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"Moister Damage" On The Tilt 2??

So, today I was getting in the car right. My phone was battery back-less because I broke the old one and was waiting for a new. I live in south florida, and it's spring-time. The morning was a bit humid but I thought nothing of it. I turn my phone on and try to listen to some music right, but it wont let me open WM player. So I go and open something else and try to exit out. The X button won't work but the touchscreen does... weird. I then try to restart the phone. I keep holding the power button but no luck! So I'm worried and go to pull the battery out but to my surprise see a little condensation on the back of the phone. I pull the battery out and when it goes off I see CONDENSATION ON A RIGHT STRIP ON THE SCREEN. I go to turn it back on and try to do the same stuff. No buttons work, the X button and lock softkeys do not work, no hardware buttons do what their supposed to but they light up, turn the backlight on and everything!!!! I can't even do input with the touchscreen keyboard even though the screen works. Some programs I can and can't open. The phone was on for a MAXIMUM of 5-7 minutes, if that! I'm very surprised because It worked last night what leaves me to believe "Moister damage". Am I correct or is it a software problem. I cant hard reset because no way to type input. Haven't tried the sequence or mymobiler yet.... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......

froggylover1345 said:
...... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
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seems like sort of thing that could happen if moisture entered into your phone as that could cause electric shocks and considering the inner hardware and electrical components are very delicate even the slightest exposure to water vapors or moisture is a enough to damage them especially considering your scenario where you had no battery (and i am assuming you didn't have back cover either or you did?) but regardless as far as my understanding is this behavior seems in line with what you are thinking.

So no way to fix it.... I'm now phoneless. I'm so mad at myself right now....

I live in SWFL and unless you dropped the thing in a puddle I cant imagine the humidty down here doing that to your phone. Did you drop the thing in a puddle? The back cover is by no means air tight so I dont think NOT having a back cover did that too your phone.
Turn the phone on and plug it into your charger and see how long it stays on. There's a trick discussed here that talks about wrapping the phone up in paper towels and then putting it in a bowl of rice for 24 hours. That should suck any moisture you have in your phone out. Just do a search in the forum for "rice" or something.. I dont know.
Good Luck Though!!!

This is the thread you want to read http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=669472

i wouldn't think humidity would cause that much damage.
have you installed any recent app(s) that you might suspect causing these issues?

I thought the SAME THING. That's why I thought nothing of it! I just did a hard reset on it the night before so no apps installed. I did go on Android but, I do that about 1-2 times a week. Only reason I think it's moisture is because of the "white smoke" I saw thinking it was condensation. It wasn't really taken care of for a few hours because I was in disney. When I got to the hotel I put it in paper towels. The touchscreen works, and I can open apps on the menu but not use them. Wont let input through. No hardkeys work either. I'm gonna try a hard reset.

I WAS WRONG! I just did a hard reset, and it fixed the problem! Had to do it the button sequence way but it worked! The last thing I did on it, the night before was go on Android. Everything functioned well their and had no problems. What I'm guessing is I got a bad boot or something that stopped some drivers from working. I figured this out by trying to download mymobiler on the phone so I could do a hard reset and it wouldn't let me open it because it wasn't signed with a trusted certificate. Whew.... this is A HUGE RELIEF.

ight just wanna ask everyone since the topic is mainly on "Moisture damage" i have a habit of using my phone as a shower radio...no i dont put it in the shower, i leave it on the sink farthest away from the shower stall, my question is....will this do any damage to my phone because of the moisture and heat!? because this is the 2nd time ive done it and i dont wanna continue until i get a word of approval from you guys

XERO_Racer said:
ight just wanna ask everyone since the topic is mainly on "Moisture damage" i have a habit of using my phone as a shower radio...no i dont put it in the shower, i leave it on the sink farthest away from the shower stall, my question is....will this do any damage to my phone because of the moisture and heat!? because this is the 2nd time ive done it and i dont wanna continue until i get a word of approval from you guys
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I wouldnt think it would damnage the phone. Unless you actually submerge the unit or dump water on it it should be able to withstand the humidity. It's not like its in the moisture for hours and hours just a few minutes while you shower. Keep your fan running while you shower and that should help even more; although the fan should be on while you shower anyway AND for at least 5 minutes after you shower (little known fact) to protect the drywall and structure of the bathroom.

