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I haven't seen this posted anywhere yet, and yes, I know there's another thread about the "confirmed" Dec update from a top dev but I figured this is worthy of its own thread. Sounds like the update might only be for the GSM versions of the phone, and we might have to wait for our specific Epic Touch update, but things must be close at this point.
http://www.intomobile.com/2011/11/26/samsung-galaxy-s-ii-gets-android-236-update/
Go figure....
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Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!
[email protected] said:
Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!
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Indeed my friend.
Sent from the future.
Carriers hold back updates??? They would never do such thing.
I know some updates the carrier has to purchase from the manufacturer and some are free. I don't quite understand where the dividing line is but having to pay for an update would surely slow down a carrier's intention of pushing an update.
Warning about updates
People:
Operating systems are complicated programs.
Whether it's for a desktop PC or a smartphone
there will ALWAYS be bugs. Some bugs only
appear under circumstances that can't be tested
by the manufacturer or service providers. Some bugs
only appear when combined with other applications.
Just know these FACTS:
Manufacturers and service providers aim to make $$$.
They DO NOT make more $$$ when customers are unhappy
and they must provide additional support and services.
Updates and patches will also have bugs.
Custom ROMs will also have bugs.
EVERY new gadget, car or appliance we buy during our lives
WILL HAVE BUGS !
Please accept these words of experience from someone who
has been a gadgetaholic since taking apart a vacuum tube radio
55 YEARS AGO.
Instead of frowning, STOP and look at what we have today
and all the things we can do, that were comic book fantasies
only a short time ago. ENJOY what we have now.
Marvel at what we'll likely be able to do 5 or 10 years from now.
Glenn
P.S. Samsung released Android 3.2 update for my Galaxy Tab 8.9
this past week. Although it fimproved a few things, it also slowed
down my device. My results were confirmed by a dev on XDA who
built one of the custom ROMS for the 8.9 Tab. POINT IS and as
aforementioned, Samsung is trying. Same applies to Sprint and
our E4GT.
so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?
ogeretla said:
so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?
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Can't wait hah
i hope sprint drops ics first and all you people *****ing about no updates can be quiet for once.
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ogeretla said:
so when they do release this for our phones, will i need to unroot to install it? or can someone make a side load for it so we don't have to? any idea?
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This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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weltwon said:
People:
Operating systems are complicated programs.
Whether it's for a desktop PC or a smartphone
there will ALWAYS be bugs. Some bugs only
appear under circumstances that can't be tested
by the manufacturer or service providers. Some bugs
only appear when combined with other applications.
Just know these FACTS:
Manufacturers and service providers aim to make $$$.
They DO NOT make more $$$ when customers are unhappy
and they must provide additional support and services.
Updates and patches will also have bugs.
Custom ROMs will also have bugs.
EVERY new gadget, car or appliance we buy during our lives
WILL HAVE BUGS !
Please accept these words of experience from someone who
has been a gadgetaholic since taking apart a vacuum tube radio
55 YEARS AGO.
Instead of frowning, STOP and look at what we have today
and all the things we can do, that were comic book fantasies
only a short time ago. ENJOY what we have now.
Marvel at what we'll likely be able to do 5 or 10 years from now.
Glenn
P.S. Samsung released Android 3.2 update for my Galaxy Tab 8.9
this past week. Although it fimproved a few things, it also slowed
down my device. My results were confirmed by a dev on XDA who
built one of the custom ROMS for the 8.9 Tab. POINT IS and as
aforementioned, Samsung is trying. Same applies to Sprint and
our E4GT.
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Well said!!
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playya said:
This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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Amen brotha!
Once the first XDA user who knows what they're doing gets an update, it will be posted here so fast that many will find out about it here, not by getting it via OTA. They push them out over several days so most likely there will be a full stock tar to Odin before many of us get it.
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playya said:
This confuses me that people unroot to root again for updates. As long as I have been a part of forums any new updates always come out in a rooted version or a Rom upgrade. We got to do better reading and understanding of what we are doing when we root our phones. This is not a dig directed at you but the million times I hear somebody ask that same question. Smdh
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OK... Thanks.. I didn't know how it worked. This is my first rooted phone.
