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[q] super bricked!

I've been rooting and working with custom roms for a long time (couple of years at least). I started with WinMo, and since I got my Evo the day they came out, I've been doing it in Android. I can also use ADB, and can typically recover from pretty much any problem on my Evo. (not claiming to be an expert) HOWEVER...
A couple days ago I loaded the latest Fresh ROM on my phone, and ran out the door while it was loading. Got in my car, the Evo started to reboot after applying the ROM, and zzzZZZIP! The thing went dead. And I mean REAL DEAD. The led which usually shows the charge level as not lit. I pulled the battery and tried to turn it on after replacing it. No go. Nothing when holding down vol while pressing power... nothing. When I got home I tried a wall charger, still no light, no boot, no drive with !, nothing. When the wife got home, tried her Evo's battery... same kind of nothing. USB connection to PC gives no adb access, no fastboot access,... you guessed it, nothing.
Sprint doesn't replace it if you didn't buy the warranty. Called HTC, of course they'll happily replace it, as long as it wasn't rooted. So I have a two part question.
Firstly, because I want my Evo back NOW! No, two days ago! LOL Is there a way to fix it?
Second, if I send it in, is there a way for them to know I rooted it?
Your help would be greatly appreciated.

Have you tried a different battery? That one may be fried. Just a suggestion.
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fdb8231 said:
Have you tried a different battery? That one may be fried. Just a suggestion.
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Thanks for the quick response! Yep, tried that. I thought maybe I had one of the USB port issues that didn't allow me to charge the phone, but alas, my wife's fully charged battery couldn't boot it (or do anything), and my battery worked fine in her Evo.
I also disassembled the phone to check solder connections both on the battery connector and the usb port... both looked totally fine.

Well, if you pay insurance on it you could always accidentally lose it and report it lost or stolen.... that's what I would do, but that's just me....
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Yeah, I'll weigh my options. I think I'll send it to HTC first. I really don't think they can read the internal memory in this condition. I think it is probably fried. It is too late for the Sprint TPE (warranty), but but I might be able to finagle a squaretrade warranty. It will take time though. I thought about having a friend list it in eBay as a buy it now for what a new one costs, buy it from him (he give me my money back), and wait whatever period squaretrade requires, and file a claim. They're great, and I should have bought a squaretrade warranty from day 1. I've had it on the two phones prior and had to use it on one of them. They're easy to deal with and cheaper than any other options. Plus, its more flexible since they don't replace the phone, they issue you a refund for it (which would give me the option of switching phones, not that I would).

mrsato said:
I've been rooting and working with custom roms for a long time (couple of years at least). I started with WinMo, and since I got my Evo the day they came out, I've been doing it in Android. I can also use ADB, and can typically recover from pretty much any problem on my Evo. (not claiming to be an expert) HOWEVER...
A couple days ago I loaded the latest Fresh ROM on my phone, and ran out the door while it was loading. Got in my car, the Evo started to reboot after applying the ROM, and zzzZZZIP! The thing went dead. And I mean REAL DEAD. The led which usually shows the charge level as not lit. I pulled the battery and tried to turn it on after replacing it. No go. Nothing when holding down vol while pressing power... nothing. When I got home I tried a wall charger, still no light, no boot, no drive with !, nothing. When the wife got home, tried her Evo's battery... same kind of nothing. USB connection to PC gives no adb access, no fastboot access,... you guessed it, nothing.
Sprint doesn't replace it if you didn't buy the warranty. Called HTC, of course they'll happily replace it, as long as it wasn't rooted. So I have a two part question.
Firstly, because I want my Evo back NOW! No, two days ago! LOL Is there a way to fix it?
Second, if I send it in, is there a way for them to know I rooted it?
Your help would be greatly appreciated.
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Are you certain the battery isn't fried? Also, make sure the SD card is fully seated and secure. With the battery OUT, connect your EVO to it's power supply and then reinsert the battery. Sometimes, after doing so, you will see the LED light up. If not, try again. If it still does not, try getting to the Hboot screen by pressing the down volume button while also pressing the power button.

I am pretty sure I tried that. I pulled battery while plugged in, put battery back, no difference. The first thing I thought was that it was a bad battery connection, because the phone has never worked with the battery out, but plugged in. The battery MUST be in to work. So I disassembled it to check the battery and USB connection solder points, and they look fine.
I called a reputable mobile phone tech and he said he has seen this a few times with rooted Android devices. He said he doesn't think they will be able to read the internal memory, or probably won't go through the effort it would require to (pull the internal memory out and put it in a reader).

