Is there a difference and if so, what is the difference?
each has changelogs afaik , im using aokp and love it. cant speak for cm yet and unless im mistaken arent they all kangs right now ?
Flash them both, and have a look. It takes all of 5 minutes to flash a ROM. I used the CM9 builds on my Desire, not much of the CM9 extras are working, I'm not sure if that's the same for the Prime.
AOKP has extensive working tweaks, that much I do know.
aokp
difference is its features. cm9 is still in the works so a lot of the options you find in CM7 devices arent present yet.
On zephiK's recommendation I installed AOKP and don't see myself changing. It's a solid ROM.
hondaboi20002 said:
Is there a difference and if so, what is the difference?
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There will be. There will be.
But for starters, AOPK is like Cyanogenmod, in the sense that both are based in AOSP. Neither are finished, at their current stages.
Im going from CM9 Kang to AOKP right now. CM9 was getting a little laggy for me (when moving around homescreens). And im sold by the AOKP tweaks
Reading the op of both rom threads can answer this
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Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
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Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
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AOSP is Android Open Source Project, Android before manufacturers get their hands on it and install Sense or Touch Wiz. Essentially the Nexus Primes OS. AOKP is Android Open Kang Project a modified AOSP ROM made by Team Kang, with more bells and whistles than the stock Nexus ROM. Hope this helps.
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Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
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Fresh blood
AOSP - Android Open Source Project. Simply put, this is Android straight from Google, with no modifications. This is what you have on your phone. All of the ROMs here are built on AOSP - most, like AOKP, add modifications, while some don't.
AOKP - Android Open Kang Project. A ROM by Romanbb and his friends, built on AOSP, that adds many modifications and tweaks that aim to improve the end-user experience.
Yes it does thank you! So basically AOSP and AOKP are categories of the type of ROM a ROM is? Are there any other projects or are these the only two ones? Which one offers more stability and fluidness in the OS?
azn android said:
Yes it does thank you! So basically AOSP and AOKP are categories of the type of ROM a ROM is? Are there any other projects or are these the only two ones? Which one offers more stability and fluidness in the OS?
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Almost.
AOSP is the version of Android that comes straight from Google. Manufacturers (such as Samsung, HTC, Motorola, etc) usually like to take AOSP ROMs and add their own modifications to it - and that's how we got Samsung's Touchwiz, HTC's Sense, Motorola's MotoBlur, etc.
However, Google partners up each year with a manufacturer to release a Nexus device. These devices are special in that they always come with AOSP, and because of that, they are always the first to receive updates to the Android OS, and are for the most part the devices with the most developer support on forums such as XDA.
AOKP isn't a type of ROM in itself - it is just a name given to a specific ROM. Like AOKP, you have for example CyanogenMod, which is yet a different ROM. Because we have a Nexus device, all of the ROMs you'll see in our development section are all built straight on AOSP. There are many ROMs out there, all unique in their own way, and the best way to find out which one is right for you is simply to try them all out. It may be scary at first, but after your 1st or 2nd flash, you'll become addicted for a few weeks
Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
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Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
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It's not, where did you read that? CM9 will be built from the ground up using the AOSP released by Google back in November.
Kang are using the Cyanogen GitHub to compile a CM9 beta ROM, as as far as I know, CM haven't released any betas (do they even release beta ROMs?) As far as I know they just go for a final build which is as stable as stable can be, people can't wait for the final builds and build ROMs using their work so we can try them as they are developed by the CM team.
That's my understanding of it anyways.
Oh my bad. I jumped to conclusions when I read the title to this post haha.
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Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
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CM is not built off of Kang. Kang is simply a term used to denote a compiled build of a ROM by someone other than that ROM's team or "authorized dealer". For example, User A compiles CM, changed a few lines in the code, and then publishes it here as his own work. That is a kang, and its highly frowned upon.
The reason the CM thread is labeled a "kang" is because there are no official builds of CM9 coming straight from CM yet - they're just experimental builds as of now. The reason why its allowed, is because recognized members of the CM team are releasing them.
I unfortunately don't even have my Nexus yet, but its coming in two days and I'm getting my feet wet. However, from what I've been exposed to, one of the more popular combinations around here seem to be AOKP with Franco's kernel.
I strongly advise you not to flash anything yet, though. You seem motivated to be here, which is good - but you also seem to not know too much about the world of Android yet.
Please, take the time to read through the following links:
Basic Android Terminology
Galaxy Nexus Frequently Asked Questions
Different Guides and Tutorials for the Galaxy Nexus
After you've finished, you'll be a little more familiar with Android and how stuff works. If you have questions, I strongly advise you to search Google and XDA first - I can almost guarantee your question has already been answered before
If you searched, but couldn't find an answer, please post in the Q&A sub-forum - there are many members like myself who love to help new users who are willing to take the time to learn themselves, without expecting others to do their work for them.
