I am having a weird problem with my phone memory at the moment!
I am running CyanogenMod 6 (one of the nightlies from a couple of weeks ago) and it was running fine. I am also running DarkTremor Apps2SD with Dalvik Cache also on the SD Card.
All was fine this morning, my phone was running perfectly fine and reporting between 55-60Mb of free memory on the phone, then suddenly my phone started reporting that "Phone memory was low" and I only had 3Mb free memory on my phone?!
I have no idea why this has happened, I have formatted the Dalvik-Cache, and also checked how much space is free on my EXT partition (+/- 200Mb).
I am currently updating to the latest CM6 Nightly to see if that makes any difference, but I have no idea what to do otherwise?
I am running the standard partition table'd S-OFF HBOOT from AlphaRev.
Anyone have any ideas as to how to fix this?
Stu
I'm actually having the same problem with my Desire. It is rooted by unrevoked³ and running a Custom ROM, that's very similiar to the original HTC-ROM, but with additional A2SD+-Support, that worked perfectly just until now. (about 200 Apps in phone memory/ext2 with over 300MB)
But suddenly, it also says, the phone memory was low and i even can't get updates for my apps over the market.
I tried to enlarge the ext2-partition, but it didn't help. Still the same problem. Then i checked the free memory of the ext2-partition wthin gparted and it tells me, 400MB are free (Now it is about 700MB in total).
After this, i wiped the Dalvik Cache and the 'normal' Cache within my Clockwork Recovery Menu, but it didn't help.
Please help us.
Greetings,
Hans Eilig
I have managed to fix it, but only via a full factory wipe / reset.
I now have 40mb free. Not as much as I did, but not sure what I can do to increase it?
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Mh, i don't want to loose my apps and settings...
Does it make sense to restore a backup after wipeing? Not really, right?
And as you said, it didn't bring all the memory back.
The solution should be to have a bigger ext2-partition and therefore more memory available. But how do we enlarge that memory? Is ist even possible?
Hans Eilig said:
Mh, i don't want to loose my apps and settings...
Does it make sense to restore a backup after wipeing? Not really, right?
And as you said, it didn't bring all the memory back.
The solution should be to have a bigger ext2-partition and therefore more memory available. But how do we enlarge that memory? Is ist even possible?
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Well I restored my sd-ext partition afterwards so I got all my apps back. Not too sure how to go about increasing the available memory.
You could backup everything via titanium backup so you could at least restore your settings?
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I think using the n1 partition table hboot would give you a bit more memory anyway however I have tried that previously and I couldn't get my phone to boot after flashing.
I had to go back to the standard hboot.
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...and by safe I really mean a logical, usable size for caches etc. In example, a size which wouldn't give me problems when, I'm browsing in "heavy" websites, downloading through marketplace, or receiving messages and emails.
Since I got my desire and flashed the latest LeeDroid ROM, I've started installing apps like there's no tomorrow. Naturally, most of them I just try and discard, but a lot of them I just keep on my phone even if I use them once a week, or even once a month. With A2SD enabled, I currently have a whopping 188 apps installed. I think they will soon classify a psychiatric condition named after me. That leaves me with around 25mb left in Internal storage, and around 20mb remaining in A2SD.
On my Touch Pro, again, with a [censored]load of apps installed, I usually left around 30mb of free memory, just for various caches. Would it be wise to do the same for android, or should I just wait for the "low space" notification to start clearing things out?.
So I'm wondering. How much free storage you guys have on your desire? And how much would you consider it would be wise to leave free. Would a full-featured site use more than, say 10mb of cache? Would we ever need more than 10mb of cache for mail or messages? Any other serious disadvantages of having an -almost full- internal storage space?
(I already got brut mod for google maps, so maps cache ain't a problem)
Sorry for the long post and possibly needless question... insomnia at it's best
akpidis said:
... How much free storage you guys have on your desire?
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Hit the wall today...
became unstable ..
trouble getting data connections (good reception area)
Camera app not connecting to camera
slow
Down to 8MB internal free !! (cachemate only freed additional 2MB)
214 apps ;-)
A2SD(+) 1.24 GB free / 1.92GB total
Time to delete apps now
Need a better a2sd(+) or bigger phone !
Yes I think that until the memory leak in the contacts storage is fixed, we Desire users are going to have to get used to doing a hard reset every month or so. Currently have 85mb of phone storage left after a hard reset last week. Before that I was down to 12Mb.
130MB using SuperVillain. I only have around 25 apps though.