Humid place
Where I live some times in summer we have 98% of ambient humidity!
So it´s almost impossible to have anything dry here

froggylover1345 said:
So, today I was getting in the car right. My phone was battery back-less because I broke the old one and was waiting for a new. I live in south florida, and it's spring-time. The morning was a bit humid but I thought nothing of it. I turn my phone on and try to listen to some music right, but it wont let me open WM player. So I go and open something else and try to exit out. The X button won't work but the touchscreen does... weird. I then try to restart the phone. I keep holding the power button but no luck! So I'm worried and go to pull the battery out but to my surprise see a little condensation on the back of the phone. I pull the battery out and when it goes off I see CONDENSATION ON A RIGHT STRIP ON THE SCREEN. I go to turn it back on and try to do the same stuff. No buttons work, the X button and lock softkeys do not work, no hardware buttons do what their supposed to but they light up, turn the backlight on and everything!!!! I can't even do input with the touchscreen keyboard even though the screen works. Some programs I can and can't open. The phone was on for a MAXIMUM of 5-7 minutes, if that! I'm very surprised because It worked last night what leaves me to believe "Moister damage". Am I correct or is it a software problem. I cant hard reset because no way to type input. Haven't tried the sequence or mymobiler yet.... can someone tell me if the culprate to the death of my phone is moisture damage? I'm really angry now......
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Just let it do some thorough drying out. I had an old Kaiser i dropped completely in the toilet at work..lmfao You know i was pissed but..after some thorough drying and TLC, it just started wrking again like nothing ever happened. I let my father have the Tilt cuz i had already had a replacement one sent to me. Just told them i lost it. cuz u say water, they like warranty voided..lol Still wrks to this day, its his new toy till he get that new EVO 4g for sprint. he got the tilt to work with a prepaid sim card. im like dayumm..he showing something new..lol

demandarin said:
. I had an old Kaiser i dropped completely in the toilet at work..lmfao You know i was pissed
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No pun intended right?

Stupid me...

Hey guys!
i bought a DHD 1 month ago, i was pretty satisfied with it!
but one day the screen had "layers" of fat on it, so i wanted to clean it..
i used a normal house window cleaner on it.
sprayed it on the screen arround 30 CM away from the screen and i wiped it off
the screen was as good as new!
but one ouhr later i noticed some darker spots on the screen!
i didnt accually care.. i thought it would dry away .. but it didnt (the spots didnt spread either.)
but the next day i was listening to music, then i noticed that the volume keys didnt work (the volum + key is frozen) so the music was always turned on maximum.
so i think the cleansing fluid made my phone wet from inside... is it a way to fix this?
(ive already sendt it in to a workshop they refuse to fix it because its not in the warrnty)

How much had you actually paid for your DHD? And you seriously thought you would save a fortune by NOT buying mobile screen cleanser??? I salute your decision mate

sphuyal said:
How much had you actually paid for your DHD? And you seriously thought you would save a fortune by NOT buying mobile screen cleanser??? I salute your decision mate
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er det ikke murlig å få kjøpt erstatningsdeler? (feks: skjerm OSV...)

There has been talk of putting your phone in a bag of rice to remove the moisture. Another would be using kittly litter but I'd go with the rice idea.

pkabia said:
er det ikke murlig å få kjøpt erstatningsdeler? (feks: skjerm OSV...)
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Sorry gotta post in English as it it's the rule. I do not know if you can buy parts of it (which you can i guess). But then the problem would be replacing it. I saw some advertisements about guys who fix mobiles on finn.no back sometime. So you might want to check there.
Btw, it has not passed a year since DHD was released and you say there is no warranty? That surprises me even more. If warranty is void because of the custom ROM, flash the original RUU and send it back in.

The best bet is to dry the phone out as much as possible, as suggested above. I would place it 10-15cm above a radiator, so that it gets plenty of heat, but not too much. Take all the covers off so that the heat can enter as much as possible.
Moisture is the first thing they look for, which obviously voids warranty. I did the above for an iPod that got wet in a downpour and stopped working - and they exchanged it for me . But this was only rainwater.
If the goo from the spray has stuck electronics components together, that will probably invalidate the guarantee - BUT at this point your best bet is to get someone qualified, who can actually clean recondition the phone, even if it costs you money. As it stands, your phone sounds worthless, so if it can be functional again, that is a necessary cost.
Imagine, you may see goo inside the phone that you know that you should remove, but how are you to know if any components are failing and need replacing? A tech service centre does this many times a day.
At least, they should give you an estimate, so you can decide whether to go ahead.

