.
Anyway, it was interesting to see the AOSP progress, but they are a long way from matching the stability, speed and features of a properly de-bloated stock ROM.
I gotta agree with the majority here.
I too was a "flashaholic" when I had my evo.
No that I upgraded and I'm using a Samsung s3 for the first time I feel little need to root. There are a few apps I would like that requires root which would be the general reason why I would root.
The stock Rom is great for me as well.
Another reason why I held back rooting is the problem with losing mei/imei for the phone. I don't think it's over blown, especially when you read most of the people's comments who have lost there's and some of them aren't newbs.
Anyways Samsung did a pretty good job to curb my flashing habits.
Oh, there's only one Rom if I were to flash that I would want....paranoid android Rom.
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Whatever floats your boat. It's your expensive phone. I'm rocking jellybean, here
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I would have to agree. Stock rom is quite smooth (though I like some of the animations some roms used). I tried a couple roms, and they were nice, but I just missed some key features from stock. I am rooted on stock though, as there are some apps I really need/want.
Once cm10 is more stable and/or they make a dual boot kernel similar to the one for the sprint sgs3, then I will switch over. For the time being though, stock is amazing and I will probably stick with it for a bit.
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ive had some issues with touchwiz fc on me nd ive never rooted... im running apex now nd i love it... no immediate plans to flash.. like one user said its gonna take one hell of a rom to get me to go thru the rooting process. This phone is solid straight from Sammy... sound is awesome, speed is awesome, gps locks within 2 SECONDS INDOORS!!!!! ... Not but a handful of things that could be improved upon but not worth flashing to me...
I'm just ready for MIUI. What CM9 wishes it could be.
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I agree...I've had many android devices and each one I tinkered and rooted. For some reason I'm not too interested in rooting and flashing ROMS. Partly maybe because of the IMEI issue, but even before that came up, I was content with this TWiz. And I don't like TWiz, I'm more a Sense fan.
I say, good job Samsung!!
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Is everyone rooted?

Ive had this phone for 2 weeks and unlike other phones where i rooted right away i dont knowh ow important it is to the enjoyment of the phone to have it rooted besides maybe titanium. Is the battery life better? Is it mainly just for bloatware? Thanks for any input
i rooted mine but just wanted to swap my internal and external really
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i rooted mine but just wanted to swap my internal and external really
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May I ask wether you have lost any functionalty since rooting? From what I have read here some things no not work and some things work worse than they did before rooting. I think this phone is fast enough with bloatware. I'm in no hurry although I would like to swap the drives and to install the lightsaber pen mod
Dmwitz said:
May I ask wether you have lost any functionalty since rooting? From what I have read here some things no not work and some things work worse than they did before rooting.
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Seriously? I don't know which moron you heard that from but giving yourself the equivalent of admin access on your own phone will not result in any lost functionality. There's really no reason not to root your phone.
I've rooted twice because installing ljc and lk8 and I have had no issues wjat so ever. Free wifi tethering is a must if you have wifi camera or tablet, I love the 4.2 photoshere for my job and amoung other things only on root. My previous evo 4g was stock. This was 1st phone I rooted and im patiently awaiting a cm10/paranoid android port to run hybrid mode on this beast and take full advantage of everything it has to offer. Its like making a super phone. Out of the box its great but after root and accessibility its a super phablet
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iwin2000 said:
Seriously? I don't know which moron you heard that from but giving yourself the equivalent of admin access on your own phone will not result in any lost functionality. There's really no reason not to root your phone.
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Ummm..you're very uninformed if you believe rooting results in zero loss of functionality. The big thing that gets broken after rooting being Samsung media hubs. You may be able to restore that functionality with Triangle Away, tho that too can brick your phone.
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Skripka said:
Ummm..you're very uninformed if you believe rooting results in zero loss of functionality. The big thing that gets broken after rooting being Samsung media hubs. You may be able to restore that functionality with Triangle Away, tho that too can brick your phone.
