first of all i want to thank everyone that contributed to CM6, and the team most of all.without them a lot of things would not be possible.
CM6 is awesome but it needs an awesome camera. WE have a 8-MEGAPIXEL BEAST OF A OPTICAL SENSOR WHY NOT TAKE FULL ADVANTAGE OF IT? lets face it the camera was not designed for the evo. it was ported to work. Not designed around it to REALLY take full advanage of the sensor. How about we change that? how can I contribute to that?
weehooherod said:
I completely agree, the Sense camera is so much better than the cm6 camera.The touch to focus effect on the cm6 camera is worthless yet it is so awesome on the sense camera.
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yes we need this topic to be of great importance. because i have tried all the camera apks from just about all different types of roms... nothing compares to the sense camera
One of my main reasons for having the GN (I prefer a keyboard phone) is the responsiveness of the camera. My GN's camera has zero shutter lag running the stock rom rooted with faux123's kernel. When I run custom roms the camera picture taking is slower.
To be clear, the camera is NOT SLOW ON A CUSTOM ROM. It is simply not immediate in the way that it is on stock. Thus far, I have run MCR, Liquid Smooth and CM9 Nightlies. None of them had the camera speed of stock. I may be doing something wrong though. Thought I'd ask before simply sticking with stock rooted.
I'd like to have quick access to settings and other features that a custom rom offers but I absolutely need the camera to be instantaneous as it is on stock.
Any advice?
TIA
It was something they broke on 4.0.3 and fixed in 4.0.4 so try a newer ROM running 4.0.4
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Thanks for a fast reply on that. Will give that a go.
Edit: Tried out Liquid and it is really so much slower than stock camera. It focuses for a full one to two seconds before the shutter activates and that kinda delay won't work for me. I'll try some other 4.0.4 roms and see if they do any better this go round. If not, back to stock 4.0.2 until they figure out this data drop bug then stock 4.0.4. I gotta have the instant shutter.
Well, tried several more roms and they all have the focus lag. So I'm back to stock. It's weird to me. Seems that they would at least be the same. Wouldn't necessarily expect a custom rom to be faster in that dept but slower? No matter. Stock android on a Nexus is satisfying enough. I need the instant camera. Thanks again.
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Well, tried several more roms and they all have the focus lag. So I'm back to stock. It's weird to me. Seems that they would at least be the same. Wouldn't necessarily expect a custom rom to be faster in that dept but slower? No matter. Stock android on a Nexus is satisfying enough. I need the instant camera. Thanks again.
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Well its the difference between AOSP and the OTA. They are very similar, but still different. That's a perfect example, but 4.0.4 was supposed to improve the shutter speed and make it focus faster.
AOKP ftw. I have the same qualms and AOKP has always been incredibly quick with the camera. I'm running MIUI rom right now and it does take that extra fraction of a second or whatever to focus but I deal I was running AOKP M4 and Franco's M2 (and later his nightlies - don't remember if any were better than the other) and it would capture so quickly that I had to double check my little previous preview window to see if it snapped.
I think on all 4.04 the camera is slower because it allows the camera to focus and take a better pic while before it wouldn't focus if you didn't click manually and would take pic right away. Sometimes this would result in worse quality and I believe that's why they changed it in 4.04.
Could be wrong though..
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Typically I find the first pic is slower while it focuses but sequential shots are instant.
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AOKP is just as slow. I'm looking at a fresh install of AOKP right now. It's the touch to focus feature all the custom roms have. Makes the camera so slow focusing (and again, when I say so slow, I mean slower than stock which is instant). Stock is the only option I guess. Unless, that is, one of the roms has the option to disable touch to focus. Is there one?
As for what player911 is saying, this is true. The first pic is slower focusing and sequential pics are faster. IF you basically don't move the camera. If you recompose the shot, move around, the camera will do the focusing dance all over again. I have a 20 month old. I need the first shot. AND I'll be moving around, lol. The custom roms just don't cut it in this regard. I've never had a phone where the stock software was decent enough to the point that I'd even consider not going custom but the GN running Android without Touchwiz/Sense/Blur is just awesome and I can definitely live with it. Plus I have my instant camera!!
