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[Q] HTC Desire won't start!

Hi! I'm new to this forum so I hope there will be some understanding for the urgency.
Here's the deal; I dropped my HTC Desire in the toilet, clumsy me. I managed to grab it within a few seconds and so I removed all parts and let them dry over a towel. Stupidly enough, I tried to reboot the phone after some time, not thinking that electricity and water does not mix too well. I dried the cell phone with a vacuum cleaner for about 5 minutes and placed it in a bowl of rice. Just recently, I tried to start the phone with the charger plugged in but it won't work this time either. The phone keeps vibrating and vibrating until I remove the battery - what should I do?
Any help is appreciated!

Difeddy said:
Hi! I'm new to this forum so I hope there will be some understanding for the urgency.
Here's the deal; I dropped my HTC Desire in the toilet, clumsy me. I managed to grab it within a few seconds and so I removed all parts and let them dry over a towel. Stupidly enough, I tried to reboot the phone after some time, not thinking that electricity and water does not mix too well. I dried the cell phone with a vacuum cleaner for about 5 minutes and placed it in a bowl of rice. Just recently, I tried to start the phone with the charger plugged in but it won't work this time either. The phone keeps vibrating and vibrating until I remove the battery - what should I do?
Any help is appreciated!
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the fact its vibrating must be a good sign, atleast it means you didnt fry the whole thing when u tried to switch it on wet, the best i can recomend is put it back in a air tight container filled with rice, make sure the desire is totaly submerged in the rice and leave it for 24 hrs+ , if it wont switch on after that, then its a repair job

AndroHero said:
the fact its vibrating must be a good sign, atleast it means you didnt fry the whole thing when u tried to switch it on wet, the best i can recomend is put it back in a air tight container filled with rice, make sure the desire is totaly submerged in the rice and leave it for 24 hrs+ , if it wont switch on after that, then its a repair job
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Have to agree; at least it's giving some sort of sign! Problem is that it won't stop vibrating and the screen remains black - no lights, etc. I suppose I'll have to give it a try and see what follows. My parents wouldn't be too happy with me explaining the circumstances... Lesson learned.
Thanks for your help!

AndroHero said:
the fact its vibrating must be a good sign, atleast it means you didnt fry the whole thing when u tried to switch it on wet, the best i can recomend is put it back in a air tight container filled with rice, make sure the desire is totaly submerged in the rice and leave it for 24 hrs+ , if it wont switch on after that, then its a repair job
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and if it is a repair job, have fun
http://tjworld.net/blog/htc-desire-tear-down
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=720717&highlight=teardown
I used both guides to fix my broken AMOLED.. good luck!
hope this helps! and hope your Desire isnt broken!

!PANDA said:
and if it is a repair job, have fun
I used both guides to fix my broken AMOLED.. good luck!
hope this helps! and hope your Desire isnt broken!
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Thanks for the reply! Are you quite sure if it's worth the risk, though?
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F*ck. I placed the cell phone in a box of rice and let it stay for about 20 hours, but it won't start at all now after a few attempts. No vibration at all. I'm starting to think that I'm screwed.

YES!!!
It booted up now! The power button doesn't appear to work properly, but it will start!

Difeddy said:
YES!!!
It booted up now! The power button doesn't appear to work properly, but it will start!
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well thats a start, give it a few more days in a bowl of rice and if that wont help (to make sure everything work!) hopefully it will! but yu know.. if you have no insurance and have no choice, get a compressed air spray and have fun

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well thats a start, give it a few more days in a bowl of rice and if that wont help (to make sure everything work!) hopefully it will! but yu know.. if you have no insurance and have no choice, get a compressed air spray and have fun
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The power button isn't working now either. Will check if the warranty covers this, I'm just hoping that there will be no indications of water damage.

Difeddy said:
The power button isn't working now either. Will check if the warranty covers this, I'm just hoping that there will be no indications of water damage.
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There are usually little white stickers inside the phone which turn red if they get wet, so my guess is you've got little hope trying to get a warranty repair.
Regards,
Dave

foxmeister said:
There are usually little white stickers inside the phone which turn red if they get wet, so my guess is you've got little hope trying to get a warranty repair.
Regards,
Dave
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Well, there is a sticker near the battery slot on the phone and another one on the battery itself. Both of them are white, luckily enough. We'll see what the guy says, thanks for the help though!

Hello!
Got any luck with a service with power button?
I have the same issue. Phone fell into water.. after few days phone works fine, except power button.
HTC Service refuses to make a guarantee repairment (suprisingly - liquid damage).
I think, in my case power button is short-circuited: when inserting the battery, phone is turning on and starting up w/o any problems (normally, Desire doesn't do that, I've tested friend's phone).
Unfortunately, get the root and remap sleep button to optical trackball isn't an option for me...
Someone advised me to disassemble the phone, and try to clean the power button with an alcohol. But I didn't tried this yet...

