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Do Dev's Use Other Dev's Roms?

I was just curious to know ^^^^^^
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yeah, very often, that's what's call Kanging
the real DEV will create it from source codes
but the ROM Chef will just chop bits and bits from different ROMs and stew it together in a new ROM
eventually the Chefs will level up to become real DEV after acquiring enough experience to move onto the next level
A good example would be MIUI, it started as a Kang, then the team working on it and go serious, now they are following in the foodsteps of CM team, they use CM sources, and then put on their own MIUI add-ons to CM

AllGamer said:
yeah, very often, that's what's call Kanging
the real DEV will create it from source codes
but the ROM Chef will just chop bits and bits from different ROMs and stew it together in a new ROM
eventually the Chefs will level up to become real DEV after acquiring enough experience to move onto the next level
A good example would be MIUI, it started as a Kang, then the team working on it and go serious, now they are following in the foodsteps of CM team, they use CM sources, and then put on their own MIUI add-ons to CM
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Thanks for the quick response but I actually meant for example: Melvin use Whitehawx rom for personal use as a daily driver (not kang). I wonder if devs are flash-a-holic's just like most of us. It would be cool to know that devs actually flash other dev roms for personal use.
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that's a whole different story, at least within XDA, it's a courtesy to get permission first, before adding features found in other ROMs into your own.
personally i don't really see a problem, since it's all open source anyways, and everybody got it from every where else anyways.
however we must abide by the forum honour code regardless, to make everyone happy.
that's basically what it's

Cm 9?

Will there be a cm 9 for the Inc? Because there is a lot of supported phones but not the Inc
I just need to flash something
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Try kushdeck's ROM, I'm running it and it works great.
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Kushdecks rom is pretty great. I ran the latest build for several days with no problem.

You guys both didn't answer the question, lmfao Are we getting dropped?

Technically there are no truly supported device for CM9 as they haven't even made any nightly releases. With that said, according to the official statement, QSD8250 devices (Nexus One, Inc, Evo4g) should be supported. That is planned but not definite.
http://www.cyanogenmod.com/blog/cm9-progress-update
Above is the official statement from CM. If you want CM9 support, CUViper is the CM maintainer for the Inc. Coming from a Galaxy Nexus user using AOSP, AOKP is a great ROM based on stock. CM9 is not really even ready on the GNex so I'd say they're still working on it. It's not as simple as a transition from froyo to gingerbread.

Evervolv ICS rom preview is better than omx and INC-Deck imo. I have a post on rootzwiki with everything you need, link to the rom, gapps and the exchange.apk fix

apophis9283 said:
Evervolv ICS rom preview is better than omx and INC-Deck imo. I have a post on rootzwiki with everything you need, link to the rom, gapps and the exchange.apk fix
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Haha, maybe I should just follow you around apophis and keep giving a +1 to Evervolv ICS p5
But seriously, best ICS rom out there right now IMHO

Hey a good rom is a good rom. Im not bashing other devs but the rom is the most complete at the moment. Since he only post updates on twitter i post everything everywhere i can so more people can have this awesome rom

I used to be a hard core cyanogenmod user and I recently switched over to MIUI which will be coming out with v4 soon
I am much happier with MIUI.. give it a try..

jss24,
Is MIUI v4 based upon ICS? Is there some place that gives info about what can be expected out it. I would like see what they are cooking up.

yes there is a CM9 in the works. most of the ICS builds that are out now for the phone are repo'ed from CM source.

I don't know if CM9 will get inc support but the kushdeck alpha 5 has the camera working now; so feel free to FLASH AWAY!! eh, eh, see what he did there?

There is already a CM9 release out for the INC, but I'm assuming it's very buggy and it is missing some important apps.
Here's the link:
http://rootzwiki.com/topic/10750-romunofficialcm9-with-working-hardware-acceleration/
Be sure to check further down the page for another download that's required in order to boot it up.

Not really a release more along the lines of a port. I dont believe it will have any more support

nope R2 pulled repo from cm so its not a port. they are work on it. we still have one maintainer left. CUViper. i have faith in him.

First line in r2s post says , so i ported cm9 to the inc earlier to see if hardware acceleration worked

Why would he say that if it wasnt a port?

Likely to be a port only, but that's where most of our great ROMs come from. These are called AOSP for a reason...
On another note, CCM7 (V10) is a great ROM to hold you off until ICS hits us in February, oops did I drop dates?
Oh well, I was going to post pictures of my setup, but I guess I am too new.

What is ccm7 v10? Where can it be found

Condemned cm7, ill pass

[Q] AOKP or CM9 kang?

Is there a difference and if so, what is the difference?

each has changelogs afaik , im using aokp and love it. cant speak for cm yet and unless im mistaken arent they all kangs right now ?

Flash them both, and have a look. It takes all of 5 minutes to flash a ROM. I used the CM9 builds on my Desire, not much of the CM9 extras are working, I'm not sure if that's the same for the Prime.
AOKP has extensive working tweaks, that much I do know.

aokp
difference is its features. cm9 is still in the works so a lot of the options you find in CM7 devices arent present yet.