Back to stock I go.
Thanks folks.
This sounds ridiculous to me. Yes, it does take 1-2 seconds for the first shot to focus, but then all sequential shots are instant. That is the point. So you want to have really blurry photos all the time and have it never focus, even though you're getting an instant first shot? That doesn't make sense to me.
Actually, the camera focusing is something I would like. Sure, the instantaneous thing is nice, but I'd rather a clear picture. Maybe a custom rom could offer the option to switch between the different ways the camera operates (like one option focusing before the first shot the other like it is before .4)?
OP, once on stock 4.0.4, you will see the camera actually focuses.... What you are describing is the behaviour on stock 4.0.1 and 4.0.2 roms
Point camera at subject, allow it to focus on its own, take picture. Just as fast as the 4.0.2 camera if not faster
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4.0.4 the camera is much better. First shot takes half a second or less to focus, and most of the shots after that are instant if you take them quickly enough.
The quality of the pics is much better now as well.
On 4.0.2 all the pics came out blurry or double vision. Now they are sharp and clear.
The first shot is only blurry if you can't hold the camera steady. I can.
As for 4.0.4 camera taking less than a second to focus, it just isn't true in my experience. I used half a dozen 4.0.4 rims last night to be sure. Why would I want to be rooted and on stock rom if this wasn't truly the case???? Who would want that?
Think about it....
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anton2009 said:
This sounds ridiculous to me. Yes, it does take 1-2 seconds for the first shot to focus, but then all sequential shots are instant. That is the point. So you want to have really blurry photos all the time and have it never focus, even though you're getting an instant first shot? That doesn't make sense to me.
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Thank you for this.
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The first shot is only blurry if you can't hold the camera steady. I can.
As for 4.0.4 camera taking less than a second to focus, it just isn't true in my experience. I used half a dozen 4.0.4 rims last night to be sure. Why would I want to be rooted and on stock rom if this wasn't truly the case???? Who would want that?
Think about it....
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So because it is not true for you, it must be false for everyone else?
Nice logic....
You need optimal light conditions for quick focusing. I focus in a second or less, and each shot after that is instant.
adrynalyne said:
So because it is not true for you, it must be false for everyone else?
Nice logic....
You need optimal light conditions for quick focusing. I focus in a second or less, and each shot after that is instant.
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I asked for help finding the fastest camera because I want to catch photos of my son. People gave suggestions, I tried them and they weren't faster FOR ME. I said and clicked thanks for the suggestions. What's the problem here? You've got too much time on your hands. Leave me alone if you can't be helpful.
Focusing is almost instant on 4.0.4. Way better than previous versions of ICS for me.
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I asked for help finding the fastest camera because I want to catch photos of my son. People gave suggestions, I tried them and they weren't faster FOR ME. I said and clicked thanks for the suggestions. What's the problem here? You've got too much time on your hands. Leave me alone if you can't be helpful.
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I gave suggestions. Sorry if they don't meet your approval.
I just saw that OMNIrom has finally been available for d3att and im quite excited about since it has multiwindow(one of the few things that keeps me locked to touchwiz).
But i was wondering is the stock camera a downgrade? I have read reports and discussions saying the stock camera is much more inferior to the touchwiz camera.
Besides the obvious benefits of having the newest android build, better battery(what i heard), and less bloat(although i usually just titanium them away), I would like peoples opinions on how else does stock compare to touch?
cj95zz said:
I just saw that OMNIrom has finally been available for d3att and im quite excited about since it has multiwindow(one of the few things that keeps me locked to touchwiz).
But i was wondering is the stock camera a downgrade? I have read reports and discussions saying the stock camera is much more inferior to the touchwiz camera.
Besides the obvious benefits of having the newest android build, better battery(what i heard), and less bloat(although i usually just titanium them away), I would like peoples opinions on how else does stock compare to touch?
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It depends on what you define personally as a "downgrade". Obviously because Touchwiz is proprietary to Samsung and not available for devs to port to their AOSP based roms, you're not going to get the fancy bells and whistles that come bundled with Samsung's camera app. However, I don't think it's fair to call it a downgrade if you're speaking merely in terms of picture and video quality.
