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Cyanogen vs DeFrost vs OpenDesire

I wonder if this thread is legal or not XD I would like to see how many responds I will get for this stats =)
We love our Desire(s) and our Desire(s) won't be that great without these souls XD This is not a competition or as such. It is just to see how many people are actually using these custom roms and their favours on them
And this poll is just for CM/DF/OD's users If I have an option "None of them" then people will ask why don't I put other roms as well. The point is: There are so many of them out there and we all know where they come from.

lpachuong said:
I wonder if this thread is legal or not XD I would like to see how many responds I will get for this stats =)
We love our Desire(s) and our Desire(s) won't be that great without these souls XD This is not a competition or as such. It is just to see how many people are actually using these custom roms
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Competition?
OpenDesire an DeFrost are 99.9% clone of CM6
http://github.com/opendesire/androi...mmit/6d04e2277e189be3a7033ed8cd06b88ebb6b574f
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7816282&postcount=10062

Where's the option for 'None of the above' - it's not a true poll if you don't allow those not using them to vote...

Kali- said:
Competition?
OpenDesire an DeFrost are 99.9% clone of CM6
http://github.com/opendesire/androi...mmit/6d04e2277e189be3a7033ed8cd06b88ebb6b574f
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7816282&postcount=10062
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I know that. That why I said this is not a competion or whatsoever. It is just to see people's taste on these roms

EddyOS said:
Where's the option for 'None of the above' - it's not a true poll if you don't allow those not using them to vote...
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true. plz have a none of the above option as well. ;-)

I use the DeFroST 3.0 and I feel so good. =D
Sorry for my english

cyanogen THE KING
NOW NO DeFrost and OpenDesire
Only cyanogen clone
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App and cyanogenmod rom

i think this tread shoud be closed.

Why? I would like to know the differences.
I have tried defrost and i like the defrost setup and cyanogen settings.
I like the fact that through defrost setup i can change kernel and mv and mhz
as well as tweaking status bar from settings.
Does opendesire and CM offer these things?

defrost is best

This is going to be very biased - everyone has there own opinion.
However, those that vote MUST have used all the ROM's otherwise how do they know that one is better than the other??????

None of the above - LeeDroid w/ brightsilence.
Stock Android = bleugh ugliness.

jastonas said:
Why? I would like to know the differences.
I have tried defrost and i like the defrost setup and cyanogen settings.
I like the fact that through defrost setup i can change kernel and mv and mhz
as well as tweaking status bar from settings.
Does opendesire and CM offer these things?
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if you woud like to know differences , read changelog or test them yourself. its not so hard to backup and trie diffrent rom. this tread like the other one has no point and its just destroing comunity. let devs to do their work . if you woud like tread like this do one with benchmarks. if i say opendesire is best rom what does that mean to you? will you install it??

ReD_AvEnGeR said:
defrost is best
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nice and intellectual arguements...

Kali- said:
Competition?
OpenDesire an DeFrost are 99.9% clone of CM6
http://github.com/opendesire/androi...mmit/6d04e2277e189be3a7033ed8cd06b88ebb6b574f
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=7816282&postcount=10062
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kkaalldd said:
cyanogen THE KING
NOW NO DeFrost and OpenDesire
Only cyanogen clone
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App and cyanogenmod rom
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I realy dont like to start argues between developers
I think threat be closed

How is comparing three ROMS going to start fights between developers?

abc27 said:
How is comparing three ROMS going to start fights between developers?
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when user didnt get the right info

