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Can anyone please explain what AOKP is? I know it stands for Android Open Kang Project, but what is Kang? I've tried searching the forums here and in RootzWiki as well as a general Google search and I've come up with nothing that is helpful.
I've seen a lot of AOKP roms, but no explanation as to exactly what they are, although I've noticed that many of them have a lot of the CM9 mods.
Thank You!
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure "Kang" is just the name of the team that develops the ROM.
Kinbote said:
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure "Kang" is just the name of the team that develops the ROM.
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im not sure if that was what it meant to begin with, but these days it means a rom compiled by a person rather than a server.
so most of CM's roms are compiled automatically by there servers. However some people make CM Kangs by taking the source and compiling it them selves. This means they can add all the commits/mods/features which the servers have but dont have assisgned to the roms for various reasons.
So Kangs will often have slightly newer features and are also less likely to have issues because a user has gone through and made sure everything is in the rom(Hopefully). where as the servers wont know if a driver is broken/missing.
You can also get kangs of other roms i suppose. sorry if i repeated myself
Kang
The process of creating a code based of someone else's code or reapplying code that someone else created into your own code (e.g. git cherry-pick)
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Terminology
AOKP is a play on AOSP, the Android Open Source Project.
AOKP is basically any rom made by or from the CyanogenMod source. It it NOT true CyanogenMod however.
Oh, well I was completely off. Thanks for the corrections.
neok44 said:
AOKP is a play on AOSP, the Android Open Source Project.
AOKP is basically any rom made by or from the CyanogenMod source. It it NOT true CyanogenMod however.
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AOKP is actually not from CM source. As you can see in his ROM thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402341 it has nothing to do with CM9 kangs.
It's just a play off AOSP and the general status of the Android community. AOKP is build from AOSP source, not CM9, even though I use bits and pieces of it. If you look, most of the features to AOKP are unique .
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i stand corrected. i thought it was due to their use of the word in almost everything.
Interesting.
It certainly has the oddest boot animation of the lot. Trés cute..
Thanks Roman!
Romanbb said:
It's just a play off AOSP and the general status of the Android community. AOKP is build from AOSP source, not CM9, even though I use bits and pieces of it. If you look, most of the features to AOKP are unique .
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oh....... I thought it was a reference to chess ....Android Opening King Pawn 1st...... Thx for clearing that up...........
Wow! Thanks for all the responses. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who didn't know what it meant, but I think I have a better idea now. But why use Kang instead of Source (AOKP instead of AOSP) if it's built from source? I was always afraid to flash an AOKP ROM because I didn't know what it was and just thought that it was a ROM in its early alpha stages and had a ton of bugs.
Thanks again!!!
erik1213 said:
Wow! Thanks for all the responses. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who didn't know what it meant, but I think I have a better idea now. But why use Kang instead of Source (AOKP instead of AOSP) if it's built from source? I was always afraid to flash an AOKP ROM because I didn't know what it was and just thought that it was a ROM in its early alpha stages and had a ton of bugs.
Thanks again!!!
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Because AOSP is pure stock Android. With AOKP, new features are being added in. So calling his ROM AOSP when its not AOSP is misleading.
AOKP is just simply a name of a ROM. Developers can give their ROM names anything they'd like. AOKP is certainly not buggy and I use it as a daily driver (even on nightlies). Very good ROM and maintained with updates
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Because AOSP is pure stock Android. With AOKP, new features are being added in. So calling his ROM AOSP when its not AOSP is misleading.
AOKP is just simply a name of a ROM. Developers can give their ROM names anything they'd like. AOKP is certainly not buggy and I use it as a daily driver (even on nightlies). Very good ROM and maintained with updates
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Ok, great! I'm coming from the original Incredible and have never heard of AOKP til now, so thanks for helping clarify for me. Looks like AOKP might be my next ROM choice
Thanks to the OP for creating this thread, I was wondering the same thing.
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Ok, great! I'm coming from the original Incredible and have never heard of AOKP til now, so thanks for helping clarify for me. Looks like AOKP might be my next ROM choice
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You're welcome. I've never heard of it either but I just always assumed it was a name of a ROM
I recommend using franco's kernel with the ROM. Both of them push out updates every other day. You can always wait for feedback on the kernel before flashing but they're usually both good to go in terms of stability
There's a lot of debate about what kang actually means. From what I've read it's developed to mean anytime you take bits and pieces of code from other people and incorporate them into your own mod. If you didn't write it then you "kanged" it from someone else. Someone else probably knows the original origin of the word, but at least this gives a good definition.