From personal experience I've found the stock camera on most of the AOSP 4.3 based roms to be just as good in quality as Samsung's app. 4.4 based roms still have to work out bugs in the stock camera app so I wouldn't try those first. Find yourself a stable 4.3 based rom like CyanogenMod 10.2 or Quantum V2 Final and try your luck with those.
If you find that the camera lacks features you found yourself liking from the Samsung camera app, I suggest finding a good 3rd party camera app such as Camera Zoom FX. It provides just enough features that make the camera a pleasure to use while also retaining great picture quality. It has settings that allow for full 100% jpeg quality whereas some may limit the quality to 80% or less.
Hope this helps, I know how hard it is to find a straight answer since a lot of this depends on your own experience and observation but hopefully this leads you in the right direction.
thanks a lot for ur answer. like im quite sick of the time it takes to upgrade anything by samsung. i never knew that some apps would limit the size. but anyway ill wait for the 4.4 to be a little more stable first. ill definitely make the switch once i gte word that samsung wont support NA S3s anymore,
I'm debating whether to flash AOSP/CM.
Has anyone done any tests comparing the camera quality on the Android Stock roms VS original TouchWiz camera app?
I'm trying to examine the ups and downs of moving from original TouchWix roms to something more close to stock.
Camera quality is an important aspect to me.
Many thanks.
knite75 said:
I'm debating whether to flash AOSP/CM.
Has anyone done any tests comparing the camera quality on the Android Stock roms VS original TouchWiz camera app?
I'm trying to examine the ups and downs of moving from original TouchWix roms to something more close to stock.
Camera quality is an important aspect to me.
Many thanks.
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AOSP camera is pretty darn good, but I don't think it 100% comparable to Touchwiz. Why not try it and see if you like it.
I run AOSP because it is SOOO much faster then Touchwiz.
I'll go with AOSP, yes it's more faster and better
Aosp is better also they have a camera called snap, I found the download in the forums, picture quality is great, you can record video in 100fps in1080, no 4k tho, and no slowmo, if you find a slow no camera app for aosp please inform me
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I've seen more great quality pictures on AOSP users too.
Hi,
I'd really like to use a custom ROM, but camera performance is rather important for me. How big is the difference in this aspect between a custom and original ROM?
And also, what's to expect in this subject? Is there any hope to have in the near future a custom ROM with equal to original camera performance?
I have the same inquiry as well, but as for what I've been reading so far. It is not possible at the moment or possibly will never happen( I hope I'm wrong with this one.).
Conclusion: You can't have the best of both worlds.
There is a clear big difference between custom and stock rom in terms of camera quality. It's like night and day in my opinion. Although shots taken by custom rom are acceptable but compare to stock, the details and colors are way off when using custom rom. In terms of futurem nobody knows but this issue also exist on other phone. Like Xperia 2011 devices where the quality really degrades when using AOSP based rom though the big issue there is the camera libraries.
I thought only the Z3's use those very special DRM-Codes in the TA-Partition for LowLight and other Stuff? Isn't the rest "just" Sonys Camera Software?
I would love to use CM11, and i think i could live with a bit less low light quality, but as a DSLR owner i want another camera that is good with "point-and-shoot" situations...the Stock Z1 with the superior automatic is perfect for that kind of stuff....
Can't say how much is the difference, since I did not leave the phone at stock for a very long time, but in CM I find the back camera quality pretty good even in dark settings, when the flash is being used (low ISO).
However, when the flash is disabled or the front camera is used in low light (high ISO), the pictures are next to unusable.
I still can't understand what exact part of the camera processing configuration is stored on those DRM partitions and why did Sony, who otherwise support custom ROM development, made such particular decision...
I'd like to lift this thread and ask again, are there any lollipop roms with better or at least the same quality on camera?
vildevilde said:
I'd like to lift this thread and ask again, are there any lollipop roms with better or at least the same quality on camera?
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You will not find a CM camera that comes anywhere near the quality of stock, sorry. Feel free to keep asking.