I finally took the plunge and rooted my dInc using Unrevoked 3. Went smoothly, and confirmed I am rooted by running Titanium Backup. Did a full backup of apps and data.
However, now, and for the first time ever, I'm getting that blasted "Application data space is low. To free up... ". When I click on it, it just takes me to the running apps screen.
I have not installed any ROMs, kernels, or anything else. I ONLY rooted. That damn low data space icon is driving me nuts!
According to the Storage space menu, I have:
SD Card - Total Space 14.83 GB
Available Space 1.61 GB
Internal Phone Storage - Total Space 6.60 GB
Available Space 6.28 GB
Phone Memory: Total Space 748 MB
Available Space 556 MB
So, what's the problem? How can I resolve this? Thanks.
Flash a rom. Recommend redemptive revolution rom. Make sure to do a full wipe of cache and data in recovery.
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IamJAd said:
I finally took the plunge and rooted my dInc using Unrevoked 3. Went smoothly, and confirmed I am rooted by running Titanium Backup. Did a full backup of apps and data.
However, now, and for the first time ever, I'm getting that blasted "Application data space is low. To free up... ". When I click on it, it just takes me to the running apps screen.
I have not installed any ROMs, kernels, or anything else. I ONLY rooted. That damn low data space icon is driving me nuts!
According to the Storage space menu, I have:
SD Card - Total Space 14.83 GB
Available Space 1.61 GB
Internal Phone Storage - Total Space 6.60 GB
Available Space 6.28 GB
Phone Memory: Total Space 748 MB
Available Space 556 MB
So, what's the problem? How can I resolve this? Thanks.
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I've had that issue before, but I seemed to fix any problem like that with my rom (in the signature). It's stripped of bloated software, ect. Usually that app data space is low is due to the ram filled, at least in my experiences. I end all my current running processes and /or reboot, and the issue is resolved.
I'd think a custom rom shouldn't be needed to alleviate the low app data space issue. I was considering a rom, but I was hoping to resolve this issue before I ventured down that route.
I did delete some bloatware. Nothing critical - VZ Navigator, City ID, and... maybe one more.
Check the size of your HTC Mail and your Gmail contact caches. I used "clean dalvik cache" in titanium backup donate version and it opened up quite a bit of memory.
The fact that you rooted is probably just a coincidence. This is a known problem and you probably don't have as much memory as you think in the phone memory. You can also use App2SD to move more apps to your SD card but have to be careful with that.
I noticed your internal phone storage is almost unused. I have the same problem. Would be nice if there was an app to move apps to the internal phone storage.
Have fun with your new incredible. Try out Hyrda Kernals Stock undervolt kernal to start out with along with wireless tether to enjoy free wifi! I just did it on mine and it is awesome.
Hi and thank you for your patience
When I enter the "Quick system info" app I see that I have several storages.
Can someone please explain what are the uses for the following 2 storages?
System storage - I have 68MB free out of 250. Is t normal ?
Internal storage – 129 MB free out of 148.
Another question.
When I enter the "Processes" tab I see that every process take about 20MB is it ok ?
First of all why would you ask if it's normal? Doesn't it seem that your phone has problems, does it run crappy?
The system partition is the partition on which your system is installed and if you are not S-off can only be accessed in recovery.
The internal memory is the data partition, that is where all the apps are installed.
I don't know about the required free space on system, but if you did not remove any pre installed apps just leave it, it's fine. If you did remove pre installed apps you can move some apps form /data/app to system/app to save some space on the internal memory, but in your case that isn't necessary because you still have 129 Mb free.
About the processes, it's all fine except if you experience heavy lag, than you might need a task killer and use it every once in a while.
...and by safe I really mean a logical, usable size for caches etc. In example, a size which wouldn't give me problems when, I'm browsing in "heavy" websites, downloading through marketplace, or receiving messages and emails.
Since I got my desire and flashed the latest LeeDroid ROM, I've started installing apps like there's no tomorrow. Naturally, most of them I just try and discard, but a lot of them I just keep on my phone even if I use them once a week, or even once a month. With A2SD enabled, I currently have a whopping 188 apps installed. I think they will soon classify a psychiatric condition named after me. That leaves me with around 25mb left in Internal storage, and around 20mb remaining in A2SD.
On my Touch Pro, again, with a [censored]load of apps installed, I usually left around 30mb of free memory, just for various caches. Would it be wise to do the same for android, or should I just wait for the "low space" notification to start clearing things out?.
