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Create Boot loop/hang situation

Hi,
Normally I would not condone this kind of behaviour, but here goes:
My brand new desire dropped out of my pocket while getting out of the car after only having it for 5 days or so. I was so gutted I almost cried like a girl in front of my Mrs over a phone! I bought it SIM free for £400 which was even more painful. Thankfully it landed butter side up and there was only very slight damage to the rubberised casing at the bottom.
I want to fake a fault so I can send it back and swap it under the 28 days rule. Has anyone got any idea how I would fake a bootloop/hang? I thought about flashing lots of different roms over the top of one another without wiping. Obviously using the fakeflash method rather than Unrevoked perma-recovery.
I guess there would be something I can do via ADB to a rooted ROM that's a little more precise?
I'm so ashamed I'm resorting to this, but let's face it, these companies make loads of money from us. They'll just send it back to HTC and it will be reconditioned.
TIA!

lmao! this made my day
just put it in the microwave, this will stop it from turning on
send it back saying it one day it got really hot and then it wouldnt turn on again

This is a good way of doing this and is quite reproducible for me any how create a custom scene or two, get a lot of data in the contacts storage by linking accounts to Facebook etc install a home replace ment such as launcher pro beta then go to settings and click clear data in the contacts storage, then in the settings go to htc sense and click clear defaults l, hope fully now when you press home it will ask you to choose a default home again then choose sense, it should now be force closing on ever 5 seconds.
You can fix this by using the search button to search for settings and factory restore, all the while getting a force close message, then factory restore.
I don't condone this action, but it works for me every time.
Good luck lol.
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cgrec92 said:
lmao! this made my day
just put it in the microwave, this will stop it from turning on
send it back saying it one day it got really hot and then it wouldnt turn on again
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You put a partially metal object into a microwave! Although you managed to destroy the electrical components of the phone, you could also potentially do damage to the microwave itself and set your house on fire!
Real smart

cgrec92 said:
lmao! this made my day
just put it in the microwave, this will stop it from turning on
send it back saying it one day it got really hot and then it wouldnt turn on again
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Yeh, cheers for that. I was thinking more along the lines of something that was reversible should they refuse to exchange the phone. Your suggestion is a little more permanent than I'd like.

Oh grow up and just be more careful with the phone next time. No need to resort to fraud.

Tander_ZA said:
Oh grow up and just be more careful with the phone next time. No need to resort to fraud.
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Or buy a case
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Haha - well it is expensive to get a phone r3paired, i just payed 285 EUR to get my screen changed on my Desire

Technically it wouldn't be fraud, if you created a boot loop that shouldn't exsist. The old fit for purpose and as described law in the UK would cover this. Know the law own the law imop lol.
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naw its not fraud...

28 day rule
PS: There is actually no 28 day rule; this is a total myth, it is merely a policy offered by some of the large electriocal retailers to get one over their competitors.

rchatburn said:
Technically it wouldn't be fraud, if you created a boot loop that shouldn't exsist. The old fit for purpose and as described law in the UK would cover this. Know the law own the law imop lol.
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SiL3nTKiLL said:
naw its not fraud...
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Sorry guys, it's fraud, either way you look at it.
Firstly, by inducing the boot up loop, using modified ROMs etc, you're voiding the warranty. You're then getting HTC to replace the phone for you under false pretense = Fraud.
Like someone suggested - buy a case for it.

MasDroid said:
You put a partially metal object into a microwave! Although you managed to destroy the electrical components of the phone, you could also potentially do damage to the microwave itself and set your house on fire!
Real smart
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and then claim on your house insurance.

G2 screen discolored

So I droped my phone and now I have a purple spot in my screen.
I was wondering do you think I can get a replacement G2 even if I have S-off. I was thinking about just flashing the stock rooted backup I have and sending it in. Has anyone gotten a replacement with S-off?
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you would need to go back to stock to send it back to tmobile or you will be voiding your warrenty

Rrod15 said:
So I droped my phone and now I have a purple spot in my screen.
I was wondering do you think I can get a replacement G2 even if I have S-off. I was thinking about just flashing the stock rooted backup I have and sending it in. Has anyone gotten a replacement with S-off?
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Obvious physical damage is unlikely to be repaired under warranty unless you have paid extra for this kind of protection.
Search around and you can find an LCD to install yourself. This is one EXAMPLE (I don't know the provider and there are other places to buy them from, possibly for less money...)
http://www.gultek.eu/htc-spare-parts/lcd/desire-z.html

Thanks for the info but I think the phone gods really like me or something cause the purple spot just disappered...how I have no idea and I don't care but it is awsome...G2 #1 lives on to see another day with me
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Yeah, LCD's can be funny like that. Like touching a laptop screen gets you some funny colors. They are somewhat flexible, on a phone, the flexible lcd is somewhat protected by the inflexible digitizer.