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[email protected] said:
Well what this proves that Samsung isn't the ones holding back the updates so people need to stop putting the blame on them and start looking at Sprint!
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What the..... ?
How...?
Because the international version is getting something first?
Okay.... the international version also came out first.
The international versions of Samsung devices always get it first.
Samsung has proven time and time again that they are more concerned about the international market than they are the U.S.
It's funny how quickly people forget about history when trying to assign blame.
It's like XDA members live their lives to blame the carriers for everything.
Dammit, it's raining and cold out side, stupid Sprint!
It does make me wonder why AT&Ts Skyrocket just got 2.3.6 pushed to it on 11/22 though, which was released almost 2 months after Sprint's E4GT. Then again, why the Skyrocket and not AT&T's non-LTE GSII? Who knows why these guys do what they do.
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It does make me wonder why AT&Ts Skyrocket just got 2.3.6 pushed to it on 11/22 though, which was released almost 2 months after Sprint's E4GT. Then again, why the Skyrocket and not AT&T's non-LTE GSII? Who knows why these guys do what they do.
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It's GSM.
There's very little, if any difference, between the international version of the SGS2 and the At&t version.
People also seem to forget that the Moment got Froyo before the Hero did.
looks like were getting the 2.3.6 update aswell!
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looks like where getting the 2.3.6 update aswell!
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Given Samsung's spotty support for CDMA devices, I'd rather they spend time on ICS.
We should be getting a update tonight or tomorrow.
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1362744
One member got a update pushed to their phone but has to wait till after class so the devs can work their magic. Its android 2.3.6
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Hey guys. Just got my new company phone after my skyrocket shattered. Can't stand the LG ui ... I want to root. My phone us owned by at&t..as an employee am I at risk to root you think? I'm familiar with root just not sure if it's risky since this phone isn't mine technically
If you know what you're doing and can back up everything for restoral later (CWM can help with this, of course), I don't see why you'd get in trouble for playing with your company phone. Just don't create more work than necessary for support techs and you should be fine lol. Also, you probably don't want to flaunt crazy customizations to your coworkers
Or you could always use Go Launcher Ex and other Go products
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Ya I'm using adw right now with go locker. Still doesn't help me with the LG ui in every core app as well as the nasty notification icons. Any suggestions on how I can get those looking a little better?
As for rooting..I asked a coworker. He said I'd get fired Haha. Not sure how they would ever find out..
AT&T are parasitic leeches, they will find out. Trust me. They monitor the phones. I'd buy a Nitro off contract with a clean ESN and load it onto your account, that way you can say that it's your phone.
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BUT, I would not risk getting fired. Try using a personal AT&T account.
Ya I'm gonna get a personal account when my sprint contract runs out. Anything I can do for notification icons? Or how hideous LG makes everything
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Ya I'm gonna get a personal account when my sprint contract runs out. Anything I can do for notification icons? Or how hideous LG makes everything
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No not yet as there is NO roms or ASOP stuff out for it yet. So rooting or not rooting ur still gonna have it
FWIW, I've worked for At&t for a year and a half, and I've rooted every phone I've had. They can't tell when your phone is rooted; I even have a couple coworkers that have flashed MIUI on their GSIIs.
deedscreen said:
AT&T are parasitic leeches, they will find out. Trust me. They monitor the phones. I'd buy a Nitro off contract with a clean ESN and load it onto your account, that way you can say that it's your phone.
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BUT, I would not risk getting fired. Try using a personal AT&T account.
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Where do you come off with saying that AT&T will find out if your phone is rooted? Firstly, u don't seem to be on AT&T but instead on Sprint. Second, there won't be hundreds of forums dedicated to AT&T android phones if AT&T knows immediately if you root the phone. Third, millions of users Root their phones, and even unlock the bootloader. I just sent my unlocked Atrix back to AT&T due a damaged 3.5mm port, and they didn't even say anything. So please do not provide false information to those who wish to know.
