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[Q] AOKP or CM9 kang?

Is there a difference and if so, what is the difference?

each has changelogs afaik , im using aokp and love it. cant speak for cm yet and unless im mistaken arent they all kangs right now ?

Flash them both, and have a look. It takes all of 5 minutes to flash a ROM. I used the CM9 builds on my Desire, not much of the CM9 extras are working, I'm not sure if that's the same for the Prime.
AOKP has extensive working tweaks, that much I do know.

aokp
difference is its features. cm9 is still in the works so a lot of the options you find in CM7 devices arent present yet.

On zephiK's recommendation I installed AOKP and don't see myself changing. It's a solid ROM.

hondaboi20002 said:
Is there a difference and if so, what is the difference?
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There will be. There will be.
But for starters, AOPK is like Cyanogenmod, in the sense that both are based in AOSP. Neither are finished, at their current stages.

Im going from CM9 Kang to AOKP right now. CM9 was getting a little laggy for me (when moving around homescreens). And im sold by the AOKP tweaks

Reading the op of both rom threads can answer this
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Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?

azn android said:
Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
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AOSP is Android Open Source Project, Android before manufacturers get their hands on it and install Sense or Touch Wiz. Essentially the Nexus Primes OS. AOKP is Android Open Kang Project a modified AOSP ROM made by Team Kang, with more bells and whistles than the stock Nexus ROM. Hope this helps.

azn android said:
Uhm okay I was going to post a topic similar to this but ill save some room on the forums by asking it here:
What is AOSP and AOKP? What do they mean and what are they? Which one is better and what are the differences? Is it a specific ROM or is it like a category?
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AOSP - Android Open Source Project. Simply put, this is Android straight from Google, with no modifications. This is what you have on your phone. All of the ROMs here are built on AOSP - most, like AOKP, add modifications, while some don't.
AOKP - Android Open Kang Project. A ROM by Romanbb and his friends, built on AOSP, that adds many modifications and tweaks that aim to improve the end-user experience.

Yes it does thank you! So basically AOSP and AOKP are categories of the type of ROM a ROM is? Are there any other projects or are these the only two ones? Which one offers more stability and fluidness in the OS?

azn android said:
Yes it does thank you! So basically AOSP and AOKP are categories of the type of ROM a ROM is? Are there any other projects or are these the only two ones? Which one offers more stability and fluidness in the OS?
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Almost.
AOSP is the version of Android that comes straight from Google. Manufacturers (such as Samsung, HTC, Motorola, etc) usually like to take AOSP ROMs and add their own modifications to it - and that's how we got Samsung's Touchwiz, HTC's Sense, Motorola's MotoBlur, etc.
However, Google partners up each year with a manufacturer to release a Nexus device. These devices are special in that they always come with AOSP, and because of that, they are always the first to receive updates to the Android OS, and are for the most part the devices with the most developer support on forums such as XDA.
AOKP isn't a type of ROM in itself - it is just a name given to a specific ROM. Like AOKP, you have for example CyanogenMod, which is yet a different ROM. Because we have a Nexus device, all of the ROMs you'll see in our development section are all built straight on AOSP. There are many ROMs out there, all unique in their own way, and the best way to find out which one is right for you is simply to try them all out. It may be scary at first, but after your 1st or 2nd flash, you'll become addicted for a few weeks

Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?

azn android said:
Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
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It's not, where did you read that? CM9 will be built from the ground up using the AOSP released by Google back in November.
Kang are using the Cyanogen GitHub to compile a CM9 beta ROM, as as far as I know, CM haven't released any betas (do they even release beta ROMs?) As far as I know they just go for a final build which is as stable as stable can be, people can't wait for the final builds and build ROMs using their work so we can try them as they are developed by the CM team.
That's my understanding of it anyways.

Oh my bad. I jumped to conclusions when I read the title to this post haha.

