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[Q] To root, or not to root...?

So, I've been rooting since my days with the Dinc. I've got a Vzw Gnex, that I had rooted as soon as I got it. I then unrooted and relocked to upgrade to 4.1.1. I've thought about re-rooting, but I'm pretty damn happy with stock. But, I want 4.2. I'm willing to wait, if Vzw is going to release an official build, but I haven't heard anything.
Has anyone heard of or seen anything about Vzw's plans for releasing a 4.2 build?
Thanks!

Srsly?
You live in the real world right? Isn't rooting a kid's thing these days?
Come back Nov 15th.
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OP the VZW Gnex will probably eventually see 4.2 officially, but no one knows, and no one will know until it is available (or until it leaks), which wont be any time real soon. If you want 4.2 sooner rather than later, then you will have to go custom.
bk201doesntexist said:
Isn't rooting a kid's thing these days?
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Only if kids are the only ones interested in getting the most out of their devices.

Thanks, WiredPirate.
bk201doesntexist, I don't understand. Are you saying that rooting is a kid's thing because it's easy? Yes, I know, I root my phones all the time. I just happen to not be rooted right now. Or, are you saying that rooting is a kid's thing be cause it's SOOO last year? If so, what's the cool thing that you're into. Either way, stop being a ****.

IMO, the whole point of any Nexus phones are its root-ability and leverage the strength of the dev community. Otherwise you are better off with a GS3 or HTC One.

Lol. What i really meant was "is it really that hard to browse the web a little bit, any android fansite, to know the current standpoint?"
And the title of the thread? That alone was enough to make post like that. Think what you want of me. And rooting is dead easy on this device, i know it, you know it. And i'm well aware that "rooting" is for people who want to get the most out of their phones... in some cases. Others just think they need "to get the most out of their phones".
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wunderkind said:
IMO, the whole point of any Nexus phones are its root-ability and leverage the strength of the dev community. Otherwise you are better off with a GS3 or HTC One.
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Also the GNEX gets the updates first..
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shmengie said:
So, I've been rooting since my days with the Dinc. I've got a Vzw Gnex, that I had rooted as soon as I got it. I then unrooted and relocked to upgrade to 4.1.1. I've thought about re-rooting, but I'm pretty damn happy with stock. But, I want 4.2. I'm willing to wait, if Vzw is going to release an official build, but I haven't heard anything.
Has anyone heard of or seen anything about Vzw's plans for releasing a 4.2 build?
Thanks!
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This is the first phone that i didnt have to root.. stock is awsome and dnt need any scripts/mods for the cpu or ram "no need to overclock or set the minfreekiller" im not sayin other people dont want or need that still.. im just sayin im happy
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The best part is you can root or unroot, lock or unlock your phone phone anytime you want. At the end of the day, it depends on how you use your phone. My guess is you wouldn't be posting on XDA if you weren't at least curious, so I say, go for it and have fun.

(Q) New Galaxy Nexus...?

Hey guys so I caved and got the Galaxy Nexus the play store version as I saw the receipt I had payed 300 bucks for it as it is the 16 gig, and in like brand new like condition... Even the box was still newish like what ever that I is supposed to mean...
Now I have had the HTC n1 and the Nexus s and a slew of other phones...
I was gonna order the N4 but this bloody thing came with an otter box and a zagg screen guard... All for 300 bones...
Now this is what I need k I was fine with other phones but for some reason this suckered has me like confused...
I need too get this beast rooted and flashed up on some recovery software and what the best rom would be for this hand set and the best kernel as such I see a lot on Here for this phone and is going too need like crazy battery life and decent performance when needed...
If yeah can be kind as to direct me to all the best roms like the top 5 kinda thing and kernels and what ever else to make this phone the best that it can be... Also keeping in mind that I am in Canada in the southwest region of Ontario on the Wind mobility network so please be kind lol
Oh in other news I ran in to a guy on kijiji he had a slew of games and BlOps2... So I didn't believe and I met the guy and he showed me it and it was real as real can be... And had NukeTown 2025... Sweet eh... Just thought I would put that out there...
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go in the dev section...the toolkit thread read it and then use it, it looks a little confusing at first but its pretty simple afterwards
cna is the best rom imo and try pa if you want hybrid