Year at first I was very disappointed cause I had the spot there for about 30 mins the posted this thread, went to sleep and it was gone which made me happy...would have sucked ifap I did send it back cause I just put one of those stealth guards on my phone the full body cover one.
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I think the best thing to do in this case is to brick the phone to the point it doesnt even turn on. Discreetely of course. I had major water damage on my TP2 with a custom rom before. But the fact that the phone didnt even start up and that I bleached the moisture indicators helped me get a warranty replacement.

lysergication said:
I think the best thing to do in this case is to brick the phone to the point it doesnt even turn on. Discreetely of course. I had major water damage on my TP2 with a custom rom before. But the fact that the phone didnt even start up and that I bleached the moisture indicators helped me get a warranty replacement.
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You're late to the thread (and obviously didn't read it through). His problem was just temporary. Also, your solution is in extremely poor taste (both ethically and legally).

I sent my g1 in, with a crack all the way across the screen, discoloration everywhere, and lots of other scratches. (fell out of my pocket from a motorcycle) and they offered me the "upgrade" to the click at the time so i took it. I wasnt charged anything, and what they dont tell you is that if you are charged, its only gonna be 100 bucks, which is the same as what you'd pay with insurance.

Well with my g1 any problem I had with it I just sent it in for a replac ement and all it ever costed was $40 but I think that's cause the plan I have. But not sure about my g2 now cause I haven't had to send it in for a replacement yet "knock on wood" but I do wonder how much it will cost me to get a replacement.
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jenlow said:
I wasnt charged anything, and what they dont tell you is that if you are charged, its only gonna be 100 bucks, which is the same as what you'd pay with insurance.
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It only cost you your soul for 3 years, which should be worth a whole hell of a lot more than a measly $100.

dhkr123 said:
You're late to the thread (and obviously didn't read it through). His problem was just temporary. Also, your solution is in extremely poor taste (both ethically and legally).
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I knew that the OP's original problem did not apply anymore. The purpose of my reply was rather to share my experience with the others reading the post, ethics aside. As far as legality goes, you got me there now that I think about it, so I am forced to advise against doing this. Although in reality I hardly think it's any worse than not claiming the money earned from selling a phone, laptop etc., on your taxes.

lysergication said:
I knew that the OP's original problem did not apply anymore. The purpose of my reply was rather to share my experience with the others reading the post, ethics aside. As far as legality goes, you got me there now that I think about it, so I am forced to advise against doing this. Although in reality I hardly think it's any worse than not claiming the money earned from selling a phone, laptop etc., on your taxes.
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That depends... how many phones and laptops are you selling? Your used stuff? Or are you in that business? You may be perfectly OK on that, consult an accountant for precise details.

Giving my DINC2 to science

SCIENCE!!!
Nah, it froze up after user "t" on voxer added me as a friend(most likely a fake hacker account). After pulling the battery it locks up on the HTC boot screen. when booted into recovery it seems the system and cache partitions will no longer mount. Verizon let me upgrade(as i was out of insurance replacements) early to a rezound(which appears to be following a similar S-OFF situation-whiny impatient do-nothings crying foul over the wait and then of course the wait itself)
anywho im willing to give it to anyone interested in research and development. you just have to pay shipping(if its even worth it lol). If no one wants its just gonna get chucked.
BTW-off topic but whilst i wait for my rezound to come in the mail a friends letting me use a motorola photon on his sprint account and that phone sucks. the camera button sticks(its like 2 weeks old)and it freezes every so often.

You can probably still save it. Do you have adb set up?

yeah but everytime i try to flash a new recovery or anything at all for that matter(including trying NANDROID restores)it freezes and i get a failed message in adb and fastboot. something along the line of "to many reads" or something.

