while it's only $100 at best buy. How's the development for this one (AT&T)? It looks like 9/10 of the ROMs have been abandoned and not updated for a month or more, is there some reason for this?
Anyway, if I get the SGSIII I will NEED
GPS that locks within 30 seconds, I get lost A LOT.
Working audio (no skipping or weird issues) from the 3.5mm connector
stable and doesn't crash or go really slow
Camera working enough to at least take clear pictures quickly
Do any ROMs do this currently?
Also a couple other questions. What can I expect for battery life, does it last a whole day with moderately heavy use? Any known issues that just come with the device and can't be/aren't currently fixed, like crapple's camera flare or my Infuse's terrible GPS (that got fixed with a relaunch and silent recall)?
Wtf. Almost every cm10 or aokp rom has been updated nightly. Most touchwiz roms don't get updated since they are close to being finished since there are no bugs on stock roms.
If you want it to work good run touchwiz roms. With battery I get 15 to 25 hours and about 4 hours on screen time which is pretty heavy use. As for bugs none I know of on stock. Everything works flawlessly.
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you can use aokp, Its great!
While the International version has a ton of roms, the I747 has a good amount of solid builds. You can have your choice of stock ics touchwiz (ariel), jelly bean touchwiz leaks (aristodemos, serenity) and aosp jellybean hybrids (aokp, liquid smooth, paranoid android). All work perfectly with GPS locking on within 15 seconds max. Never had a problem.
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100$ outright or under contract? BB canada is 0$ on our crappy 3 year plan
Yea.... a lot of the TouchWiz ICS ROM's haven't had updates lately because there isn't really a whole lot for them to do with the ROM, since it was pretty much complete to begin with. Just about all they really did on them is remove bloat, add custom themes, and tweak some stuff here and there. The TouchWiz JB ROM's still get updated fairly regularly, since there are still tweaks to be made here and there, and things to be updated as new leaks arise. But stuff like Cyanogenmod and the different ROM's built off of it are updated daily or every other day or two.
Been using CM10 nightly and now on M2 stable build. I use it as daily driver and don't have any issues. You won't be disappointed OP
I'll give my two cents as I've had this phone for bout 4 days now and I am coming of iOS.
I am a fairly techy user. I I run Linux servers for fun. I am but never got jntk android because I figured I'd play with the phone more than use it and it would end up being broken half the time.
Immediately after getting it I rooted it and flashed the rom and have already tried CM10, two TW ROMs and whatever else I could get my hand on.
Ultimately for stability purposes I'm still on stock. The phone is really good in terms of use, and but be prepared to know that ROMing it is still an experimental thing and if you want it to work flawlessly, and you'll most probably sitting on stock (which is not a bad thing)
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not to hijack the thread..
but is Ariel the ATT equal of CleanRom for verizon?
I'm on SlimBean but battery isn't stellar... so going to try my luck at a touchwiz rom.
I have a international gs3 9300 and an ATT gs3 and I run my Att gs3 as my main phone because tasks aokp jellybean ROM is hands down the best ROM built for either phone. The 9300 has many more roms than the i747. I bought the 9300 for the increased development and I learned the expensive way that quality beats quantity in the ROM department. Get the Att gs3 and root and flash tasks aokp and I guarantee you will be very happy.
I hope you got the phone today and I hope you enjoy it. Personally, I'm so satisfied with the stock rooted ROM that I've almost kicked my flashing addiction.
Almost.
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You can look under the original development page for some good stable roms like SlimBean, PA, and Aokp. All function well enough to be a DD.
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I have a international gs3 9300 and an ATT gs3 and I run my Att gs3 as my main phone because tasks aokp jellybean ROM is hands down the best ROM built for either phone. The 9300 has many more roms than the i747. I bought the 9300 for the increased development and I learned the expensive way that quality beats quantity in the ROM department. Get the Att gs3 and root and flash tasks aokp and I guarantee you will be very happy.