k786 said:
go in the dev section...the toolkit thread read it and then use it, it looks a little confusing at first but its pretty simple afterwards
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Please don't.
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k786 said:
cna is the best rom
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+1
But I must say that AOKP is really good as well. I am running AOKP now and I'm loving it.
Regards,
UselessSniper001

bk201doesntexist said:
Please don't.
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UselessSniper001 said:
+1
But I must say that AOKP is really good as well. I am running AOKP now and I'm loving it.
Regards,
UselessSniper001
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been some time since i tried aokp..might give it a try if i can leave pa lol

Yeah know I really enjoy this phone and such I just totally want it too go far for me.... I have a habit of buying lemons and so for I enjoy and nothing whacky has gone on yet... Still getting used to the Otterbox commuter case is a bit bulky...I also don't know if it is just me but the screens seems like dimish... I dunno what do you guy think good buy for 300 bucks...
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k786 said:
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confused?
then I will clear it up for you: don't point new users to a toolkit - will you help them when they f up because they don't know what they did (and neither do you)? do you want people to stay dumb or to learn how to do stuff and understand the process??

bk201doesntexist said:
confused?
then I will clear it up for you: don't point new users to a toolkit - will you help them when they f up because they don't know what they did (and neither do you)? do you want people to stay dumb or to learn how to do stuff and understand the process??
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if they f up when i specifically said "read and then use it" then they shouldnt be messing with their phone in the first place.. rather than posting this useless post you could have tried to "point the new user" in the right direction.. and the toolkit is easy to use and explains what every option does, i could have told him to use adb but that would have confused him even more
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Buckii said:
Yeah know I really enjoy this phone and such I just totally want it too go far for me.... I have a habit of buying lemons and so for I enjoy and nothing whacky has gone on yet... Still getting used to the Otterbox commuter case is a bit bulky...I also don't know if it is just me but the screens seems like dimish... I dunno what do you guy think good buy for 300 bucks...
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it would be smarter to wait till november 13 and buy the n4 imo.. its newer, has better specs, and costs the same as the gnex

k786 said:
if they f up when i specifically said "read and then use it" then they shouldnt be messing with their phone in the first place.. rather than posting this useless post you could have tried to "point the new user" in the right direction.. and the toolkit is easy to use and explains what every option does, i could have told him to use adb but that would have confused him even more
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it would be smarter to wait till november 13 and buy the n4 imo.. its newer, has better specs, and costs the same as the gnex
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I am going to have to go with you on this one. If you read up well before you do anything it shouldn't be a problem. I have the motto of read 3 times then do just so you have a good grasp on what is going on. I was new to the ToolKit when I used it but after reading up and watching a couple vids on it, it was pretty easy and I had zero problems with the kit. I do however feel the need to tell people that if they are not comfortable or feel uneasy then you shouldn't do it nor should you try cause it can cause problems.

If you read up...
Read up on the guide stickied here.
Or in my signature.
There is no reason [zero] to use a toolkit on a nexus.

I like rasbean jelly
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no roms yet?

so why do all the other note 4 variants have roms except for att?

xtkxhom3r said:
so why do all the other note 4 variants have roms except for att?
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1. Locked bootloader (so no custom recovery for flashing ROMS, unless we get Safestrap)
2. No Root (no root, then no Safestrap)
Verizon is the same way with the normal consumer edition. The only reason they have ROMs is for the Developer Edition version that Verizon has.

http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/orig-development/sm-n910-cf-auto-root-t2897428
that root wont work??

xtkxhom3r said:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/note-4/orig-development/sm-n910-cf-auto-root-t2897428
that root wont work??
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No. Our device is not on that list. We have the N910A version (AT&T obviously).
AutoRoot List

Also, even with root on the ATT version, Safestrap may not work because of SELinux. It may take additional months of development time to figure out a new hook (if it's been fixed) to install the safestrap hijack. SELinux has to be set to permissive for safestrap no matter what and I don't know if that's possible with root on the note 4 with a locked bootloader. Lot's of questions still to be answered.