Just pull all your root files off the SD card cause that is a dead give away that it is rooted.
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Insurance
Going through HTC is going to be a waste of time. Their turn around time is 30 days... And thats if they dont discover the rooting and therefore actually replace it.
Your best bet is sucking it up and paying the $100 deductible for Asurion insurance... If you order on their website www.phoneclaim.com they will overnight for free. However I have heard of it being back-ordered, in which case you will either wait, or be one of the lucky guys who gets a brand new one.
In regards to them seeing your internal memory, I would say its 50/50. They can recover that sort of stuff, but at the same time, HTC is way more lenient with rooting/mods than other manufacturers.
Good luck

toddlmr said:
Just pull all your root files off the SD card cause that is a dead give away that it is rooted.
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As it turns out, when you send your phone to HTC, you have to pull your battery cover, battery, microSD card, and any other "accessories" you have off, and keep them. They only want the phone without any of these items. I asked the guy, "you don't want me to ship the batter OR even the cover with the phone, but separate?" He said, "no, they are yours to keep. if you send them to us, they will not be returned." LOL! If they replace the phone, I'll have spare parts! Yaaay! I left my screen protector on it, in case they can fix it, they won't scratch it. Love my Evo y'all!

Yah the same exact thing happened to me when i first got my evo (the first day it came out). Absolutely no sign of life, but got it through best buy and just went back with no insurance or anything and she gave me another one on the spot.

Yeah if it won't even power, they won't bother. You are straight unless by some miracle they actually get it working.
TEP is a godsend.
I'm supremely surprised no one has popped in to say "WRONG SECTION AMAGADWTFBBQ!"

sekigah84 said:
I'm supremely surprised no one has popped in to say "WRONG SECTION AMAGADWTFBBQ!"
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That would be so barbaric and elementary - so many capitals and so much hostility!
To the OP:
Wrong section, jackhole.
It will probably cost you $35 without the insurance. If one store doesn't work, try another.

Yeah, just smash it on the floor and claim a new one
$100.00 ..thats it.

Where to post this?
I had a feeling this was the wrong place to post this, but not sure where else to do it. General maybe?
SORRY! ;-P
I wouldn't have a problem if an admin moved it to the right place.

Do did you make a decision to send it in?

teh roxxorz said:
Do did you make a decision to send it in?
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Yeah, with fingers and toes crossed.

Well, I don't think they'll find out. Cuz I'm in engineering, and they could try to overvolt the phone [in an attempt to turn it on] but too much a risk of frying the circuits. Also no sdcard so they can't see your files...and way too much work to disassemble...so I think you're good.

Thanks man, that really is reassuring. I'm kind of on pins and needles over this. I can't afford ANYTHING, much less to buy another phone (I was laid off Jan 1).
I've been desperately trying to learn to program in Java, for Android. Both should provide me with more flexibility financially. I'd rather work as a contractor than FTE any day, but sysadmin type work is hard to find these days. I didn't expect to enjoy programming as much as I am, which is a pleasant surprise. Java isn't so hard. ;-)
I hope to get my Evo replaced under warranty. Then I hope to get more income by the time the new Evo 3D comes out! Not to sideline this thread, but what do you guys think of that thing? I'm also wondering if the new Evo View 4G would work as a phone replacement, just using Google Voice to replace cell service. Most new cars have bluetooth built in, and otherwise can use a bt headset (even stereo headphone type), so you never have to hold it to your head anyway.

Sorry, I guess I spaced posting my results. The did not know out had been rooted. They just replaced the motherboard and sent out back.
Unfortunately, they downgraded me from hw version 003 to 002. There were also two soft key lights out and I sent it back. Even though I complained about the version difference they still put another v2 in it. I called US public relations and came close to getting a hwy v3 board in but in the end it didn't happen. All they really care is that they made the device work.
Moral of the story is, if your Evo is dead-dead, send it to htc, and now you know what to expect.

broken lcd screen, need to unlock and wipe data to sell

My bro broke his S4 lcd screen 2 times within 1 month. We already had it repaired once that costed over $250 to replace the screen. Somehow tmobile f'ed up when we bought the phones and they did not add insurance to ours plans even though they said over the phone over 5 times that it was on all of phones. We are trying to cut our losses and now we have to sell all of our phones and rebuy them to get the insurance that we requested in the first place. My bro's lcd is still broken and now we are trying to sell it. How can we sell my bro's s4 with the broken screen for the most money so we can throw less money into the pit. I was thinking if we got it factory unlocked we could probably sell it for $100 more. His screen wont turn on at all. It seems that everything is working except the screen. Are there any ways to unlock the phone, back up everything and erase everything before we sell it with a non functional screen? How much do you think that could fetch on ebay and do you think it will sell for less once the note 3 comes out? Thanks.