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I agree with Jonny here... I too am running JB AOKP and everything works perfect. Task650 is always adding new commits and is constantly updating the ROM. Another point to consider... every phone is NOT created equal. The same ROM and kernel can run better/worse on one SGS3 to the next. You have to flash and try a ROM out to see how it runs for you because it won't be the same on another phone of the same model. Besides, what's stopping YOU from going through the development area and reading the threads like the rest of us have to do to learn what we need to? First suggestion.... don't be lazy and expect others to spoon feed you answers because you WILL receive backlash and grief. Do yourself a favor and SEARCH and READ anything and everything you feel is pertinent to your query. Spare yourself the frustration. This is just a word to the wise. No disrespect intended.
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I agree with Jonny here... I too am running JB AOKP and everything works perfect. Task650 is always adding new commits and is constantly updating the ROM. Another point to consider... every phone is NOT created equal. The same ROM and kernel can run better/worse on one SGS3 to the next. You have to flash and try a ROM out to see how it runs for you because it won't be the same on another phone of the same model. Besides, what's stopping YOU from going through the development area and reading the threads like the rest of us have to do to learn what we need to? First suggestion.... don't be lazy and expect others to spoon feed you answers because you WILL receive backlash and grief. Do yourself a favor and SEARCH and READ anything and everything you feel is pertinent to your query. Spare yourself the frustration. This is just a word to the wise. No disrespect intended.
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This.
Task and ktoonzes are rocking this phone and Cyanogen himself is heading up CM development. Enough said.
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This.
Task and ktoonzes are rocking this phone and Cyanogen himself is heading up CM development. Enough said.
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Exactly.
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while it's only $100 at best buy. How's the development for this one (AT&T)? It looks like 9/10 of the ROMs have been abandoned and not updated for a month or more, is there some reason for this?
Anyway, if I get the SGSIII I will NEED
GPS that locks within 30 seconds, I get lost A LOT.
Working audio (no skipping or weird issues) from the 3.5mm connector
stable and doesn't crash or go really slow
Camera working enough to at least take clear pictures quickly
Do any ROMs do this currently?
Also a couple other questions. What can I expect for battery life, does it last a whole day with moderately heavy use? Any known issues that just come with the device and can't be/aren't currently fixed, like crapple's camera flare or my Infuse's terrible GPS (that got fixed with a relaunch and silent recall)?
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The GPS and Navigation is AMAZING on any Android phone.
Their Music app could use some work, however i do use the app PlayerPro
TouchWiz is pretty stable but i find gets slower with time and i think thats due to the fact that its running ICS. I would recommend flashing a custom ROM such as CM10 for JB which makes the OS run ALOT smoother.
The stock camera is also very good with alot of features.
Hopes this helps.
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Which do you prefer and why. I Basically want the pro's and con's. I know CM10 is not meant for our phones, heck even CM9 for that matter. So im curious... whats your flavor.
How long have you been using JB (either one) and what's your battery like. Or how did you make it better.
What modem works for you and why.
Let's see some screenshots of your battery.
Its not that its not meant for our phones but not officially supported
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Correct. But it does work better on other phones. But you are correct thanks for correcting me.
I am a big CM fan and after using the alphas I strayed and lived on the Unofficial CM9 nightlies for a while. I found those very smooth, but had sub-par battery.
After jumping back to GB for a month or so, I have played with both CM10 and JB AOSP. As expected, CM10 has more customization options while AOSP is very lean. Performance is very similar between the two as there has been a lot of collaboration between the devs and functionality is continually improving VERY fast with each update.
That being said, the only thing I miss on either ROM is bluetooth for media. Everything else that I use is working without issue. Some have reported LOS, but I have not experienced it with a clean data wipe and fresh install. I am still holding on to the EL29 modem, but considering trying a couple of the newer releases.
As for my preference, I am using JB AOSP as my DD at this point because I have experienced VERY good battery life with practical use CM10 seemed to drain a little faster, but it is coming along quite nicely IMO. Moving from Calks GB 3.0 to the JB ROMS lately has not been a dramatic transition in terms of battery and that is saying something.
I hope that is what you were looking for. Either way, IMO you can't go wrong test driving both and seeing which one does it for you.
Edit 1 (AOSP Alpha 5): Bluetooth media has been working since Alpha 4 and it is very stable. With Alpha 5, the screen transition from portrait to landscape (and back) is more responsive as it has been a little slow in the previous builds. This is a very nice build. The battery issue seems to be that the phone does not charge completely but shows 99-100% when disconnecting from the charger. Sbrissen has noted a potential battery fix on Alpha 5. I have not had it long enough to report anything at this point.
