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Can anyone please explain what AOKP is? I know it stands for Android Open Kang Project, but what is Kang? I've tried searching the forums here and in RootzWiki as well as a general Google search and I've come up with nothing that is helpful.
I've seen a lot of AOKP roms, but no explanation as to exactly what they are, although I've noticed that many of them have a lot of the CM9 mods.
Thank You!
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure "Kang" is just the name of the team that develops the ROM.
Kinbote said:
I could be wrong but I'm pretty sure "Kang" is just the name of the team that develops the ROM.
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im not sure if that was what it meant to begin with, but these days it means a rom compiled by a person rather than a server.
so most of CM's roms are compiled automatically by there servers. However some people make CM Kangs by taking the source and compiling it them selves. This means they can add all the commits/mods/features which the servers have but dont have assisgned to the roms for various reasons.
So Kangs will often have slightly newer features and are also less likely to have issues because a user has gone through and made sure everything is in the rom(Hopefully). where as the servers wont know if a driver is broken/missing.
You can also get kangs of other roms i suppose. sorry if i repeated myself
Kang
The process of creating a code based of someone else's code or reapplying code that someone else created into your own code (e.g. git cherry-pick)
http://wiki.cyanogenmod.com/wiki/Terminology
AOKP is a play on AOSP, the Android Open Source Project.
AOKP is basically any rom made by or from the CyanogenMod source. It it NOT true CyanogenMod however.
Oh, well I was completely off. Thanks for the corrections.
neok44 said:
AOKP is a play on AOSP, the Android Open Source Project.
AOKP is basically any rom made by or from the CyanogenMod source. It it NOT true CyanogenMod however.
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AOKP is actually not from CM source. As you can see in his ROM thread, http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1402341 it has nothing to do with CM9 kangs.
It's just a play off AOSP and the general status of the Android community. AOKP is build from AOSP source, not CM9, even though I use bits and pieces of it. If you look, most of the features to AOKP are unique .
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i stand corrected. i thought it was due to their use of the word in almost everything.
Interesting.
It certainly has the oddest boot animation of the lot. Trés cute..
Thanks Roman!
Romanbb said:
It's just a play off AOSP and the general status of the Android community. AOKP is build from AOSP source, not CM9, even though I use bits and pieces of it. If you look, most of the features to AOKP are unique .
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oh....... I thought it was a reference to chess ....Android Opening King Pawn 1st...... Thx for clearing that up...........
Wow! Thanks for all the responses. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who didn't know what it meant, but I think I have a better idea now. But why use Kang instead of Source (AOKP instead of AOSP) if it's built from source? I was always afraid to flash an AOKP ROM because I didn't know what it was and just thought that it was a ROM in its early alpha stages and had a ton of bugs.
Thanks again!!!
erik1213 said:
Wow! Thanks for all the responses. I'm glad that I'm not the only one who didn't know what it meant, but I think I have a better idea now. But why use Kang instead of Source (AOKP instead of AOSP) if it's built from source? I was always afraid to flash an AOKP ROM because I didn't know what it was and just thought that it was a ROM in its early alpha stages and had a ton of bugs.
Thanks again!!!
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Because AOSP is pure stock Android. With AOKP, new features are being added in. So calling his ROM AOSP when its not AOSP is misleading.
AOKP is just simply a name of a ROM. Developers can give their ROM names anything they'd like. AOKP is certainly not buggy and I use it as a daily driver (even on nightlies). Very good ROM and maintained with updates
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Because AOSP is pure stock Android. With AOKP, new features are being added in. So calling his ROM AOSP when its not AOSP is misleading.
AOKP is just simply a name of a ROM. Developers can give their ROM names anything they'd like. AOKP is certainly not buggy and I use it as a daily driver (even on nightlies). Very good ROM and maintained with updates
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Ok, great! I'm coming from the original Incredible and have never heard of AOKP til now, so thanks for helping clarify for me. Looks like AOKP might be my next ROM choice
Thanks to the OP for creating this thread, I was wondering the same thing.
erik1213 said:
Ok, great! I'm coming from the original Incredible and have never heard of AOKP til now, so thanks for helping clarify for me. Looks like AOKP might be my next ROM choice
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You're welcome. I've never heard of it either but I just always assumed it was a name of a ROM
I recommend using franco's kernel with the ROM. Both of them push out updates every other day. You can always wait for feedback on the kernel before flashing but they're usually both good to go in terms of stability
There's a lot of debate about what kang actually means. From what I've read it's developed to mean anytime you take bits and pieces of code from other people and incorporate them into your own mod. If you didn't write it then you "kanged" it from someone else. Someone else probably knows the original origin of the word, but at least this gives a good definition.
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so they are or aren't based off of Klingon technology?