Don't worry Kali I know you and defer are the only kernel guys. Cheers
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA App

yup, DeFrost and OpenDesire are based on Cyanogenmod. Cyanogenmod is based on Google Android source, so then it must also be the same as the Android HTC sells? Start thinking people.
I tried Cyanogenmod at first and was very unhappy. Too few Desire users, too few Desire specific modifications, like up to date black theme. It also was full with bloatware (Amazon MP3, ADW Launcher) and I wasn't able to deinstall them with ADB completely. Don't know why. It also had some hick ups and consumed a lot of battery in my opinion, at least became the Desire hotter than usual.
Then I switched over to OpenDesire after I read that it is based on CM, thus also supports Bluetooth HID. Less bloatware, much slimmer and faster because no laggy ADW Launcher. Huge Userbase, with a up to date black theme with the circle battery mod. Overclocking features, etc. Perfect for me. And it runs fine at the moment and everything works as it should.
I haven't tried DeFrost yet, and won't plan to do it. The differences are marginal and to be honest, I don't really know what exactly the differences are. I just preferred OD because it seemed to me as if more users use it and AdamG releases more updates faster. I also decided to use OD because I have heard of it before several times, not so DeFrost.
However, OD and so should DeFrost, are much better than CM for us Desire users. Better optimized and more features for the Desire and much better support.

i tried them all in my search for a stock rom to compare it with my sense one.....and i must say that without saying cyanogen and defrost aren't good, OPENDESIRE is the best....very fast and very stable with customized options that do a lot of things....that's my opinion

CM7 or Oxygen?

I am wondering what your thoughts are between Oxygen and CM7? I know the technical differences, but I am currently on Oxygen and am interested in changing (for no other reason than to try another ROM!).
But, how do you guys compare the two (those who have used both). Which would you use and why?
Cheers

oxygen is simply android in its purest form
cm7 is a bit modified android, with some really cool tweaks that extend the capabilities of the phone.
only way to find out which suits you better is trying cm7

dzumagos said:
oxygen is simply android in its purest form
cm7 is a bit modified android, with some really cool tweaks that extend the capabilities of the phone.
only way to find out which suits you better is trying cm7
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Heh, yeah, I wanted to do a quick switch and see what suited me, but obviously it takes a while because I have to reflash the correct AlphaRev Hboot (using Oxygen one atm) and then do CM7... then Titanium Backup etc... I need my phone a lot for work, so I don't want to be messing about with it too much.
So I kinda wanted to hear peoples thoughts before deciding whether I wanted to do the switch

Fun fact of the day: You're not the first one with this question.
>> http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=961649

oxygen is simply android in its purest form
cm7 is a bit modified android, with some really cool tweaks that extend the capabilities of the phone.
only way to find out which suits you better is trying cm7
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Heh, yeah, I wanted to do a quick switch and see what suited me, but obviously it takes a while because I have to reflash the correct AlphaRev Hboot (using Oxygen one atm) and then do CM7... then Titanium Backup etc... I need my phone a lot for work, so I don't want to be messing about with it too much.
So I kinda wanted to hear peoples thoughts before deciding whether I wanted to do the switch
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Cm isn't bad at all, but cm7 hboot isn' t good enough if you wanna intall lots of apps. I switched to cm some time ago, but when i realized that most of the added features had no use for me i came back: i didn't want a rom too bloated for my needs...o2 imho also has currently better battery life and feels a bit snappier when using lpp (and not only that), thalamus has done some awesome job with the kernel lately.

I tried them both. I liked oxygen more since it has more space and less mods.
At the end I preferred the sense rom of InsertCoin since Sense has a great interface.

I too settled for Oxygen.
Feels faster, simple, great battery life and CM7 didn't have a good danish keyboard dictionary when i tried it

I went oxygen. CM7 had issues with installing apps >5mb and i got lots of random FCs with Facebook, Camera and a lot of other applications. Oxygen has been great.

I'm using CM7. Not the nightly builds. The stable release.
Unfortunately the last version of oxygen I used was a Froyo build. So I can't really compare. I haven't had my phone for almost two months thanks to a faulty mainboard.
I don't have any negative comments towards CM. I think overall stability might be a bit better. They seem to have more developers working on it and pumping out fixes.
Then of course there is Oxygen which is lighter and running the latest version of android (compared to CM stable release). I heard that 2.3.4 fixes some GPS issues. So I'm keen to jump ship.
The only thing stopping me... is being too lazy to setup my phone again.