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I am a big CM fan and after using the alphas I strayed and lived on the Unofficial CM9 nightlies for a while. I found those very smooth, but had sub-par battery.
After jumping back to GB for a month or so, I have played with both CM10 and JB AOSP. As expected, CM10 has more customization options while AOSP is very lean. Performance is very similar between the two as there has been a lot of collaboration between the devs and functionality is continually improving VERY fast with each update.
That being said, the only thing I miss on either ROM is bluetooth for media. Everything else that I use is working without issue. Some have reported LOS, but I have not experienced it with a clean data wipe and fresh install. I am still holding on to the EL29 modem, but considering trying a couple of the newer releases.
As for my preference, I am using JB AOSP as my DD at this point because I have experience VERY good battery life with practical use CM10 seemed to drain a little faster, but it is coming along quite nicely IMO. Moving from Calks GB 3.0 to the JB ROMS lately has not been a dramatic transition in terms of battery and that is saying something.
I hope that is what you were looking for. Either way, IMO you can't go wrong test driving both and seeing which one does it for you.
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That's exactly what I was looking for thank you sir.
Jelly bean running smoothly
I'm running Sbrissens aosp alpha 3 and its smooth sailing with no known issues so far! Also think its a DD for me,battery is not melting my phone like previous builds.
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I am a big CM fan and after using the alphas I strayed and lived on the Unofficial CM9 nightlies for a while. I found those very smooth, but had sub-par battery.
After jumping back to GB for a month or so, I have played with both CM10 and JB AOSP. As expected, CM10 has more customization options while AOSP is very lean. Performance is very similar between the two as there has been a lot of collaboration between the devs and functionality is continually improving VERY fast with each update.
That being said, the only thing I miss on either ROM is bluetooth for media. Everything else that I use is working without issue. Some have reported LOS, but I have not experienced it with a clean data wipe and fresh install. I am still holding on to the EL29 modem, but considering trying a couple of the newer releases.
As for my preference, I am using JB AOSP as my DD at this point because I have experience VERY good battery life with practical use CM10 seemed to drain a little faster, but it is coming along quite nicely IMO. Moving from Calks GB 3.0 to the JB ROMS lately has not been a dramatic transition in terms of battery and that is saying something.
I hope that is what you were looking for. Either way, IMO you can't go wrong test driving both and seeing which one does it for you.
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I've been waiting for a post like this since Sbrissen released the ROM. Think I shall finally give it a go and see how it runs.
cm10 ftw.
after using cm you'll find it hard to go back to anything else! (unless its aokp)
there is just endless customization options..
cm10 may have more features for me aosp is a lil better far as battery and smoothness i ran both for a lil over a day aosp is the winner
Check out SB's AOSP Alpha 3. All the reviews say it is coming along nicely (almost Beta)
I tried it back when it was private, and it was amazing (other than LOS, which he seemed to have fixed)
So I'm installing it again now.
CM10 vs. AOSP
Well, for me CM does the trick. And when I got the EpTouch and found out it was not supported by CM, I was heartbroken. The Epic Touch is such a wonderful device with its screen, and CPU power; granted there are a number of devices currently better than this phone.
I think CM is a better choice just for how well they support development. I have never had an AOSP ROM before, but I enjoyed being able to boot into recovery from hitting the power button. I even enjoyed playing with a few of the CM settings in the phone.
AOSP is just pure, 100% Android, and is great if that is what you want. But, I still want a little suprises here and there.
Cm is very stable for the epic. They are quite close to official I would say.
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Nice post, guys. I'm gonna flash cm10 now. Haha.:victory:
What is the best way to go to AOSP from EL29 GB? And of get back to GB if needed?
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What is the best way to go to AOSP from EL29 GB? And of get back to GB if needed?
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Use el26 cwm and wipe everything. To go back just use one click.
Well I was running the AOSP build and loved it with the exception that WiFi tether won't work. Can anyone confirm it works on cm10 before I go through the trouble of flashing?
