I just saw that OMNIrom has finally been available for d3att and im quite excited about since it has multiwindow(one of the few things that keeps me locked to touchwiz).
But i was wondering is the stock camera a downgrade? I have read reports and discussions saying the stock camera is much more inferior to the touchwiz camera.
Besides the obvious benefits of having the newest android build, better battery(what i heard), and less bloat(although i usually just titanium them away), I would like peoples opinions on how else does stock compare to touch?
cj95zz said:
I just saw that OMNIrom has finally been available for d3att and im quite excited about since it has multiwindow(one of the few things that keeps me locked to touchwiz).
But i was wondering is the stock camera a downgrade? I have read reports and discussions saying the stock camera is much more inferior to the touchwiz camera.
Besides the obvious benefits of having the newest android build, better battery(what i heard), and less bloat(although i usually just titanium them away), I would like peoples opinions on how else does stock compare to touch?
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It depends on what you define personally as a "downgrade". Obviously because Touchwiz is proprietary to Samsung and not available for devs to port to their AOSP based roms, you're not going to get the fancy bells and whistles that come bundled with Samsung's camera app. However, I don't think it's fair to call it a downgrade if you're speaking merely in terms of picture and video quality.
From personal experience I've found the stock camera on most of the AOSP 4.3 based roms to be just as good in quality as Samsung's app. 4.4 based roms still have to work out bugs in the stock camera app so I wouldn't try those first. Find yourself a stable 4.3 based rom like CyanogenMod 10.2 or Quantum V2 Final and try your luck with those.
If you find that the camera lacks features you found yourself liking from the Samsung camera app, I suggest finding a good 3rd party camera app such as Camera Zoom FX. It provides just enough features that make the camera a pleasure to use while also retaining great picture quality. It has settings that allow for full 100% jpeg quality whereas some may limit the quality to 80% or less.
Hope this helps, I know how hard it is to find a straight answer since a lot of this depends on your own experience and observation but hopefully this leads you in the right direction.
thanks a lot for ur answer. like im quite sick of the time it takes to upgrade anything by samsung. i never knew that some apps would limit the size. but anyway ill wait for the 4.4 to be a little more stable first. ill definitely make the switch once i gte word that samsung wont support NA S3s anymore,
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Hello,
I just got my S4 from T-mobile and I ran a Qaud score on the stock ROM which was around 12,000. Then I just flashed AOKP and am now only getting around 6,500. Any idea why? How can I fix this?
I love vanilla Android, but I will have to go back to modded stock if I can't get the same fast speeds.
Thanks in advance,
-Jesse.
PS I would post this in the actual ROM development thread, but I am not allowed to post there since I am new =/
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razorj7 said:
Hello,
I just got my S4 from T-mobile and I ran a Qaud score on the stock ROM which was around 12,000. Then I just flashed AOKP and am now only getting around 6,500. Any idea why? How can I fix this?
I love vanilla Android, but I will have to go back to modded stock if I can't get the same fast speeds.
Thanks in advance,
-Jesse.
PS I would post this in the actual ROM development thread, but I am not allowed to post there since I am new =/
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The best thing to do is only flash the Samsung Touchwiz Tmobile M919 4.2.2 based custom roms .
You will also find that there will be no wifi calling in any of the AOKP/AOSP/CM roms.
Have you ever heard the audio playback in videos in any of the AOKP/AOSP/CM roms?
It's so quiet that you can hardly hear it without a headset and bluetooth does not work properly.
Also the camera in those roms have about 50% of the options and features when compared to the samsung camera.
The lcd screen/user interface of the camera does not look professional when compared to to the samsung interface.
Another thing, none of the new features which are related to touchwiz and samsung will be available in those roms.
For example: smart screen, smart stay, screen mirroring, s beam, air view, air gesture, voice control and more.
Good luck!
razorj7 said:
Hello,
I just got my S4 from T-mobile and I ran a Qaud score on the stock ROM which was around 12,000. Then I just flashed AOKP and am now only getting around 6,500. Any idea why? How can I fix this?
I love vanilla Android, but I will have to go back to modded stock if I can't get the same fast speeds.
Thanks in advance,
-Jesse.
PS I would post this in the actual ROM development thread, but I am not allowed to post there since I am new =/
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Don't hold much in scores. They can be easily adjusted with a few build prop edits with no real bonuses to real world use.