Oh now I'm tempted.. thanks for letting me know. What are the advantages without custom roms? And did you Work retail or does that even matter. And is there a recovery image just in case?
mic.mayorga said:
Oh now I'm tempted.. thanks for letting me know. What are the advantages without custom roms? And did you Work retail or does that even matter. And is there a recovery image just in case?
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There is a recoverory image I think. BUT theres nothing for us to REALLY do to our phones yet. no roms or anything
it seems to me that since you came here inquiring about the risk to your job, that there is indeed some % of chance that you could lose your job over rooting your phone, is that fair to say?
if that's fair to say, I think this is not the best place to seek job security advice + the answer seems obvious.
Ya its not worth my job. I'll just wait for my personal phone in a few months. Thanks for the help guys. That Guy who said he roots all his COUs got me thinking though
Is it true?
HTC Sensation and Sensation XE are being updated today to Android 4.0.3
And my G Nexus is 4.0.2
I thought Nexus would be first with updates?
> # doesn't mean greatness.
enjoy what you have..don't act like a kid
the day that the sensation will not receive android Jelly Bean and Key Lime Pie, the sensation's users will cry more than you
Maybe not for you, bur for me it does!
I bought my Nexus because everywhere I read about it was said that Nexus-phones get updates first from Vanilla Android.
And now HTC even ported their Sense over it?
Im starting to regret that I bought my Nexus. My SE Arc maybe wasnt that fast, but was more thinner and took much better pictures!
I dont mean to act like a kid.
Just dissapointed of all bull*¤&% about Nexus.
Inferis said:
Maybe not for you, bur for me it does!
I bought my Nexus because everywhere I read about it was said that Nexus-phones get updates first from Vanilla Android.
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if you really want, i can make for you a flashable zip with android 5.0 (at least you will see and can show it to your friends from the menu settings/about phone)
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if you really want, i can make for you a flashable zip with android 5.0 (at least you will see and can show it to your friends from the menu settings/about phone)
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No, I want 4.0.4 (not found ;-) with better radio as told here.
But dont want to risk getting bricked, so Im waiting for Stock update.
Inferis said:
Is it true?
HTC Sensation and Sensation XE are being updated today to Android 4.0.3
And my G Nexus is 4.0.2
I thought Nexus would be first with updates?
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Several tablets, like the Transformer Prime, have been on 4.0.3 for weeks. You were guaranteed timely updates for the useful life of your phone, which is about 18 months. Not first.
Inferis said:
No, I want 4.0.4 (not found ;-) with better radio as told here.
But dont want to risk getting bricked, so Im waiting for Stock update.
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Good play on version #
As more phone makers start to roll out ICS you'll see more and more version #'s, not necessarily equating to any tangible improvements.
This is a silly thread with a silly concern. Go root your phone.
Inferis said:
Maybe not for you, bur for me it does!
I bought my Nexus because everywhere I read about it was said that Nexus-phones get updates first from Vanilla Android.
And now HTC even ported their Sense over it?
Im starting to regret that I bought my Nexus. My SE Arc maybe wasnt that fast, but was more thinner and took much better pictures!
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Then sell your Nexus and go back. Nobody is making you keep it. you can root your phone and put 4.0.3 or even a 4.0.4 rom on it. If you dont want to root you phone you can unlock it, temporarily boot CWM and flash the stock 4.0.4 OTA.
Inferis said:
I dont mean to act like a kid.
Just dissapointed of all bull*¤&% about Nexus.
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well, you are acting like a kid. grow up.
I'm sorry you don't like your Nexus, but no one is forcing you to use it. Feel free to sell it and buy any HTC phone if you'd like. Truth is that the Nexus will still be the first to be updated to vanilla Android, because no other phone in existence will have it. You go buy the HTC phone it will have 4.0.3 and that's amazing! But it has Sense, and when it comes to the next update, you'll be *****ing again that its not coming and you'll want your Nexus back.