Have you tried hooking to PC via USB cable to see if you can access the sd card?
That way you can get pictures off the phone and delete the one on the phone.
If you have "wipe device" enable in Google settings you could wipe all the data from the phone before selling it. Without a working screen it's kinda hard to do much. Does the screen still react to touch or is it completely dead?

If the touch screen still works buy an mhl cable and connect to your TV so u can navigate to setting and do a reset or even unlock it.
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Thank you for all of your suggestions.
baseballfanz said:
Have you tried hooking to PC via USB cable to see if you can access the sd card?
That way you can get pictures off the phone and delete the one on the phone.
If you have "wipe device" enable in Google settings you could wipe all the data from the phone before selling it. Without a working screen it's kinda hard to do much. Does the screen still react to touch or is it completely dead?
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Is the wipe device setting need to be turned on or is it on by default? How does it work/activate? He somehow needs to get some information from an app. Is there a way that I could just copy the data while connected to a PC and somehow load it on my phone so he can get the info that he needs. I have not used Samsung Kies, do you think that could help me out in any way? Are there ways to control the phone through a command prompt while connected to a PC, his phone is rooted? If somehow I could do a nandroid backup that would help things a lot. If I can't wipe the phone through googles settings should I just delete as many files on the internal sd I can without corrupting the phone. I don't know which files are crucial without breaking the phone. Where should I start? Thank you.
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If the touch screen still works buy an mhl cable and connect to your TV so u can navigate to setting and do a reset or even unlock it.
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I do have an mhl adapter but I do not think that the screen is responsive. However, the soft keys are reacting. I do not have the mhl adapter with me right now to test it out. Doesn't the screen need to be first unlocked for it to show up on the TV? Lucky, I did not set it up with a complex unlock method. However it still could be very difficult to unlock the screen. If this does not work out do I have any other options? What about the value for resale? Should I try to sell it before the unveiling of the note 3 or do you guys think that the value will not drop much?
I noticed that the screen that was used to replace the original broken screen was a little less vibrant and clear than mine. The repair guy swears that the screen was made by Samsung. Are there other companys now making screens for the S4 that are inferior to the originals? Could that be why the screen broke so soon? Thank you all for helping me.

Wipe device feature would have to be turn on by the user (not default)
https://www.google.com/android/devicemanager

[Q] Cracked screen and no access to files

Howdy,
My wife's screen got shattered the other day. It turns on, but does not respond to touch at all. When I plug it in via USB to a PC it does not pull up as a drive (only charges). The phone is not rooted, runs stock Sprint firmware, and for some reason I am unable to get into the recovery mode (fast boot or whatever). I was thinking I could buy a female usb to micro usb male, plug in a usb mouse and use that to enable mass storage, but it looks like that isn't supported from what I could tell. Is that correct?
If it isn't supported, any other ideas to try to get data off of the phone?
Thanks!

Is adb debugging checked?
-Whiplashh
"I think a ducks opinion of me is heavily influenced by whether I have bread or not."

Whiplashh said:
Is adb debugging checked?
-Whiplashh
"I think a ducks opinion of me is heavily influenced by whether I have bread or not."
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It is not. I was under the impression that it required root which this phone does not have.

Coldfirex said:
It is not. I was under the impression that it required root which this phone does not have.
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It doesn't. It is in developer settings.
You can not in no way get into bootloader/recovery?
-Whiplashh
"I think a ducks opinion of me is heavily influenced by whether I have bread or not."

For some reason no. When I try I just get the LG bootscreen and then it cycles as long as I am holding down the vol and power button. Works just fine on my LGoG which is rooted, etc.