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sir i do believe my media hub work fine
im rooted and everything works like stock but better.
Media Hub works from what I know I've used it to see what it looks like then uninstalled it
I have noticed though for me at least putting a custom rom on makes my battery worse than stock. Custom I get maybe 10 hrs with about a hr screen on and stock rooted I can get close to or a little over a day with about 3-4 hrs screen on time.
I rooted my phone the first day I got it. Its mostly to remove bloat ware but I also like flashing different roms and mods. The phone works perfectly fine not rooted but where is the fun in that?
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Root? Not yet since release date. First android phone running stock for close to two months. Superb battery life with no notice lag.
Wanted root:
To see if battery last longer
Wifi tether (not in a hurry, due to tether with other phone)
All apps Multiview Mod (this is probably most important)
Swap internal with External for Games (Second important)
Maybe 4.2 camera
and jump on lastest leak for the wakeup lag fixed.
So far for ME rooting is not super critical but one day when I'm bored I might go ahead.
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Root? Not yet since release date. First android phone running stock for close to two months. Superb battery life with no notice lag.
Wanted root:
To see if battery last longer
Wifi tether (not in a hurry, due to tether with other phone)
All apps Multiview Mod (this is probably most important)
Swap internal with External for Games (Second important)
Maybe 4.2 camera
and jump on lastest leak for the wakeup lag fixed.
So far for ME rooting is not super critical but one day when I'm bored I might go ahead.
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Rooting will not give you better battery life all its doing is giving you the admin rights like for.instance on a computer you right click and run as administrator same thing.
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theoner1 said:
Root? Not yet since release date. First android phone running stock for close to two months. Superb battery life with no notice lag.
Wanted root:
To see if battery last longer
Wifi tether (not in a hurry, due to tether with other phone)
All apps Multiview Mod (this is probably most important)
Swap internal with External for Games (Second important)
Maybe 4.2 camera
and jump on lastest leak for the wakeup lag fixed.
So far for ME rooting is not super critical but one day when I'm bored I might go ahead.
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Is the wake up lag fixed in 4.1.2?
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XxLostSoulxX said:
Rooting will not give you better battery life all its doing is giving you the admin rights like for.instance on a computer you right click and run as administrator same thing.
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I know rooting alone will not increase battery life. With rooting you can install custom kernel and possible underclock and undervolt for better battery or install custom rom which dev tweak it for battery sake. I root enough android devices to understand pretty much what rooting does, thanks.
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globen said:
Is the wake up lag fixed in 4.1.2?
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Sorry I thought I read it somewhere but I could be totally off.
theoner1 said:
I know rooting alone will not increase battery life. With rooting you can install custom kernel and possible underclock and undervolt for better battery or install custom rom which dev tweak it for battery sake. I root enough android devices to understand pretty much what rooting does, thanks.
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Sorry I thought I read it somewhere but I could be totally off.
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well then you should go a little bit to further explain that because you made around like your a noob just saying lol
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I rooted just to change the theme on my phone and the horrible bloatware.. I have ocd about stuff I don't see.. As far as better battery life, I never look for that with under volting /under clocking.. I like the peace of mind of a stable phone
-TeaM VeNuM Like A Boss
-Galaxy Note II Edition
I haven't rooted mine.. Had it since black friday. Haven't seen a rom to change my mind yet
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smooth703 said:
I haven't rooted mine.. Had it since black friday. Haven't seen a rom to change my mind yet
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you dont need a cool rom to root your phone, i root my devices just to block ads. I never get an ad on you tube or any websites. I use you tube a lot and the 30 sec. ads are such a waste of time. I also root it so I can save data that i would not be able to save other wise, I root so I can save a stable image of my phone in case something goes south and I need to start over. A year from now I might put on MIUI or CM for something different. Right now stock rooted is the way to go. I love the interface, I have only had HTC phones and this feels nothing like sence.
I'm not rooted. As someone else mentioned I don't see any functionality or features available out there that I want that require it. I have rooted ( and jailbroken ) phones before though, I am familiar with it.