mircury said:
Also, even with root on the ATT version, Safestrap may not work because of SELinux. It may take additional months of development time to figure out a new hook (if it's been fixed) to install the safestrap hijack. SELinux has to be set to permissive for safestrap no matter what and I don't know if that's possible with root on the note 4 with a locked bootloader. Lot's of questions still to be answered.
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and THAT is why I decided to buy a SM-910T. I just don't see root coming for the AT&T phone anytime soon. Developers are already doing great work on the T mobile Variant which works on AT&T, Personally I passed on the Note 3 because of "safestrap" I wanted a device I could use ODIN on and flash a custom recovery without worry about bootloaders.

tbong777 said:
and THAT is why I decided to buy a SM-910T. I just don't see root coming for the AT&T phone anytime soon. Developers are already doing great work on the T mobile Variant which works on AT&T, Personally I passed on the Note 3 because of "safestrap" I wanted a device I could use ODIN on and flash a custom recovery without worry about bootloaders.
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Yea thanks, we got it, you bought a t-mobile version.

dam....oh well the wait continues then thanks for all the great info guys

brittoking said:
Yea thanks, we got it, you bought a t-mobile version.
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Apparently you didn't...Don't feel bad......There are still may available on Swappa. Break from those AT&T chains and enjoy the freedom of owning your device completely in and out.
Here ya go Here ya go take your choice
http://swappa.com/buy/samsung-galaxy-note-4-tmobile

tbong777 said:
Apparently you didn't...Don't feel bad......There are still may available on Swappa. Break from those AT&T chains and enjoy the freedom of owning your device completely in and out.
Here ya go Here ya go take your choice
http://swappa.com/buy/samsung-galaxy-note-4-tmobile
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I don't want or need a t-mobile device to use with my AT&T coverage, if I did I'd get t-mobile coverage and drop my AT&T plan, nor am I willing to spend $600-700 on a PHONE. I'm with the majority if people here, we have the coverage we have for whatever reasons, and I'm not going to switch or buy a PHONE outright for root. It's normal to pay nothing down for a phone or $200-300, not buy models from random strangers for $600 dollars. I'm not on here talking about root or begging for it, demanding it, and I'm sure as heck not on here just popping through each thread with negativity and unwanted condescending remarks. Maybe go to the T-mobile forums and put people and ideas down for fun over there?

brittoking said:
I don't want or need a t-mobile device to use with my AT&T coverage, if I did I'd get t-mobile coverage and drop my AT&T plan, nor am I willing to spend $600-700 on a PHONE. I'm with the majority if people here, we have the coverage we have for whatever reasons, and I'm not going to switch or buy a PHONE outright for root. It's normal to pay nothing down for a phone or $200-300, not buy models from random strangers for $600 dollars. I'm not on here talking about root or begging for it, demanding it, and I'm sure as heck not on here just popping through each thread with negativity and unwanted condescending remarks. Maybe go to the T-mobile forums and put people and ideas down for fun over there?
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Then what are you doing in a ROM Thread? Wishful thinking? No reason to put T mobile users down They have unlocked boot loader phones on a carrier they love...WIN WIN>
Just educating you. First of all there will be NO root for the ATT Note 4. Deal with it. T mobile coverage is not as good as ATT coverage here, Have to buy an open phone to gain full benefit of the device.
The days of subsidized phones are ALREADY gone, You are paying up to $300 a year in HIGHER rates for subsidized phones, than those purchased. The NEXT program is a joke. $825 plus tax for a locked down Phone? Not a chance...
In fact the way things are set up its more expensive to buy a subsidized phone, You will pay $900+ for a $700 phone. They will get it now or later, Either way you will be paying all the money for a device and more in service fees if you buy subsidized......... That device at those prices may as well be unlocked and allow you to do with it what you want.
Unless you are into fraud. Rooting a phone eliminates warranty. Once you root a device you are on your own. Random strangers have never sold me or anyone i know a bad device. Checks and balances are in place to keep that from happening whether PayPal or Swappa who insists they run the ESN to make sure it's clear.
There is zero risk in buying used devices. Been doing it for years with my phones, No contracts. Lowest rates and less expensive phones.