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ok.. heres the thing..
sorry for the poor explenation.
i rapped the phone arround a dry towel and sat it uppon a radiator untill it reached arround 60 degrees Celsius.
im now able to turn on the phone, but because of the volume key fail, its only booting on Hboot and nothing else, and im not able to navigate unless i remove the battery cover cearfully and press the volume keys as hard as i can. (it would only mess up the phone over time)
i think (hope) its only a tiny error that can be fixed by replacing the buttons (if its possible

i'm sorry to hear it. it takes time to remove the moist inside the device. maybe you can do your way on drying the phone more frequenly ( make sure the phone is turn off ). i hope your DHD will become normal again.

I get annoying black box warning popup from my network service provider....
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[Q] Resurrected my Epic from the toilet.One problem though.

Ok my one and a half year old son got a hold of my Epic Touch and I dont know for how long he had it in the toilet.I knew this day would come but I was hoping for it to be my girlfriend's original Epic,lol.
So I took it apart,dryed it real good with paper towel first,then with air and baked it in oven for a minute or two.
I put it back together and it works!Its amazing because after my son diped it in water it layed wet for about twenty minutes before I found it.
I have one question for those that have more knowledge about Epic's internals:
Everything works except the POWER BUTTON!Yes I can use the power button one time to turn on the phone but after that it doesnt work anymore.
I cant turn off the phone,bring up the shutdown/airplane mode menu or anything else,in order to turn off the phone I need to pull battery.
Yes I took it apart again cleaned everything with rubbin alcohol inside and still same problem,any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Oh,is there any apps out there that can map power button to search or home buttons?

lviv73 said:
Ok my one and a half year old son got a hold of my Epic Touch and I dont know for how long he had it in the toilet.I knew this day would come but I was hoping for it to be my girlfriend's original Epic,lol.
So I took it apart,dryed it real good with paper towel first,then with air and baked it in oven for a minute or two.
I put it back together and it works!Its amazing because after my son diped it in water it layed wet for about twenty minutes before I found it.
I have one question for those that have more knowledge about Epic's internals:
Everything works except the POWER BUTTON!Yes I can use the power button one time to turn on the phone but after that it doesnt work anymore.
I cant turn off the phone,bring up the shutdown/airplane mode menu or anything else,in order to turn off the phone I need to pull battery.
Yes I took it apart again cleaned everything with rubbin alcohol inside and still same problem,any ideas?
Thanks in advance.
Oh,is there any apps out there that can map power button to search or home buttons?
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Maybe umm quickboot plus from the market can do it. Only $2
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Do not power it back on.. Put it in a sealed bowl and fill it with rice. Leave it there for at least 24hrs. Even longer if you want the best result. It takes water damage a couple of weeks to really rear its ugly head. Sofar rice seems to be the best bet.
Good luck.. Report back to help out others with this same prob.

Definitely try the rice trick... I would recommend doing that before baking your motherboard in the oven.
The only time I've ever heard of baking any electronic device in the oven is for the Xbox 360...
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Indrid Cole said:
Do not power it back on.. Put it in a sealed bowl and fill it with rice. Leave it there for at least 24hrs. Even longer if you want the best result. It takes water damage a couple of weeks to really rear its ugly head. Sofar rice seems to be the best bet.
Good luck.. Report back to help out others with this same prob.
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I already took it apart and dried it,plus put it in oven.I would say that there is no need for rice now,rice is for those that want to dry inside without talkn the phone apart.Everything works but the power button which is really strange.

Mattix724 said:
Definitely try the rice trick... I would recommend doing that before baking your motherboard in the oven.
The only time I've ever heard of baking any electronic device in the oven is for the Xbox 360...
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I just did that to make sure any remaing moisture was gone.Still no answer why I cant use the power button except to turn on the phone.

Are you on a custom ROM? if so, maybe its the ROM bugging out, not the phone. Just a wild guess.

Do the RICE deal as mentioned above it WORKS on all sorts of electronics!

Chew DZ said:
Are you on a custom ROM? if so, maybe its the ROM bugging out, not the phone. Just a wild guess.
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Im starting to think that too,im gonna try reflashing and see what happens.Power button does work to turn the phone on but after this it doesn't.
I just don't want to reflash because i been running Blazer 4.0 for 3 months now(the longest i ever went without flashing,lol) and i added all types of custom apk"s to that rom.I would usually extract apk files from this rom and pit them in the new one but i odexed it,so no it looks like im going to have to make a whole new rom and that's a day gone.