Finally, as a general rule, don't post stuff in the development sub-forum that aren't specifically development related. Yes, if you'll go through them, you'll probably see a bunch of posts that aren't tied in directly to development - but two wrongs don't make a right if you have a question about a specific ROM, usually the answer is right in that ROM's thread - if it isn't, most ROMs have IRC chatrooms set up, and if they don't - consider making a thread in the Q&A sub-forum.
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Disclaimer: I'm not trying to compare ROMs from different developers with the intention of finding out which one is best. Such threads always end up with one camp bashing the other.
Instead, I just want to have a feel of which one is more widely used. CM7 is feature-packed, while Oxygen is designed to be clean and minimalist. Both have their merits, and I regularly jump ship.
While I'm on Oxygen, CM7 went out of beta, so I am contemplating going back on CM7.
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Oh sorry, I thought it'd be appropriate to post here because this is where people come looking for ROM. :O
Used CM7 for the sole reason that Oxygen does not have yet the long press volume to skip track starting the official updates from N1. Once Oxygen has it, it's still my choice.
Last time I installed oxygen I couldn't uninstall the latest version of maps (which for my purposes ain't as good as that last 4 version with clearer road names as you zoom in etc). I cant sort that myself, but On cm7 you can. I find cm7 bombproof with great battery but I'm staying with an old 44 radio.
I use Oxygen because it had gingerbread at the time it came out. I tried CM7 but there is no feature that will make me switch from Oxygen to CM7.
I use cm7 because it supports arabic and rtl language.
really stupid question.
oxygen mostly based on cm development.
fterh said:
Oh sorry, I thought it'd be appropriate to post here because this is where people come looking for ROM. :O
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Year exactly why you shouldn't fill it with non rom threads. Make it more difficult to find the actual roms.
really stupid question.
oxygen mostly based on cm development.
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Why? He is not asking which is better, but which is more popular, and I don't think you can tell that from which rom is based on which. If you even bothered to read OP you'd know that.
On topic: For me it is definately Oxygen. The stock android is more than enough for my needs. The only thing i'm missing is the long press volume to skip track, but actually i almost never listen to music anyway.
Cm7. It has theme chooser
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Can't beat oxy's battery life and smoothness
oxygen, although tbh ive never tried cyanogen, and i dont fancy it, like my phone to be relatively hack free.......
well. all roms and kernels orgin from cm. enough said
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well. all roms and kernels orgin from cm. enough said
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I think Oxygen don't. Oxygen is an AOSP ROM with some customization done by AdamG and _thalamus.
I posted "other"
I jump from Oxygen to Redux, CM isn't a good choice for me... too bloated, I prefer simple (& light) rom
I remove also many apps from basic Oxygen & Redux, I prefer to stay slim
both are very cured & almost bugs free even if right now I prefer Redux for a couple of features integrated in the settings rom
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well. all roms and kernels orgin from cm. enough said
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If this is a popularity thread, there are 22000 installs of CM7 on desire.
source: http://stats.cyanogenmod.com/
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well. all roms and kernels orgin from cm. enough said
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Wow, that's a big call... I'd like to see how Sense/HD roms come from cm???
Yes, there's *alot* of CM based roms, but Oxygen is not amongst them and it's just stupid to say that everything comes from CM.
I like Oxygen - it's slick and very good on the battery... no it doesn't have as many built in features as CM but that's not for me anyway. This is the beauty of choice though... work out what suits you best and go with that.
M.
CM7, Purely for the mods and hacks that it has, Oxygen is also a very good rom, don't be swayed by what other people are using though, use both roms and then decide for yourself.
About Oxygen
Oxygen ROM is an AOSP source built ROM (ie. not a mod of any sense based ROM), it's minimal, it's superfast and mostly bugfree.
As Oxygen is not a mod/port of any HTC/CyanogenMod or any other ROM and may not be to everyones liking, it's minimalistic and basic but I'm open to ideas and suggestions for improving the ROM.
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for everyone who thinks its a cyanogen modded ROM.....
gingervillain which is not really cm7
I was just curious to know ^^^^^^
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yeah, very often, that's what's call Kanging
the real DEV will create it from source codes
but the ROM Chef will just chop bits and bits from different ROMs and stew it together in a new ROM
eventually the Chefs will level up to become real DEV after acquiring enough experience to move onto the next level
A good example would be MIUI, it started as a Kang, then the team working on it and go serious, now they are following in the foodsteps of CM team, they use CM sources, and then put on their own MIUI add-ons to CM
AllGamer said:
yeah, very often, that's what's call Kanging
the real DEV will create it from source codes
but the ROM Chef will just chop bits and bits from different ROMs and stew it together in a new ROM
eventually the Chefs will level up to become real DEV after acquiring enough experience to move onto the next level
A good example would be MIUI, it started as a Kang, then the team working on it and go serious, now they are following in the foodsteps of CM team, they use CM sources, and then put on their own MIUI add-ons to CM
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Thanks for the quick response but I actually meant for example: Melvin use Whitehawx rom for personal use as a daily driver (not kang). I wonder if devs are flash-a-holic's just like most of us. It would be cool to know that devs actually flash other dev roms for personal use.