Leave 10% or more free. Less than 10% will cause things to start breaking.
memory
hi guys iv got about 110 apps or so and still got 305mb mem on my desire and thats internal memory buy using data2sd very good the only problems i got is my phone crashes and freezes now and again thing its my sd card so is going to try another
I'm using LeeDroid's ROM and am left with about 22MB - how are you lot doing an app count? I know I've got quite few apps installed. It's a shame we have to worry about this. I thought I had saw the end of it when I moved from WM6.X devices!
Apps2ext/data2sd (or variants) seems to be the way forward, but as said, there seem to be stability issues at the moment.
The new Nexus S comes with 16GB nand memory - this is what all android phones should have had from the beginning - bigger internal memory.
WARNING, dont get it wrong.
The new Nexus S indeed has 16GB memory ...
But only 1GB for internal memory where you can use to install app.
It has 13 GB as "emulated SD card".
Read this:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=868772
sh500 said:
I'm using LeeDroid's ROM and am left with about 22MB - how are you lot doing an app count? I know I've got quite few apps installed. It's a shame we have to worry about this. I thought I had saw the end of it when I moved from WM6.X devices!
Apps2ext/data2sd (or variants) seems to be the way forward, but as said, there seem to be stability issues at the moment.
The new Nexus S comes with 16GB nand memory - this is what all android phones should have had from the beginning - bigger internal memory.
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That's still a lot of apps to be stored in 1GB! If that guy up there fit 200ish apps in around our 140MB of space with A2SD+, then theoretically you could put like nearly 1000 apps on the nexus S!
Ah I see...I take that back then!
How comes Apple can do it with their phones but none that are running Android can?? Is it simply a cost thing?
It's obviously apparent that many Android users are installing apps/games mounting way over 500MB.
Got data2ext and have 1.7GB free. I left some directories on the internal storage and created some links. I have to say it working pretty well. Almost no performance lost. Only noticed performance issue while playing asphalt hd.
But the internal storage of nexus s is a step forward. But still more improvement needed. Once they fix those storage issues we will get greater and bigger apps.
R
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paulgun said:
214 apps ;-)
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down to only 172 apps (29 MB internal free)...
I Figure I could get another 100MB internal free by repackaging
a ROM by removing 99% of the install packages
and installing manually from copies from the FAT32 Sdcard after first boot.
This fresh install would push most of the installed files to the A2SD+ ext3 part of the sdcard.
Seems a waste of space having over 100MB flashed on r/o ROM storage,
taking away from internal:
/data/app/*.apk [9 MB]
/system/app/*.apk [98 MB] {HTC* 30MB }
/system/customize/resource/bootanimation.zip [2 MB]
Anyone tried this approach?
I suspect knowing what to leave to have a minimal system is the trick?
Can I boot with 0 system apps installed ?
I'm thinking "why not" , I can use the command line adb , so I don't think
I even need a gui or fileexplorer app at all ?
Will think about it when the latest LeeDroid has stablised... TBA
65 apps installed, for 55 MB total, and I've got 16MB of free internal storage...
Seriously, I'm reading a lot of thread on this matter and I can't figure out: what's wrong with this phone internal memory?
HTC States 512MB Rom and 576MB RAM (can't put the link here 'cause I'm noob but you can google it), if I'm not wrong the Rom is the apps storage, right?
With DiskUsage I see 147MB of total internal storage memory (a recurrent number, but on the threads I read no one seems to care about the 365MB vanished like fog in the mouring), occupied for a good 90% by apps, cache and data.
I've the official last Froyo Update (I only rooted it with unrevoked and substituted the recovery but the ROM is the official one), and I've set on SD card all the apps that permit it.
Yes I know that I must install app2sd and I'm shure I will do it soon, but that is not the point.
The point is: please, someone can explain to me where I'm wrong in my calculations, or what bug or know issue I'm missing?
spile wrote: "Yes I think that until the memory leak in the contacts storage is fixed..." but again: even this search lead me to an endless list of topics in wich someone say: "Hey my contacts storage on HTC Desire is 40MB, how's that? " and someone other: "Use apps2sd 'cause HTC is bad".
Worst: that's not my case, my contacts storage state 3MB.
Again I know that in a way or another I'm ending this with apps2sd, but again I say it's not my point: my point is I want to undestand where is the problem and, most of all, if complaining directly to HTC is a waste o time that put me as the last one in a row of people condemned to ***** about HTC Desire's memory for the rest of their's life
Sorry for the long rant but I've done my search (at least I've tried, maybe I missed that one topic of revelations) and I want to put all the informations on the table so to not waste more time of yours ^^;;;
Thanks anyway
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HTC Desire, software version: 2.29.405.2, rooted with unrevoked 3.
paulgun said:
I Figure I could get another 100MB internal free by repackaging
a ROM by removing 99% of the install packages
and installing manually from copies from the FAT32 Sdcard after first boot.