On zephiK's recommendation I installed AOKP and don't see myself changing. It's a solid ROM.

hondaboi20002 said:
Is there a difference and if so, what is the difference?
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There will be. There will be.
But for starters, AOPK is like Cyanogenmod, in the sense that both are based in AOSP. Neither are finished, at their current stages.

Im going from CM9 Kang to AOKP right now. CM9 was getting a little laggy for me (when moving around homescreens). And im sold by the AOKP tweaks

Reading the op of both rom threads can answer this
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Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?

azn android said:
Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
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AOSP is Android Open Source Project, Android before manufacturers get their hands on it and install Sense or Touch Wiz. Essentially the Nexus Primes OS. AOKP is Android Open Kang Project a modified AOSP ROM made by Team Kang, with more bells and whistles than the stock Nexus ROM. Hope this helps.

azn android said:
Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
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Fresh blood
AOSP - Android Open Source Project. Simply put, this is Android straight from Google, with no modifications. This is what you have on your phone. All of the ROMs here are built on AOSP - most, like AOKP, add modifications, while some don't.
AOKP - Android Open Kang Project. A ROM by Romanbb and his friends, built on AOSP, that adds many modifications and tweaks that aim to improve the end-user experience.

Yes it does thank you! So basically AOSP and AOKP are categories of the type of ROM a ROM is? Are there any other projects or are these the only two ones? Which one offers more stability and fluidness in the OS?

azn android said:
Yes it does thank you! So basically AOSP and AOKP are categories of the type of ROM a ROM is? Are there any other projects or are these the only two ones? Which one offers more stability and fluidness in the OS?
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Almost.
AOSP is the version of Android that comes straight from Google. Manufacturers (such as Samsung, HTC, Motorola, etc) usually like to take AOSP ROMs and add their own modifications to it - and that's how we got Samsung's Touchwiz, HTC's Sense, Motorola's MotoBlur, etc.
However, Google partners up each year with a manufacturer to release a Nexus device. These devices are special in that they always come with AOSP, and because of that, they are always the first to receive updates to the Android OS, and are for the most part the devices with the most developer support on forums such as XDA.
AOKP isn't a type of ROM in itself - it is just a name given to a specific ROM. Like AOKP, you have for example CyanogenMod, which is yet a different ROM. Because we have a Nexus device, all of the ROMs you'll see in our development section are all built straight on AOSP. There are many ROMs out there, all unique in their own way, and the best way to find out which one is right for you is simply to try them all out. It may be scary at first, but after your 1st or 2nd flash, you'll become addicted for a few weeks

Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?

azn android said:
Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
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It's not, where did you read that? CM9 will be built from the ground up using the AOSP released by Google back in November.
Kang are using the Cyanogen GitHub to compile a CM9 beta ROM, as as far as I know, CM haven't released any betas (do they even release beta ROMs?) As far as I know they just go for a final build which is as stable as stable can be, people can't wait for the final builds and build ROMs using their work so we can try them as they are developed by the CM team.
That's my understanding of it anyways.

Oh my bad. I jumped to conclusions when I read the title to this post haha.

azn android said:
Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
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CM is not built off of Kang. Kang is simply a term used to denote a compiled build of a ROM by someone other than that ROM's team or "authorized dealer". For example, User A compiles CM, changed a few lines in the code, and then publishes it here as his own work. That is a kang, and its highly frowned upon.
The reason the CM thread is labeled a "kang" is because there are no official builds of CM9 coming straight from CM yet - they're just experimental builds as of now. The reason why its allowed, is because recognized members of the CM team are releasing them.
I unfortunately don't even have my Nexus yet, but its coming in two days and I'm getting my feet wet. However, from what I've been exposed to, one of the more popular combinations around here seem to be AOKP with Franco's kernel.
I strongly advise you not to flash anything yet, though. You seem motivated to be here, which is good - but you also seem to not know too much about the world of Android yet.
Please, take the time to read through the following links:
Basic Android Terminology
Galaxy Nexus Frequently Asked Questions
Different Guides and Tutorials for the Galaxy Nexus
After you've finished, you'll be a little more familiar with Android and how stuff works. If you have questions, I strongly advise you to search Google and XDA first - I can almost guarantee your question has already been answered before
If you searched, but couldn't find an answer, please post in the Q&A sub-forum - there are many members like myself who love to help new users who are willing to take the time to learn themselves, without expecting others to do their work for them.
Finally, as a general rule, don't post stuff in the development sub-forum that aren't specifically development related. Yes, if you'll go through them, you'll probably see a bunch of posts that aren't tied in directly to development - but two wrongs don't make a right if you have a question about a specific ROM, usually the answer is right in that ROM's thread - if it isn't, most ROMs have IRC chatrooms set up, and if they don't - consider making a thread in the Q&A sub-forum.