If you don't mind losing a little bit of data partition, you can just use the CM7 HBOOT for either ROM - Oxygen will work fine with it.

I'm using oxygen and i'm really happy with it. Know it is a small problem, but cm7 had an annoying fileexplorer that gave me some problems. Oxygen is the way to go! Also, for me it is smoother, and i like stock android laucher over adw.
Sent from my HTC Desire using XDA Premium App

Check out Cyanogen but don't expect from it too be as fast as oxygen. I liked it.
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oxygen or dev-null all the way cm7 just wasnt as snappy and some of the extras in cm7 are good but youll find yourself not using them. Thalamus's kernels are awesome and oxygen is as stable as can be. Dev-null is even lighter if your feeling adventurous.....

I was usinging an older build of Oxygen and my handset kept rebooting! Would wake up in the morning and the phone would be hung on the boot screen.
Gonna give it another chance though, any more problems and its back to CM7

I <3 OxygeN, the only thing I miss from using Oxygen is 720p recording and widescreen pixtures, apart from that its awesome! Android 2.3.4, stable, fast, no reboots, I've settled on it
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I've found myself always going back to CM7. I've tried Oxygen numerous times, even the new version but it falls short. I've had bugs and all sorts of things but I miss the CM Settings mostly.
Just a hint, DevNull is a pre-release of Oxygen. Just a straight build with just enough development to run on the Desire.

cm7 feels more stable

For pure ASOP, might want to go with Oxygen ROM. Using it now and enjoying it

I prefer Oxygen to CM, but then I also prefer Redux to Oxygen, esp the themed version with the lcd density at 204

i use cm7 for myself, because oxygen is a bit to light. it should be fast and long bat life, but if you turn off all the cool stuff for performance and bat life, you don't need a smart phone and can buy a cheap normal mobilephone ^^

How do I know what kernel I can install with my rom?

I want to install the Incredikernel since I hear is so good and I am running the OTA Unofficial Froyo 2.2 Rom from incredibleroms.com. I am rooted and everything. Can I install the Kernel? And how do I install it?
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start here- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035923&highlight=kernal+how+to
then here- http://www.theincrediblelist.com/kernels/incredikernel.html
Basiclly find your ROM you wish to flash, good place to start is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Then finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Always read, read, read, search, search, Google, read and read lol. Hope this helps
Much thanks to
chad0989
ithrewitontheground
Jacksonroh
cvbcbcmv
for untold amount of knowledge they have passed on

jcoddinc83 said:
start here- http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1035923&highlight=kernal+how+to
then here- http://www.theincrediblelist.com/kernels/incredikernel.html
Basiclly find your ROM you wish to flash, good place to start is http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Then finally http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=969371
Always read, read, read, search, search, Google, read and read lol. Hope this helps
Much thanks to
chad0989
ithrewitontheground
Jacksonroh
cvbcbcmv
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Thats really good information. But how do i know weather I am running AOSP or SENSE? Like I said I have the OTA Unofficial 2.2 Froyo Update, and I know AOSP means it started from scratch but I dont know wether the Rom i installed is, how can I figure this out through the phone or can you just tell me

It sounds like you're on a sense rom. Sense is HTC's skin for android, it adds certain functionalities and features (primarily social networking). If you have HTC apps (check settings>applications>manage applications) then you're using a sense rom. Do you have HTC sense widgets available to add to your screens? Then it's sense.
Chad has an incredikernel for froyo (android 2.2) sense roms, it should be near the bottom office the OP of his incredikernel thread. If you want to use his latest kernels, they are only for AOSP gingerbread (android 2.3) roms. AOSP roms for the incredible include cyanogenmod, MIUI, OMGB & OMFGB, IncDeck, evervolv, and liquid light.
I suppose you could say AOSP (android open source project) roms are built from scratch, but it might be more accurate to say built from source, the source being Google's. Just about every phone is shipped with the manufacturer's "version" of android on it, sense for HTC, blur for Motorola, touchwiz for Samsung. Only Google's nexus devices ship with the unmolested "stock" version of android, and that's why they are always the first to receive updates. Hopefully this info helps!

