Create Boot loop/hang situation - Desire Q&A, Help & Troubleshooting

Hi,
Normally I would not condone this kind of behaviour, but here goes:
My brand new desire dropped out of my pocket while getting out of the car after only having it for 5 days or so. I was so gutted I almost cried like a girl in front of my Mrs over a phone! I bought it SIM free for £400 which was even more painful. Thankfully it landed butter side up and there was only very slight damage to the rubberised casing at the bottom.
I want to fake a fault so I can send it back and swap it under the 28 days rule. Has anyone got any idea how I would fake a bootloop/hang? I thought about flashing lots of different roms over the top of one another without wiping. Obviously using the fakeflash method rather than Unrevoked perma-recovery.
I guess there would be something I can do via ADB to a rooted ROM that's a little more precise?
I'm so ashamed I'm resorting to this, but let's face it, these companies make loads of money from us. They'll just send it back to HTC and it will be reconditioned.
TIA!

lmao! this made my day
just put it in the microwave, this will stop it from turning on
send it back saying it one day it got really hot and then it wouldnt turn on again

This is a good way of doing this and is quite reproducible for me any how create a custom scene or two, get a lot of data in the contacts storage by linking accounts to Facebook etc install a home replace ment such as launcher pro beta then go to settings and click clear data in the contacts storage, then in the settings go to htc sense and click clear defaults l, hope fully now when you press home it will ask you to choose a default home again then choose sense, it should now be force closing on ever 5 seconds.
You can fix this by using the search button to search for settings and factory restore, all the while getting a force close message, then factory restore.
I don't condone this action, but it works for me every time.
Good luck lol.
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cgrec92 said:
lmao! this made my day
just put it in the microwave, this will stop it from turning on
send it back saying it one day it got really hot and then it wouldnt turn on again
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You put a partially metal object into a microwave! Although you managed to destroy the electrical components of the phone, you could also potentially do damage to the microwave itself and set your house on fire!
Real smart

cgrec92 said:
lmao! this made my day
just put it in the microwave, this will stop it from turning on
send it back saying it one day it got really hot and then it wouldnt turn on again
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Yeh, cheers for that. I was thinking more along the lines of something that was reversible should they refuse to exchange the phone. Your suggestion is a little more permanent than I'd like.

Oh grow up and just be more careful with the phone next time. No need to resort to fraud.

Tander_ZA said:
Oh grow up and just be more careful with the phone next time. No need to resort to fraud.
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Or buy a case
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Haha - well it is expensive to get a phone r3paired, i just payed 285 EUR to get my screen changed on my Desire

Technically it wouldn't be fraud, if you created a boot loop that shouldn't exsist. The old fit for purpose and as described law in the UK would cover this. Know the law own the law imop lol.
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naw its not fraud...

28 day rule
PS: There is actually no 28 day rule; this is a total myth, it is merely a policy offered by some of the large electriocal retailers to get one over their competitors.

rchatburn said:
Technically it wouldn't be fraud, if you created a boot loop that shouldn't exsist. The old fit for purpose and as described law in the UK would cover this. Know the law own the law imop lol.
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SiL3nTKiLL said:
naw its not fraud...
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Sorry guys, it's fraud, either way you look at it.
Firstly, by inducing the boot up loop, using modified ROMs etc, you're voiding the warranty. You're then getting HTC to replace the phone for you under false pretense = Fraud.
Like someone suggested - buy a case for it.

MasDroid said:
You put a partially metal object into a microwave! Although you managed to destroy the electrical components of the phone, you could also potentially do damage to the microwave itself and set your house on fire!
Real smart
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and then claim on your house insurance.

Related

HELP! I'm starting to cry!