Should Plan A not work...
I don't mean to get ahead of you, and I don't know of a way to retrieve your information without being able to select "Connect as Media Device" on your touchscreen...but if you plan on getting the same replacement device from Asurion (Sprint Insurance), you could very easily do a motherboard swap between your defective phone and your replacement.
Assuming you file a claim online or at your local Sprint store, just be sure (if asked) to NOT have your replacement device be sent pre-activated. That way, when your motherboards get swapped between the two devices, your original ESN will still be active in its new body. All of your original data (pictures, contacts, SMS, music, etc) will be there. Device works just like it did before, and you'll be sending back the new motherboard with your broken screen. You get all new parts, like your charging port, speakerphone, LCD\TSP, etc but you get to retain all of your information. Asurion doesn't care what ESN they get back, as long as it's the model\brand device they believe it's supposed to be (Optimus G for an Optimus G).
I've been repairing phones at a Sprint store for over 3 years, so if you cannot get your information retrieved and want to try swapping motherboards, please let me know. The swap would take you roughly 45 minutes if you've never done it before, or bring it to a local Sprint store. I'm sure there are also plenty of others on this site who could help as well, but good luck!
Andrew

Coldfirex said:
Howdy,
My wife's screen got shattered the other day. It turns on, but does not respond to touch at all. When I plug it in via USB to a PC it does not pull up as a drive (only charges). The phone is not rooted, runs stock Sprint firmware, and for some reason I am unable to get into the recovery mode (fast boot or whatever). I was thinking I could buy a female usb to micro usb male, plug in a usb mouse and use that to enable mass storage, but it looks like that isn't supported from what I could tell. Is that correct?
If it isn't supported, any other ideas to try to get data off of the phone?
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Ha, I just broke mine and had the same problem...I had ADB Debugging checked which allowed me to plug my device in and use a windows program called "MyPhoneExplorer" to bring up the OG screen on my desktop "remote control essentially" and navigate thru my phone like it was in my hand via mouse. Anyway, since you don't have debugging on you might be SOL. There may be other programs that are similar that will work without " Debugging " on. The only other thing that is relatively inexpensive you can do is just buy a new screen or an old OG someone is selling that has a good screen and LCD... I bought one, in good working condition and with a good ESN for $72 a couple days ago....Just swapped out the guts....and Whalla :laugh:
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Thanks for the last resort. I dont think I am that brave though.

I had the same issue without insurance and had to replace screen digitizer. It's not that hard off you can follow instructions and have a hair dryer.lol
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[Q] Working device, dead screen

A friend recently sent me her "retired" Galaxy Note II. She replaced it because at some point the screen stopped turning on altogether, but she still wanted me to see if I can salvage it somehow. I've tried, with no luck, and searches on the topic don't seem to suggest any solutions other than the fact that it may be a hardware issue. While I can accept this possibility, I'm really hoping that it is not the case because at this point I don't think it would be worth investing the time and money to buy the parts, learn how to replace them, and attempt it. If anyone has any ideas I'd be very grateful. Here are the symptoms:
The display NEVER turns on. It is in a constant state of pitch black.
The sounds are working fine. When I get an email, for example, it notifies me.
The hardware button works
The software buttons do not work
Upon connecting the device to a monitor, keyboard and mouse, the monitor works, however the keyboard and mouse do not. (I use the same monitor, keyboard and mouse with my Galaxy S4 and they all work fine.)
Touch interaction with the screen is working properly. Using the monitor, I am able to use the device, but it is very tricky, as it is simply a matter of trial and error. I tap on a black screen and have to look on the monitor to see if I hit my target.
The device is on the stock TouchWiz that came with it, and is not rooted. Since I am pretty sure that doing any mods without a working display would be more difficult than I could tolerate, I opted to take an OTA instead, despite the fact that it may make rooting and flashing ROM's impossible in the future. I hope I didn't screw myself by doing that but I had to make an executive decision. Here is what I've tried so far:
Factory reset
Update to the latest software (Android 4.3)
Pulled battery, held power button for 10 seconds while battery was out, replaced battery and powered device on.
I'd greatly appreciate any suggestions. Ideally, here is what I'd like to happen: get the display to turn on and restore functionality to the software buttons. This may not be possible without replacing some hardware components, which as I mentioned is not an option, but if it is I'd really like to give it a shot. Thanks in advance for any suggestions.