k_nivesout said:
It sounds like you're on a sense rom. Sense is HTC's skin for android, it adds certain functionalities and features (primarily social networking). If you have HTC apps (check settings>applications>manage applications) then you're using a sense rom. Do you have HTC sense widgets available to add to your screens? Then it's sense.
Chad has an incredikernel for froyo (android 2.2) sense roms, it should be near the bottom office the OP of his incredikernel thread. If you want to use his latest kernels, they are only for AOSP gingerbread (android 2.3) roms. AOSP roms for the incredible include cyanogenmod, MIUI, OMGB & OMFGB, IncDeck, evervolv, and liquid light.
I suppose you could say AOSP (android open source project) roms are built from scratch, but it might be more accurate to say built from source, the source being Google's. Just about every phone is shipped with the manufacturer's "version" of android on it, sense for HTC, blur for Motorola, touchwiz for Samsung. Only Google's nexus devices ship with the unmolested "stock" version of android, and that's why they are always the first to receive updates. Hopefully this info helps!
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Thanks so much man
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No problem. If I helped and you feel so inclined, feel free to hit the thanks button

Does anyone Have SkyRaider 4.2? If so what kernel you running and what benefits are you gaining?

JonBsbB said:
Does anyone Have SkyRaider 4.2? If so what kernel you running and what benefits are you gaining?
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Using Incredikernel; so far runs good.

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Alright can you help me locate a Rom of my liking?
I really like the Stock rom, but I want a AOSP Rom. I basically just want it to have the Stock HTC Launcher but I dont want it to be so slow for instance, for me Skyraider 4.2 is slow because it takes five times the length of time for it to Boot Up then using the Stock 2.2 unofficial OTA.
Is Binny Rom a AOSP rom? And I dont want to lose the 8MP camera or 720p HD Recordings.

Well, if you need 720P, there aren't any AOSP gingerbread roms that will work. Also, if you want the HTC launcher, you'll need to be on a sense rom, there's no way to use it on AOSP.
That said, what are you looking for in a rom? Skyraider is a very solid rom, and will be very similar in functionality and stability to the stock rom. I don't know why it would take so much longer to boot, are you using the stock skyaider kernel or another one?
Let me know what features you have to have in a rom and we'll figure it out. Unless you read through all the rom threads (like I do for some reason), it can be hard to tell what the feature and especially functionality differences are.

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Well, if you need 720P, there aren't any AOSP gingerbread roms that will work. Also, if you want the HTC launcher, you'll need to be on a sense rom, there's no way to use it on AOSP.
That said, what are you looking for in a rom? Skyraider is a very solid rom, and will be very similar in functionality and stability to the stock rom. I don't know why it would take so much longer to boot, are you using the stock skyaider kernel or another one?
Let me know what features you have to have in a rom and we'll figure it out. Unless you read through all the rom threads (like I do for some reason), it can be hard to tell what the feature and especially functionality differences are.
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I used the stock kernel for sky raider. I believe Sky Raiders is a sense rom isn't it?
And basically I want something that is stable with no foreclosures. With the stock rom I have never had a foreclose. Something that i can customize the look of easily I loved sky raider for that but then i want to a AOSP rom to have the liberty of messing around with my phone better. I really don't mind the hd recording I just want to keep my 8mp camera.
Also can't I install a launcher from the market to give me stock looks?
If u tell me sky raider is also then i will keep that one
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You're right, you can install a launcher from the market and should be able to find a sense-like theme for it if you want. I'd recommend making a backup of your current rom, then flash the latest cyanogenmod nightly. The nightlies have some newer features that the "stable" releases don't have, and they're just as stable, if not moreso. With CM7, you have a TON of options for themes and modifications, and its always been perfectly stable for me. Look around in the android themes section and search "CM7 theme" on the market to get an idea of all the ways it can be customized.
With CM7, you won't have 720p video recording, but the still camera can be used at full resolution. There are an unbelievable amount of features and tweaks that CM7 adds, I'd recommend looking through the wiki on their website and browsing the threads in the development section. If you don't like it, you can always restore your backup. It might be fun to check out some of the new gingerbread sense roms too, if you like the sense interface. Those roms aren't as stable or fast as CM7, or froyo sense roms (like skyraider), but can be fun to mess around with.