Just got up, and didn't realise that My beloved Desire was on the floor, stood on it with my heel and it broke!! Literally just now!
It has a clockworkmod and it is rooted with NeoPhyTe 5.0.
Is there any way of unrooting without using the screen?!
When I turn it on it has lots of little green dots and sometimes lines... so is it possible?! please answer quick!!
Turn it on, wait for it to 'boot up' and then run the RUU your ROM came with...be it Vodafone or WWE
If that doesn't work cause you can't select HTC Sync yu may have to try and find the official ZIP file for your handset and try running that...
!PANDA said:
Just got up, and didn't realise that My beloved Desire was on the floor, stood on it with my heel and it broke!! Literraly just now!
I has a clockworkmod and it is rooted with NeoPhyTe 5.0.
Is there any way of unrooting without using the screen?!
When I turn it on it has lots of little green dots and sometimes lnes... so is it possible?! please answer quick!!
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if your claiming on you're insurance your is not affected by the software as you are claiming for physical damage not a warranty issue
except It didn't have insurance, my sister just activated it back again and am waiting another 40 days to not make it suspicious, "It got stolen!" cheers guys!
but I am still gonna miss it during the waiting period! ;/
!PANDA said:
exept I didn't have insuyrance, my sis just activated it back again and am waiting another 40 days to not make it suspicious, It got stolen! cheers guys!
but I am still gonna miss it during the waiting period! ;/
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If you're going to claim its stolen to the insurance company, won't you need a crime number etc..
ok I recommend you remove the comment from the site, just in case
ductions said:
If you're going to claim its stolen to the insurance company, won't you need a crime number etc..
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nope, broke my nokia twice already and got 2 new devices instead of them fixing it, as they were both hacked and has a custom ROM (bricked them both, My first try at it!)
I know its nor really fair, but then again think of the goverment...
Hmm insurance fraud...
My thoughts exactly. You broke the phone by not taking care of it. Deal with it, buy a new one and put it under normal insurance for accidental damage.
psycop said:
Hmm insurance fraud...
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I'm as well not a fan of insurance fraud, and you could get in trouble, but well i shouldn't care, but i was wondering why the hell you would want to replace the firmware with the original then, as it makes no difference? So why the original question?
And so all our premiums go up.
al89nut said:
And so all our premiums go up.
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Indeed - it's this sort of thing that really annoys me.
Insurance "works" because most of the people who pay their premiums don't claim. When you get people like the OP, who take out insurance after the fact because they need to claim, it just makes it so much more expensive for those of us who aren't perpetrating insurance fraud!
Regards,
Dave
Yes, I don't know what's thicker. Standing on your phone, claiming insurance within such a short period of taking it out (you'll be on a watchlist), or writing about it on here.
Take your pick, you're a **** whichever way you look at it.
Quarter to four pm in the uk? And you just got up? do you work nights?
But anyway, bad luck dude!
astromark said:
Yes, I don't know what's thicker. Standing on your phone, claiming insurance within such a short period of taking it out (you'll be on a watchlist), or writing about it on here.
Take your pick, you're a **** whichever way you look at it.
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+1
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Posting in a fail thread.

[Q] Make phone "defective" via software mod?