He has already gone far and above the rice trick. That would be repetitive and unnecessary.
Also, rubbing alcohol is not a good solution. It leaves a film on the metal that is highly corrosive. You need denatured alcohol.
The power button has a two step contact. That button most likely needs to be replaced. You can order cheap on a wholesale parts website.
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azyouthinkeyeiz said:
He has already gone far and above the rice trick. That would be repetitive and unnecessary.
Also, rubbing alcohol is not a good solution. It leaves a film on the metal that is highly corrosive. You need denatured alcohol.
The power button has a two step contact. That button most likely needs to be replaced. You can order cheap on a wholesale parts website.
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Finally someone understands it.I don't think power button needs replacement because i use the power button to turn on the phone,lol.But after that power button doesn't work.The power button only works one time-to turn on the phone but that's it,so its not the button that's defective.Its gotta be software related or one of the chips that controls power button after the phone is on is fried.

I didnt kno the e4gt was out that long lol.. Either way anything could be going on.. It was dropped in water lol
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Try button remapper to resolve the power button ordeal. I personally would ditch the search button and use that as the new power button.
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The likely reason its not functioning after you power on is a short somewhere created by the liquid. When powered off the short is not affecting but once on it disables the button. I dont think you can replace that button unless you've got some decent soldering skills and you cant really be sure that even that would fix it. Liquid is one of those wildcards when it comes to electronics. You dont know if your screwed from jump or if the liquid might rear its ugly head later... too unpredictable.

d12unk13astard said:
Try button remapper to resolve the power button ordeal. I personally would ditch the search button and use that as the new power button.
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Just what i was thinking,what is the button remapper app called?

blackhawksnip3r said:
The likely reason its not functioning after you power on is a short somewhere created by the liquid. When powered off the short is not affecting but once on it disables the button. I dont think you can replace that button unless you've got some decent soldering skills and you cant really be sure that even that would fix it. Liquid is one of those wildcards when it comes to electronics. You dont know if your screwed from jump or if the liquid might rear its ugly head later... too unpredictable.
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I already thought of that,i was thinking if i run the phone for a while and internals get warm that this little drop of water will evaporate(if that's what it is because i heated in in the oven pretty good,i couldn't even touch it),i will have to see after few days of usage.

i thought the one problem... would be it smelled like ****. :good:

lviv73 said:
I already thought of that,i was thinking if i run the phone for a while and internals get warm that this little drop of water will evaporate(if that's what it is because i heated in in the oven pretty good,i couldn't even touch it),i will have to see after few days of usage.
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Lol the water emits an electrical shock when put in water which can damage any part of the phone.. Heating it up in a microwave is only resoldering the phone.. Wont fix an electrical shock that could have damaged a chip or a hardware button a led etc.. What would happen if you had a pc plugged in and dropped it in water while it was on? Just throw it in the microwave and itd be fine?
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elliwigy said:
Lol the water emits an electrical shock when put in water which can damage any part of the phone.. Heating it up in a microwave is only resoldering the phone.. Wont fix an electrical shock that could have damaged a chip or a hardware button a led etc.. What would happen if you had a pc plugged in and dropped it in water while it was on? Just throw it in the microwave and itd be fine?
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Lol,microwave?Who said anything about microwave?Im talking about regular oven,microwave will fry everything in few seconds.

Damn it,now its serious,phone wont go into Download Mode.When i try to put it in download mode i push "up" key for "Yes" and it flashes for about one second download mode,well not exactly it flashes this:
ODIN MODE(in red letters)
Product Name:SPH-700
Custom Binary Download:NO
Current Binary:Samsung Official
Downloading do not turn off target
It flashes that for about one second then it starts to boot into android.Another thing that i noticed is when i power on the phone i get Samsung Galaxy S2 logo then it disappears then the phone reboots and i get Samsung Galaxy S2 logo second time and then it boots into android.
So it boots after second galaxy s logo.I can still boot into CWM though that's only good thing.
Has anyone encountered similar phenomenon before?

help recover from after being submerged in water

Hi long story short: Phone slip from my jacket into a ice cold water cooler and spend there at least 2 minutes.
I was able to disassemble and dry it up, did a trick with usb charging and replugging the battery at the same time of powering it up and I got it working again.
The display is soaked in water still no matter how much I try to dry it using a hair dryer. So I order a new one. + a new battery just in case this ones goes bad eventually.
Now my problem is that the usb is not being recognized while plugged on a computer.
Beside this I don't know what other hidden issues it might have.
How screw am I ?
How much mileage can I get out of this phone now?