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so they are or aren't based off of Klingon technology?
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Is there a difference and if so, what is the difference?
each has changelogs afaik , im using aokp and love it. cant speak for cm yet and unless im mistaken arent they all kangs right now ?
Flash them both, and have a look. It takes all of 5 minutes to flash a ROM. I used the CM9 builds on my Desire, not much of the CM9 extras are working, I'm not sure if that's the same for the Prime.
AOKP has extensive working tweaks, that much I do know.
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difference is its features. cm9 is still in the works so a lot of the options you find in CM7 devices arent present yet.
On zephiK's recommendation I installed AOKP and don't see myself changing. It's a solid ROM.
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Is there a difference and if so, what is the difference?
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There will be. There will be.
But for starters, AOPK is like Cyanogenmod, in the sense that both are based in AOSP. Neither are finished, at their current stages.
Im going from CM9 Kang to AOKP right now. CM9 was getting a little laggy for me (when moving around homescreens). And im sold by the AOKP tweaks
Reading the op of both rom threads can answer this
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Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
azn android said:
Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
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AOSP is Android Open Source Project, Android before manufacturers get their hands on it and install Sense or Touch Wiz. Essentially the Nexus Primes OS. AOKP is Android Open Kang Project a modified AOSP ROM made by Team Kang, with more bells and whistles than the stock Nexus ROM. Hope this helps.
azn android said:
Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
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AOSP - Android Open Source Project. Simply put, this is Android straight from Google, with no modifications. This is what you have on your phone. All of the ROMs here are built on AOSP - most, like AOKP, add modifications, while some don't.
AOKP - Android Open Kang Project. A ROM by Romanbb and his friends, built on AOSP, that adds many modifications and tweaks that aim to improve the end-user experience.
Yes it does thank you! So basically AOSP and AOKP are categories of the type of ROM a ROM is? Are there any other projects or are these the only two ones? Which one offers more stability and fluidness in the OS?
azn android said:
Yes it does thank you! So basically AOSP and AOKP are categories of the type of ROM a ROM is? Are there any other projects or are these the only two ones? Which one offers more stability and fluidness in the OS?
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Almost.
AOSP is the version of Android that comes straight from Google. Manufacturers (such as Samsung, HTC, Motorola, etc) usually like to take AOSP ROMs and add their own modifications to it - and that's how we got Samsung's Touchwiz, HTC's Sense, Motorola's MotoBlur, etc.
However, Google partners up each year with a manufacturer to release a Nexus device. These devices are special in that they always come with AOSP, and because of that, they are always the first to receive updates to the Android OS, and are for the most part the devices with the most developer support on forums such as XDA.
AOKP isn't a type of ROM in itself - it is just a name given to a specific ROM. Like AOKP, you have for example CyanogenMod, which is yet a different ROM. Because we have a Nexus device, all of the ROMs you'll see in our development section are all built straight on AOSP. There are many ROMs out there, all unique in their own way, and the best way to find out which one is right for you is simply to try them all out. It may be scary at first, but after your 1st or 2nd flash, you'll become addicted for a few weeks
Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
azn android said:
Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
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It's not, where did you read that? CM9 will be built from the ground up using the AOSP released by Google back in November.
Kang are using the Cyanogen GitHub to compile a CM9 beta ROM, as as far as I know, CM haven't released any betas (do they even release beta ROMs?) As far as I know they just go for a final build which is as stable as stable can be, people can't wait for the final builds and build ROMs using their work so we can try them as they are developed by the CM team.
That's my understanding of it anyways.
Oh my bad. I jumped to conclusions when I read the title to this post haha.
azn android said:
Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
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CM is not built off of Kang. Kang is simply a term used to denote a compiled build of a ROM by someone other than that ROM's team or "authorized dealer". For example, User A compiles CM, changed a few lines in the code, and then publishes it here as his own work. That is a kang, and its highly frowned upon.
The reason the CM thread is labeled a "kang" is because there are no official builds of CM9 coming straight from CM yet - they're just experimental builds as of now. The reason why its allowed, is because recognized members of the CM team are releasing them.