This fresh install would push most of the installed files to the A2SD+ ext3 part of the sdcard.
Seems a waste of space having over 100MB flashed on r/o ROM storage,
taking away from internal:
/data/app/*.apk [9 MB]
/system/app/*.apk [98 MB] {HTC* 30MB }
/system/customize/resource/bootanimation.zip [2 MB]
Anyone tried this approach?
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On second thoughts, it appears freeing space in /system,
won't really help /data much, so this would not help:
androidforums.com/desire-all-things-root/220627-faq-apps2sd-2.html#post1952939
sh500 said:
Apps2ext/data2sd (or variants) seems to be the way forward, but as said, there seem to be stability issues at the moment.
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After trying a dozen other things, I'd have to agree...
forums.whirlpool.net.au/forum-replies.cfm?t=1598676#r2
Hit another wall today...
215+apps ;-)
A small number of apps won't install, even though >1GB internal free
using data2sd method.
talking-santa-free
raging-thunder-2-lite
The logs show it failed due to internal space
Perhaps /cache is too small now ?
im using my own cooked rom, and have atleast 300 apps installed, and i have 58mb free internal storage with 22mb cache partition, 190mb system partition and 222mb data partition
100mb free after 144 apps installed. Have N1table for data partition of 200mb. And app2sd helps a bit. No need for data2ext
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I've installed about 20mb of apps (fb @ 4.8mb, music app 5mb, rest = 10x<1mb apps w/ no cache usage) yet still only have about 14mb. Somehow I'm missing 100mb ish on a RUU'd Desire. Annoying.
Cirunz said:
65 apps installed, for 55 MB total, and I've got 16MB of free internal storage...
Seriously, I'm reading a lot of thread on this matter and I can't figure out: what's wrong with this phone internal memory?
HTC States 512MB Rom and 576MB RAM (can't put the link here 'cause I'm noob but you can google it), if I'm not wrong the Rom is the apps storage, right?
With DiskUsage I see 147MB of total internal storage memory (a recurrent number, but on the threads I read no one seems to care about the 365MB vanished like fog in the mouring), occupied for a good 90% by apps, cache and data.
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It did not vanish, the 365 mb is used by android system files and other stuff HTC throws into the phone. In theory, we only have 140+ mb to install apps.
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Hi all,
Running a bit low on storage space at the moment.
In settings it says that I have 66mb internal mem free for apps but when I try to download and install an app like Google goggles (roughly 5 mb) it says internal memory low
Cleared cache on Google Play store and dalvik cache using supercharger (if that helps) but that didn't help... any suggestions?
On another note, if I install link2sd does my stock kernel ICS .562 support a ext4 partition?
Cheers!
Im getting the same issue here. Im running Official ICS and have deleted the bloatware and un-needed system apps.
My internal says 56mb but cant install apps without deleting one or two that i dont use or move to sd.
adielee said:
Hi all,
Running a bit low on storage space at the moment.
In settings it says that I have 66mb internal mem free for apps but when I try to download and install an app like Google goggles (roughly 5 mb) it says internal memory low
Cleared cache on Google Play store and dalvik cache using supercharger (if that helps) but that didn't help... any suggestions?
On another note, if I install link2sd does my stock kernel ICS .562 support a ext4 partition?
Cheers!
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Try a RAM/cache cleaner from the market, there are a few free good ones. And yes, ext4 is supported.
Sceptical of so many memory "fixes" I did grab one for the market, Memory Booster Lite (Tablet) by Imoblife Inc. I thought I don't need more menory I need more space, was down to 37 megs out of 252 after moving all I could to SD, and only installed not even 20 apps. After install not even a reboot, back up to 122. I sure hope that some fixes are in the works for ICS updates as the internal memory on my GB 2.3.6 phone is 1.5 gigs and again only 252 megs on my ICS 4.03 tablet. When someone comes up with a way to "partition magic" these parts let me know becasue this is nuts.
Thanks again for the insight as I can now continue to load up my tablet with useless stuff
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Try a RAM/cache cleaner from the market, there are a few free good ones. And yes, ext4 is supported.