From what I read, Wifi tether is not working on Jellybean right now and have been running CM10 Alpha 4 for over 12 hours now. Let your Rom settle. It takes time to set your accounts back up with syncing and will drain your battery the first cycle. The first battery cycle had 3 hours. I left it off and let it charge over night. I have now had it off the charger for an hour and half and am still at 87%. A huge increase since first cycle. In that same time I have a 1% Time without Cell signal (LOS).... I had this on GB, just b/c I have one tower about 3 miles away that I'm anchored to. If you haven't already I would recommend flashing the new FH13 modem as well.
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From what I read, Wifi tether is not working on Jellybean right now and have been running CM10 Alpha 4 for over 12 hours now. Let your Rom settle. It takes time to set your accounts back up with syncing and will drain your battery the first cycle. The first battery cycle had 3 hours. I left it off and let it charge over night. I have now had it off the charger for an hour and half and am still at 87%. A huge increase since first cycle. In that same time I have a 1% Time without Cell signal (LOS).... I had this on GB, just b/c I have one tower about 3 miles away that I'm anchored to. If you haven't already I would recommend flashing the new FH13 modem as well.
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Well, from what i read from your reply is, I dont know what im talking about , yada yada yada.... If you read a little closer it says wifi tether is not working on the AOSP build. I clearly asked above if someone could verify that it is indeed working on the CM10 build. Is that what you are trying to say? Cause no one here said they are having problems with syncing or other accounts.
Cm10 alpha 4 is running great, I was running el29 modem but I had some issues with Los, after I upgraded to fh13 I have not experienced any more Los. also turning off location services gets better battery in deep sleep.
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CM10 alpha 4 is not working well for me with LOS issues. I keep getting LOS atleast 4-5 times a day needing a reboot... going to try ASOP.
Hello, well T-Mobile failed on my upgrade.. they tried to send me out the Marble white when I upgraded my 2yr for the Pebble Blue.. so unless they make it a Sat delivery, I am stuck waiting till monday. =/ Gives me a chance to look thinsg over here. Now I was hearing CM10 ASOP was a stable build if I wanted Jelly Bean. However I also heard ASOP breaks the HDMI ability? Also looking for a rom with the cifs ability for network shares. (Also DLNA still work on these non stock roms?)
So anyways also been reading the rumor that sometime next week or so the official JB will be released, so should I wait on a custom rom for official builds to be used to upgrade the custom roms or is there something common and main stream thats ideal to use for everything without issues. Also confused about the Panorama stuff, Never used that before and I hear some roms feature it.
Anyways if anyone could help point me with the right basic info, so when I get my S3, I have some insight on whats ideal atm or the status. =) Not new to XDA here, so I already know lots of reading to do before flashing my ideal stuff. =) Thanks.
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Hello, well T-Mobile failed on my upgrade.. they tried to send me out the Marble white when I upgraded my 2yr for the Pebble Blue.. so unless they make it a Sat delivery, I am stuck waiting till monday. =/ Gives me a chance to look thinsg over here. Now I was hearing CM10 ASOP was a stable build if I wanted Jelly Bean. However I also heard ASOP breaks the HDMI ability? Also looking for a rom with the cifs ability for network shares. (Also DLNA still work on these non stock roms?)
So anyways also been reading the rumor that sometime next week or so the official JB will be released, so should I wait on a custom rom for official builds to be used to upgrade the custom roms or is there something common and main stream thats ideal to use for everything without issues. Also confused about the Panorama stuff, Never used that before and I hear some roms feature it.
Anyways if anyone could help point me with the right basic info, so when I get my S3, I have some insight on whats ideal atm or the status. =) Not new to XDA here, so I already know lots of reading to do before flashing my ideal stuff. =) Thanks.