The fact that you'd consider leaving the Nexus on 4.0.2 for an HTC phone on 4.0.3 because its x.x.1 higher leads me to believe that you don't understand how great having a Nexus is.
I dont understand this impatience. The nexus will get the 4.0.4 update, likely very soon. Google is just finishing everything. They are not sitting around doing nothing. And they are not purposely holding back. They WANT us to have the update. Its just taking time.
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I dont understand this impatience. The nexus will get the 4.0.4 update, likely very soon. Google is just finishing everything. They are not sitting around doing nothing. And they are not purposely holding back. They WANT us to have the update. Its just taking time.
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Most of the big babies of the forum crying foul are from the now generation. They do not understand things like patience, or something 'taking time.'
As far as complaining you don't have 4.0.3, what improvements in .3 are you waiting for over .2 exactly?
adrynalyne said:
Most of the big babies of the forum crying foul are from the now generation. They do not understand things like patience, or something 'taking time.'
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Speaking of the "now generation" when are we getting a new BAMF? Jk man.
LOL.
Last I heard was next week, which will (hopefully) mark the first launch of the Maguro version.
Fine, Ill go rooting then.
But you guys really help me out if I dont succeed!
AFAIK theres a better radio (which is really useless today) in 4.0.4 or 4.0.3
If you really dont want your nexus i'll take it... Mine is in the shop getting wifi fixed. Had to RMA and i'm really missing it. I'm stuck using this brick of a Dell Streak, not having my nexus is really bad. But on the bright side I still have my Gtab running 4.0.3!
Why am I waiting on VZW for 4.0.4? I understood (or misunderstood) the Nexus line to get their updates directly from Google. This played a significant role in my decision to go with the Galaxy Nexus. So, what changed? I'm sure the Nexus One got updates direct from Google...didn't it? Also, I noticed a couple VZW branded uninstallable apps preloaded on it...why is there ANYTHING non-Google preloaded if it's "Pure Google?"
Man, I must have misunderstood something.
Because you are too lazy to root your phone?
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miketoasty said:
Because you are too lazy to root your phone?
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+1. Root it & put 4.0.4 on it yourself. Eff vzw.
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There wasn't a CDMA Nexus One, so yes it got its updates from Google.
This is actually nothing new, nothing has changed. Its been the exact same with the NS4G on Sprint. Verizon has closed-source radio code that they have to add themselves and test before sending it out. THAT is why you're waiting for Verizon.
As for the apps, just disable them and stop crying. Its the same deal, if a phone is gonna be on Verizon it's gonna have those apps.
If it bothers you that bad, buy a GSM model.
This has been argued/explained at length in many threads, blogs, podcasts and posts.
CDMA Nexii are slightly different. They get updates sent from Google to the carriers(ie Sprint and Verizon). GSM Nexii on the other hand, get updates directly from Google. It was known for a while now that this was the case, which means you didn't do your research.
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miketoasty said:
Because you are too lazy to root your phone?
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Shouldn't have to.
Anyway, it's clear that VZW is incapable of responsibly having a Nexus phone in their lineup. I hope they don't get one ever again unless Google manages to get some leverage on them like Apple does.
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Anyway, it's clear that VZW is incapable of responsibly having a Nexus phone in their lineup. I hope they don't get one ever again unless Google manages to get some leverage on them like Apple does.
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Apple doesn't have any special leverages over carriers for OS updates when compared to the Nexus. They need Verizon's proprietary code and testing just as much. They need the same with AT&T and Sprint.
We just don't get any leaks on iOS updates, and Apple only releases an iOS update when its ready for everyone. They don't release iOS earlier for their unlocked models because they want to release it for everyone at once. It'd be the exact same deal if Google held the update for everyone and didn't push it till Verizon was done.
And you're right, he shouldn't have to root his phone. If he wants to wait he can wait and he'll get the OTA when its pushed to everyone on the Verizon model. Rooting isn't the only way to get the OTA. It does come w/o rooting if you wait.
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Shouldn't have to.
Anyway, it's clear that VZW is incapable of responsibly having a Nexus phone in their lineup. I hope they don't get one ever again unless Google manages to get some leverage on them like Apple does.