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that's a whole different story, at least within XDA, it's a courtesy to get permission first, before adding features found in other ROMs into your own.
personally i don't really see a problem, since it's all open source anyways, and everybody got it from every where else anyways.
however we must abide by the forum honour code regardless, to make everyone happy.
that's basically what it's
Can anyone please explain what AOKP is? I know it stands for Android Open Kang Project, but what is Kang? I've tried searching the forums here and in RootzWiki as well as a general Google search and I've come up with nothing that is helpful.
I've seen a lot of AOKP roms, but no explanation as to exactly what they are, although I've noticed that many of them have a lot of the CM9 mods.
Thank You!
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure "Kang" is just the name of the team that develops the ROM.
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I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure "Kang" is just the name of the team that develops the ROM.
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im not sure if that was what it meant to begin with, but these days it means a rom compiled by a person rather than a server.
so most of CM's roms are compiled automatically by there servers. However some people make CM Kangs by taking the source and compiling it them selves. This means they can add all the commits/mods/features which the servers have but dont have assisgned to the roms for various reasons.
So Kangs will often have slightly newer features and are also less likely to have issues because a user has gone through and made sure everything is in the rom(Hopefully). where as the servers wont know if a driver is broken/missing.
You can also get kangs of other roms i suppose. sorry if i repeated myself
Kang
The process of creating a code based of someone else's code or reapplying code that someone else created into your own code (e.g. git cherry-pick)
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Terminology
AOKP is a play on AOSP, the Android Open Source Project.
AOKP is basically any rom made by or from the CyanogenMod source. It it NOT true CyanogenMod however.
Oh, well I was completely off. Thanks for the corrections.
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AOKP is a play on AOSP, the Android Open Source Project.
AOKP is basically any rom made by or from the CyanogenMod source. It it NOT true CyanogenMod however.
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AOKP is actually not from CM source. As you can see in his ROM thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402341 it has nothing to do with CM9 kangs.
It's just a play off AOSP and the general status of the Android community. AOKP is build from AOSP source, not CM9, even though I use bits and pieces of it. If you look, most of the features to AOKP are unique .
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i stand corrected. i thought it was due to their use of the word in almost everything.
Interesting.
It certainly has the oddest boot animation of the lot. Trés cute..
Thanks Roman!
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It's just a play off AOSP and the general status of the Android community. AOKP is build from AOSP source, not CM9, even though I use bits and pieces of it. If you look, most of the features to AOKP are unique .
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oh....... I thought it was a reference to chess ....Android Opening King Pawn 1st...... Thx for clearing that up...........
Wow! Thanks for all the responses. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who didn't know what it meant, but I think I have a better idea now. But why use Kang instead of Source (AOKP instead of AOSP) if it's built from source? I was always afraid to flash an AOKP ROM because I didn't know what it was and just thought that it was a ROM in its early alpha stages and had a ton of bugs.
Thanks again!!!
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Wow! Thanks for all the responses. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who didn't know what it meant, but I think I have a better idea now. But why use Kang instead of Source (AOKP instead of AOSP) if it's built from source? I was always afraid to flash an AOKP ROM because I didn't know what it was and just thought that it was a ROM in its early alpha stages and had a ton of bugs.
Thanks again!!!
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Because AOSP is pure stock Android. With AOKP, new features are being added in. So calling his ROM AOSP when its not AOSP is misleading.
AOKP is just simply a name of a ROM. Developers can give their ROM names anything they'd like. AOKP is certainly not buggy and I use it as a daily driver (even on nightlies). Very good ROM and maintained with updates
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Because AOSP is pure stock Android. With AOKP, new features are being added in. So calling his ROM AOSP when its not AOSP is misleading.
AOKP is just simply a name of a ROM. Developers can give their ROM names anything they'd like. AOKP is certainly not buggy and I use it as a daily driver (even on nightlies). Very good ROM and maintained with updates
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Ok, great! I'm coming from the original Incredible and have never heard of AOKP til now, so thanks for helping clarify for me. Looks like AOKP might be my next ROM choice
Thanks to the OP for creating this thread, I was wondering the same thing.