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Now that bytecode has given us CWM, the question becomes what current ROM or branch of cyanogenmod would give us the biggest jump on getting a working image for our phones?
I think CM9 would be a good candidate. It would probably be the most popular choice to get working. I know I'm itching for ICS on our phone. I think it would make it the best phone on the market for now.
I'm no programmer so I can only say my opinion... I think whatever can be done first to get away from LG / AT&T software. If that's CM7, cool, if it's CM9, cool.
I'd think CM7 is the way to go to jump into a custom ROM that you could get working the fastest for this phone. CM7 has been out for a LONG time and it's been well tweaked and it's SOLID!
BUT... CM9 is what's coming (and for more and more phones/tabs, it's what's already here!).
I say even if it takes more effort now (vs. an older and more stable CM7), go right with CM9 and let's get this party started!
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I say even if it takes more effort now (vs. an older and more stable CM7), go right with CM9 and let's get this party started!
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Why not ICS? Maybe it would be easy to port ICS for Galaxy Nexus to Nitro?
I'd say CM7 since by the time you finish getting CM9 figured out and working with the current kernal, it will have already been released by LG.
I'm going to start working on my own custom rom, at least as long as i can figure out how to get my Ubuntu setup... ugg..
Does anyone know any good guides for making your own AOSP ROMS? Or is it all, learned knowledge and experience?
I sure wish I knew what you guys are talking about. Lol
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I think CM9 is the way to go.
Question to any who know, if we were to put CM9 or any ICS on the Nitro, will it use hardware acceleration? That is the main feature I have been waiting for.
red_solo_cup said:
I think CM9 is the way to go.
Question to any who know, if we were to put CM9 or any ICS on the Nitro, will it use hardware acceleration? That is the main feature I have been waiting for.
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Hardware acceleration for the UI? Or 3D / 2D graphics?
I think I read the other day that you can force the UI to use hardware acceleration in the build.prop file. With CWM feel free to tinker.
red_solo_cup said:
I think CM9 is the way to go.
Question to any who know, if we were to put CM9 or any ICS on the Nitro, will it use hardware acceleration? That is the main feature I have been waiting for.
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unless someone on the CM team gets a nitro, there will be no ICS/CM9 until LG puts out a rom.
We need to just start w/ the basics. Optimize (battery life and performance) what we currently have and go from there.
I find your lack of faith...disturbing
Seriously, I think we can get a pretty damn good rom going if we put some work into it.
AllstarE4 said:
I sure wish I knew what you guys are talking about. Lol
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Allstar, here u go
CyanogenMod: http://www.cyanogenmod.com/
CM7 is based on Gingerbread and is a very optimized and customizable ROM (OS) for the phone, which is generally close to perfect and has a myriad of features that you don't normally find in regular/stock ROMs.
CM9 is the same basic concept as CM7, except it is based on ICS (Ice Cream Sandwich, Android's latest OS).
ICS: http://www.android.com/about/ice-cream-sandwich/
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In my opinion, our phone is built to support ICS or any iteration of it (clear stated by the 3 softkeys instead of 4 in gingerbread). So I suggest we proceed with either ICS or CM9.
I don't know if it matters, but I think someone should reach out to CM team and inform them of the development. I am sure they will be very interested in developing CM9 for a phone that is clearly intended to be a rival to the Galaxy Nexus.
The main thing to consider is the kernel , ICS runs on 3.xx kernel and gingerbread on 2.6 , porting 2.6 kernel drivers to 3.xx is alot of work. codeaurora kernel is a good start
https://www.codeaurora.org/contribute/projects/qkernel
bytecode64 said:
The main thing to consider is the kernel , ICS runs on 3.xx kernel and gingerbread on 2.6 , porting 2.6 kernel drivers to 3.xx is alot of work. codeaurora kernel is a good start
https://www.codeaurora.org/contribute/projects/qkernel
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+1
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I think a simple debloated init.d optimized stock ROM should be the starting point. Starting a long project like CM9 will only slow down the adoption rate of the phone because the progress will be slow. I think most people will want to see a couple of ROM choices before they jump aboard.
Once you use CM9 it will automatically start hardware acceleration for smoothness and my upcoming base ROM that i'm including is going to have hardware acceleration and much more, please stay tune.
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moved to general - this isn't a development query
I'm going to bet it will be cm9!
isnt riccardo from G+ already getting close to a ics release for the nitro...
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Is there a difference and if so, what is the difference?
each has changelogs afaik , im using aokp and love it. cant speak for cm yet and unless im mistaken arent they all kangs right now ?
Flash them both, and have a look. It takes all of 5 minutes to flash a ROM. I used the CM9 builds on my Desire, not much of the CM9 extras are working, I'm not sure if that's the same for the Prime.