AE777 said:
Hello!
Got any luck with a service with power button?
I have the same issue. Phone fell into water.. after few days phone works fine, except power button.
HTC Service refuses to make a guarantee repairment (suprisingly - liquid damage).
I think, in my case power button is short-circuited: when inserting the battery, phone is turning on and starting up w/o any problems (normally, Desire doesn't do that, I've tested friend's phone).
Unfortunately, get the root and remap sleep button to optical trackball isn't an option for me...
Someone advised me to disassemble the phone, and try to clean the power button with an alcohol. But I didn't tried this yet...
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I'm a bit late, I suppose.
We sent the phone for a repair job but it was "quickly" sent back to me. Good of them to say this a month later, when I was eagerly waiting for them to send it back, whole and functional. Anyhow, I got it back and fortunately; it worked. There were no issues, what-so-ever, with the goddamn power button.
But, ironically enough, I managed to trip into a lake yesterday. What goes around comes around. At least I wasn't browsing for some porn this time. Jokes aside, the power button doesn't seem to be working anymore. Sometimes it'll respond when I boot the phone up, but now it doesn't seem to do this anymore.

Disconnect motor
Disassemble the phone and disconnect contact on vibration motor? Or remove motor and reassemble phone. Worth a try to get a functioning phone minus vibration option. :fingers-crossed:

Hey can know how much the company charge for d repair ????

Water damaged software/ROM

My sister dropped her HTC One X in the toilet for a couple of seconds. After a while it restarted itself, vibrating and showed her the HTC logo, then restarted again and kept on doing so until the battery was drained.
I cracked it open and dried it for two days but the bootloop is still present. I think the hardware is intact but maybe the software got broken somehow.
However it is possible to get into hboot but it soon restarts again.
I thought that maybe i could flash a RUU exe but all the RUU's i can find has radio 1.x but her radio is 2.x. How come?
Please, does anyone have any suggestions or personal experience?
Thanks!

I don't see how the software could get damaged by that. Does she have a nandroid backup?
Sent from my HTC One X

no, her phone is not rooted, it's completely stock.
It is possible to flash a RUU exe even though it's S-ON and everything, right?

Yes it's possible to flash an RUU (or you could just wipe data from recovery), but it will 99.99% be a hardware fault.

i see..
maybe we should send it for repair then.. We're thinking about claiming the guarantee, but i heard about a water damage indicator sticker as in this picture. It seems we dont have that sticker in the sim slot. It's nothing there, just the black wrapper thing. Any ideas about that?

Yup, there's something in the device that detects if the device is waterdamaged. You could always try to get it on the guarantee, but chances are small.
Sent from my HTC One X

There's more to water damage checking than a bit of colour changing paper. When water dries it leaves residue and corrosion on parts will start.

So, is it completely crazy to think that the software got burned due to water on the memory hardware?
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onesterud said:
So, is it completely crazy to think that the software got burned due to water on the memory hardware?
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It's not crazy, but it is wishful thinking. A water damaged phone is usually beyond economical repair, if you send it to HTC, they'll likely charge you to send it back dead without looking at it.

Actually they don't charge for water damage (in the UK), and just send it straight back.

Well i live in sweden and we've got 1 year warranty from the reseller and 2-3 years from the manufacturer (HTC). We will try the reseller first, maybe they are a bit dumber than HTC.
The phone will be in a bag of rice for a couple of days to see if we can squeeze some more liquid out of it.
Thanks for the answers

Well, I live in Sweden also and are locked to 3. If I remember correctly, I have 2 years of warranty on my HOX at 3.
Sent from my HTC One X

Warranty usually counts for nothing when water damage is involved.
If your device is restarting itself even in the bootloader then you definitely have hardware problems
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Help with my xperia

well, i' have installed roms for a while and everything is ok, but in last days my phone sometimes stop responding, the screen doesn't turn on pushing the power button, but the funny is that apparently the phone still working, how do I know? if i have patience after a moment maybe 10 mins or in other cases is delayed 1 day the screen shows up in the last part where it was.
Now when I don't have patience and i pull off the battery and try to turn on the phone, the phone apparently turn on, vibrate, and then show the blue light and thats all , the phone still has keep in the black screen and I have to pull off the battery and repeat the process until the phone wants turn on
please help me this problem is really stressful
and a extra information..
2 or 3 months ago my phone fell down in a pool
maybe the problem is the battery? any help is valuable for me