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Like mentioned earlier VZW still customizes android with radios and bloatware. So despite the newest Google android releases for GSM deices VZW still tinkers with the latest version goes through a testing phase then pushes it to end users eventually. The beauty of a Nexus phone is user freedom to customize and use roms with ease. Quit waiting on Big Red, take your phone back flash the latest software yourself.
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Like mentioned earlier VZW still customizes android with radios and bloatware. So despite the newest Google android releases for GSM deices VZW still tinkers with the latest version goes through a testing phase then pushes it to end users eventually. The beauty of a Nexus phone is user freedom to customize and use roms with ease. Quit waiting on Big Red, take your phone back flash the latest software yourself.
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VZW doesn't customize anything. The bloatware is just like 2-3 apps that are Verizon apps.
Radios are handled by Samsung.
Verizon Galaxy Nexus isn't a true 'nexus' device. People will debate with me but honestly it isn't,
1) No images flashed to 4.0.4 (they are archived on Google's website to 4.0.2 now but won't be updated).
2) Carrier has to approve update.
If you want the true Nexus feeling, get the GSM model of the phone.
If you don't want to root / flash your phone, then don't complain about not getting 4.0.4. GSM users have to wait for the OTA as well unless they root and manually flash. You can manually flash 4.0.4 OTA on VZW as well.
But GSM will get it first because they dont have to be approved.
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VZW doesn't customize anything. The bloatware is just like 2-3 apps that are Verizon apps.
Radios are handled by Samsung.
Verizon Galaxy Nexus isn't a true 'nexus' device. People will debate with me but honestly it isn't,
1) No images flashed to 4.0.4 (they are archived on Google's website to 4.0.2 now but won't be updated).
2) Carrier has to approve update.
If you want the true Nexus feeling, get the GSM model of the phone.
If you don't want to root / flash your phone, then don't complain about not getting 4.0.4. GSM users have to wait for the OTA as well unless they root and manually flash. You can manually flash 4.0.4 OTA on VZW as well.
But GSM will get it first because they dont have to be approved.
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what you stated here and was really my trying point is that veriosn needs to approve the software including the 2 to 3 apps and radios before the push to users ... i don't think anyone can deny that verison's version isn't true nexus
the only real nexus's are the Yakju/Takju builds ... which any gsm version could be converted to
zephiK said:
VZW doesn't customize anything. The bloatware is just like 2-3 apps that are Verizon apps.
Radios are handled by Samsung.
Verizon Galaxy Nexus isn't a true 'nexus' device. People will debate with me but honestly it isn't,
1) No images flashed to 4.0.4 (they are archived on Google's website to 4.0.2 now but won't be updated).
2) Carrier has to approve update.
If you want the true Nexus feeling, get the GSM model of the phone.
If you don't want to root / flash your phone, then don't complain about not getting 4.0.4. GSM users have to wait for the OTA as well unless they root and manually flash. You can manually flash 4.0.4 OTA on VZW as well.
But GSM will get it first because they dont have to be approved.
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They are updating what binaries they can provide, so don't be so sure they won't be updating images. Your definition of a true Nexus and mine differ.
VZW Galaxy Nexus still gets updates directly from Google. It just has to be put under review/testing from Verizon before it gets pushed.
Plus, who actually depends on the OTA? You're on XDA after all.
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zephiK said:
VZW doesn't customize anything. The bloatware is just like 2-3 apps that are Verizon apps.
Radios are handled by Samsung.
Verizon Galaxy Nexus isn't a true 'nexus' device. People will debate with me but honestly it isn't,
1) No images flashed to 4.0.4 (they are archived on Google's website to 4.0.2 now but won't be updated).
2) Carrier has to approve update.
If you want the true Nexus feeling, get the GSM model of the phone.
If you don't want to root / flash your phone, then don't complain about not getting 4.0.4. GSM users have to wait for the OTA as well unless they root and manually flash. You can manually flash 4.0.4 OTA on VZW as well.