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ive tried out several of the stock based roms. my favorite is the wicked rom by evil1art. its pretty stable. ive used it with the hdmi mhl connector and its great. on a side note, be careful when you buy that connector as the pin configuration for the s3 is different. there is an adaptor piece you can buy if you already own one. thats what i did. its like 9 bucks on amazon.
in my opinion the AOSP roms are just not quite there yet. plus, a lot of people, myself included, really like what they have done with touchwiz. not everyone will agree with that statement but its my opinion.
ive been tempted to try out some of the JB leaks but im holding out for the official release i think. i personally hate dealing with buggy roms. i prefer more stable builds.
kernel wise, trinity kernel and faux kernel are both really popular. try some things out and see what works best for you
im assuming your panorama question refers to the camera? its pretty simple you select it when the camer is open. its one of the options on the side and you just slowly pan the camera as you take the picture. ive had mixed luck with it. panorma photos ive taken with apps from the market tend to come out a little cleaner. but its a great option for capturing a view or scenery that you just cant grab in one shot.
all in all in general. the camera is the best ive ever used on a phone. but again, other people might have a different opinion on this.
hope this helped a little bit.
Personal opinion, is to stay on stock until the Jelly Bean update, and then see what is done. WildChild usually will make a great clean rom of a stock build, and to be honest, the only way you are keeping the things you want, HDMI etc, you will have to stay with stock/touchwiz build. You can still do mods, and themes to try to get the look you want, but you will never get the functionality you want in AOSP. It's just too difficult, and not a priority for AOSP devs.
Ok so avoid AOSP. Good advice. Thanks! Also any news on cifs support or a cifs.ko file I can download and just insmod load for the S3? DNLA working good too? (Since my dd-wrt I have that running)
And yea, whats the point of using the phone without the hdmi heh. So I will assume then all CM roms are worse then stock at this stage (and/or lack HDMI ability?)
So in the end, you all are suggesting stick with stock, root it, play around till official JB comes out and roms based on it?
Wicked rom is working good for me.
I'm running CM10 nightlies on my GS3 and love it. Everything works fine, including MHL out. I can't really compare it to TW though since I've been running CM10 since I bought the thing lol.
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Yea since latest news is toward the end of this month, maybe just before Galaxy Note 2 for JB for us S3. I may just wait to see roms based off the new official one. The trick is.. would I go CM10, then I am really wondering how we would even know a build changed up to start basing things more off the official source (vs leaked)
Definitly wicked rom. I've tried every rom in the s3 forums and by far wicked to me is the best all around. Wicked with ktoons kernel the pho e is blazing fast. Ultra smooth as stable as the day I took it out of the box and I get an average of 13-15 hours battery with farely heavy use. You will not be disappointed in this rom/kernel combo.
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What is different in that rom vs stock?
Right now rooted stock.. isnt bad.. I was surprised to see how fast it is and that it DOES have cifs.ko support already! Woot!
If I get 9 smartass answers, one one "real" answer, that's fine with me.
I just want to know, and yes, Google is my friend, where the Dinc is with Android... fully-funtional Jelly Bean (saw CM10 nightlies), does it actually run well?
I'm wondering what the status of development is because I may pick up a new Dinc, I loved this phone and it's like $100 new in box now.
Thanks/**** you, depending on your response
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Pons CM10 builds run great. Also have AOKP JB and several other nice roms. My Incredible isn't activated anymore, wifi only (actual phone is a Tbolt...interesting to say the least...) but I've been having great fun messing with the Inc lately. Still an awesome phone.
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It's running great for me. One problem area is video, see my post here for more info:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1959610
For a more negative assessment of JB on the dinc, check out this post:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=33218317&postcount=105
...read some more of that thread for discussion and comebacks related to those comments. It should get you a pretty good feel for where things stand currently.
I have been running Albionman's 4.1 on my DInc as a daily since Beta. I can still get it to choke and reboot once in a while (once a month) but the benifits of 4.1 outweigh the negatives.
I like it a lot better than the office CM7.2 with the boot screen that takes 2 minutes to load. I am interested in checking out CM10 eventually though.
Pon's CM10 builds run pretty damn well, but you could probably find a slightly newer phone for the money, depending on your carrier/contract situation.
There are several JB Roms to choose from. I have run Albinoman's JB RC 3, Pons AOKP and Pons CM10. All have pros and cons. I am currently running Pons CM10 as it is updated and a currently active thread
For truly stable - everthing works plus extras - I would run (I know its hard to go back): Condemned Soul or Pons CM7.2
Above, somebody linked to a discussion where I expressed my opinion of the current JB builds (on the Dinc). My last thought is really the most important. Nobody else can tell you if you are going to be happy with JB on the Dinc. And you won't know yourself until you get the rom installed, you get your preferred apps installed, and experience it.