I run Apex launcher instead of TouchWiz, but that doesn't require root. Maybe I'll root once the phone is obsoleted and no more OTA updates are available, if that day comes.
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I'm not rooted. As someone else mentioned I don't see any functionality or features available out there that I want that require it. I have rooted ( and jailbroken ) phones before though, I am familiar with it.
I run Apex launcher instead of TouchWiz, but that doesn't require root. Maybe I'll root once the phone is obsoleted and no more OTA updates are available, if that day comes.
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your telling me you like BLOATWARE? you like to not even change a few things like for instance some cool apps that require root access, etc... eventually there will be a kernel for stock purposes but just increases battery life; your telling me you don't even want Better Battery Life?

Why Root the Note 2

I have had several android phones that i have rooted in the past and i can be classified as a flash-a-holic, I love messing with my phone.
With that stated it seems that rooting an flashing new roms is also a headache. I have not found a rom with my evo or s2 that does not have bugs and problems.
So my question is - what are the good reasons to root my Note 2. I feel that if i root and flash it is an never ending process to find the perfect rom that does not exist.
The Note to is wonderful as is - battery is great.
I HATE the puke green battery icon and love what others can do with the setup that i cannot. But its not worth it if the roms have bugs.
I do not like the bloat on the phone and would love to get rid of it but is it worth it?
I would love to see some compelling reasons to root this phone.
Thanks for your input in advance.
I rooted my note for two reasons: I am able to use external ntsf hdd ( now I use ssd without the need to use external power) AND the second reason was to increase audio output volume. I use samsung stock firmware. I am verry pleased.
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The main reason I have mine rooted is the hotspot hack. I have a stock Rom but rooted. That's it. I used to be a flash aholic but I found it tiring to reset my phone every time. I don't want to run the risk of missing something important. I do love to theme though. Just depends on what you want to do.
Rockin' the Sprint Note 2
salukis93 said:
I have had several android phones that i have rooted in the past and i can be classified as a flash-a-holic, I love messing with my phone.
With that stated it seems that rooting an flashing new roms is also a headache. I have not found a rom with my evo or s2 that does not have bugs and problems.
So my question is - what are the good reasons to root my Note 2. I feel that if i root and flash it is an never ending process to find the perfect rom that does not exist.
The Note to is wonderful as is - battery is great.
I HATE the puke green battery icon and love what others can do with the setup that i cannot. But its not worth it if the roms have bugs.
I do not like the bloat on the phone and would love to get rid of it but is it worth it?
I would love to see some compelling reasons to root this phone.
Thanks for your input in advance.
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you don't need to root your phone if you don't have a reason to. don't force it.
personally, i wholly intended to stay pure stock...but then that exynos exploit thing surfaced.
a) it made rooting ridiculously easy
b) it made the phone ridiculously vulnerable.
so i decided to use the patch, but since i'm already there, i just rooted. i have no intentions of flashing custom roms either, though that may change later as roms mature and gain s-pen related applications.
also, titanium backup. i needed to import my game saves.
i'm still in my as-stock-as-possible mood, so I'm still using stock recovery. no nandroids backups sadly, but considering i don't mess with the phone all that much, i don't think i'll need it. TI backup is good enough.
I'm stock rooted for free tether, directory bind, titanium backup, and other tweaks that pop up that I may like as time goes on. It's really easy to do with the toolkit so I figured why not. Intend to stay stock for now, this thing is so amazing already. I got MOGA for Christmas as well as some play store money so I have lots of games and the 11gb available storage is no where near enough without app2sd or the directory bind solution. Could hold 2 maybe 3 big games before now have probably 10-12.
Swyped On My Beast Note II
Blocking ads..my number 1 reason to root.
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mulhiny said:
Blocking ads..my number 1 reason to root.