Hey guys,
You all are true genius', so I will ask you all for your help/opinion.
I don't have insurance on my Incredible, because I bought it second hand, and replaced my Eris with it. Verizon won't insure the phone because it wasn't brought through them. However, If i can prove that the phone is defective on it's own accord, ie via software, maybe they will swap it.
**Mod Edit - Warranty Fraud Comments Removed** That way when I show it to them, they would have to default swap it. They would probably try and do a factory reset, but that would keep the same rooted rom, right? Not sure how that works.
Maybe i'm just being silly, and can just pay for what ever the repair is...
That is something called fraud. I don't think you're going to get much help with that
That's rather dishonest, wouldn't you say?
Sorry, I was really upset when I woke up and posted that..anyway I can have this thread deleted please? Rather embarassing, sorry, I'm just really upset i've never had a smartphone break on me
So.... what's wrong with it?
Phone works fine, screen just shattered. I was showing it off to a bunch of Apple people and demonstrating why it ran circles around the iPhone. Set it down on my lap, and then some drunk kid knocked into my chair and it faceplanted onto the floor.
So..cracked screen :-/
1) warranty only covers phones without physical damage
2) drunk kid owes you a phone
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W4LLY said:
Phone works fine, screen just shattered. I was showing it off to a bunch of Apple people and demonstrating why it ran circles around the iPhone. Set it down on my lap, and then some drunk kid knocked into my chair and it faceplanted onto the floor.
So..cracked screen :-/
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That kid would either have a bloody nose or would of payed for my phone in my case
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lol. Yah Verizon could care less if the phone is defective if it has a giant cracked screen. Obviously they would think that the damage to the phone affect the internals of it or something along those lines.
Not sure how you'll get a kid, who involuntarily bumped into you (at a party I'm assuming if the guy was drunk) to pay for your phone, but good luck tracking him down now. Also, probably not a great idea to have your phone sitting on your lap at a place with hard flooring while people are drunk. Put the phone in your pocket or keep it held in your hand.
I lol'd that you broke your phone trying to show up some iPhone users.
1) warranty only covers phones without physical damage
2) drunk kid owes you a phone
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Not true. If you pay for insurance thru Verizon it absolutely covers physical damage, lost, etc. Manufactured warranty would only cover if the damage was because of some defect.
Cory
"Results may vary."
yeah, it's hopeless man, you're life is officially over...
1. Google.com
2. HTC incredible digitizer
3. spend $
4. fix phone
Ive heard of replacement screens being sold on the internet.. not sure where and who would fix it for you..but its an option
It's 120 dollars for HTC's repair contractor to replace the screen. It's not the worst thing in the world.
PS get a case
FYI.
1. Rooting your device voids ANY warranty.
2. Physical damage is not covered under manufacturer warranty. Any software defects are then attributed to the physical damage.
3. Drunk people+smartphone=bad news. Put it away.
4. The device did not break on you. You broke it.
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csseale said:
Not true. If you pay for insurance thru Verizon it absolutely covers physical damage, lost, etc. Manufactured warranty would only cover if the damage was because of some defect.
Cory
"Results may vary."
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Insurance and warranty are not synonymous... so yes, he is absolutely correct. and your "not true" is moot.
AdhvanIt said:
FYI.
1. Rooting your device voids ANY warranty.
2. Physical damage is not covered under manufacturer warranty. Any software defects are then attributed to the physical damage.
3. Drunk people+smartphone=bad news. Put it away.
4. The device did not break on you. You broke it.
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You forgot one.
5. You are a dumbass.
1.) I wasn't trying to, I -did- show up my friends iPhone 4. 3g speed test using opera...not even close.
2.) I had the Verizon case, but it obviously didn't offer the best frontal support.
3.) Violence doesn't solve anything, and it was a random person I don't even know. He didnt purposely knock into me..he was just a drunk idiot. My grip could have been better/been paying attention to it more.
4.) Thank you all for the various replies/solutions.
If HTC replaces the screen for 120$, I'm really ok with that. Apple charges 199$ for an iPhone 4 screen.
I understand how warrantee's work, I fix iPhones all day. I know that accidental/physical damage is not covered under a typical warranty, but Verizon's Insurance policy (7$ a month, with an 80$ deductable) is normally great because it will replace your phone NO MATTER WHAT, that involves falling off a cliff, cracked screen, ect.
The problem is that since i got my Incredible second hand, and not though VZ, they wouldn't transfer my insurance to the new phone. So, I can go back to using my Eris..but I really am in love with my Incredible.
5.) I know rooting voids warranty. If it was a stock root, though, the VZ rep probably wouldn't get it, was my original point. Regardless, if you do a factory reset, or unroot your device, your warranty is no longer voided, no?
I would start checking out the kiosks at your local mall. Our rinky-dink mall has 2 stores that will replaced cracked screens for about $80 - $100.....while you wait...
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Insurance and warranty are not synonymous... so yes, he is absolutely correct. and your "not true" is moot.
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Ok
Cory
"Results may vary."