Some people don't mind the reboots (or FCs) and they report JB is stable. Some cannot stand them and say JB is not ready yet.
Some people say bah, camcorder... never use it. Some people say it is an essential function.
Some people never watch videos. For some people video is important.
One person's "slow and laggy"... is another person's "smooth and responsive".
For some the new notifications and "google now" are most important...
bla bla bla...... yadda yadda yadda
And then there is another big question beyond the /system functions. There is app compatibility. Everyone uses different apps. Which ones are essential to any individual? Are they working? Are they working well?
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I am patient for JB anyway... I know that I will get JB (and everything working) in January. Nexus 4 baby! Updates... custom roms... everything is going to work so much better in my future than it ever has on the Dinc!
I love the devs and thank them for their work and for what they have done for the Dinc. They have made my time with the Dinc so much better. But since gingerbread, all the roms have been all been crippled (despite the devs hard work) to some degree. No more of that situation for me... no thanks...
Goodbye and F*** OFF, Verizon. I will take google up on a better value in hardware than Verizon has ever offered! I will enjoy massive savings for my monthly service. I will enjoy the freedom and choices along with better quality custom and modified software. I'm just jealous my wife is going to get the nexus 4 before me.
there are 2 jellybean roms running pretty well on the Inc. The best is def Pons CM10 and it has been my daily driver for a few weeks now.
I've been dailing driving Albinoman's (with some tweaks) since Beta 2, and aside from the camera glitch ( work around exists) and the occasional chokeout from evernote, I'm very happy with it.
Im running Pons CM 10 since about october or november until now. It runs well for my dinc. Always getting better on each updates. There's always plus and minus for sure. But you can use it as a daily driver for your Dinc. Worth trying.
I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!
Not a good thread at all to start up man, just try them out and see for your self. Every one likes different things so it's kind of hard for us to just assume your needs... you know what I mean? Lots like both for different reasons, some always revert back to a stock rom some always go back to a cm rom.
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Leave it stock but rooted for the first few days to see what you think. Many think the extra features and that its stable and fast are worth staying stock based. Still a lot of others opt for cm or aokp regardless. Just give em both their fsir chance!
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flash the latest cm10 nightly. They work for Samsung and all
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Not a good thread at all to start up man, just try them out and see for your self. Every one likes different things so it's kind of hard for us to just assume your needs... you know what I mean? Lots like both for different reasons, some always revert back to a stock rom some always go back to a cm rom.
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That is why I didn't ask if I should flash CM 10 or not. I very simply asked what the differences were between stock and CM 10. I am wondering what features I will have with stock that I will lose with CM 10 and vice versa. That is a very fair question to ask of people who have already used both. I am trying to avoid trying both by going through a hassle and having to reinstall my programs and reconfigure my settings multiple times if I don't have to.
You lose all samsung stock features. That should be a no brainer. No motion activities, no smart stay (natively) no touchwiz, no wifi calling. Vanilla stock is what it always is, clean, no bloat, and super fast... what I said wasnt in any way being rude. It was exteremly truthful, and to the point.
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You lose all samsung stock features. That should be a no brainer. No motion activities, no smart stay (natively) no touchwiz, no wifi calling. Vanilla stock is what it always is, clean, no bloat, and super fast... what I said wasnt in any way being rude. It was exteremly truthful, and to the point.
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Wifi calling doesn't work on CM 10? I have been using it on CM 7 for my G2x.
So do you miss any of those Samsung features? I guess are they gimmicky or actually nice to have? From reviews, I have read that stock is really fast, so not sure if I gain speed by going to CM. Have you noticed speed improvements with CM 10 over stock?
I know but its so deeply integrated into framework and settings now its a pain. And no I personally don't miss those gimmicky features, but allot of people do. I stick to tw roms, because of battery. It always seems to last longer on stock based roms for me. Otherwise I prefer cm based roms. Lets just say I'll be moving to cm as soon as I feel it is closer to 100% in my eyes. Or the nexus 4 lol. And the only way I can feel it being 100% is by me testing it, not asking others. That's what I meant with my 1st post.