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I agree. Mine too. Reason number 1 why I did it was because I wanted the "multi-view mod" love watching a movie and texting people at the sammw time its awesome
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Wifi tether, remove bloatware, and having no limitations to what mods/apps I can use. Plus, just because you root your phone doesn't mean that you have to flash a custom rom.
ad blocking and titanium backup.
jon-.- said:
Wifi tether, remove bloatware, and having no limitations to what mods/apps I can use. Plus, just because you root your phone doesn't mean that you have to flash a custom rom.
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Yep. Other than the bloat, the stock ROM is better than some custom ROMs. I say root (for the options) and run the debloater. When I first picked up this phone I thought about keeping it unrooted. Naturally though I was rooted an hour later.
Like some people, I used to install different roms but now I just root to get hotspot feature and some apps that require root. But I stay with stock.
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adamantypants said:
Yep. Other than the bloat, the stock ROM is better than some custom ROMs. I say root (for the options) and run the debloater. When I first picked up this phone I thought about keeping it unrooted. Naturally though I was rooted an hour later.
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Do you happen to have a link handy for the debloater?
Sent from my big big BIG iphone killer.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997346
I actually haven't used it myself. I'm running a custom rom XP
adamantypants said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1997346
I actually haven't used it myself. I'm running a custom rom XP
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Thanks! Although i dont have cwm or twrp on my phone : /
Sent from my big big BIG iphone killer.
I started rooting when I had the SG2, and continued when I had the S3. I found myself continuously changing roms, looking for something better, and then ended up missing out on the stock things (like samsungs custom stuff).
I told myself I wouldn't root my Note 2, but the final straw was broken when I was when I stayed at an expensive hotel that wanted $7 an hour for the wifi. I needed the hotspot hack.
I'm on stock rooted, but I guess you can say the main reasons I am rooted are:
Hotspot hack
Google wallet (even though it hasn't worked for me once yet)
I don't mind the bloat nor the ads. I don't download shady apps from Google Play so I don't have advertisement notifications. As for the bloat, some of it is useful and I like it.
My number one reason to ROOT is to control the processors. You think battery life is great, wait till you reduce some of the processing power. I have mine MAX at 1GHz, and it never misses a beat! I'm sure it's due to the quad core and 2GB of RAM that makes it feel just as fast as if i had left it at the stock settings (1.6GHz).
And I am a flash-a-holic, but I like it...makes me feel like I got a new phone every week! hahaha
I haven't rooted mine for the sole reason that its too much of a headache to me with previous phones. Too often I lost messaging and internet and I personally don't have the money to buy a new phone if i break it. It's a personal decision you have to make where the good outweighs the potential bad
I root for the themes!
Its nice to be able to switch it up once and a while.
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islandjat said:
I haven't rooted mine for the sole reason that its too much of a headache to me with previous phones. Too often I lost messaging and internet and I personally don't have the money to buy a new phone if i break it. It's a personal decision you have to make where the good outweighs the potential bad
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Easy one clicks root is the easiest way to go.
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Overclock.
Get the most out of the new processor.
Sent from a potato.

Worth it?

Is it really worth flashing a custom rom? In terms of speed, features and batt life?
Additional question:
Howcome when I do voice search in google it doesn't show me the cards? Instead it only go straight to search results.
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Justinhopaolo said:
Is it really worth flashing a custom rom? In terms of speed, features and batt life?
Additional question:
Howcome when I do voice search in google it doesn't show me the cards? Instead it only go straight to search results.
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for now atleast I personally I repeat ONLY my personal opinion I have tried other ROMs but I just end up using original Samsung stock but rooted though and using perseus kernel!! as other ROMs for me were just not 100% perfect but in sure many people here would prefer the custom ROMs..my phone hasn't slowed down an inch !! a quad core processor + 2GB RAM why should I get worried anyway!! battery can last upto 2 days with minimal use though..if you want to try out other ROMs try them or check them out on YouTube before you commit yourself as you will have some good idea about the ROM
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Justinhopaolo said:
Is it really worth flashing a custom rom? In terms of speed, features and batt life?