AOKP vs Sprint ROMs

In my previous life with my TouchPro2, I used the AOSP roms and they worked well. With my Galaxy S II / D710, I've only used the Sprint based ROMs.. including the latest FC07.
I haven't found any posts comparing the AOKP ROM (which, unless I'm mistaken is based off of AOSP) to these Sprint ROMs..
Are there any major differences or anything that the AOKP ROMs will not do?
I'd be curious to hear opinions from people who have tried both and why they ended up with one over the other.
thx

Just to clarify, they're not "Sprint ROM's", they're called "Touchwiz ROM's". The Touchwiz UI is added on top of Android by Samsung then Sprint adds some apps and there you have it. Now I shall let someone who has experience with AOKP answer better for you since I do not have any experience with AOKP yet.

To be quite honest, there's nothing that one can do that the other probably cant. AOKP and AOSP tend to have more things built into the ROM itself like overclocking, etc.
But in the end, no, there's nothing I can think of that one can do that the other can't. There may be something out there, but I've not come across it yet. I've used both, and I prefer somethings about each.

clamknuckle said:
To be quite honest, there's nothing that one can do that the other probably cant. AOKP and AOSP tend to have more things built into the ROM itself like overclocking, etc.
But in the end, no, there's nothing I can think of that one can do that the other can't. There may be something out there, but I've not come across it yet. I've used both, and I prefer somethings about each.
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There are some things like cm7 you could use Wii mote with the Bluetooth stack and could not on touch wuz....aokp is cm 9 on steroids..... Lots more customizable
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I haven't tried an AOKP rom but I'm assuming it's very similar to an AOSP rom. I personally think an AOSP rom as a lot less bloat, and right out of the box it's very customizable, but I switched back to a touchwiz rom because I think the samsung camera app is one of the best camera apps out there, plus I think touchwiz runs a lot better on our phones.

Aside from a few "bugs" here and there with the FCxx roms that they are basing the AOKP roms off of, there are only a few faults. One I keep on running into is the Netflix problem. Hell, aside from getting sick of trolling this place for over a year combined with my Streak 7 and my E4GT, I had to try and get in on the action with FC and FB "leaks", CM9, AOKP, and other 2.3 based rom fun.
But seriously, the only problem I have keeping me from making AOKP a daily driver is the Netflix problems. I need my netflix for work.

Kevin_Q said:
Aside from a few "bugs" here and there with the FCxx roms that they are basing the AOKP roms off of, there are only a few faults. One I keep on running into is the Netflix problem. Hell, aside from getting sick of trolling this place for over a year combined with my Streak 7 and my E4GT, I had to try and get in on the action with FC and FB "leaks", CM9, AOKP, and other 2.3 based rom fun.
But seriously, the only problem I have keeping me from making AOKP a daily driver is the Netflix problems. I need my netflix for work.
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aokp is being ported right now but it is just like cm9 it's built from aosp source code ... And not being based off any of the fc or fb leaks .... They are using kernels from them with changes because there is no kernel source to build a aosp kernel with right now
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Epix4G said:
aokp is being ported right now but it is just like cm9 it's built from aosp source code ... And not being based off any of the fc or fb leaks .... They are using kernels from them with changes because there is no kernel source to build a aosp kernel with right now
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And I learn something new every day.
As a side note: I like AOKP because of pink unicorns.

[Q] ROM Development and AOSP Development overlap?

Pardon the noobish question, but with the release of AOSP Sources for 4.0.4, I'm wondering: How much duplication goes on between ROM devs and AOSP devs?
When ROM devs and Kernel devs are tweaking kernels, are they fixing and optimizing the same things as AOSP devs? Or are they more often working on two different sides of the code, and fixes from one side advance the state of the art for the other?
Another way to put this: Right now, I'm using a custom kernel. Is it likely that a 4.0.4-based custom kernel will actually offer improvements over the current 4.0.3-based version of the same dev's kernel? Or have devs already made most of the tweaks that the AOSP devs did, resulting in a very modest improvement.
I'm just trying to temper my excitement a bit. I know that 4.0.4 would likely be huge coming from stock 4.0.2, but if the ROM devs are already well ahead of the AOSP folks, I won't expect 4.0.4 Gummy to be that different than 4.0.3 Gummy (for instance).

The devs merge the new code and stay current. They keep their tweaks too etc.

RogerPodacter said:
The devs merge the new code and stay current. They keep their tweaks too etc.
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I understand, but I'm wondering how often the Dev tweaks ARE the new changes in a new AOSP release.

wanderfowl said:
I understand, but I'm wondering how often the Dev tweaks ARE the new changes in a new AOSP release.
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Thats pretty rare, though may happen once in a while. Mostly the devs work on new features code and additions. I'll try to think of an example and post if it comes to me.

RogerPodacter said:
Thats pretty rare, though may happen once in a while. Mostly the devs work on new features code and additions. I'll try to think of an example and post if it comes to me.
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The only one I can think of is the swyping of the notifications
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