My initial guess would be a digitizer failure...
A phone drop or water damage can easily render a phone dead...
You have the option of replacing the screen and digitizer at a cost of about $225.00 for the needed parts...but it's still no guarantee that the fix would be 100% successful...
My honest opinion is this...
Given the unknown history of the device...you are taking an expensive chance in attempting a repair...
And given the age of the device....the repair if performed by a qualified repair service would push the cost very near to the overall value of the device...
For the same dollars spent...you can obtain any number of working devices and save yourself the hassle...and the unknowns associated with a repair that will likely work...but again may not...
You are of course free to attempt the repair...but....
The skill level needed to perform a "proper" repair of the device is high...and you would need to study up on the process extensively before cracking open that case...
If I were in your situation...the choice would be to sell the device for parts....and put that cash back into a working device...
Others will chime in I'm sure with their recommendations....but I would choose to move on...g
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Courtesy of our amazing developers...

gregsarg said:
My initial guess would be a digitizer failure...
A phone drop or water damage can easily render a phone dead...
You have the option of replacing the screen and digitizer at a cost of about $225.00 for the needed parts...but it's still no guarantee that the fix would be 100% successful...
My honest opinion is this...
Given the unknown history of the device...you are taking an expensive chance in attempting a repair...
And given the age of the device....the repair if performed by a qualified repair service would push the cost very near to the overall value of the device...
For the same dollars spent...you can obtain any number of working devices and save yourself the hassle...and the unknowns associated with a repair that will likely work...but again may not...
You are of course free to attempt the repair...but....
The skill level needed to perform a "proper" repair of the device is high...and you would need to study up on the process extensively before cracking open that case...
If I were in your situation...the choice would be to sell the device for parts....and put that cash back into a working device...
Others will chime in I'm sure with their recommendations....but I would choose to move on...g
Sent from my NOTE 2.750...
Courtesy of our amazing developers...
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Thanks for the reply, and sorry I didn't see it sooner (I always forget to subscribe to threads). I figured this was probably not a fixable problem (at least not easily/economically fixable). But I wanted to see if there were any quick fixes I could try, and it sounds like there aren't. With that said, if anyone does want it for parts I'd let it go for a reasonable price (considering the damage and lack of functionality) through Swappa. (Sorry if I'm not supposed to make these kinds of offers here, if that is the case I'll gladly remove it.)

[Q] tried flasing rom and phone is dead..

i got a samsung gs3 yesterday, i loved everything but battery life, lastnight i used George Holtz's "towel root" and rooted my phone, added super user and rom toolbox, upgraded my recovery to clockwork mod basic, and proceded to flash to "flashingdroid version 2.2" it went thru everything and installed the rom, when it tried to reboot, it went black... now it does nothing, computer tries to recognize it, abut i cant get it to download mode, and i cant get it into recovery mode... it does not show charge picture when plugged in and if i take the battery out, plug it in, then insert the battery i get a red light... PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!

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i got a samsung gs3 yesterday, i loved everything but battery life, lastnight i used George Holtz's "towel root" and rooted my phone, added super user and rom toolbox, upgraded my recovery to clockwork mod basic, and proceded to flash to "flashingdroid version 2.2" it went thru everything and installed the rom, when it tried to reboot, it went black... now it does nothing, computer tries to recognize it, abut i cant get it to download mode, and i cant get it into recovery mode... it does not show charge picture when plugged in and if i take the battery out, plug it in, then insert the battery i get a red light... PLEASE HELP!!!!!!!
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What model is your phone? You flashed a i9300 ROM, this is the sub-forum for the i747.

its the i747, i before looking today never knew there were more than 1 model of the GS3, is it possible to fix it?

This may help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2549068

audit13 said:
This may help:
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2549068
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my problem is my phone does NOT vibrate when power button is pressed, it isnt doing ANYTHING at ALL, the red charging light only comes on when battery is left out and the phone is plugged in, light turns off after a minute or so of the battery being installed, to me it seems like less rom flash related, and more failure in the board, but im not good at this stuff so im probably wrong, i bought a verizon one (i535) for 50 bucks (pretty banged up touchscreen is cracked in several places i got it without a back cover,but it works,) to get me by but i miss my 4g on straight talk =( i wish i had just left it alone, it was clean just 1 crack in the touch screen wires ans such for lcdanddigitizer got cut by accient while trying to modify midframe for verizon board, i sure as hell cant afford the att version for a while 150-260 for a decent i747, is it possible that a JTAG service would be able to bring it to life or even one of those dongles to force recovery?