I unfortunately don't even have my Nexus yet, but its coming in two days and I'm getting my feet wet. However, from what I've been exposed to, one of the more popular combinations around here seem to be AOKP with Franco's kernel.
I strongly advise you not to flash anything yet, though. You seem motivated to be here, which is good - but you also seem to not know too much about the world of Android yet.
Please, take the time to read through the following links:
Basic Android Terminology
Galaxy Nexus Frequently Asked Questions
Different Guides and Tutorials for the Galaxy Nexus
After you've finished, you'll be a little more familiar with Android and how stuff works. If you have questions, I strongly advise you to search Google and XDA first - I can almost guarantee your question has already been answered before
If you searched, but couldn't find an answer, please post in the Q&A sub-forum - there are many members like myself who love to help new users who are willing to take the time to learn themselves, without expecting others to do their work for them.
Finally, as a general rule, don't post stuff in the development sub-forum that aren't specifically development related. Yes, if you'll go through them, you'll probably see a bunch of posts that aren't tied in directly to development - but two wrongs don't make a right if you have a question about a specific ROM, usually the answer is right in that ROM's thread - if it isn't, most ROMs have IRC chatrooms set up, and if they don't - consider making a thread in the Q&A sub-forum.
Pardon the noobish question, but with the release of AOSP Sources for 4.0.4, I'm wondering: How much duplication goes on between ROM devs and AOSP devs?
When ROM devs and Kernel devs are tweaking kernels, are they fixing and optimizing the same things as AOSP devs? Or are they more often working on two different sides of the code, and fixes from one side advance the state of the art for the other?
Another way to put this: Right now, I'm using a custom kernel. Is it likely that a 4.0.4-based custom kernel will actually offer improvements over the current 4.0.3-based version of the same dev's kernel? Or have devs already made most of the tweaks that the AOSP devs did, resulting in a very modest improvement.
I'm just trying to temper my excitement a bit. I know that 4.0.4 would likely be huge coming from stock 4.0.2, but if the ROM devs are already well ahead of the AOSP folks, I won't expect 4.0.4 Gummy to be that different than 4.0.3 Gummy (for instance).
The devs merge the new code and stay current. They keep their tweaks too etc.
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The devs merge the new code and stay current. They keep their tweaks too etc.
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I understand, but I'm wondering how often the Dev tweaks ARE the new changes in a new AOSP release.
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I understand, but I'm wondering how often the Dev tweaks ARE the new changes in a new AOSP release.
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Thats pretty rare, though may happen once in a while. Mostly the devs work on new features code and additions. I'll try to think of an example and post if it comes to me.
RogerPodacter said:
Thats pretty rare, though may happen once in a while. Mostly the devs work on new features code and additions. I'll try to think of an example and post if it comes to me.
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The only one I can think of is the swyping of the notifications
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I haven't had any luck in finding material to explain: what exactly is CAF and Non-Caf?
Bonus points for the bonus question: is theme manager no longer available on tablets? None of the 4-3 or 4-4 ROMs I've tried seemed to have had it.
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Jamesyboy said:
I haven't had any luck in finding material to explain: what exactly is CAF and Non-Caf?
Bonus points for the bonus question: is theme manager no longer available on tablets? None of the 4-3 or 4-4 ROMs I've tried seemed to have had it.
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CAF kernels are meant for CM roms, like official CM Rom, ports of it and (maybe PAC-man)
So those that aren't based on CM kernels and are running stock, like PA, AOKP etc than their kernels will be non- CAF
Regarding theme managers, it based on the roms that you picked. For eg, you cant find them in AICP build and some of the 4.4.x rom but if you were to go for the 4.3.x based roms, you're able to find theme manger in there
Caf stands for code aurora forum which is a consortium of various mobile companies of which qualcomm is a part of. The kernel source that caf churns out has cpu optimizations that come directly from qualcomm, which in turn provide better performance and battery life than aosp based kernels.
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Caf stands for code aurora forum which is a consortium of various mobile companies of which qualcomm is a part of. The kernel source that caf churns out has cpu optimizations that come directly from qualcomm, which in turn provide better performance and battery life than aosp based kernels.
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I tried both CAF kernel and AOSP derived ones and don't seem to be able to see much of a difference in performance NOR battery life. And seems I'm not a big fan of CM, I would just flash the AOSP derived kernels that are packed with the rom
Jamesyboy said:
I haven't had any luck in finding material to explain: what exactly is CAF and Non-Caf?