[GUIDE] Noob's Guide #2: Choosing the Right ROM

So, you just rooted your super awesome Android phone, thanks to Rivera82falcon and his awesome guide? You saw my awesome guide for flashing ROMS, and wanted to try it, but didn't know where to begin? Well, you're in the right place.
Also, don't blame me if your phone explodes into a million pieces and one gets stuck in your eye. Nothing you do is my fault. Well, here we go.
STEP ONE: AOSP or Sense?
You probably know what Sense is, but you might not know what AOSP is. It stands for Android Open Source Project. Basically, you are getting a base of stock gingerbread. Now let's talk about the advantages and disadvantages.
AOSP is far faster than most Sense ROMs, and offers more customization as far as themes and kernels. Keep in mind, you can't just install AOSP and put the sense launcher on it. It won't work. With AOSP, you can get Gingerbread, Froyo, or even Ice Cream Sandwich looks for your phone.
Sense, on the other hand, is usually slower, and sometimes offers limited customization when compared to the Theme engines for AOSP. Sense can feel sluggish sometimes, but can be very fast if the ROM is well built. It is not as streamlined as AOSP. On the other hand, you get all the awesome sense apps, like weather, clock, and calendar.
Personally, I switch back and forth between Sense an AOSP. They both have their advantages and disadvantages.
STEP TWO: How Much Is Working?
Many people see an awesome looking ROM and it says ALPHA or BETA, but that doesn't necessarily mean anything to people. They flash it and wonder why their radio doesn't work, or why WiFi won't connect. ALPHA ROMs are ROMs that are in the early testing phase and may have key functions broken or missing. Don't go on a vacation with an ALPHA ROM on your phone. Never flash one if you depend on your phone for your job. A BETA ROM is a ROM that is nearing the end of testing. It may still have broken features, but the core functions such as Radio, Data, WiFi, and SMS are often working. Don't flash this ROM if you are expecting a finished product, you will be disappointed. These ROMs are usually fairly slow as well. A vX.x.x ROM (ex: v1.0.1) is released to the public but probably still has some bugs like Bluetooth, MMS, or some other random issues. This ROM still might not be the fastest, but is still easily able to function. Anybody can flash these ROMs. RLSX (ex: RLS1) ROMs are released and are nearly finished. They may have some small bugs or not be fully optimized, but they are nearly perfect. Final ROMs are complete, and you can expect no further changes, usually.
STEP THREE: What Features/Look Does It Have?
Not all Sense and AOSP ROMs are created equal. Many look very different from each other and have very different features. For example, a Sense 2.1 and Sense 3.5 ROM are very different, and CM7 is very different from PoolParty. Read the entire OP and look at any screenshots provided. Make sure you like the look, so you don't waste time flashing it if you hate the look. That said, there is nothing wrong with flashing a ROM just to try it out.
STEP FOUR: Choosing Your Favorite (My Recommendations)
Sense
-Incredible 2 HD by newtoroot
*Great Battery Life
*Nearly Bugless
*Sense 3.5/Android 2.3.5
Download Link
-Skyraider Zeus
*Sense 2.1/3.0 Mix
*Very fast for a Sense ROM
*Great battery life
Download Link
AOSP
-CyanogenMod 7
*Lots of customization
*Very fast
*Updated very often
*Android 2.3.7
***IF YOU USE THE NIGHTLIES, THERE MAY BE BUGS***
Download Link
-TSM PoolParty
*Android 2.3.7
*Lots of theming
*Very fast
Download Link
SUGGESTIONS FROM OTHER USERS
-MIUI (knipp21)
*Fast AOSP ROM
*Lots of theme options
*Very customizable
*Looks good with GO Launcher and Launcher Pro
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1162835
-Liquid Smooth 3.x (i'manoob)
*Also very fast
*Lots of customization
http://liquidsmoothroms.com/
I hope that this was helpful to people. The next guide will be a noob dictionary.