So I'm wondering. How much free storage you guys have on your desire? And how much would you consider it would be wise to leave free. Would a full-featured site use more than, say 10mb of cache? Would we ever need more than 10mb of cache for mail or messages? Any other serious disadvantages of having an -almost full- internal storage space?
(I already got brut mod for google maps, so maps cache ain't a problem)
Sorry for the long post and possibly needless question... insomnia at it's best
akpidis said:
... How much free storage you guys have on your desire?
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Hit the wall today...
became unstable ..
trouble getting data connections (good reception area)
Camera app not connecting to camera
slow
Down to 8MB internal free !! (cachemate only freed additional 2MB)
214 apps ;-)
A2SD(+) 1.24 GB free / 1.92GB total
Time to delete apps now
Need a better a2sd(+) or bigger phone !
Yes I think that until the memory leak in the contacts storage is fixed, we Desire users are going to have to get used to doing a hard reset every month or so. Currently have 85mb of phone storage left after a hard reset last week. Before that I was down to 12Mb.
130MB using SuperVillain. I only have around 25 apps though.
Leave 10% or more free. Less than 10% will cause things to start breaking.
memory
hi guys iv got about 110 apps or so and still got 305mb mem on my desire and thats internal memory buy using data2sd very good the only problems i got is my phone crashes and freezes now and again thing its my sd card so is going to try another
I'm using LeeDroid's ROM and am left with about 22MB - how are you lot doing an app count? I know I've got quite few apps installed. It's a shame we have to worry about this. I thought I had saw the end of it when I moved from WM6.X devices!
Apps2ext/data2sd (or variants) seems to be the way forward, but as said, there seem to be stability issues at the moment.
The new Nexus S comes with 16GB nand memory - this is what all android phones should have had from the beginning - bigger internal memory.
WARNING, dont get it wrong.
The new Nexus S indeed has 16GB memory ...
But only 1GB for internal memory where you can use to install app.
It has 13 GB as "emulated SD card".
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868772
sh500 said:
I'm using LeeDroid's ROM and am left with about 22MB - how are you lot doing an app count? I know I've got quite few apps installed. It's a shame we have to worry about this. I thought I had saw the end of it when I moved from WM6.X devices!
Apps2ext/data2sd (or variants) seems to be the way forward, but as said, there seem to be stability issues at the moment.
The new Nexus S comes with 16GB nand memory - this is what all android phones should have had from the beginning - bigger internal memory.
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That's still a lot of apps to be stored in 1GB! If that guy up there fit 200ish apps in around our 140MB of space with A2SD+, then theoretically you could put like nearly 1000 apps on the nexus S!
Ah I see...I take that back then!
How comes Apple can do it with their phones but none that are running Android can?? Is it simply a cost thing?
It's obviously apparent that many Android users are installing apps/games mounting way over 500MB.
Got data2ext and have 1.7GB free. I left some directories on the internal storage and created some links. I have to say it working pretty well. Almost no performance lost. Only noticed performance issue while playing asphalt hd.
But the internal storage of nexus s is a step forward. But still more improvement needed. Once they fix those storage issues we will get greater and bigger apps.
R
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paulgun said:
214 apps ;-)
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down to only 172 apps (29 MB internal free)...
I Figure I could get another 100MB internal free by repackaging
a ROM by removing 99% of the install packages
and installing manually from copies from the FAT32 Sdcard after first boot.
This fresh install would push most of the installed files to the A2SD+ ext3 part of the sdcard.
Seems a waste of space having over 100MB flashed on r/o ROM storage,
taking away from internal:
/data/app/*.apk [9 MB]
/system/app/*.apk [98 MB] {HTC* 30MB }
/system/customize/resource/bootanimation.zip [2 MB]
Anyone tried this approach?
I suspect knowing what to leave to have a minimal system is the trick?
Can I boot with 0 system apps installed ?
I'm thinking "why not" , I can use the command line adb , so I don't think
I even need a gui or fileexplorer app at all ?
Will think about it when the latest LeeDroid has stablised... TBA
65 apps installed, for 55 MB total, and I've got 16MB of free internal storage...
Seriously, I'm reading a lot of thread on this matter and I can't figure out: what's wrong with this phone internal memory?
HTC States 512MB Rom and 576MB RAM (can't put the link here 'cause I'm noob but you can google it), if I'm not wrong the Rom is the apps storage, right?