tbong777 said:
Then what are you doing in a ROM Thread? Wishful thinking? No reason to put T mobile users down They have unlocked boot loader phones on a carrier they love...WIN WIN>
Just educating you. First of all there will be NO root for the ATT Note 4. Deal with it. T mobile coverage is not as good as ATT coverage here, Have to buy an open phone to gain full benefit of the device.
The days of subsidized phones are ALREADY gone, You are paying up to $300 a year in HIGHER rates for subsidized phones, than those purchased. The NEXT program is a joke. $825 plus tax for a locked down Phone? Not a chance...
In fact the way things are set up its more expensive to buy a subsidized phone, You will pay $900+ for a $700 phone. They will get it now or later, Either way you will be paying all the money for a device and more in service fees if you buy subsidized......... That device at those prices may as well be unlocked and allow you to do with it what you want.
Unless you are into fraud. Rooting a phone eliminates warranty. Once you root a device you are on your own. Random strangers have never sold me or anyone i know a bad device. Checks and balances are in place to keep that from happening whether PayPal or Swappa who insists they run the ESN to make sure it's clear.
There is zero risk in buying used devices. Been doing it for years with my phones, No contracts. Lowest rates and less expensive phones.
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Another argument over nothing ?
You're happy with your T-mobile phone, period
Don't kill other people's hopes for root just because you *think* there's not gonna be root. If you're right about it, then great, if not, then you're being negative for nothing

JChespirito24 said:
Another argument over nothing ��
You're happy with your T-mobile phone, period
Don't kill other people's hopes for root just because you *think* there's not gonna be root. If you're right about it, then great, if not, then you're being negative for nothing
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I KNOW there won't be root. Been doing this for 5 years. Know developers. They have too many WORKING UNLOCKED devices to spend their time on. You won't see root for the ATT phone. Just trying to educate.
Petitions and a few thousand of "pledges" (rarely fully collected) are not going to make a difference. If I thought there would be root I would have bought the ATT Variant and waited. Look at the Note 4 development threads. How many does ATT have? 1? 2? Note 4 has been on the street
two months and there is ONE thread in the development section. There's your sign.
Hey I would love to see a developer prove me wrong but they are too busy working on phones and collecting donations from people who have devices that can handle their work. Screw AT&T

tbong777 said:
I KNOW there won't be root. Been doing this for 5 years. Know developers. They have too many WORKING UNLOCKED devices to spend their time on. You won't see root for the ATT phone. Just trying to educate.
Petitions and a few thousand of "pledges" (rarely fully collected) are not going to make a difference. If I thought there would be root I would have bought the ATT Variant and waited. Look at the Note 4 development threads. How many does ATT have? 1? 2? Note 4 has been on the street
two months and there is ONE thread in the development section. There's your sign.
Hey I would love to see a developer prove me wrong but they are too busy working on phones and collecting donations from people who have devices that can handle their work. Screw AT&T
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And people said the same thing about the att GS5.

tbong777 said:
I KNOW there won't be root. Been doing this for 5 years. Know developers. They have too many WORKING UNLOCKED devices to spend their time on. You won't see root for the ATT phone. Just trying to educate.
Petitions and a few thousand of "pledges" (rarely fully collected) are not going to make a difference. If I thought there would be root I would have bought the ATT Variant and waited. Look at the Note 4 development threads. How many does ATT have? 1? 2? Note 4 has been on the street
two months and there is ONE thread in the development section. There's your sign.
Hey I would love to see a developer prove me wrong but they are too busy working on phones and collecting donations from people who have devices that can handle their work. Screw AT&T
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5 years of preaching and caps?
I doubt there's going to be root for this device either, many people don't. You don't see any of them bashing on others who hope for root. Tell people things they don't wanna hear and they'll ignore you, do it constantly and they'll hate you.
If you're in here to put people down, then why be here?
Keep the thread clean