Did you try unrooting?

well its on GB(Virtuous Affinity), and from what ive read it has to be on froyo to unroot, and without being able to flash anything i kind of...cant
after reading this-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393538
it would seem it wasnt a hacker, but the tiniest drop of coka cola that fell on the front speaker grill, the voxer user thing could have just been a coincidance as this guys phone seems to be doing the exact same thing.

http://forums.androidcentral.com/incredible-2-rooting-roms-hacks/120950-guide-unroot-revolutionary-incredible-2-a.html

so.. how much for shipping??
I don't think i can save it but i hate to see if just thrown away

yep, even flashing using the pg32img method causes it to freeze, but ive editted my last post right at the same time you posted this so im fairly sure its useless to everyone now, but if someone wants a fancy paperweight its still up for grabs
and andy-shouldnt be much- it weighs almost nothing and with USPS flat rate shipping boxes maybe like 10$, ill take it by the ups store tomorrow when i go to pick up a case for my rezound(theyre right next to each other).
theres one thing im not-nostalgic except for the inc1 which was a soldier. it brought a tear to my eye when i found it dead.but for saving it, if it is a moisture problem, here in Birmingham(al not UK) we have smart hpone repair places all over the place, the only reason i didnt take it to one of those is verizon went way out of their way to ensure i wouldnt switch to sprint(which i threatened to do)

logan4434 said:
yep, even flashing using the pg32img method causes it to freeze, but ive editted my last post right at the same time you posted this so im fairly sure its useless to everyone now, but if someone wants a fancy paperweight its still up for grabs
and andy-shouldnt be much- it weighs almost nothing and with USPS flat rate shipping boxes maybe like 10$, ill take it by the ups store tomorrow when i go to pick up a case for my rezound(theyre right next to each other).
theres one thing im not-nostalgic except for the inc1 which was a soldier. it brought a tear to my eye when i found it dead.but for saving it, if it is a moisture problem, here in Birmingham(al not UK) we have smart hpone repair places all over the place, the only reason i didnt take it to one of those is verizon went way out of their way to ensure i wouldnt switch to sprint(which i threatened to do)
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i will try using my XTC clip on it lol see if it helps, ya never know

I came late and the post was already edited..... What happened??
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it no work-tried several times

Got any extra cases or accessories you wanna get rid of too?
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Good luck with the new phone.
Good on you for doing this...

logan4434 said:
SCIENCE!!!
Nah, it froze up after user "t" on voxer added me as a friend(most likely a fake hacker account). After pulling the battery it locks up on the HTC boot screen. when booted into recovery it seems the system and cache partitions will no longer mount. Verizon let me upgrade(as i was out of insurance replacements) early to a rezound(which appears to be following a similar S-OFF situation-whiny impatient do-nothings crying foul over the wait and then of course the wait itself)
anywho im willing to give it to anyone interested in research and development. you just have to pay shipping(if its even worth it lol). If no one wants its just gonna get chucked.
BTW-off topic but whilst i wait for my rezound to come in the mail a friends letting me use a motorola photon on his sprint account and that phone sucks. the camera button sticks(its like 2 weeks old)and it freezes every so often.
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This is exactly what my fiances phone is doing, but it got wet.
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knipp21 said:
This is exactly what my fiances phone is doing, but it got wet.
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yeah that why im thinking it was that tiny drop of coke that slid down the side of the can a drip right into the front speaker grill(note to self-dont leave the phone in your lap whilst drinking something)tried to blow it out, but probably just blew it further in.
edit:because it was only a drop and not much you can have it for your fiance, then take it to a smart phone repair shop. I dont know what the prices are around you, but here its only like 95$ to clean it out(if the screen has moisture damage they replace it for a hell of alot more,but this ones fine), being that its probably that drop causing a small short. If your wary id be happy to send some pics.
ddgarcia05 said:
Got any extra cases or accessories you wanna get rid of too?
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nope

logan4434 said:
yeah that why im thinking it was that tiny drop of coke that slid down the side of the can a drip right into the front speaker grill(note to self-dont leave the phone in your lap whilst drinking something)tried to blow it out, but probably just blew it further in.
edit:because it was only a drop and not much you can have it for your fiance, then take it to a smart phone repair shop. I dont know what the prices are around you, but here its only like 95$ to clean it out(if the screen has moisture damage they replace it for a hell of alot more,but this ones fine), being that its probably that drop causing a small short. If your wary id be happy to send some pics.
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That's one powerful drip.

yeah, you know lol, like when your drinking from the can and the slightest bit slips by and gets all over your nice white shirt-well it landed like bullseye on the speaker.-its either that or the hacker theory cause they both happened right before the phone went nuts

logan4434 said:
yeah, you know lol, like when your drinking from the can and the slightest bit slips by and gets all over your nice white shirt-well it landed like bullseye on the speaker.-its either that or the hacker theory cause they both happened right before the phone went nuts
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I bet it was that Carnivore got into your phone and devoured itself from within the motherboard...