With DiskUsage I see 147MB of total internal storage memory (a recurrent number, but on the threads I read no one seems to care about the 365MB vanished like fog in the mouring), occupied for a good 90% by apps, cache and data.
I've the official last Froyo Update (I only rooted it with unrevoked and substituted the recovery but the ROM is the official one), and I've set on SD card all the apps that permit it.
Yes I know that I must install app2sd and I'm shure I will do it soon, but that is not the point.
The point is: please, someone can explain to me where I'm wrong in my calculations, or what bug or know issue I'm missing?
spile wrote: "Yes I think that until the memory leak in the contacts storage is fixed..." but again: even this search lead me to an endless list of topics in wich someone say: "Hey my contacts storage on HTC Desire is 40MB, how's that? " and someone other: "Use apps2sd 'cause HTC is bad".
Worst: that's not my case, my contacts storage state 3MB.
Again I know that in a way or another I'm ending this with apps2sd, but again I say it's not my point: my point is I want to undestand where is the problem and, most of all, if complaining directly to HTC is a waste o time that put me as the last one in a row of people condemned to ***** about HTC Desire's memory for the rest of their's life
Sorry for the long rant but I've done my search (at least I've tried, maybe I missed that one topic of revelations) and I want to put all the informations on the table so to not waste more time of yours ^^;;;
Thanks anyway
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HTC Desire, software version: 2.29.405.2, rooted with unrevoked 3.
paulgun said:
I Figure I could get another 100MB internal free by repackaging
a ROM by removing 99% of the install packages
and installing manually from copies from the FAT32 Sdcard after first boot.
This fresh install would push most of the installed files to the A2SD+ ext3 part of the sdcard.
Seems a waste of space having over 100MB flashed on r/o ROM storage,
taking away from internal:
/data/app/*.apk [9 MB]
/system/app/*.apk [98 MB] {HTC* 30MB }
/system/customize/resource/bootanimation.zip [2 MB]
Anyone tried this approach?
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On second thoughts, it appears freeing space in /system,
won't really help /data much, so this would not help:
androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/220627-faq-apps2sd-2.html#post1952939
sh500 said:
Apps2ext/data2sd (or variants) seems to be the way forward, but as said, there seem to be stability issues at the moment.
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After trying a dozen other things, I'd have to agree...
forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1598676#r2
Hit another wall today...
215+apps ;-)
A small number of apps won't install, even though >1GB internal free
using data2sd method.
talking-santa-free
raging-thunder-2-lite
The logs show it failed due to internal space
Perhaps /cache is too small now ?
im using my own cooked rom, and have atleast 300 apps installed, and i have 58mb free internal storage with 22mb cache partition, 190mb system partition and 222mb data partition
100mb free after 144 apps installed. Have N1table for data partition of 200mb. And app2sd helps a bit. No need for data2ext
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I've installed about 20mb of apps (fb @ 4.8mb, music app 5mb, rest = 10x<1mb apps w/ no cache usage) yet still only have about 14mb. Somehow I'm missing 100mb ish on a RUU'd Desire. Annoying.
Cirunz said:
65 apps installed, for 55 MB total, and I've got 16MB of free internal storage...
Seriously, I'm reading a lot of thread on this matter and I can't figure out: what's wrong with this phone internal memory?
HTC States 512MB Rom and 576MB RAM (can't put the link here 'cause I'm noob but you can google it), if I'm not wrong the Rom is the apps storage, right?
With DiskUsage I see 147MB of total internal storage memory (a recurrent number, but on the threads I read no one seems to care about the 365MB vanished like fog in the mouring), occupied for a good 90% by apps, cache and data.
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It did not vanish, the 365 mb is used by android system files and other stuff HTC throws into the phone. In theory, we only have 140+ mb to install apps.
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hey all
well y HOX has about 15 gig free on the storage... but the internal storage is full.or about to be..
apps about 300 Mb. And then it shows "other" about 6 gig!
wich leves me with about 200 mb free...
i have moved all apps to phone memory.
but how do i access that partiton wichs is nealy full ?
i want to see whay the "other" 6 gig is...and delte some of it.
i am running newest viper venom / 3.7.7
Thanks
intercode said:
hey all
well y HOX has about 15 gig free on the storage... but the internal storage is full.or about to be..
apps about 300 Mb. And then it shows "other" about 6 gig!
wich leves me with about 200 mb free...
i have moved all apps to phone memory.
but how do i access that partiton wichs is nealy full ?
i want to see whay the "other" 6 gig is...and delte some of it.
i am running newest viper venom / 3.7.7
Thanks
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'App Storage' as displayed by Sense is an accumulation of the TOTAL available space as distinct from 'Phone Storage'.