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I have to agree with mt3g here. AOSP ROMs are not the same as TW ROMs. I used TW for awhile when I first got my SGS3 and flashed pretty much all of them out there. I wasn't concerned with battery use, as I consider myself a battery expert. I was more interested in performance and features that were exclusive to TW and AOSP. They are so different that the only way to really get to know each other is to test drive them yourself.
Now I am on LiquidSmooth (AOSP base) and I love it. I am getting massive battery life, have tethering (I thethered my tablet to is almost all day yesterday after a bad flash [on the tablet not the phone]), Theme chooser springs a bit of life back into the eyecandy part. <--sometimes people flash not bc they want a new ROM but a new look .
Will I go back to TW? Sure. I tested Doc's ROM before he released it and I like it plenty enough to run it as a daily driver. But this is XDA and what are here for?
What do we want? A custom ROM
When do we want it? NO ETAs!!!! :cyclops:
Woodrube said:
I have to agree with mt3g here. AOSP ROMs are not the same as TW ROMs. I used TW for awhile when I first got my SGS3 and flashed pretty much all of them out there. I wasn't concerned with battery use, as I consider myself a battery expert. I was more interested in performance and features that were exclusive to TW and AOSP. They are so different that the only way to really get to know each other is to test drive them yourself.
Now I am on LiquidSmooth (AOSP base) and I love it. I am getting massive battery life, have tethering (I thethered my tablet to is almost all day yesterday after a bad flash [on the tablet not the phone]), Theme chooser springs a bit of life back into the eyecandy part. <--sometimes people flash not bc they want a new ROM but a new look .
Will I go back to TW? Sure. I tested Doc's ROM before he released it and I like it plenty enough to run it as a daily driver. But this is XDA and what are here for?
What do we want? A custom ROM
When do we want it? NO ETAs!!!! :cyclops:
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Very well said. :good:
I personally never ever ran a touchwiz or sense ROMs on any device I've ever owned for more than a day. I just missed the full control cm ROMs give. Ever since my HD2 I've ran cm7 up to cm10 on my s3. I really never notice the features being lost from a tw ROM mostly because I don't use them. Never really thought their "advertised" features were all that.
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I am running on a CM10 based rom and the only stock Samsung feature I miss is the Smart Stay. Everything else was just too gimmicky
Pretty sure there is an app for most of the samsung features.
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I stuck to stock ICS TW for a couple of days and I didn't enjoy it.
It just seemed too much and I wanted a closer to stock experience.
Made the switch to CM10. Greatest thing ever.
It's simple, effective, and works in pretty much every way that I would like.
The only thing that I miss from TW is the Messaging app.
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I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!
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Do you use Skype, Vox, or any other VOIP app? If you do, then don't flash CM10, AOKP or any other AOSP based rom.
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Do you use Skype, Vox, or any other VOIP app? If you do, then don't flash CM10, AOKP or any other AOSP based rom.
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May I know why? I'm right now with the Galaxy SI and on CM10, hoping to get the S3 and on the same dilemma. Right now my Skype works well on the CM10, Viber works only on speaker phone.
Having tried cm 10/aokp as well as TW ROMs for extended periods of time, I can say the following:
Although at first missing a certain TW feature might seem like a drawback- the feeling comes from what you're used to, and after a few days or week you will likely forget those features which you previously had which you thought were so important. For me the TW calendar (s Planner) was the big thing I was missing- since for a while I really couldn't find a good substitute which looked as good and performed as well! Finally I found one, so now I don't even compare anymore, but even if I hadn't found a substitute I'm sure I would have moved on at some point.
Point is, base your choice on the majority of the benefits that you'll get from the respective ROM. Personally, I like aokp/cm10 precisely because of its overall simplistic aesthetic ( I'm in love with the native jelly bean fonts used in the notification bar) and its native ability to theme. In terms of performance and extra tweaks, there are plenty of custom TW ROMs which are on par with the aosp ones (IMO). So I think it comes down to the overall feel/look, and pure personal preference.
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jimbo831 said:
I am a long time Android and long time CM user. I have been using an LG G2x for way too long and finally got fed up with it. I have a brand new Galaxy S3 arriving tomorrow and am trying to figure out what to do when I get it.