noobbrokes3 said:
my problem is my phone does NOT vibrate when power button is pressed, it isnt doing ANYTHING at ALL, the red charging light only comes on when battery is left out and the phone is plugged in, light turns off after a minute or so of the battery being installed, to me it seems like less rom flash related, and more failure in the board, but im not good at this stuff so im probably wrong, i bought a verizon one (i535) for 50 bucks (pretty banged up touchscreen is cracked in several places i got it without a back cover,but it works,) to get me by but i miss my 4g on straight talk =( i wish i had just left it alone, it was clean just 1 crack in the touch screen wires ans such for lcdanddigitizer got cut by accient while trying to modify midframe for verizon board, i sure as hell cant afford the att version for a while 150-260 for a decent i747, is it possible that a JTAG service would be able to bring it to life or even one of those dongles to force recovery?
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It could be a board failure but it happened right after you flashed the ROM which leads me to believe it is software related.
A dongle is not going to help since the phone won't even power up. A jtag service would be your best and quickest option. You should try and find a shop that will guarantee to revive the phone or you pay nothing.
This might help with your current phone: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/how-to-make-your-verizon-galaxy-s-iii-a-world-phone/

noobbrokes3 said:
my problem is my phone does NOT vibrate when power button is pressed, it isnt doing ANYTHING at ALL, the red charging light only comes on when battery is left out and the phone is plugged in, light turns off after a minute or so of the battery being installed, to me it seems like less rom flash related, and more failure in the board, but im not good at this stuff so im probably wrong, i bought a verizon one (i535) for 50 bucks (pretty banged up touchscreen is cracked in several places i got it without a back cover,but it works,) to get me by but i miss my 4g on straight talk =( i wish i had just left it alone, it was clean just 1 crack in the touch screen wires ans such for lcdanddigitizer got cut by accient while trying to modify midframe for verizon board, i sure as hell cant afford the att version for a while 150-260 for a decent i747, is it possible that a JTAG service would be able to bring it to life or even one of those dongles to force recovery?
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Flashing an i9300 rom is guaranteed to hard brick the device and cause exactly what you described. If you follow the instructions in the thread linked in an above post it probably has a 90% chance of fixing it.
I am 99% certain it is not a hardware failure. Others have done the exact same thing and were able to fix it by using the instructions in that thread.

audit13 said:
It could be a board failure but it happened right after you flashed the ROM which leads me to believe it is software related.
A dongle is not going to help since the phone won't even power up. A jtag service would be your best and quickest option. You should try and find a shop that will guarantee to revive the phone or you pay nothing.
This might help with your current phone: http://www.xda-developers.com/android/how-to-make-your-verizon-galaxy-s-iii-a-world-phone/
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i found one on ebay, full refund short of a 5 dollar shipping cost for return shipping, once i have money that i can spend ill sure as hell be giving it a shot

Or you can attempt to fix it for free.....but I suppose that is up to you.

DocHoliday77 said:
Or you can attempt to fix it for free.....but I suppose that is up to you.
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either way its gonna cost me a little cash, i dont have a 16 gig sd card, forgive me for being so noob but the sd card trick CAN work for my case?? i know for a fact i cant do anythingto my phone right now as it wont even power on, but if you BELIEVE it will work ill gove it a try

Unless you updated with the kk ota, you are probably on 4.3 firmware. I cannot guarantee it will work, but I believe the chances are pretty good that it will.
Just remember, if it doesn't work, dont give up on the first try. Many have had to run through the process several times before it would actually boot up again.
The only other tip I can think to give is to make sure you buy a decent sd card. It doesn't have to be top of the line, but there are tons of fake ones out there that would be less likely to work. If you can, try to buy one from an authorized dealer for whatever brand you are considering. This greatly reduces the chance of getting a bad card.

DocHoliday77 said:
Unless you updated with the kk ota, you are probably on 4.3 firmware. I cannot guarantee it will work, but I believe the chances are pretty good that it will.
Just remember, if it doesn't work, dont give up on the first try. Many have had to run through the process several times before it would actually boot up again.
The only other tip I can think to give is to make sure you buy a decent sd card. It doesn't have to be top of the line, but there are tons of fake ones out there that would be less likely to work. If you can, try to buy one from an authorized dealer for whatever brand you are considering. This greatly reduces the chance of getting a bad card.
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4.0.x was the last firmware, i never got to update it. i bought a PNY 16gb microSD HC class 4, it was 25 bucks at the local drug store, i was hoping for a class 6 - 10 but i believe it is a good quality card, maybe you would know better?

I won't lie, I am not a big fan of PNY, but as long as its the real thing, I think it should work. Class 6 or better is recommended, but it has worked on class 4 cards too. At this point, the only thing left to do is give it a shot. Good luck!