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Hi,
I Would like to explain abit more,
The Hardware in each phone is different, and Samsung (or any other brand) will write thier drivers for thier hardware parts.
when a new phone comes out, the community attend to port a clean android build for that device, but they are not always able
to write a driver as good as Samsung does, please keep in mind that most of the reference guides of the hardware are secret.
so basically, it's always takes time since the device comes out, until there is a good working version of AOSP/AOKP rom...
BUT and this is a big BUT, for the S4 device, google announced that they are going to release a version of SGS4 with AOSP on it,
probably they did a good job writing (or porting) the hardware parts for the device..
i belive that when google will release thier version of SGS4, we are going to get much better AOSP/AOKP roms.
I'm debating whether to flash AOSP/CM.
Has anyone done any tests comparing the camera quality on the Android Stock roms VS original TouchWiz camera app?
I'm trying to examine the ups and downs of moving from original TouchWix roms to something more close to stock.
Camera quality is an important aspect to me.
Many thanks.
knite75 said:
I'm debating whether to flash AOSP/CM.
Has anyone done any tests comparing the camera quality on the Android Stock roms VS original TouchWiz camera app?
I'm trying to examine the ups and downs of moving from original TouchWix roms to something more close to stock.
Camera quality is an important aspect to me.
Many thanks.
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AOSP camera is pretty darn good, but I don't think it 100% comparable to Touchwiz. Why not try it and see if you like it.
I run AOSP because it is SOOO much faster then Touchwiz.
I'll go with AOSP, yes it's more faster and better
Aosp is better also they have a camera called snap, I found the download in the forums, picture quality is great, you can record video in 100fps in1080, no 4k tho, and no slowmo, if you find a slow no camera app for aosp please inform me
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I've seen more great quality pictures on AOSP users too.
Could anyone running "stock" CM 11 on their T-Mo S3 comment on the experience? Is battery usage better/worse/the same as the stock TW 4.3 ROM? Any issues with screen auto-brightness, sensors, etc? Are there any stock Samsung apps that you miss?
I'm on the fence right now- I've been stock & unrooted since I got my S3 almost 2 years ago, but now starting to get the itch to move away from all the Samsung bloat. I know there are some little things I will miss about the Samsung version of some apps like email, but having a more uniform and less junked-up experience is appealing. I know I could root & get rid of the bloat too...
Just curious as to folks' impressions- I've used CM 7-10 in the past and enjoyed it...
Thanks in advance!
Quiet out there! Well, I've run across some reports of camera issues, but that's about the only negative I see with CM11 vs. TouchWiz so far. Oh, and losing WIFI calling, which has never been a big deal to me, but I do like having the option.
Everyone has their own preferences. Personally I am a TW guy. But there's plenty of folks on both sides. Great thing is you can try it and if you don't like it, just flash back to stock based.
Yup just try it, its nice, but up to personal preference.. I think camera and WiFi calling is one of the only downsides. I didn't experience much trouble with camera it was very stable, just that the touchwiz camera app is much better and takes superior photos IMO, also has more options.. You could always try a 3rd party camera app of course, so again its personal preference
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Everyone has their own preferences. Personally I am a TW guy. But there's plenty of folks on both sides. Great thing is you can try it and if you don't like it, just flash back to stock based.
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Me too. I like the camera, color point is a neat feature that no other camera seems to offers, I find the launcher works well and flows nice. I keep trying other ROM's with 1534534534543 features that I don't really ever use or need and come back to the stock ROM. Running 4.4.2 from my carrier, rooted with towelroot, KT kernel for power tweaking, can uninstall all the bloat I want and I'm good.
It's a choice, but sometimes, there are too many choices. XXX Rom has all the best (our option of the best) features of A,B,C,D,E,F,G. Ya, well our rom YYY has all the best features of A,B,C,D,E,F,G and H. Ooooo. Does it really matter? lol. I like being able to update my Gapps when I want, not have to run a special version.
XDA did a test a while ago against the Linaro toolchain compiles vs gcc and found no real difference in speed of apps or battery life. XDA or some other Android site did a test of ART vs dalvik, not a huge difference, ART performing worse in some cases. Same with all the build.prop tweaks that others tout. In reality and in testing, most don't do anything, or worse in some cases.