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Thanks for your response. I have tried quite a few of these cleaners but they don't really do the job for me. Ram/cache cleaners seem to be temporary and for cache it just builds itself up again after a reboot.
Managed to delete some useless system apps/data which has also sped up my system quite a bit.
I will give the ext4 a try when I get some time.
Cheers,
I also have the same problem but worse I only use about 7 phone only apps roughly 50mb altogether and it says I only got 9% (about 36mb) left.
Last time this happened I wiped my phone, but as the weeks go by the free memory keeps going down even though I don't install anything else.
I currently use zdbox task killer & official Sony rom.
If someone can find a solution to this, please tell.
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i think you can try use ext 2 if problem with ext4..
or you can partition your sd card via recovery, and give swap memory about 256MB..
install link2 sd aplication and then choose ext 2 (first time you open link2sd app)
and reboot your phone..
and from link2sd app you can move all apps to sd card..
you can also make link2sd automatic link your apps..
you should use the app link2sd to solve that problem...
Don't think you understand.. all the apps I installed in the phone should only take about 10% memory including cache etc.
I rooted and pretty much moved every app. The only ones that stayed were for stability reasons such as smart keyboard or beautiful widgets.
Basically only solution I found so far is a hard reset, but after about 4 months it will be back to 9% again.
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Hi guys,
I don't know what's happening with my gf's wildfire S. How much space should be left free after flashing a rom (with gapps)? I've tried couple and all I've got left is around 50MB from fresh install and around 30MB after auto updates. Is this normal?
I've done everything I could to free more space. Moved most apps to ext4 partition on a SD card but. Deleted a lot of unnecessary things but still she's got like 5MB space left on internal memory with 5 apps installed and moved to SD card.
WTF? She wants to kill me for messing with her phone and not helping.
I followed this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45401294 tried couple of roms but no luck. As of now MarvellousSense][2.3.5 sense 2.1]( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256576 ) is installed but same low memory problem. (((((((((((((
tomkkkk said:
Hi guys,
I don't know what's happening with my gf's wildfire S. How much space should be left free after flashing a rom (with gapps)? I've tried couple and all I've got left is around 50MB from fresh install and around 30MB after auto updates. Is this normal?
I've done everything I could to free more space. Moved most apps to ext4 partition on a SD card but. Deleted a lot of unnecessary things but still she's got like 5MB space left on internal memory with 5 apps installed and moved to SD card.
WTF? She wants to kill me for messing with her phone and not helping.
I followed this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45401294 tried couple of roms but no luck. As of now MarvellousSense][2.3.5 sense 2.1]( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256576 ) is installed but same low memory problem. (((((((((((((
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1. Using a "minimal" GApps package will help a little
2. The device has only 150MB internal storage. Even if you use mini Gapps you will not have more than ~80MB
3. To solve the problem just use a rom that is int2ext compatible. 512MB (Will be the new storage amount) is a good and reliable size for the ext partition (If you dont know about setting up the sd for int2ext --> google it as i'm tired of typing instructions for questions that are solved a houndred times...)
4. Stock rom int2ext compatible can be found LINK
5. Want a newer android version? CM 10.1 ran reliable for a long time on my WFS
6. MAKE SURE TO READ AND UNDERSTAND EVERYTHING BEFORE FLASHING
7. NEVER MESS UP YOUR GIRL'S DEVICE
tomkkkk said:
Hi guys,
I don't know what's happening with my gf's wildfire S. How much space should be left free after flashing a rom (with gapps)? I've tried couple and all I've got left is around 50MB from fresh install and around 30MB after auto updates. Is this normal?
I've done everything I could to free more space. Moved most apps to ext4 partition on a SD card but. Deleted a lot of unnecessary things but still she's got like 5MB space left on internal memory with 5 apps installed and moved to SD card.
WTF? She wants to kill me for messing with her phone and not helping.
I followed this guide: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?p=45401294 tried couple of roms but no luck. As of now MarvellousSense][2.3.5 sense 2.1]( http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2256576 ) is installed but same low memory problem. (((((((((((((
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I would suggest to try this ROM-- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=50428735&postcount=1404
It's odexed and has a 100 MB free space in /data after installation. BTW you will have to find some slim Gapps from somewhere as it does not have much /system memory free. Flashing Gapps have nothing to do with your visible internal memory. As system apps are stored in system partition(you can't see it as internal memory). And I would suggest to use Link2SD to move apps to 2nd partition of SDCard(you will have to create it but there are good tutorials like-- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1432459 ). With this configuration I have 87 MB free space after installing about 20 apps. So it should work. Best of luck.