Phone boots, qwerty keys light up, but no display, soft key or LED illumination

I've searched the forums for a while and haven't found an issue exactly like this..
At first my phone would boot and the soft keys would light up and the LED would shine while charging. Shortly after that, I had no display and no illumination whatsoever on my screen. I just disassembled the phone to make sure all of the bands and connecters are connected and they are fine. I have reason to believe the screen works because when I receive a call, i can press where I usually would to accept calls and it works.
I have done some research on getting a new digitizer, screen, ribbons, etc.. but it's just too costly to justify it seems.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated

warheed said:
I've searched the forums for a while and haven't found an issue exactly like this..
At first my phone would boot and the soft keys would light up and the LED would shine while charging. Shortly after that, I had no display and no illumination whatsoever on my screen. I just disassembled the phone to make sure all of the bands and connecters are connected and they are fine. I have reason to believe the screen works because when I receive a call, i can press where I usually would to accept calls and it works.
I have done some research on getting a new digitizer, screen, ribbons, etc.. but it's just too costly to justify it seems.
Any advice would be greatly appreciated
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Try to Odin stock
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You may have to go into sprint and ask for a new screen. That happened to me once and they replaced it and it worked fine ever since. I had water damage on mine though
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xboxfanj said:
You may have to go into sprint and ask for a new screen. That happened to me once and they replaced it and it worked fine ever since. I had water damage on mine though
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You can do that? Will they deny you if you're using a rooted phone or do you have to go back to stock first...

Sunchips said:
You can do that? Will they deny you if you're using a rooted phone or do you have to go back to stock first...
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Depends on where you go and who you get. The last time I went, the associate thought it was awesome that I have sense on my phone. If possible, Odin back though.

I did get around to blindly putting my phone into download mode and flashing the stock tar through odin.. I'm assuming the flash worked since I heard the stock boot/shutdown animation theme music accordingly.
Unfortunately the screen and the soft keys are still not illuminated. The QWERTY remains functional including backlighting.
My phone is no longer on any network, but do you think I could still take it up to a location and bs my way into getting at least a used equal or lesser value device?

Put it up on Fleabay as a clean ESN, broken screen phone and stop wasting our time while you try to scam Sprint.
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You're right, certainly not an ethical option. I'm more of a DIY person though, as I'm sure I could say the same for everyone else here.
Do you think it's the whole screen that needs to replaced? Ribbons and all? If so, do you know of a good source for me to purchase what I need

warheed said:
You're right, certainly not an ethical option. I'm more of a DIY person though, as I'm sure I could say the same for everyone else here.
Do you think it's the whole screen that needs to replaced? Ribbons and all? If so, do you know of a good source for me to purchase what I need
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Don't do it. I bought my Epic for $80 and replacement screen costs $70. AND I'm in China where electronic products and accessories should be cheap.
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[Q] Samsung Captivate Blank Display

Hello,
Captivate Glide i927 replaced cracked screen
I replaced the cracked screen assembly and installed a new ribbon. The lower lights (home, search, back button etc) work and also the keyboard lights. The ATT chime sound works too but the display does not light up when powered on.
Connected the phone after replacing ribbon/ screen to the comp for Kies to back up and it is saying the phone is locked. It is the lock code that you set to keep others from accessing. Since the display does not light, the correct code can not be placed in. Can someone please place a picture of the unlock screen mode here? The display touch pad works so if the position of the numbers can be acquired, this may help me to get the phone files accessed and reset hoping to get the display working.
The phone is not rooted and upgraded to the ICS as of October 2012.
Up $86 for the ribbon and new screen and the repair shops want $100 plus the cost of possible parts needed. Would like to try my best so this route can be avoided.
Cheers,
Robert

By now the phone SIM is locked out. I believe there is a way to reboot the phone through a computer?