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Ok, great! I'm coming from the original Incredible and have never heard of AOKP til now, so thanks for helping clarify for me. Looks like AOKP might be my next ROM choice
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You're welcome. I've never heard of it either but I just always assumed it was a name of a ROM
I recommend using franco's kernel with the ROM. Both of them push out updates every other day. You can always wait for feedback on the kernel before flashing but they're usually both good to go in terms of stability
There's a lot of debate about what kang actually means. From what I've read it's developed to mean anytime you take bits and pieces of code from other people and incorporate them into your own mod. If you didn't write it then you "kanged" it from someone else. Someone else probably knows the original origin of the word, but at least this gives a good definition.
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so they are or aren't based off of Klingon technology?
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Pardon the noobish question, but with the release of AOSP Sources for 4.0.4, I'm wondering: How much duplication goes on between ROM devs and AOSP devs?
When ROM devs and Kernel devs are tweaking kernels, are they fixing and optimizing the same things as AOSP devs? Or are they more often working on two different sides of the code, and fixes from one side advance the state of the art for the other?
Another way to put this: Right now, I'm using a custom kernel. Is it likely that a 4.0.4-based custom kernel will actually offer improvements over the current 4.0.3-based version of the same dev's kernel? Or have devs already made most of the tweaks that the AOSP devs did, resulting in a very modest improvement.
I'm just trying to temper my excitement a bit. I know that 4.0.4 would likely be huge coming from stock 4.0.2, but if the ROM devs are already well ahead of the AOSP folks, I won't expect 4.0.4 Gummy to be that different than 4.0.3 Gummy (for instance).
The devs merge the new code and stay current. They keep their tweaks too etc.
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The devs merge the new code and stay current. They keep their tweaks too etc.
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I understand, but I'm wondering how often the Dev tweaks ARE the new changes in a new AOSP release.
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I understand, but I'm wondering how often the Dev tweaks ARE the new changes in a new AOSP release.
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Thats pretty rare, though may happen once in a while. Mostly the devs work on new features code and additions. I'll try to think of an example and post if it comes to me.
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Thats pretty rare, though may happen once in a while. Mostly the devs work on new features code and additions. I'll try to think of an example and post if it comes to me.
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The only one I can think of is the swyping of the notifications
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Hey guys. I'll be flashing a new rom soon, and I wanted to get your opinions on which of these roms to flash. I've been using Liquidsmooth V1.4 but with Jelly Bean I'm considering flashing a new rom.
I tried AOKP when it was still ICS and I decided to switch to Liquidsmooth because it has all the same features that I use and the rom file is smaller so the battery life it better. Battery life is one of my main concerns so it will be one of the main deciding factors for my rom of choice. Please help me make my decision, and only comment if you have actually used both roms in one of their more recent forms.
Also, please include your kernel, and other info you feel is important enough to include. Thanks
Wrong section buddy. Development only in this section.
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There are many threads on what ROM. Use the search feature and why are you still flashing ICS-based ROMs? Jelly Bean is out....
CM10 is probably the most feature riched ROM for JB. Thread also doesn't belong in this forum.
Liquid is one of the stupidest roms out there. They've hacked together so many features from different roms and they've done a sloppy job. Switching the icons of the notification powerwidgets doesn't work when you try from the menu (the option is there, it doesn't do anything - that's why I consider it sloppy - there are buttons that are supposed to "do something" but don't do anything.)
Also, they just took Trebuchet launcher of CM9 and just renamed it to Liquid Launcher. I know it's open source but it's still theft, isn't it?
AOKP is also a rom focusing more on features than stability.
I'd suggest you try CM9 - I found it a lot smoother than AOKP and the rom is consistent and works.
Also... wrong subforum - this **** goes to QA or general, not here.
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Liquid is one of the stupidest roms out there. They've hacked together so many features from different roms and they've done a sloppy job. Switching the icons of the notification powerwidgets doesn't work when you try from the menu (the option is there, it doesn't do anything - that's why I consider it sloppy - there are buttons that are supposed to "do something" but don't do anything.)
Also, they just took Trebuchet launcher of CM9 and just renamed it to Liquid Launcher. I know it's open source but it's still theft, isn't it?
AOKP is also a rom focusing more on features than stability.
I'd suggest you try CM9 - I found it a lot smoother than AOKP and the rom is consistent and works.
Also... wrong subforum - this **** goes to QA or general, not here.
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They did the same thing for rom control and renamed it to liquid control.
Wow they really renamed it to liquid launcher? I mean yeah its open source but at least give credit where it's due and not rename a app and put liquid on it.
+1 for cm9. Although like what I said, take a look at a jelly bean roms. Particularly cm10 its really smooth
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I moved from Liquid to AOKP M6 and they're both great.
M6 has given me insane battery life and an awesome balance between features/stability.
Use the 3.1.9.9 Jame Bond kernel and I promise it'l be worth it.