AOKP has extensive working tweaks, that much I do know.
aokp
difference is its features. cm9 is still in the works so a lot of the options you find in CM7 devices arent present yet.
On zephiK's recommendation I installed AOKP and don't see myself changing. It's a solid ROM.
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Is there a difference and if so, what is the difference?
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There will be. There will be.
But for starters, AOPK is like Cyanogenmod, in the sense that both are based in AOSP. Neither are finished, at their current stages.
Im going from CM9 Kang to AOKP right now. CM9 was getting a little laggy for me (when moving around homescreens). And im sold by the AOKP tweaks
Reading the op of both rom threads can answer this
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Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
azn android said:
Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
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AOSP is Android Open Source Project, Android before manufacturers get their hands on it and install Sense or Touch Wiz. Essentially the Nexus Primes OS. AOKP is Android Open Kang Project a modified AOSP ROM made by Team Kang, with more bells and whistles than the stock Nexus ROM. Hope this helps.
azn android said:
Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
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AOSP - Android Open Source Project. Simply put, this is Android straight from Google, with no modifications. This is what you have on your phone. All of the ROMs here are built on AOSP - most, like AOKP, add modifications, while some don't.
AOKP - Android Open Kang Project. A ROM by Romanbb and his friends, built on AOSP, that adds many modifications and tweaks that aim to improve the end-user experience.
Yes it does thank you! So basically AOSP and AOKP are categories of the type of ROM a ROM is? Are there any other projects or are these the only two ones? Which one offers more stability and fluidness in the OS?
azn android said:
Yes it does thank you! So basically AOSP and AOKP are categories of the type of ROM a ROM is? Are there any other projects or are these the only two ones? Which one offers more stability and fluidness in the OS?
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Almost.
AOSP is the version of Android that comes straight from Google. Manufacturers (such as Samsung, HTC, Motorola, etc) usually like to take AOSP ROMs and add their own modifications to it - and that's how we got Samsung's Touchwiz, HTC's Sense, Motorola's MotoBlur, etc.
However, Google partners up each year with a manufacturer to release a Nexus device. These devices are special in that they always come with AOSP, and because of that, they are always the first to receive updates to the Android OS, and are for the most part the devices with the most developer support on forums such as XDA.
AOKP isn't a type of ROM in itself - it is just a name given to a specific ROM. Like AOKP, you have for example CyanogenMod, which is yet a different ROM. Because we have a Nexus device, all of the ROMs you'll see in our development section are all built straight on AOSP. There are many ROMs out there, all unique in their own way, and the best way to find out which one is right for you is simply to try them all out. It may be scary at first, but after your 1st or 2nd flash, you'll become addicted for a few weeks
Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
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Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
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It's not, where did you read that? CM9 will be built from the ground up using the AOSP released by Google back in November.
Kang are using the Cyanogen GitHub to compile a CM9 beta ROM, as as far as I know, CM haven't released any betas (do they even release beta ROMs?) As far as I know they just go for a final build which is as stable as stable can be, people can't wait for the final builds and build ROMs using their work so we can try them as they are developed by the CM team.
That's my understanding of it anyways.
Oh my bad. I jumped to conclusions when I read the title to this post haha.
azn android said:
Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
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CM is not built off of Kang. Kang is simply a term used to denote a compiled build of a ROM by someone other than that ROM's team or "authorized dealer". For example, User A compiles CM, changed a few lines in the code, and then publishes it here as his own work. That is a kang, and its highly frowned upon.
The reason the CM thread is labeled a "kang" is because there are no official builds of CM9 coming straight from CM yet - they're just experimental builds as of now. The reason why its allowed, is because recognized members of the CM team are releasing them.
I unfortunately don't even have my Nexus yet, but its coming in two days and I'm getting my feet wet. However, from what I've been exposed to, one of the more popular combinations around here seem to be AOKP with Franco's kernel.
I strongly advise you not to flash anything yet, though. You seem motivated to be here, which is good - but you also seem to not know too much about the world of Android yet.
Please, take the time to read through the following links:
Basic Android Terminology
Galaxy Nexus Frequently Asked Questions
Different Guides and Tutorials for the Galaxy Nexus
After you've finished, you'll be a little more familiar with Android and how stuff works. If you have questions, I strongly advise you to search Google and XDA first - I can almost guarantee your question has already been answered before
If you searched, but couldn't find an answer, please post in the Q&A sub-forum - there are many members like myself who love to help new users who are willing to take the time to learn themselves, without expecting others to do their work for them.
Finally, as a general rule, don't post stuff in the development sub-forum that aren't specifically development related. Yes, if you'll go through them, you'll probably see a bunch of posts that aren't tied in directly to development - but two wrongs don't make a right if you have a question about a specific ROM, usually the answer is right in that ROM's thread - if it isn't, most ROMs have IRC chatrooms set up, and if they don't - consider making a thread in the Q&A sub-forum.