JChespirito24 said:
5 years of preaching and caps?
I doubt there's going to be root for this device either, many people don't. You don't see any of them bashing on others who hope for root. Tell people things they don't wanna hear and they'll ignore you, do it constantly and they'll hate you.
If you're in here to put people down, then why be here?
Keep the thread clean
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I don't care who "ignores me" LOL But when some one starts a thread title "No Roms Yet? when the development section has O N E thread...I have to laugh first then educate. Look at the T Mobile Development threads. There is his answer....and his ROMS
Keeping the thread clean means educating the OP. No ROMS yet? Ummm No....and the device has been on the street two months and not even a hint of a custom recovery or root. Sometimes it does not pay to be an early adopter. Know what yee are buying and the capabilities for $800.....Thats a pretty good idea

So, what part of educating involves laughter? You've been through nearly every thread involving root in this forum spewing about how great it is that YOU got an unlcoekd TMO N4. Nothing about what you have done or said has contributed in any manner. It's just you acting tough and thrilled behind a keyboard. Nothing more.
At the end of the day, you got what made you happy. Stop being someone with no worth to bring and just enjoy your device. Someone presents a question, just answer it straight out. No need to mock or toss your "superiority" into anyone's face. Whether root happens or not, the device will work as is.
No one is telling you how to spend your money, so why go around telling people how to spend theirs. Like I said, enjoy what you have. Let others do the same. You got a TMO N4, go to the TMO thread and be an ass there.

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and THAT is why I decided to buy a SM-910T. I just don't see root coming for the AT&T phone anytime soon.
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lyrical1278 said:
So, what part of educating involves laughter? You've been through nearly every thread involving root in this forum spewing about how great it is that YOU got an unlcoekd TMO N4. Nothing about what you have done or said has contributed in any manner. It's just you acting tough and thrilled behind a keyboard. Nothing more.
At the end of the day, you got what made you happy. Stop being someone with no worth to bring and just enjoy your device. Someone presents a question, just answer it straight out. No need to mock or toss your "superiority" into anyone's face. Whether root happens or not, the device will work as is.
No one is telling you how to spend your money, so why go around telling people how to spend theirs. Like I said, enjoy what you have. Let others do the same. You got a TMO N4, go to the TMO thread and be an ass there.
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No Roms yet? Yeah Thats funny considering the phone has been out over two months and the development section has ONE thread. I have never seen a device out this long without any development action,. I know some developers who are just saying no to ATT. Not worth it
If one person reads my rants and saves $800 buying a locked up device and instead buys the T Mobile version I will feel vindicated. IF they don;t want root and want to keep their warranty intact they have the right device.

"Never post in a demanding, argumentative, disrespectful or self-righteous manner."
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Demanding: Telling others how to spend their money
Argumentative: Arguing with those whom don't have the same opinion
Disrespectful: Laughing at others whom want progress with the AT&T thred
Self-righteous Manner: Repeatedly telling others that you bought a T-mobile Note 4 and claiming that it's the best thing ever

[BOUNTY] Root for LG X Family

I am interested in buying LG X Screen (K500Y). Apperantly there is no root for it and also for other phones in this family. And there won't be any if someone won't have motivation to look for it. So here is the thread and the first donation. From me, 15$.
So if you own a phone from this family and want root, this is your shot. Don't ever give any number here if you are not gonna pay. I don't want to be responsible for bringing such flagrant acts. I can't run after people asking what they've promised.
But of course, I don't think this thread will even get replies yet alone amount to something. But you have to try in life even though the result is obvious.

I'll plop $50 down for the Boost Mobile X Power LS755

This phone is great... very much worth it!

goitalone said:
This phone is great... very much worth it!
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Indeed. That's why I am interested in it. But seems no else is. I won't be buying it if I can't root it... Shame. Such a beautiful mid-range phone.

It's ONLY $59 bucks on eBay and FREE SHIPPING.. well worth it with its 1.8 gigahertz OCTA Core processor 2 gig ram mediatek chipset the Boost mobile version which scores twice as much as the GSM Cricket model in benchmarks.
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/131981455410
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[/COLOR]It's well worth it even without Root I mean it's a quick little phone man and the battery lasts a long long time so well worth it even without root

Actually here says the app can root LG X Screen. Can anyone verify that?
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/models-android-6-0-kingroot-supports-t3390249