Bonus points for the bonus question: is theme manager no longer available on tablets? None of the 4-3 or 4-4 ROMs I've tried seemed to have had it.
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How on earth are we supposed to tell? Haha, even the Devs that mention it, like faux, tell you to pick the right version....."car version here..." The problem? Neither are labelled as caf, or non-caf. I suppose the aosp/cm distinction is what gets me. I thought the stock ROM, as well as cm was based off aosp. Neither the ROMs nor the kernels are labelling (a couple have...but most don't even mention it).
The main reason I even bother is because the sound is awefully low....faux sound support or a comparable volume boost is the main feature I'm looking for.
If you happen to know one or two popular kernels that are car/non car, can you mention them by name or link to them?
I'm going to be running slimkat, aosb, or PA (once PA has PA features).
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How on earth are we supposed to tell? Haha, even the Devs that mention it, like faux, tell you to pick the right version....."car version here..." The problem? Neither are labelled as caf, or non-caf. I suppose the aosp/cm distinction is what gets me. I thought the stock ROM, as well as cm was based off aosp. Neither the ROMs nor the kernels are labelling (a couple have...but most don't even mention it).
The main reason I even bother is because the sound is awefully low....faux sound support or a comparable volume boost is the main feature I'm looking for.
If you happen to know one or two popular kernels that are car/non car, can you mention them by name or link to them?
I'm going to be running slimkat, aosb, or PA (once PA has PA features).
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Here's a quick status info as of what rom needs CAF or not
CAF based roms:
- CM (and other derivative)
- PAC-man
- AOSB
AOSP based roms:
- Stock
- Slimkat
- PA
- Carbon
Kernels:
CAF and AOSP support
- Faux
- Glitch
- XGenesis
AOSP support only
- Franco
- ElementalX
Hope it clears some thoughts.
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Guys is there any nougat AOSP based Roms for oneplus 3 ? (AOSP based not CM)
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Akhayev said:
Guys is there any nougat AOSP based Roms for oneplus 3 ? (AOSP based not CM)
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Only Tesla N as of now
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Only Tesla N as of now
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Yeah, only Tesla N. I wish there were more. I prefer AOSP. Perhaps it will change when official 7.1 comes out for our OP3.
Djalaal said:
Yeah, only Tesla N. I wish there were more. I prefer AOSP. Perhaps it will change when official 7.1 comes out for our OP3.
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Is there much of a difference between AOSP and CM based ROMs? Last time I read the Tesla thread it was mentioned that it had most of the same bugs that CM currently has.
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Is there much of a difference between AOSP and CM based ROMs? Last time I read the Tesla thread it was mentioned that it had most of the same bugs that CM currently has.
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I don't know whether they have similar bugs, but bugs are temporary so I don't take it into account when comparing between AOSP and CM. Bugs becomes even less of an issue when there aren't any serious ones. And neither have significant bugs atm imho.
No, bugs isn't the reason I like AOSP. I like AOSP because 1. Substratum theme engine, 2. This:
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The more I use CyanogenMod, the more I notice its lack of optimizations.
AOSPA is miles better in terms of device specific optimizations(kernel and entire ROM base).
Not to mention that it's way bugless than CyanogenMod. Nougat will be stabilized quite soon.
However, AOSPA is not all that feature-packed like CyanogenMod.
And I'll be porting some CM features over to AOSPA myself.
I hope to see you guys moving for the future the same way
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I don't know whether they have similar bugs, but bugs are temporary so I don't take it into account when comparing between AOSP and CM. Bugs becomes even less of an issue when there aren't any serious ones. And neither have significant bugs atm imho.
No, bugs isn't the reason I like AOSP. I like AOSP because 1. Substratum theme engine, 2. This:
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You do realize that arter is talking about AOSPA, not AOSP, right? AOSPA for non-nexus devices is not based on AOSP.
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You do realize that arter is talking about AOSPA, not AOSP, right? AOSPA for non-nexus devices is not based on AOSP.
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Holy.... You are right, and I completely missed that. All this while I've read it as AOSP. AOSPA is Paranoid Android right? PA is based on what exactly? CM? But that wouldn't make much sense cause Arter said he is leaving CM development for AOSPA development??
AOSPA is a CAF branch.