But GSM will get it first because they dont have to be approved.
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The radios are handled by Qualcomm/Verizon. It's a "true" nexus device. It meets all the criteria. Just because it gets a .0.1 revision update a week later (or whatever it was) doesn't mean ****. Seriously? Gonna cry of a couple small bug fixes? As to the CDMA binaries not being available, talk to Qualcomm, they made most of the binaries/radios.
You may not have to wait much longer. Vzw started to push 4.0.4 (Imm76K) last week.
It's in the Vzw Dev forum if you don't want to wait and don't mind unlocking and rooting
You guys are really proud of rooting your phone. Sounds like you need something bigger in your life. I ask a few questions and suddenly I'm lazy & crying. Really, if this is big enough to get upset over, then you need to lay off the internet a little. Go find something worth getting upset over.
No one is upset. In the time it took creating this thread and replying to posts, you could have rooted and been on 4.0.4. I think that's the point everyone's trying to convey.
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meganame said:
You guys are really proud of rooting your phone. Sounds like you need something bigger in your life. I ask a few questions and suddenly I'm lazy & crying. Really, if this is big enough to get upset over, then you need to lay off the internet a little. Go find something worth getting upset over.
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No need to meet harshness with harshness.
Its obvious you're upset about this whole thing or you wouldn't have created a thread about it. You need to just decide what's important to you, read up on it, and if you find you don't want to "wait for Verizon" then I'll tell you again to buy a GSM model.
keith.mcintyre26 said:
No one is upset. In the time it took creating this thread and replying to posts, you could have rooted and been on 4.0.4. I think that's the point everyone's trying to convey.
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Ah, well those words conveyed it better.
keith.mcintyre26 said:
No one is upset. In the time it took creating this thread and replying to posts, you could have rooted and been on 4.0.4. I think that's the point everyone's trying to convey.
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Not really helping... I think what he's trying to get people to understand is that he shouldn't have to root to get the OTA. And all people on XDA do is say "shut up noob, just root your ph0n3".
OP, whether you like it or not this thread is going to turn into a nasty, nasty flame war in a couple pages. Sorry.
martonikaj said:
Not really helping... I think what he's trying to get people to understand is that he shouldn't have to root to get the OTA. And all people on XDA do is say "shut up noob, just root your ph0n3".
OP, whether you like it or not this thread is going to turn into a nasty, nasty flame war in a couple pages. Sorry.
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Its true.
They should really stress the fact that XDA is a development site and not Verizon support forums.
Seriously though, you came on XDA and posted this thread. You could've rooted, unlocked, and flashed 4.0.4 by now.
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martonikaj said:
Apple doesn't have any special leverages over carriers for OS updates when compared to the Nexus. They need Verizon's proprietary code and testing just as much. They need the same with AT&T and Sprint.
We just don't get any leaks on iOS updates, and Apple only releases an iOS update when its ready for everyone. They don't release iOS earlier for their unlocked models because they want to release it for everyone at once. It'd be the exact same deal if Google held the update for everyone and didn't push it till Verizon was done.
And you're right, he shouldn't have to root his phone. If he wants to wait he can wait and he'll get the OTA when its pushed to everyone on the Verizon model. Rooting isn't the only way to get the OTA. It does come w/o rooting if you wait.
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Apple most definitely has leverage over carriers. If they didn't, you'd see bloatware on subsidized iPhones & updates being pushed at different times. Leaks don't matter because Apple makes their beta iOS builds readily available to those enrolled in the iOS development program.
A lot of fandroids don't want to admit that there ARE benefits to being a control freak, especially when you're one of the richest and most famous companies in the entire world. Apple doesn't order VZW around, but you can be damn sure that VZW doesn't order Apple around either. VZW telling Apple what changes they want made to the OS? LOL, not going to happen.
Ive been searching night and day trying to find a way to root my galaxy S3 (SCH-i535) running 4.4.2 . Ive come up empty handed and as may know TOWEL ROOT DOES NOT WORK ON THIS BUILD. The most progress I have made is unlocking developer options with 7-tap doctrine. (haha) So this is pretty much a "calling all car" for those out there who are well versed in the art of rooting and all things $ sudo.