Doesn't work...tried over and over

Deal is back on eBay for $59 free ship:
Look at this on eBay http://www.ebay.com/itm/131981455410

goitalone said:
Doesn't work...tried over and over
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Your phone is different. I need to know basic version. Anyone who has the basic version of these phones have tried this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/models-android-6-0-kingroot-supports-t3390249

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Your phone is different. I need to know basic version. Anyone who has the basic version of these phones have tried this:
https://forum.xda-developers.com/android/general/models-android-6-0-kingroot-supports-t3390249
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I have tried it on several phone models and it simply doesn't work

Wow, what???
http://www.androidauthority.com/lg-rumored-h-new-x-k-stylus-phones-ces-2017-735806/
........ the report adds that LG will wait until the Mobile World Congress trade show in late February to officially reveal the X power 2 phone. It is supposed to have a 5.5-inch display, a 13MP rear camera, a 5MP wide-angle front camera and a 4500MAH BATTERY!

Pondera said:
I am interested in buying LG X Screen (K500Y). Apperantly there is no root for it and also for other phones in this family. And there won't be any if someone won't have motivation to look for it. So here is the thread and the first donation. From me, 15$.
So if you own a phone from this family and want root, this is your shot. Don't ever give any number here if you are not gonna pay. I don't want to be responsible for bringing such flagrant acts. I can't run after people asking what they've promised.
But of course, I don't think this thread will even get replies yet alone amount to something. But you have to try in life even though the result is obvious.
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If you want a root for it I could do it if I had the device or a way to emulate stock ROM on PC. Or if you wanna try to find a similarity list? I have extensive experience with these devices.
LG gpad v410, Gpad vk810, LG vs840 (Lucid), LG vs980 (G2) (Verizon)
LG exceed and all the like devices.
Also rooted an LG Lucky on Straight Talk :silly:
I could more than likely manage it haha.
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Like put whatever $$$$$ you want towards a device guys between me and my bro upstate we would ABSOLUTELY manage it at some point, there is no way its totally impossible, even ZTE bricks from WalMart can catch the flu haha.

LilAnt530 said:
If you want a root for it I could do it if I had the device or a way to emulate stock ROM on PC. Or if you wanna try to find a similarity list? I have extensive experience with these devices.
LG gpad v410, Gpad vk810, LG vs840 (Lucid), LG vs980 (G2) (Verizon)
LG exceed and all the like devices.
Also rooted an LG Lucky on Straight Talk :silly:
I could more than likely manage it haha.
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Like put whatever $$$$$ you want towards a device guys between me and my bro upstate we would ABSOLUTELY manage it at some point, there is no way its totally impossible, even ZTE bricks from WalMart can catch the flu haha.
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I don't have the device. I want to buy it that's why I started this thread. But like the phone itself its unpopular. Shame, such a nice phone. Sorry I couldn't help supplying you anything.

Might wanna wait and get X Power 2 supposedly coming out within next couple months which will come with a bit higher specs and 4500MAH battery
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If not, still great phone without root and that is a very rare thing for me to say... I picked up the GSM version and it's just as nice and smooth even though antutu Benchmark is half of the Boost mobile versions score of around 23000 GSM Cricket model versus 43,000 Boost mobile version

I understand the whole (fine without root) thing that is exactly how I feel about most HTC devices, however I would go insane just because I know how LG's work the easiest lol, am currently on an s6 edge+ and I feel like im in another country, touchwiz sucks!

is the bootloader can be unlocked , fastboot available ?

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is the bootloader can be unlocked , fastboot available ?
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I would assume they replaced the Fastboot.img with a download mode -.-. & anything over Lollipop on LG is bootloader strapped down hard, I remember my Gpad v410, having to restore to KK just to root with KingRoot, then Loki patch twrp install, huge loop that was totally unnecessary
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LilAnt530 said:
I would assume they replaced the Fastboot.img with a download mode -.-. & anything over Lollipop on LG is bootloader strapped down hard, I remember my Gpad v410, having to restore to KK just to root with KingRoot, then Loki patch twrp install, huge loop that was totally unnecessary
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not all i just rooted the lg aristo running nougat after only 2 weeks of the release

messi2050 said:
not all i just rooted the lg aristo running nougat after only 2 weeks of the release
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How?
Have you tried to root the X Power?

goitalone said:
How?
Have you tried to root the X Power?
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You can call me mr.root xD , i rooted lg stylo 2 plus/aristo and Samsung j700p/t/t1 you can contact me at hangouts and i will try to help.