Very nice writeup man. Kudos.
Sent from my Incredible 2 HD using XDA App

I can vouch for Virtuous Roms. All their work is bug free and visually appealing and user friendly.

Nice write up AC.
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I can vouch for Virtuous Roms. All their work is bug free and visually appealing and user friendly.
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I agree Collinjames, the new Affinity ROM is very nice, battery life is insanely good, and it's nearly bug free. My softkeys stopped lighting up so I went back to 2HD RLS1.1

What about including custom kernals AOSP and Sense?

Skyraider Zeus rom is worthy of the incredible, Incredible 2. No bugs which is the most important thing, has never crashed ever on me, that is incredibly important. I don't ever actually use sense exept for the great camera, lockscreen, and weather. But this rom is a no brainer really.
It gives you every option you could think of and has no downside.
I wish this nice little article was up when I was wasting my time trying out buggy roms.

I just feel puzzle about which rom to choose at that moment, thanks a lot for your guide.

liquid 3.x is a good aosp rom as well

Thanks for the post, I like how you broke down the advantages of each.. this has proven to be very helpful.

While i agree with you aosp choices..i think everyone should at least try miui...most customizable rom I've ever used...and looks great with go launcher or launcher pro.
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I will add an "other people's recommendations section" soon. Just because I dont necessarily agree with all of these *cough*MIUI*cough*, but I want people to get all the input they can.

Thanks for posting this. As someone who is new to rooting phones this information is very useful.
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AgalychnisCallidryas said:
I will add an "other people's recommendations section" soon. Just because I dont necessarily agree with all of these *cough*MIUI*cough*, but I want people to get all the input they can.
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Yeah, I tried MIUI for a few days. Although I like how customizable it is with all the themes available I found it too buggy. I kept getting lockups and reboots. I hoped the 11.18 release would have helped but it actually made it worse. Also, the lack of an app drawer was very hard to get used to. I'm still not sure I like that concept. I guess it's too iPhone-ish for me.

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Thanks for posting this. As someone who is new to rooting phones this information is very useful.
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Yeah, I tried MIUI for a few days. Although I like how customizable it is with all the themes available I found it too buggy. I kept getting lockups and reboots. I hoped the 11.18 release would have helped but it actually made it worse. Also, the lack of an app drawer was very hard to get used to. I'm still not sure I like that concept. I guess it's too iPhone-ish for me.
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Mine never locks up, what kernel? And use go launcher or launcher pro.
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knipp21 said:
Mine never locks up, what kernel?
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Sorry but I'm not sure. I would say what ever 11.18 has. I'm still learning all there is to know about rooting so I never paid attention to kernel versions.

valorian13 said:
Sorry but I'm not sure. I would say what ever 11.18 has. I'm still learning all there is to know about rooting so I never paid attention to kernel versions.
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I'm running MIUI 1.11.18 right now along with the aerovan .7 bfs kernel. I haven't had a single lockup. Running buttery smooth.
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I also run MIUI 1.11.18 an never had any problems I also use areoevan .07bsf kernel. This rom an skyraider are the two most stable roms I have run.

AgalychnisCallidryas said:
I will add an "other people's recommendations section" soon. Just because I dont necessarily agree with all of these *cough*MIUI*cough*, but I want people to get all the input they can.
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If you try it with a traditional launcher you will love it lol
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ok, so since I'm still learning here, when you flash a ROM does the kernel get changed too? Or is this something you have to flash in addition to the ROM?

yes it will change it to which ever kernel the rom
is supplied with. You can find the custom kernel you wish to use an then just flash it after the rom just make sure it's for aosp or sense which ever you choose to run.