azn android said:
Thanks! Do you have a ROM that you recommend? Also, if all of the nexus ROM's are built off of AOSP, why is CM9 built off of Kang?
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CM is not built off of Kang. Kang is simply a term used to denote a compiled build of a ROM by someone other than that ROM's team or "authorized dealer". For example, User A compiles CM, changed a few lines in the code, and then publishes it here as his own work. That is a kang, and its highly frowned upon.
The reason the CM thread is labeled a "kang" is because there are no official builds of CM9 coming straight from CM yet - they're just experimental builds as of now. The reason why its allowed, is because recognized members of the CM team are releasing them.
I unfortunately don't even have my Nexus yet, but its coming in two days and I'm getting my feet wet. However, from what I've been exposed to, one of the more popular combinations around here seem to be AOKP with Franco's kernel.
I strongly advise you not to flash anything yet, though. You seem motivated to be here, which is good - but you also seem to not know too much about the world of Android yet.
Please, take the time to read through the following links:
Basic Android Terminology
Galaxy Nexus Frequently Asked Questions
Different Guides and Tutorials for the Galaxy Nexus
After you've finished, you'll be a little more familiar with Android and how stuff works. If you have questions, I strongly advise you to search Google and XDA first - I can almost guarantee your question has already been answered before
If you searched, but couldn't find an answer, please post in the Q&A sub-forum - there are many members like myself who love to help new users who are willing to take the time to learn themselves, without expecting others to do their work for them.
Finally, as a general rule, don't post stuff in the development sub-forum that aren't specifically development related. Yes, if you'll go through them, you'll probably see a bunch of posts that aren't tied in directly to development - but two wrongs don't make a right if you have a question about a specific ROM, usually the answer is right in that ROM's thread - if it isn't, most ROMs have IRC chatrooms set up, and if they don't - consider making a thread in the Q&A sub-forum.

Source vs CM Source?

Quick question guys I have noticed quite a few of our sprint gs3 roms are moving to a pure source, or so they state in the thread. For instance PA, SlimBean, a rom that shall not be mentioned, have stated they will build off pure google source. What the difference between that and CM source? I was under the impression CM uses that same sources and just modifies it?

Circaflex said:
Quick question guys I have noticed quite a few of our sprint gs3 roms are moving to a pure source, or so they state in the thread. For instance PA, SlimBean, a rom that shall not be mentioned, have stated they will build off pure google source. What the difference between that and CM source? I was under the impression CM uses that same sources and just modifies it?
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Well a pure AOSP source means its straight from google with no extra modifications done to it what so ever that google hasnt already done. While CM is based on AOSP source they modify it and tweak it and during all that they could have some bugs due to the modifications done by them. So in theory a pure AOSP base would be better because it might be less bug free compared to a CM aosp base and cause less issues

evo4gnoob said:
Well a pure AOSP source means its straight from google with no extra modifications done to it what so ever that google hasnt already done. While CM is based on AOSP source they modify it and tweak it and during all that they could have some bugs due to the modifications done by them. So in theory a pure AOSP base would be better because it might be less bug free compared to a CM aosp base and cause less issues
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The other side of the argument is that things like Touchwiz, Blur and Sense are built to use the hardware of their device better. I also prefer the functionality and style of certain Touchwiz apps versus their AOSP version.

CAF vs Non-CAF, and theme manager.

I haven't had any luck in finding material to explain: what exactly is CAF and Non-Caf?
Bonus points for the bonus question: is theme manager no longer available on tablets? None of the 4-3 or 4-4 ROMs I've tried seemed to have had it.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium HD app

Jamesyboy said:
I haven't had any luck in finding material to explain: what exactly is CAF and Non-Caf?
Bonus points for the bonus question: is theme manager no longer available on tablets? None of the 4-3 or 4-4 ROMs I've tried seemed to have had it.
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CAF kernels are meant for CM roms, like official CM Rom, ports of it and (maybe PAC-man)
So those that aren't based on CM kernels and are running stock, like PA, AOKP etc than their kernels will be non- CAF
Regarding theme managers, it based on the roms that you picked. For eg, you cant find them in AICP build and some of the 4.4.x rom but if you were to go for the 4.3.x based roms, you're able to find theme manger in there

Caf stands for code aurora forum which is a consortium of various mobile companies of which qualcomm is a part of. The kernel source that caf churns out has cpu optimizations that come directly from qualcomm, which in turn provide better performance and battery life than aosp based kernels.

ThatFrigginAzn said:
Caf stands for code aurora forum which is a consortium of various mobile companies of which qualcomm is a part of. The kernel source that caf churns out has cpu optimizations that come directly from qualcomm, which in turn provide better performance and battery life than aosp based kernels.
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I tried both CAF kernel and AOSP derived ones and don't seem to be able to see much of a difference in performance NOR battery life. And seems I'm not a big fan of CM, I would just flash the AOSP derived kernels that are packed with the rom

Jamesyboy said:
I haven't had any luck in finding material to explain: what exactly is CAF and Non-Caf?
Bonus points for the bonus question: is theme manager no longer available on tablets? None of the 4-3 or 4-4 ROMs I've tried seemed to have had it.
Sent from my Nexus 7 using XDA Premium HD app
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How on earth are we supposed to tell? Haha, even the Devs that mention it, like faux, tell you to pick the right version....."car version here..." The problem? Neither are labelled as caf, or non-caf. I suppose the aosp/cm distinction is what gets me. I thought the stock ROM, as well as cm was based off aosp. Neither the ROMs nor the kernels are labelling (a couple have...but most don't even mention it).
The main reason I even bother is because the sound is awefully low....faux sound support or a comparable volume boost is the main feature I'm looking for.
If you happen to know one or two popular kernels that are car/non car, can you mention them by name or link to them?
I'm going to be running slimkat, aosb, or PA (once PA has PA features).