Do you have any kind of corrosion on metal contact and/or phone motherboard? If so, the only way to fix corrosion is to clean it in ultrasound bath with chemicals.

you're not suppose to turn it on until it fully dried, too late for that
you should have left it in some rice for a few days
do it now and it might still be recoverable since it seems to still work, but don't get your hopes up

anonxlg said:
you're not suppose to turn it on until it fully dried, too late for that
you should have left it in some rice for a few days
do it now and it might still be recoverable since it seems to still work, but don't get your hopes up
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it was still on when I took it off the cooler, I couldn't turn it off without using the power button and this is not a galaxy that I could remove the battery right away. I wasn't at my place and didn't have any tools with me.
The phone is working now, but I don't know for how long. thanks for your advice thou.

then it's probably fine then, it can't get worse at least

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then it's probably fine then, it can't get worse at least
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Yes it can, sometimes water damage shows itself after a few hours or days (corrossion). Hope OP is lucky and there is no permanant damage :fingers-crossed:

gee2012 said:
Yes it can, sometimes water damage shows itself after a few hours or days (corrossion). Hope OP is lucky and there is no permanant damage :fingers-crossed:
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Thanks for your reply, this is what I am mostly worried about. I don't know what I can do to meausure the extend of the damage at this point, so I am sailing blindfolded atm.

Icharius said:
Thanks for your reply, this is what I am mostly worried about. I don't know what I can do to meausure the extend of the damage at this point, so I am sailing blindfolded atm.
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Put the turned off phone covered in a bowl with uncooked rice asap and let it in for a day or two to extract as much moisture as possible :good:

Well it seems it is done.
First the volume button went out, then the power button. I tried and clean it again with alcohol to no avail. Send it to a repair shop to see if they can fix it since the phone is still working but can't turn it off without the buttons.
Thanks everyone that chime in. really appreciate it!

Dropped in water now camera LED wont turn off

I dropped my Oneplus 3 in the toilet. I then bought a special bag with a block thing in it which sucks water out of phones... which seemed to have worked. My phone now turns on and works... but the camera LED wont turn off! Turning the flashlight on and back off just makes the LED bright... but it stays on (only dimmer) when toggled off.
Any idea how I can fix this or disable the camera LED completely?
Thanks

So sad mate.
Your flash light circuit has been damaged. I had similar issue with my Lumia 625 after dropping into the water. But it had removable back.
Your issue can be fixed by a hardware fix only. But try a traditional method.
Remove sim tray, turn off your phone and place your phone in a rice bowl over night. Then use low flow hair dryer from a distance on your op3.
Good Luck mate

Thanks mate, tried both but the light still stays on. Its not at full brightness so hopefully it wont drain the battery too fast.
Just charged her, the two bottom captivate buttons have stopped working too. I've switched to onscreen buttons.
I'll see if I can live with it and wait out for a oneplus 4 maybe.
I'd love a Pixel but the 128gb one is £820 in the UK! Thats crazy money when this phone is so good.

dismantle the phone, disconnect battery, clean pcb and flex with alcohol. wait till all components will dry. try to power on and see if it helped. Best way would be to wash in ultrasonic cleaner.

just wondering... how the f&*k did you dropped it in the toilet? Do you take your phone with you to the bathroom?
Anyway sorry to hear about the camera.

acmerw said:
dismantle the phone, disconnect battery, clean pcb and flex with alcohol. wait till all components will dry. try to power on and see if it helped. Best way would be to wash in ultrasonic cleaner.
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Thanks pal, might give that a go!

badboy47 said:
just wondering... how the f&*k did you dropped it in the toilet? Do you take your phone with you to the bathroom?
Anyway sorry to hear about the camera.
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I was drunk, it was in my back pocket and I had a sit down piss... it must have just fallen in when I pulled my trousers down :crying:

viperman78 said:
I was drunk, it was in my back pocket and I had a sit down piss... it must have just fallen in when I pulled my trousers down :crying:
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Bummer. Would you be able to open the phone? The process is very easy. Check out few videos on YouTube on how to do that. I have feeling some parts might be still wet.

viperman78 said:
i was drunk, it was in my back pocket and i had a sit down piss... It must have just fallen in when i pulled my trousers down :crying:
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hahahahahahahahaha