Additional question:
Howcome when I do voice search in google it doesn't show me the cards? Instead it only go straight to search results.
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for me i was on latest mg1 on and it has worst battery life and doesnot have some tweaks i want like sound controls,ignore unstable charging etc,so i decided to switch to wannamlite 3.9 and i thoroughly enjoy it,it has noticeably better smoothness and battery,i tried various custom roms but i always come back to wannamlite
I had Nexus 4 and I have tried many custom roms,
Eventually there isn't a big difference in your day to day use, now and then you can find a few cool feature - but nothing you can't live without.
For me, the main attraction in custom roms is having latest Android version.
I would recommend you stay put, after a few modification like canceling animation and launchers - you will have a great android experience with Stock note 2.
I prefer Samsung's tweaks with the SPen and multitasking. I tried some other ROMs on other devices, but on the Note 2, I prefer a rooted phone running the stock ROM.
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I tried other stuff too. Now I'm back on stock. I thought I'd try it unrooted for a while and see what I thought.
That was 3 months ago, and I still haven't felt the need to root.
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We don't, imo, have a great selection of roms for our phone and I dont think any rom will be as stable as stock.
Root is pretty important but, unlike other phones I've had, I don't think custom roms are as necessary.
With all that said I do like my Jedi custom Rom lol
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For me, it is worth it. I like the different options and customizations provided. Battery life is a hit and miss and depends a lot in the user of course. Though I keep switching between stocks and custom, I personally prefer custom rooms over stock rom.
For me its a big YES..customization, tweaks, root apps are boon for Android users!
I love using phone in 240dpi..moreover 240dpi looks awesome for our giant note 2 screen.
Secondly, access to root apps like titanium backup , supersu, root toolbox and more..
Third-rid of all bloatware
There are alot to be mentioned..its endless.
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for many xda is like a second home....if you are here you need to root
and flash
android is a beautiful language to learn
Of course! My note 2 had drastically slowed down on stock! To such a level that it was taking a good 5 seconds to open the dialer! It was too slow to switch between apps!
But once I switched to a custom Rom, it was lightning fast! And the abundance of customizations! It's just awesome! I'm on probam.. check it out! It's got all the goodies of all the top roms available!
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Absolutely - I would highly recommend at least rooting and flashing kernel like RedPill. It certainly improves battery life, and gives you calibrated screen (seriously, you don't know what the hell you are missing, because Samsung Calibration is horrible), has option to amplify headphone volume, and gives you better sound quality etc. And also many other useful apps need rooted phone.
ARHD is apparently smooth for many people. There are plenty of other ROMs like Project AOSP (AOSP look and feel), X Note (floating multiwindow) etc. Battery life should be awesome too.
I've tried plenty of roms on this phone and my experience has been that none of them offer much benefit over rooted stock in conjunction with the xposed framework. Battery life is great as is reliability. Sometimes those customs will have a funky bug which went rear it's head until the worst time.
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My Note 2 was pretty slow on stock. Huge lag on lockscreen, unlock and lags all over the place.
Installing Nova Launcher and a custom lockscreen did help quite a bit, but it still left a bit to be desired.
Now I'm on Phoenix Rom and it seems much better. Battery life is much improved as well. And perhaps most importantly, I got rid of most of the ungodly TouchWiz ugliness in the process! The default 320 dpi is ridiculous for me! Huge menus occupying most of the precious screen estate. With 240 the phone is much more productive and everything just looks better and sharper.
So for me it was definately worth it!
Though with root, Xposed and custom skinning you can achieve quite a lot already. But root and Xposed are pretty much mandatory.
artikle said:
For me, it is worth it. I like the different options and customizations provided. Battery life is a hit and miss and depends a lot in the user of course. Though I keep switching between stocks and custom, I personally prefer custom rooms over stock rom.
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Im not sure how true it is but I heard battery life is more dependant on the kernel. I'm using saber kernel and am getting a screen off loss per hour of 1%. I've never had it that Good before
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