It includes ALL installed files and their associated data including the entire ROM and it's built-in apps, which is what occupies the 'Other' heading. Reserved space, like the unused part of /system and /cache, are counted as USED space in the Storage app. This is part of the reason 'Other' is so big.
You can reduce the usage of 'Other' by using ROMCleaner or Titanium Backup to remove those pre-installed apps you do not want/need.
But there is a limit to what can be done. Be careful not to uninstall anything necessary for the system to operate properly.
As for user-installed apps, post-ROM installation, they are allocated to the 2GB /data partition.
You can also use Titanium Backup to install apps to /system, making use of the slack space in that partition.
Titanium Backup can also be used to move these apps to SD, which in the HOX's case is just as fast as the other partitions since it has no seperate SD card.
EDIT: It's ALSO worth pointing out that there is NO clear documentation or official word from HTC about what exactly 'Other' is or why it occupies so much space. There have been MANY discussions about this, in this very forum (search is your friend BTW)...so the above is best-guess and trial and error.
Thank you for your detailed reply !
i will start looking into it right away!
thank you again!
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Hi guys,
I don't know what's happening with my gf's wildfire S. How much space should be left free after flashing a rom (with gapps)? I've tried couple and all I've got left is around 50MB from fresh install and around 30MB after auto updates. Is this normal?
I've done everything I could to free more space. Moved most apps to ext4 partition on a SD card but. Deleted a lot of unnecessary things but still she's got like 5MB space left on internal memory with 5 apps installed and moved to SD card.
WTF? She wants to kill me for messing with her phone and not helping.
I followed this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45401294 tried couple of roms but no luck. As of now MarvellousSense][2.3.5 sense 2.1]( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256576 ) is installed but same low memory problem. (((((((((((((
tomkkkk said:
Hi guys,
I don't know what's happening with my gf's wildfire S. How much space should be left free after flashing a rom (with gapps)? I've tried couple and all I've got left is around 50MB from fresh install and around 30MB after auto updates. Is this normal?
I've done everything I could to free more space. Moved most apps to ext4 partition on a SD card but. Deleted a lot of unnecessary things but still she's got like 5MB space left on internal memory with 5 apps installed and moved to SD card.
WTF? She wants to kill me for messing with her phone and not helping.
I followed this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45401294 tried couple of roms but no luck. As of now MarvellousSense][2.3.5 sense 2.1]( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256576 ) is installed but same low memory problem. (((((((((((((
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1. Using a "minimal" GApps package will help a little
2. The device has only 150MB internal storage. Even if you use mini Gapps you will not have more than ~80MB
3. To solve the problem just use a rom that is int2ext compatible. 512MB (Will be the new storage amount) is a good and reliable size for the ext partition (If you dont know about setting up the sd for int2ext --> google it as i'm tired of typing instructions for questions that are solved a houndred times...)
4. Stock rom int2ext compatible can be found LINK
5. Want a newer android version? CM 10.1 ran reliable for a long time on my WFS
6. MAKE SURE TO READ AND UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING BEFORE FLASHING
7. NEVER MESS UP YOUR GIRL'S DEVICE
tomkkkk said:
Hi guys,
I don't know what's happening with my gf's wildfire S. How much space should be left free after flashing a rom (with gapps)? I've tried couple and all I've got left is around 50MB from fresh install and around 30MB after auto updates. Is this normal?
I've done everything I could to free more space. Moved most apps to ext4 partition on a SD card but. Deleted a lot of unnecessary things but still she's got like 5MB space left on internal memory with 5 apps installed and moved to SD card.
WTF? She wants to kill me for messing with her phone and not helping.
I followed this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45401294 tried couple of roms but no luck. As of now MarvellousSense][2.3.5 sense 2.1]( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256576 ) is installed but same low memory problem. (((((((((((((
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I would suggest to try this ROM-- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50428735&postcount=1404
It's odexed and has a 100 MB free space in /data after installation. BTW you will have to find some slim Gapps from somewhere as it does not have much /system memory free. Flashing Gapps have nothing to do with your visible internal memory. As system apps are stored in system partition(you can't see it as internal memory). And I would suggest to use Link2SD to move apps to 2nd partition of SDCard(you will have to create it but there are good tutorials like-- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432459 ). With this configuration I have 87 MB free space after installing about 20 apps. So it should work. Best of luck.