So I can tell you 90% your Xperia Play suffers from a disease called "the flex cable damaged" disease. Your phone will have to undergo a surgery which will replace the damaged flex cable with a new one. Flex cable is the cable which connects the motherboard to the screen. Common issue for Xperia Play. Revert to stock, and I mean completely stock, then send to Sony Centre and replace for free if you still have warranty.

woww that was fast, unfortunately I have no warranty, my cousin throw me at the pool so i think he can pay me the flex cable... do you know how much is it?
by the way........rhank you sooooooo much

Er I am not sure about the price cause I got mine fixed under warranty. But I think it's not really expensive

So a tip for us is that open the slider slowly to avoid damage to the flex cable right?
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sufy1000 said:
So a tip for us is that open the slider slowly to avoid damage to the flex cable right?
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Yep. Some people always push up hard (I am one of them ) then my flex cable is damaged.

I don't think it has anything to do with how hard you're using the device.
It has to do with how it was installed from the factory.
sometimes the cable can get bunched up underneath the screen and get a crimp in it.
My other spare screen slider cord has been crimped and i don't know how much longer it will last
but my other one is totally fine.

Guys I had problems too with my XP. One day the screen became all glitchy than i changed my flex cable and now the Device goes on when I push the on/off button the device thrills but no screen.
Any solution for this all ready flashed stock .TFT file.

[Q] htc one x water damage help

okay so i was playing football and suddenly it started to rain heavily (very) but i managed to get into shade (small) which was also dripping with water so the phone was not 100% safe there either. anyways i wrapped the phone with my hands and put the phone in plastic bag. when i got home and removed the back cover of the phone it was filled with water(somewhat) . anwyays, i put the phone in a bag of rice after that for past 24 hours. should i turn it on now?
should i try to dissamble the phone to dry it. ?
my touchscreen is a bit off the case. .. its not fixed. there are some opening on sides. so as long as mother board is dry? can i still turn on the phone (just to see if the phones working)

you better take it to a service ,that's my advice

From my experience you should not charge it, turn it on try to dry it with hairdryer or something of that kind, put it in uncooked rice for a few hours and pray...
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alright so ill now keep it in rice for 2 days. should i try to turn on then? or is there still some risk?

2 days? Wow mate that's alot of time haha, I think you can
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it seems that my brother tried to turn on the phone before i put it in rice. i went to repair the phone the phone only to hear that the motherboard is shot-ed . he said he "could" make it work. so is there any possible way he could repair it . can we repair the short circuited motherboard?

I doubt motherboard can be repaired most of the time they simply change it, Even if they repair it it would cost you too much, better sell it off(if possible) n buy another one
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alrighty, i gave it to a local phone repairer and he apparently repaired the mobo. he said he changed power ic mic and network related thing and now the phone is working just fine. it costed me like 1800 rs (30 $) . i still havent paid him (hes a known person and i said ill pay him tomorrow) .
but theres something bugging me, what if the phone's motherboard wasnt damaged at all in the first place? i mean, after the rain incidient i didnt try to switch on the phone (98% sure... maybe my bro tried,...dunno. but anyways, the phones battery was dead). i immediately kept in rice for like 1 and half days. and even when giving him the phone i didnt try to turn on the phone (foolish of me) . so the question is, can he really replace (repair) those parts i mentioned? can the motherboard be really repaired after being shotted by water? or am i just being fooled ?

dragonflame8712 said:
alrighty, i gave it to a local phone repairer and he apparently repaired the mobo. he said he changed power ic mic and network related thing and now the phone is working just fine. it costed me like 1800 rs (30 $) . i still havent paid him (hes a known person and i said ill pay him tomorrow) .
but theres something bugging me, what if the phone's motherboard wasnt damaged at all in the first place? i mean, after the rain incidient i didnt try to switch on the phone (98% sure... maybe my bro tried,...dunno. but anyways, the phones battery was dead). i immediately kept in rice for like 1 and half days. and even when giving him the phone i didnt try to turn on the phone (foolish of me) . so the question is, can he really replace (repair) those parts i mentioned? can the motherboard be really repaired after being shotted by water? or am i just being fooled ?
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Well my opinion : repairing a mobo.....he could have asked hell of a lot more then 30,- ! Its not that much to fall over about. If he replaced it or not.

I fell over in a muddy puddle whilst camping, and my wife checked my shorts pockets before washing them under a field tap. Sadly she checked the same pocket twice, so didn't find my brand new One X
After letting the water drip out (!) I took the mini sim out, then left in it the warm, in rice, and with a couple of gel moisture absorber packets. I'd heard not to use a hairdryer as this might force water deeper in. After 4 days it turned on when I tried, but very black screen. This cleared almost completely over a few weeks, months to almost go, and now a year later down to a small brown streak
So I think that if you are sure it's completely dried out, it is ok to turn on, not if it might still be wet

Help with salt water damage!!