Jamesyboy said:
How on earth are we supposed to tell? Haha, even the Devs that mention it, like faux, tell you to pick the right version....."car version here..." The problem? Neither are labelled as caf, or non-caf. I suppose the aosp/cm distinction is what gets me. I thought the stock ROM, as well as cm was based off aosp. Neither the ROMs nor the kernels are labelling (a couple have...but most don't even mention it).
The main reason I even bother is because the sound is awefully low....faux sound support or a comparable volume boost is the main feature I'm looking for.
If you happen to know one or two popular kernels that are car/non car, can you mention them by name or link to them?
I'm going to be running slimkat, aosb, or PA (once PA has PA features).
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Here's a quick status info as of what rom needs CAF or not
CAF based roms:
- CM (and other derivative)
- PAC-man
- AOSB
AOSP based roms:
- Stock
- Slimkat
- PA
- Carbon
Kernels:
CAF and AOSP support
- Faux
- Glitch
- XGenesis
AOSP support only
- Franco
- ElementalX
Hope it clears some thoughts.
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Which AOSP rom are you currently using and why?

I'm kinda bored of sense, just want to give some twist at my phone and flash an aosp based rom
too bad that, despite we share SoC with nexus 6p, there is no vanilla aosp rom, so we have to go for CM based stuff, which hasn't been my choice since today, but....actually there is no choice....
SO! AOSP guys, what are you running now? I always find cm official not so smooth, and some other roms too much feature packed without performance optimization....
give me your point!

There aren't many to choose from. Either you try RR, cm13, slim and cm13 unofficial. You can even try aicp

Don't all the AOSP roms crash as soon as you try and do 1080p video recording?

Yeah but....I mean, I want to hear your opinion, maybe you saw something I didn't in these roms!...which is your choice?

I'm currently on Vanir AOSP, and meh, the best i've ever tried is slim ROM, can't wait to have time to switch back.

MuyKurioso said:
I'm currently on Vanir AOSP, and meh, the best i've ever tried is slim ROM, can't wait to have time to switch back.
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slim?! mmm...too many brand-focused customizations....launcher button, navbar and stuff
wow, looks like there is something outside here
there is no vanir here so I searched and found it just googling, I also found AICP and MoKee nightlies! I thought that all stuff was here!....
do anyone know any nice project?

I currently use cm13, however, once the dev fixes music issue on RR, I will jump straight back, if you don't mind not using google music, I highly recommend resurrection remix, it is the fastest ROM for the m9 I've tried

OxygenOS 4.0 vs CyanogenMod/LineageOS

Hello guys,
I've recently installed OxygenOS 4.0 on my OP3 and it's not that I don't like it but I miss some features and things like that...I'm just used to CyanogenMod I think.
Is there anyone who has tried both and can tell me if CM/LOS is still riddled with bugs or it can be used as a daily driver without major issues? Also how's battery life on LOS?
Thanks for all the inputs my beloved OP3 users,
jay.
EDIT: Nevermind.............made my decision anyway, thread can be closed/deleted.

So which rom do you use now?

After trying almost every cyanogen/lineage rom and almost every AOSP rom, and despite that they released 7.1.1 already, they are full of bugs and crushes.And the most annoying bug is the call echoes, even in roms where this fixed, the in call vlume so low! And you can control it..
So imho, even that OOS 4 lack of customization, it is most stable and a perfect daily driver

iCstyle said:
So which rom do you use now?
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I use Sultans CM 13 build, the best ROM out there.

there are so much good roms out there.. but yes, OOS 4.0 is really nice and fast.
i run 2 roms atm, but also tried much others (FOS, RR, BJRR, ) and no, they are NOT full of bugs.
atm i run OOS 4.0 and Dirty Unicorns.
both are fast, stable and nice.

Kernel sources for Nougat will roll out when oos4. Is rolling out globaly
https://forums.oneplus.net/threads/kernel-sources-for-nougat.482993/page-3