RRF12 said:
yes it will change it to which ever kernel the rom
is supplied with. You can find the custom kernel you wish to use an then just flash it after the rom just make sure it's for aosp or sense which ever you choose to run.
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Thanks for the explanation. That helps.

[Q] What ROM?

Hi,
I'm usually a LG Optimus Speed user but my friend got a HTC Desire. He's not that much into updating ROMs and stuff and atm he is on one of the latest official cm7 nightlys.
Now that he is here we want him to get a new ROM but as I can see there are so much of them out there and I just wanted to ask you if you could give me an advice in what ROM could be good for him. It shouldnt be a build with lots of bugs and stuff cause he can't update it etc. It should be stable and working fine without difficult tweaks etc.
Thanks for your help!

What does he want from a phone?
What does he want from a User Interface? (Does he want sense?)
What are his disappointments with the phone so far?

lol..Psychoanalysis?

Yes.
OP, ask your friend if a tree falls down in the forrest, will there be any sound? The answer to this will determine whether miui is worth trying or not.

He already had MIUI once a few month ago and he (same as me) diskliked it. Cause of the missing App Drawer and stuff.
He want a stable phone. A working camera, if it is possible smooth scrolling. I think a modern ICS rom or something like that should be fine. He is not that of a hardcore user with benchmarks and stuff.

Stable and ics don't mix together.

ok lemme try that, ics looking but I think thats gonna be no problem with go launcher etc. He is used to CM7, perhaps something like that out there?

forgive me, I was being facetious. I dont like miui either.
Well IMHO, we're looking at AOSP / Sense 2.0 (or lower) Gingerbread ROM. What do you think DZ?

Quite agree. If he doesn't want to play with dialers and launchers, get him a stock sense ROM. Else let him try Sense and Aosp Gingerbread and decide. You can flash each, take recovery images and demo them.

Yep.
Well he is on a CM7 nightly, so he probably has a reasonable idea of the aesthetics of AOSP.
If I wanted to recommend an AOSP ROM (with obvious exception of course) I wouldn't necessarily say CM7 was the best rom to use as an example for smoothness and performance. Oxygen is usually a good place to start with AOSP. Or maybe even Mildwild.

different Launchers etc are no problem. We are just looking for some easy update. Like I said, its the latest official CM7 nightly (from november I think).
What do you think about Runnydroid or MildWild?

Once again ive just had a look at the brilliant desire index: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=809328
and the best 2.0 or lower sense ROM imho is actually SuperNova Extreme: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1045824
or Cool IceCream Sense which is Gingerbread sense 2.0 but has an ICS feel to it: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1279016

I dont see runnymede being particularly fast, smooth or bug free. We're looking at a rom thats for a much newer device than the desire. Its close to the boundaries of what the desire can do.
Mildwild (Oxygen based one) has reportedly good battery life and if the theme is liked, probably a good choice. Lots of script tweaks in there. Or simply Oxygen that it is based on.
I haven't tried MildWild though, but if I were to, it would be the oxy version.

OP, I would recommend the roms of the first two people who replied to you. Droidzone for Sense rom and rootSU for AOSP, take your pick.

stankyou said:
OP, I would recommend the roms of the first two people who replied to you. Droidzone for Sense rom and rootSU for AOSP, take your pick.
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Haha. Neither of us have recommended our own roms. We try to be impartial

ok
I just installed the MildWild and its working fine so far! Just another question. Do we have to install a new kernel or adjust ril/bb settings somehow?

RIL and Kernel packaged in the rom should be fine. Shouldnt be any need to change. Infact its a _thalamus kernel. I dont think there is any better for oxygen (Assuming you went for the oxygen version?)
What is BB?

Droidzone said:
Stable and ics don't mix together.
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You're in my sig with this.
rootSU said:
I dont think there is any better for oxygen
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I'm not sure that kernel can be replaced there because of the camera.
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Yep, AOSP driver. I would expect the kernel by gen_Sheiskopff would work, but not sure how its been developed recently. Dont see him around the desire forums much anymore
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1268198