Info on safely reverting to an android OS that is rootable would also be useful.
l or any knowledge about the SCH-I535PP on 4.4.3 (pre paid verizon Galaxy S3) and exploits discovers .
Im lightly knowledgeable in Terminal, soooooo. If any one knows some work arounds or anything that would at least make me smile please feel free to write.
Tell me me what you all know and restore my faith in the power of the internet community.
much love,
-Lifehertz
ive also been looking
ive also been looking to root my phone also. all ive been able to dig up is possible roms that might be flashable with this model. and help would be greatly appreciated!
I knew I wasnt alone.
For some reason i have faith that someone is working on getting this phone rootable.
Until then lets keep the conversation going.
Do you have any links to these rims. Also, what are your thoughts?
I want root too because this phone is not compatible with samsung gear apps for my neo...very heartbreaking. ..wanted to put more apps on my watch but can't because this verizon galaxy s3 prepaid is not updated like all the other ones.....
Hey guys, I'm just posting to join in the misery. I feel like a hero for getting past the activation setup wizard! I have spent many hours researching how to root this stupid phone, and at this point its my white whale. There will be a way eventually, and this thread can be our anchor when that day comes. If anyone has a problem with the setup wizard, let me know.
The white whale under my friend.
Im curious as to how long the SCH-I535PP has been available on 4.4.3.
Because if it has been a short amount of time then the true developers and root wizards
Probably haven't had much need or want to work on a root for this phone.
I am noticing though after walmart dropped the price of the phone severely
And christmas came around. There are a Lot of new SCH-I535PP users. So maybe if we keep asking around and raising awareness about this build needing root, then a root genie will hear the cries of the community and get to work granting us our wish.
Verizon really locked this up with the recent update. This phone is two years old and there are many stronger phones coming out the root gods are focusing on blessing. But, its not hard to see that the SCH-I535PP is fantastic tool for its price point.
Please, anyone who reads this and is well versed in rooting phones, please do the SCH-I535PP community a solid and help us step out from being the prison bars of 4.4.2.
Thank you for letting me ramble. I hope it helped keep the spirit alive. Haha
Disclaimer: I'm an android noob, and everything in this post could be wrong. I'm just trying.
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Im curious as to how long the SCH-I535PP has been available on 4.4.3.
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I know that version of kitkat was released on June 2nd, 2014, if that helps.
I don't understand whether ALL sch-i535 after that date are blocked from rooting, or ONLY the sch-i535pp (prepaid) version. I've read conflicting things because the circumstances change over time, but the threads on forums stay the same. What was true 5 months ago might not be true anymore.
I believe (could be wrong) that every single phone that was updated after June 2nd is completely SOL and blocked from being rooted. I think Towelroot was the last thing that worked for anybody, and even that method is lost to ANYTHING with a Kernel date of June 3rd or later. Mine is July 22nd. I believe the truth is that the vast majority of people that are rooted are just not updating to KitKat because they know it will un-root them and the party is over. I think that anyone with a phone that is old but updated to kitkat can reset to factory and get back to JellyBean or whatever version they originally had that can be rooted. So that leaves a small, but growing population that just simply can't root because we have the newest galaxy S3s with late kernel dates off the shelf . It's just getting harder and harder to find exploits. They guy who wrote towelroot works for google now, finding/fixing exploits that he once used to hack phones.
Either the population will catch up with us 'un-rootables' or they will leave us behind as bigger and better things come along. The Galaxy S3 is (kind of) yesterday's problem. I'm just sayin.....
I truly hate to be the burden of bad news but I can't say I'm surprised by verizon finally locking down the S3. The contract version was rumored to have been locked down with a version past the last official OTA of 4.4.2 but it seems that the pp version was moved to 4.4.3 which in all seriousness was then locked down by big red
Going forward I'd stay away from verizon as far as phones go, the short version of this is the fact that they will try anything possible to lock down every android phone they can
My S3 running BlissStalk
Damn it. The mutiny. The injustice!