I'm on a cruise right now, my phone just fell into the pool and it stop working, then I realized the pool is fill with salt water. Now the phone is not working. I try to blowdry it and put it in a bag of rice. Is been 10 hours the phone is only flashing red led and is not starting up at all. This phone have no warranty because I import it from Europe as I don't think Sony USA will fix it.
Please help! What can I do right now? I'm still on the cruise right now and 2 more days till I get home

Just contact Sony and ask if they will try to repair under warranty. Not to make you scared, but I think they will not fix it onder warranty because of the salt water. But this is the only thing you can try.
The red flashing LED means that the phone is still intact, you can try to plug the phone into your pc when you're at home.

Killastyle said:
Just contact Sony and ask if they will try to repair under warranty. Not to make you scared, but I think they will not fix it onder warranty because of the salt water. But this is the only thing you can try.
The red flashing LED means that the phone is still intact, you can try to plug the phone into your pc when you're at home.
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But will Sony USA fix a phone not from their region? Or should I lie about the water damage is from regular pool??

3vilhomer said:
But will Sony USA fix a phone not from their region? Or should I lie about the water damage is from regular pool??
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I don't know. Sony is Sony.
Read this http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/09/10/sony-changes-stance-on-waterproof-phones-do-not-use-underwater/

Killastyle said:
I don't know. Sony is Sony.
Read this http://www.xperiablog.net/2015/09/10/sony-changes-stance-on-waterproof-phones-do-not-use-underwater/
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According to that, my phone have no hope...

hello if it flashes red is the battery that is completely unload the load test to see !!!

xrenoix said:
hello if it flashes red is the battery that is completely unload the load test to see !!!
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um i dont understand what you mean...

Killastyle said:
Just contact Sony and ask if they will try to repair under warranty. Not to make you scared, but I think they will not fix it onder warranty because of the salt water. But this is the only thing you can try.
The red flashing LED means that the phone is still intact, you can try to plug the phone into your pc when you're at home.
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i charged the phone for 1 hour using original QC charger, still flashing red.
i plug it into the PC and PC doesnt detect the phone at all, leaving it on charging only with flashing red
i hold vol up to plug in PC i get a solid blue LED but still no screen.
what else can i do now?

3vilhomer said:
i charged the phone for 1 hour using original QC charger, still flashing red.
i plug it into the PC and PC doesnt detect the phone at all, leaving it on charging only with flashing red
i hold vol up to plug in PC i get a solid blue LED but still no screen.
what else can i do now?
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I think it is a hardware problem. Guess you really have to contact Sony. Nothing you can do yourself. Just play stupid and say it fell in the water.
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Killastyle said:
I think it is a hardware problem. Guess you really have to contact Sony. Nothing you can do yourself. Just play stupid and say it fell in the water.
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should i let it sit in the rice for more days to suck more water out??

3vilhomer said:
should i let it sit in the rice for more days to suck more water out??
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you made mistake in the first place, you shouldn´t use blow dryer, you should put in the rice instead. now you probably made some damage in your phone with blow dryer.
also this is warning for everyone, if your phone gets broken after getting touch with water, don´t use blow dryer, put your phone in the rice and leave it at least for 24 hours.

spaha-bih said:
you made mistake in the first place, you shouldn´t use blow dryer, you should put in the rice instead. now you probably made some damage in your phone with blow dryer.
also this is warning for everyone, if your phone gets broken after getting touch with water, don´t use blow dryer, put your phone in the rice and leave it at least for 24 hours.
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o crap!! so basically my phone is doom...

spaha-bih said:
you made mistake in the first place, you shouldn´t use blow dryer, you should put in the rice instead. now you probably made some damage in your phone with blow dryer.
also this is warning for everyone, if your phone gets broken after getting touch with water, don´t use blow dryer, put your phone in the rice and leave it at least for 24 hours.
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https://www.gazelle.com/thehorn/2014/05/06/gazelles-guide-water-damage-truth-rice-galaxy-everything/

after a week the phone is still not charging, is not even able to connect to the PC, i try holding vol up and it doesnt give me any blue LED. everytime i press the power button it only flashes red LED. does this mean my phone is a brick now?

i had contacted SONY and they said i bought this phone from hong kong considering as grey market phone and wont fix it for me in USA. what can i do with the phone now? is there any other local shop can fix SONY phones? i ask a few and most of them dont know how to fix SONY phones, only Samsung and iPhone.