In my previous life with my TouchPro2, I used the AOSP roms and they worked well. With my Galaxy S II / D710, I've only used the Sprint based ROMs.. including the latest FC07.
I haven't found any posts comparing the AOKP ROM (which, unless I'm mistaken is based off of AOSP) to these Sprint ROMs..
Are there any major differences or anything that the AOKP ROMs will not do?
I'd be curious to hear opinions from people who have tried both and why they ended up with one over the other.
thx
Just to clarify, they're not "Sprint ROM's", they're called "Touchwiz ROM's". The Touchwiz UI is added on top of Android by Samsung then Sprint adds some apps and there you have it. Now I shall let someone who has experience with AOKP answer better for you since I do not have any experience with AOKP yet.
To be quite honest, there's nothing that one can do that the other probably cant. AOKP and AOSP tend to have more things built into the ROM itself like overclocking, etc.
But in the end, no, there's nothing I can think of that one can do that the other can't. There may be something out there, but I've not come across it yet. I've used both, and I prefer somethings about each.
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To be quite honest, there's nothing that one can do that the other probably cant. AOKP and AOSP tend to have more things built into the ROM itself like overclocking, etc.
But in the end, no, there's nothing I can think of that one can do that the other can't. There may be something out there, but I've not come across it yet. I've used both, and I prefer somethings about each.
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There are some things like cm7 you could use Wii mote with the Bluetooth stack and could not on touch wuz....aokp is cm 9 on steroids..... Lots more customizable
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I haven't tried an AOKP rom but I'm assuming it's very similar to an AOSP rom. I personally think an AOSP rom as a lot less bloat, and right out of the box it's very customizable, but I switched back to a touchwiz rom because I think the samsung camera app is one of the best camera apps out there, plus I think touchwiz runs a lot better on our phones.
Aside from a few "bugs" here and there with the FCxx roms that they are basing the AOKP roms off of, there are only a few faults. One I keep on running into is the Netflix problem. Hell, aside from getting sick of trolling this place for over a year combined with my Streak 7 and my E4GT, I had to try and get in on the action with FC and FB "leaks", CM9, AOKP, and other 2.3 based rom fun.
But seriously, the only problem I have keeping me from making AOKP a daily driver is the Netflix problems. I need my netflix for work.
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Aside from a few "bugs" here and there with the FCxx roms that they are basing the AOKP roms off of, there are only a few faults. One I keep on running into is the Netflix problem. Hell, aside from getting sick of trolling this place for over a year combined with my Streak 7 and my E4GT, I had to try and get in on the action with FC and FB "leaks", CM9, AOKP, and other 2.3 based rom fun.
But seriously, the only problem I have keeping me from making AOKP a daily driver is the Netflix problems. I need my netflix for work.
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aokp is being ported right now but it is just like cm9 it's built from aosp source code ... And not being based off any of the fc or fb leaks .... They are using kernels from them with changes because there is no kernel source to build a aosp kernel with right now
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aokp is being ported right now but it is just like cm9 it's built from aosp source code ... And not being based off any of the fc or fb leaks .... They are using kernels from them with changes because there is no kernel source to build a aosp kernel with right now
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And I learn something new every day.
As a side note: I like AOKP because of pink unicorns.
Quick question guys I have noticed quite a few of our sprint gs3 roms are moving to a pure source, or so they state in the thread. For instance PA, SlimBean, a rom that shall not be mentioned, have stated they will build off pure google source. What the difference between that and CM source? I was under the impression CM uses that same sources and just modifies it?
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Quick question guys I have noticed quite a few of our sprint gs3 roms are moving to a pure source, or so they state in the thread. For instance PA, SlimBean, a rom that shall not be mentioned, have stated they will build off pure google source. What the difference between that and CM source? I was under the impression CM uses that same sources and just modifies it?
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Well a pure AOSP source means its straight from google with no extra modifications done to it what so ever that google hasnt already done. While CM is based on AOSP source they modify it and tweak it and during all that they could have some bugs due to the modifications done by them. So in theory a pure AOSP base would be better because it might be less bug free compared to a CM aosp base and cause less issues
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Well a pure AOSP source means its straight from google with no extra modifications done to it what so ever that google hasnt already done. While CM is based on AOSP source they modify it and tweak it and during all that they could have some bugs due to the modifications done by them. So in theory a pure AOSP base would be better because it might be less bug free compared to a CM aosp base and cause less issues
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The other side of the argument is that things like Touchwiz, Blur and Sense are built to use the hardware of their device better. I also prefer the functionality and style of certain Touchwiz apps versus their AOSP version.