Im beginning to accept this fact. You all have been great. If verizon is a bust, do you know of any prepaid phones that are easily rooted? I might sell this stupid paper weight. My goal is to be able to fully use terminal and learn the android Unix shell. These things are extremely powerful and yet we arent supposed to know or use its power..
Anyways. I don't know much about using Sims on phones because ive only owned CDMA. I don't really need a nee phone. Just somthing with 2gb of ram at least. Any suggestions or experiencs?
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Any suggestions?
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Don't bother with the Aquos Crystal. It's such a great phone for the price, but it hasn't been rooted yet. I have one, and I enjoy it for the stock.
lifehertz said:
Im beginning to accept this fact. You all have been great. If verizon is a bust, do you know of any prepaid phones that are easily rooted? I might sell this stupid paper weight. My goal is to be able to fully use terminal and learn the android Unix shell. These things are extremely powerful and yet we arent supposed to know or use its power..
Anyways. I don't know much about using Sims on phones because ive only owned CDMA. I don't really need a nee phone. Just somthing with 2gb of ram at least. Any suggestions or experiencs?
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Sadly I don't off hand no, I moved over to straight talk and thankfully can get almost any phone I'd like. I'm currently debating on a Nexus 5
My S3 running BlissStalk
I Have An Idea!!!!!!!!
How about someone looks for the 4.3 kernel for this phone, flashes it through ODIN, root with towelroot, and goes back to the new kernel with root! That's what they did with the AT&T Galaxy S5, and it should work and Verizon devices too.
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How about someone looks for the 4.3 kernel for this phone, flashes it through ODIN, root with towelroot, and goes back to the new kernel with root! That's what they did with the AT&T Galaxy S5, and it should work and Verizon devices too.
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If you flash a kernel on the VZW S3 you will brick the phone on a locked bootloader
Sent from my Nexus 5
ShapesBlue said:
If you flash a kernel on the VZW S3 you will brick the phone on a locked bootloader
Sent from my Nexus 5
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I doubt that'll happen, since the AT&T and Verizon S5 and many other devices have been rooted with downgrading the kernel. Either way though, IDK if it'll even work, sknce it sounds impossible to boot a JB kernel on a KK platform. Has anyone tried Cydia Impactor on this device?
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I doubt that'll happen, since the AT&T and Verizon S5 and many other devices have been rooted with downgrading the kernel. Either way though, IDK if it'll even work, sknce it sounds impossible to boot a JB kernel on a KK platform. Has anyone tried Cydia Impactor on this device?
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On the S3 I've been around here and seen many people do just that. While it may be an option on other devices even the VZW S5 it will not work on the S3
Sent from my Nexus 5
I honestly think we're screwed guys. I'm not lying, I've tried 6 OR MORE DIFFERENT METHODS to root!!!!! The kernel probably denies any file by the name of "su" or any file in general to be pushed from adb to the /system partition or any root partition. Let's just quit and leave it to Chainfire lol
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I honestly think we're screwed guys. I'm not lying, I've tried 6 OR MORE DIFFERENT METHODS to root!!!!! The kernel probably denies any file by the name of "su" or any file in general to be pushed from adb to the /system partition or any root partition. Let's just quit and leave it to Chainfire lol
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While chainfire is an excellent developer I doubt even he can crack what VZW did to this device
Sent from my Nexus 5
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While chainfire is an excellent developer I doubt even he can crack what VZW did to this device
Sent from my Nexus 5
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And I surely doubt it too, unfortunately. I dream of the day Big Red will cut the ****.
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And I surely doubt it too, unfortunately. I dream of the day Big Red will cut the ****.
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I'd say probably never, especially when they can basically tell there customers to do whatever they want when they want. I think it would be nice but I highly doubt it
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I'd say probably never, especially when they can basically tell there customers to do whatever they want when they want. I think it would be nice but I highly doubt it
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I want to root this phone too. The kingroot 4.1 do not work phone just reboot.