There is too many, I guess rumors out there about Android that everyone jumps on like "tweaks", "compile flags", "odex vs deodex" that keep going around, and don't seem to change anything other than offer bugs. Hard to find a custom ROM that isn't updated all the time to fix this issues or reports of random reboots, etc, all the time in the threads.
To each their own, but in reality, I don't think there is much difference between all the different ROM's. All small, small, variations on a theme. And half the difference or added in things, not many people use anyways.
Hi,
I'd really like to use a custom ROM, but camera performance is rather important for me. How big is the difference in this aspect between a custom and original ROM?
And also, what's to expect in this subject? Is there any hope to have in the near future a custom ROM with equal to original camera performance?
I have the same inquiry as well, but as for what I've been reading so far. It is not possible at the moment or possibly will never happen( I hope I'm wrong with this one.).
Conclusion: You can't have the best of both worlds.
There is a clear big difference between custom and stock rom in terms of camera quality. It's like night and day in my opinion. Although shots taken by custom rom are acceptable but compare to stock, the details and colors are way off when using custom rom. In terms of futurem nobody knows but this issue also exist on other phone. Like Xperia 2011 devices where the quality really degrades when using AOSP based rom though the big issue there is the camera libraries.
I thought only the Z3's use those very special DRM-Codes in the TA-Partition for LowLight and other Stuff? Isn't the rest "just" Sonys Camera Software?
I would love to use CM11, and i think i could live with a bit less low light quality, but as a DSLR owner i want another camera that is good with "point-and-shoot" situations...the Stock Z1 with the superior automatic is perfect for that kind of stuff....
Can't say how much is the difference, since I did not leave the phone at stock for a very long time, but in CM I find the back camera quality pretty good even in dark settings, when the flash is being used (low ISO).
However, when the flash is disabled or the front camera is used in low light (high ISO), the pictures are next to unusable.
I still can't understand what exact part of the camera processing configuration is stored on those DRM partitions and why did Sony, who otherwise support custom ROM development, made such particular decision...
I'd like to lift this thread and ask again, are there any lollipop roms with better or at least the same quality on camera?
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I'd like to lift this thread and ask again, are there any lollipop roms with better or at least the same quality on camera?
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You will not find a CM camera that comes anywhere near the quality of stock, sorry. Feel free to keep asking.
I bought my G3 used in like new condition, rooted it, and installed TWRP. Couldn't stand the stock ROM (spoiled by years of using phones on AOSP, I guess) and spent a day poking around. Tried several AOSP/CM ROMs and think I'm happy on Euphoria.
The only reason I care about stock is probably the only reason anyone cares about stock on the G3: the camera. I tried debloated stock and Cloudy and didn't care for either. I'm running the Lenovo SNAPit Camera (LSC) with modded settings/libs/whatever and it's fine, but still less than I expected from the G3's fantastic camera. We all know the stock camera won't ever come to AOSP/CM, so I think my only option is to go back to stock if I care that much (and it may turn out that I don't).
And so my question: what's the best way to make stock look like AOSP? Bonus points for added functionality that comes from CM. So...Xposed? I could keep installing new ROMs and playing around, but making a quick thread seems to the best way to save myself literally hours of wasted time.
TIA!
You can put lipstick on a pig.
Install Nova, pick a newer icon theme, install a better SMS app,
Install Xposed and G3Tweaks, then experiment with any number of modules, making a nandroid and clearing caches at every step....
At best it's a "Sorta."
I came from the same perspective, more or less, willing to give up any number of things for that glorious laser shark proprietary camera. But every other aspect of the ROM seemed to fight me at every step until I got tired of the resistance and went to AOSP.
You're right, we may never get the LG stock camera app on an AOSP ROM, so if you really want to run AOSP, perhaps find an alternative camera that you do like (I laughed at the AOSP camera, too). In addition to the Lenovo port, there is a Motorola port, M9 port (I'm working on fixing it for the G3), and some really nice stuff like Snap Camera and Focus in the Market.
Although I sometimes miss the simplicity and accuracy of the stock camera, when I booted into my stock nandroid the other day and played with it again, I found it very limiting, too. All in all, I found that trading that cam to get back the functionality and customization that I expect on my Android devices was worth it.