Clarification on Verizon 7.1.2

First of all apologies if this is in the wrong area. Please move and or let me know.
I've read through multiple threads and posts and I want to make sure I'm understanding things.
I have a pixel XL on Verizon at 7.1.2 with all the updates etc already applied (because I was stupid and didn't read before I did these things).
Based on what I read depixel8 it seems depixel8 was an option up until 7.1 andif you didn't get unlocked then then you are sol at this time. Is that right?
Am I correct that without an unlocked bootloader there is no TWRP no root and no custom ROMs? Some posts I read seem to say you can do these things with a locked bootloader. When I look at guides they all seem to say first unlock bootloader if you do that you can't go to step 2.
In short can those of us on Verizon 7.1.2 devices with a locked bootloader get TWRP root and custom ROMs?
I'm willing to try things and don't expect handouts. I just need a little guidance on where to start or someone to say yup you're sol.

No
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If you can't​ slide the OEM Unlock button in dev options you are done. You cannot root or flash TWRP or anything else. No, I do not believe there will be a method to unlock it in the future.

Thank you both for the answers. Confirmed what I thought but didn't want to believe.

You may be able to put a sim from another provider and​ see if it lets you slide the toggle
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tttuning said:
You may be able to put a sim from another provider and​ see if it lets you slide the toggle
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Nope.

This is a longshot as I have been out of the ROM game for a while... but would "upgrading" to the beta of Android O (soon to be 8.0) and then flashing a stock image back (un-enrolling) would that be able to drop the phone down to 7.1.0?
As I said...I may just be talking out my ass here.....

cirenj said:
This is a longshot as I have been out of the ROM game for a while... but would "upgrading" to the beta of Android O (soon to be 8.0) and then flashing a stock image back (un-enrolling) would that be able to drop the phone down to 7.1.0?
As I said...I may just be talking out my ass here.....
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No. It will bring you back to the latest security release.

toknitup420 said:
No. It will bring you back to the latest security release.
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Can confirm this since the rollout OTA reverted me back to 7.1.2 with June's security.

I'm on 8.0 now, and OEM Unlock is still greyed out, even when I try to turn on with the sim card removed, and my "Android Security Patch Level" is May 05, 2017.... so still beyond what any of the bootloader unlocking methods have worked on....

cirenj said:
I'm on 8.0 now, and OEM Unlock is still greyed out, even when I try to turn on with the sim card removed, and my "Android Security Patch Level" is May 05, 2017.... so still beyond what any of the bootloader unlocking methods have worked on....
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You can sell the phone and then buy a Google version. That's the way to unlock your bootloader, the only way. And please don't let others tell you to say something is wrong with the device and return it if there is really nothing wrong. It's fraud and not well received on these forums. Your choices are to either sell it or live with it.

I am returning my Verizon phone as I just bought one right from Google... (anyone know where they ship the phones from?) Is there a special sequence in booting up for the first time to make sure the bootloader can be unlocked and VZW doesn't mess with it?

cirenj said:
I am returning my Verizon phone as I just bought one right from Google... (anyone know where they ship the phones from?) Is there a special sequence in booting up for the first time to make sure the bootloader can be unlocked and VZW doesn't mess with it?
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If you buy it from Google there are no issues. You can do whatever you want, put in any sim, flash any image.
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Damn...My Google Pixel was shipped today...but FedEx wont deliver it until Monday.... GRRR....