mer80cedes said:
By now the phone SIM is locked out. I believe there is a way to reboot the phone through a computer?
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The only way I can think of is rebooting via adb. If you're not rooted (the "reboot" command in shell requires root, i don't know if "adb reboot" wants it), or haven't even turned on USB Debugging at all, then you're doomed.
However, since Odin-ing is not that hard (only requires several key pressing), you could try Odin in a custom recovery (or not, if you already have one), back your system up to external SD in tar or other formats, and then extract the data you want from the backed-up packages (I've done this with tar packages). If you ever need the screenshot of a particular version of recovery, ask again in this thread and I think we'll be more active (and easier) to help.
Sent from Samsung Captivate Glide @ CM10.1.2

AndyYan said:
The only way I can think of is rebooting via adb. If you're not rooted (the "reboot" command in shell requires root, i don't know if "adb reboot" wants it), or haven't even turned on USB Debugging at all, then you're doomed.
However, since Odin-ing is not that hard (only requires several key pressing), you could try Odin in a custom recovery (or not, if you already have one), back your system up to external SD in tar or other formats, and then extract the data you want from the backed-up packages (I've done this with tar packages). If you ever need the screenshot of a particular version of recovery, ask again in this thread and I think we'll be more active (and easier) to help.
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Thank you AndYan.
This Captivate has only been upgraded to the Sandwich version. Non-rooted nor modified in any other way. The only reason to remove the files is due to it having solar cell module prototype designs and concepts on it (Reason why it can not be shipped out for professional repairs). Since most of the information was wrote on paper, it's best to just wipe the phone out completely to get it back to working condition for use again.
This is quite interesting learning about programming and such since I have never done this before. Just like building cars, took many many years to do and this programming is just another cool thing to learn about

It takes a special knowledge and experience to understand the programming of Odin and phones which I do not comprehend, I will be destroying the motherboard with a hammer and tossing it out. It is way too much to understand how to set coding and such. Best off investing in another phone and moving on.
The parts that will be saved if anyone can use will be the ribbon strip and also brand new display screen.
Paid $86 for the display and will sell for $75 free shipping with insurance.
Ribbon strip will be $20 free shipping with insurance. If both are wanted $95 free shipping.
Since I do love the Captivate so much another will be purchased.

mer80cedes said:
It takes a special knowledge and experience to understand the programming of Odin and phones which I do not comprehend, I will be destroying the motherboard with a hammer and tossing it out. It is way too much to understand how to set coding and such. Best off investing in another phone and moving on.
The parts that will be saved if anyone can use will be the ribbon strip and also brand new display screen.
Paid $86 for the display and will sell for $75 free shipping with insurance.
Ribbon strip will be $20 free shipping with insurance. If both are wanted $95 free shipping.
Since I do love the Captivate so much another will be purchased.
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You mean you smashed your Glide?! God, I just had mine 5 days ago. Anyway, hope my tip still helps when you're in any smaller trouble next time.

AndyYan said:
You mean you smashed your Glide?! God, I just had mine 5 days ago. Anyway, hope my tip still helps when you're in any smaller trouble next time.
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No way lol! Only the mother board will be smashed to save the data on it from being used again. All of the other parts will be saved since another Captivate will be getting purchased.

mer80cedes said:
No way lol! Only the mother board will be smashed to save the data on it from being used again. All of the other parts will be saved since another Captivate will be getting purchased.
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That's still sad to see. Why not just solder off the storage chip, somehow destroy it, and find a similar model chip to replace it?
EDIT: I guess the Samsung-proprietary partition table and some data on special partitions like EFS are not reconstructible on a blank new chip. Then you did the easiest choice possible.
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Is it cool for someone to take a photo of their Captivate i927 when it is at the display for the personal unlock code (PIN). It will make a good reference point enough to possibly use my touch screen to unlock my cell to reboot. Just have to get the location of the numbers and also the OK button.

After many hours research (great learning experience), the phone was done on master reset without needing to see the screen. At least now it can be sent out to get repaired without the personal information being potentially taken by another.
Done

mer80cedes said:
After many hours research (great learning experience), the phone was done on master reset without needing to see the screen. At least now it can be sent out to get repaired without the personal information being potentially taken by another.
Done
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Woohoo, so no need to smash anything? You did an awesome deed to keep a nice phone alive