For those of you have have used both the stock OS and CM 10, what are the advantages of each? By rooting and installing CM 10, what stock Samsung features will I lose? Are there any you think I might actually miss? So just in general, I was hoping someone who used both the stock OS and CM 10 for a decent amount of time could explain to me exactly what I will gain/lose by rooting and installing CM 10 on this phone. Thanks!
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you will lose wifi calling, you will lose the ability to upload music straight from the music player to drop box, you will lose your mind, however, once you run a JB ROM and use google now for the first time, and you will go ape over the amount of customization available to cm10 users.
honestly, used "stock" for about 3 weeks when i first got my device back in july, flashed cm10, and never looked back. words cannot describe how amazing and feature-packed a cm10 ROM is...
flash hellfire 1.3 (if you don't mind the red), and give slim bean a shot if you don't want the red. I have had nothing but positive results with those two.
also, follow my guide in this section for the flashing process.
good luck.
WiFi calling
For me WiFi calling is the biggest feature, and extremely important. I don't have T-Mobile signal in my lab, where I spend most of the time and WiFi calling is the only hope. This is why I'm staying with the stock for now.
But if anyone can show me a way to get WiFi calling on CM10, I will be really thankful. Hate the stock rom from the bottom of my heart!!
-Thanks
The camera on cm10 is whats holding me back but once they come out with cm10.1 based on JB 4.2 then i think ill root and rom my phone.
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I'm a NOOB when it comes to Android development, so, when I try to run the "Autopatcher" and it fails then it's time for me to give up and ask for help...
Has anybody gotten PDroid to work on Galaxy S3 w/a JB ROM?
If not, I guess I'll have to see if I can figure out how to fix the errors. Need to learn how to make a COMPLETE backup of my phone first so I don't have to re-install apps next time I soft-brick/boot loop my phone - need my phone to run solid as my "Daily Driver" (don't have a second GS3 for testing purposes...)
I'm assuming you're using cm10 or aosp?
I'm not aware of anyone ever getting it to work on non-aosp roms since the original was written for GB. Unless there's been a breakthrough in the last month or so, I wouldn't expect to see it on TW anytime soon.
Hope I'm wrong though! I've wanted this for a long time! But if no one could get it on ICS, well, JB is a bit more....finicky....
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DocHoliday77 said:
I'm assuming you're using cm10 or aosp?
I'm not aware of anyone ever getting it to work on non-aosp roms since the original was written for GB. Unless there's been a breakthrough in the last month or so, I wouldn't expect to see it on TW anytime soon.
Hope I'm wrong though! I've wanted this for a long time! But if no one could get it on ICS, well, JB is a bit more....finicky....
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Well I was on Liquid Smooth and that was good, but, I missed some of the Touch Wiz "enhancements" - but - most of all I read this statement regarding any non-TW ROMs: "are missing the Qualcom Optimizations which" which make a substantial difference in performance.
AFAIK none of the CM10/AOSP ROMs have those optimizations - greater efficiency = greater battery life.
So I recently switched to FreeGS3 R7.1 "Resurrection" and when I look at my Battery and see that I've been on for 22 hours with SIXTY percent left - WOW, I don't want to go back.
But every day, several times a day, I'm thinking to myself how much it SUCKS that I can't control app permissions on my own stinking phone! ARGH!!! I miss being a teenager without the combination of work/school/kids/wife that has a list of things for me to do 'cause I don't have time to spend hours every day on software development for my phone (I must admit though, I do sneak into these forums whenever work is not busy, so maybe I could do some but I hardly know where to start in terms of getting PDroid working...)
I've asked several places, but don't know yet - is there ANY stable Jelly Bean ROM that works with PDroid for T-Mobile (T999) Galaxy S3?
EDIT: I feel like choosing between "Qualcom Optimizations" and PDroid (not being able to have both) on Jelly Bean is like buying a car and having to choose from either not having the engine, or not having the wheels - ie: not a good choice to have to make.
OK, my friend at work finally found one for me: galaxymod (port from Verizon).
Here's the link: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2089801
I'm still looking to see if SynergyROM has been ported?