Yup sell or live with it. We can only blame ourselves for not researching before we bought from Verizon.
Me I'm gonna live with it and sell when pixel 2 comes out most likely.
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You can sell the phone and then buy a Google version. That's the way to unlock your bootloader, the only way. And please don't let others tell you to say something is wrong with the device and return it if there is really nothing wrong. It's fraud and not well received on these forums. Your choices are to either sell it or live with it.
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philo_ said:
Yup sell or live with it. We can only blame ourselves for not researching before we bought from Verizon.
Me I'm gonna live with it and sell when pixel 2 comes out most likely.
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I wound up here in this thread after seeing promos pop up recently for discounts Verizon is offering on the Pixel and XL on the order of $269, as well as giving you a 100% rebate on a new Google Home as part of the package. I don't see a comparable promotion when buying directly from Google. I'm less than 2 years into our current phones, but wife and daughter are having problems with theirs, so I've been considering early replacements.
So - getting a 128GB XL via Verizon appears $269 cheaper than via Google, and I'd get a $129 rebate (6 weeks out?) if I purchase a new Google Home (already have 3 -- that's enough, but I guess I could sell the new one). Verizon's discount comes in the form of a monthly rebate, with the full credit being applied over 24 months. Not terrible, I guess, if you plan to stay with Verizon (I'm going to: I consult, and travel all over the country, and need the coverage), but annoying.
Then there's the whole issue of the locked bootloader. Sorry in advance for not being up to date on this and perhaps asking an obvious question: I know the boatloader issue would prevent rooting, and I imagine custom ROMs -- but do Verizon-branded Pixel's get all the same Android updates directly from Google as Pixels do that are unlocked, purchased directly from Google?
(please don't sneer when you see that I'm running a Droid Turbo 2! I had to replace 4 phones a year and a half ago, and the available promotions back then made it possible to get them each for $300 - a deal I couldn't afford to pass up at the time! )
Jon

Basically it comes down to this:
Verizon can screw you anyway they want. Nothing you can do. Deceptive advertising, No real service through 95% of the areas they say is great, locked bootloader on the "Google Phone" that everyone gets to have pure Android and not F%$ed with.
But, you try and do anything to it, OMG... might as well be in jail for killing someone.
When will we stop the power of these media companies?
Sorry, had to reply, I'm just so fed up with the adds, the false deals, the F%*king lies....
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philo_ said:
Yup sell or live with it. We can only blame ourselves for not researching before we bought from Verizon.
Me I'm gonna live with it and sell when pixel 2 comes out most likely.
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So it's our fault they ripped us off and decided "Their Rules" apply?
No, not gonna buy it. Not gonna stand for it.
This is the attitude that got us here.
F*%$ YOU Verizon.
Stop buying their products?
Yeah, I know you can say nothing we can do, and there really is not much, but every bit counts.

scrufy said:
Basically it comes down to this:
Verizon can screw you anyway they want. Nothing you can do. Deceptive advertising, No real service through 95% of the areas they say is great, locked bootloader on the "Google Phone" that everyone gets to have pure Android and not F%$ed with.
But, you try and do anything to it, OMG... might as well be in jail for killing someone.
When will we stop the power of these media companies?
Sorry, had to reply, I'm just so fed up with the adds, the false deals, the F%*king lies....
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So it's our fault they ripped us off and decided "Their Rules" apply?
No, not gonna buy it. Not gonna stand for it.
This is the attitude that got us here.
F*%$ YOU Verizon.
Stop buying their products?
Yeah, I know you can say nothing we can do, and there really is not much, but every bit counts.
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They didn't rip you off. You got the device you wanted. And you knowingly bought it from Verizon whom is known to lock down devices. They never sold it with the promises that you could unlock the bootloader and flash whatever you want. Don't get me wrong I hate vzw as much as the next guy. But they didn't use false advertising to sell this device. And if you want pure Android that's untouched then you should be buying directly from Google. Not from VERIZON.

To add to this, I have pretty much exhausted all methods, and it appears that if the phone came from Verizon, without a hack, there is no possible way to OEM Unlock! Here are the facts that I have;
1. I'm on firmware 7.1.2 - NJH47F - which is the non-Verizon firmware from the stock image download page
2. I have tried with both AT&T and T-Mobile SIM's
3. I chatted with Google Support, there is nothing they can do
4. I chatted with Verizon Tech support, there is nothing they can do (supposedly)
If it comes from Verizon, and you are past 7.1 then you cannot use dePixel8...
I can't believe there is no one willing to find even a temp Root exploit and find a way to mod the bootloader.img, even with a substantial bounty out there! I'd add $50 to it at this point!