G2 screen discolored

So I droped my phone and now I have a purple spot in my screen.
I was wondering do you think I can get a replacement G2 even if I have S-off. I was thinking about just flashing the stock rooted backup I have and sending it in. Has anyone gotten a replacement with S-off?
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you would need to go back to stock to send it back to tmobile or you will be voiding your warrenty
Rrod15 said:
So I droped my phone and now I have a purple spot in my screen.
I was wondering do you think I can get a replacement G2 even if I have S-off. I was thinking about just flashing the stock rooted backup I have and sending it in. Has anyone gotten a replacement with S-off?
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Obvious physical damage is unlikely to be repaired under warranty unless you have paid extra for this kind of protection.
Search around and you can find an LCD to install yourself. This is one EXAMPLE (I don't know the provider and there are other places to buy them from, possibly for less money...)
http://www.gultek.eu/htc-spare-parts/lcd/desire-z.html
Thanks for the info but I think the phone gods really like me or something cause the purple spot just disappered...how I have no idea and I don't care but it is awsome...G2 #1 lives on to see another day with me
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Yeah, LCD's can be funny like that. Like touching a laptop screen gets you some funny colors. They are somewhat flexible, on a phone, the flexible lcd is somewhat protected by the inflexible digitizer.
Year at first I was very disappointed cause I had the spot there for about 30 mins the posted this thread, went to sleep and it was gone which made me happy...would have sucked ifap I did send it back cause I just put one of those stealth guards on my phone the full body cover one.
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I think the best thing to do in this case is to brick the phone to the point it doesnt even turn on. Discreetely of course. I had major water damage on my TP2 with a custom rom before. But the fact that the phone didnt even start up and that I bleached the moisture indicators helped me get a warranty replacement.
lysergication said:
I think the best thing to do in this case is to brick the phone to the point it doesnt even turn on. Discreetely of course. I had major water damage on my TP2 with a custom rom before. But the fact that the phone didnt even start up and that I bleached the moisture indicators helped me get a warranty replacement.
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You're late to the thread (and obviously didn't read it through). His problem was just temporary. Also, your solution is in extremely poor taste (both ethically and legally).
I sent my g1 in, with a crack all the way across the screen, discoloration everywhere, and lots of other scratches. (fell out of my pocket from a motorcycle) and they offered me the "upgrade" to the click at the time so i took it. I wasnt charged anything, and what they dont tell you is that if you are charged, its only gonna be 100 bucks, which is the same as what you'd pay with insurance.
Well with my g1 any problem I had with it I just sent it in for a replac ement and all it ever costed was $40 but I think that's cause the plan I have. But not sure about my g2 now cause I haven't had to send it in for a replacement yet "knock on wood" but I do wonder how much it will cost me to get a replacement.
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jenlow said:
I wasnt charged anything, and what they dont tell you is that if you are charged, its only gonna be 100 bucks, which is the same as what you'd pay with insurance.
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It only cost you your soul for 3 years, which should be worth a whole hell of a lot more than a measly $100.
dhkr123 said:
You're late to the thread (and obviously didn't read it through). His problem was just temporary. Also, your solution is in extremely poor taste (both ethically and legally).
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I knew that the OP's original problem did not apply anymore. The purpose of my reply was rather to share my experience with the others reading the post, ethics aside. As far as legality goes, you got me there now that I think about it, so I am forced to advise against doing this. Although in reality I hardly think it's any worse than not claiming the money earned from selling a phone, laptop etc., on your taxes.
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I knew that the OP's original problem did not apply anymore. The purpose of my reply was rather to share my experience with the others reading the post, ethics aside. As far as legality goes, you got me there now that I think about it, so I am forced to advise against doing this. Although in reality I hardly think it's any worse than not claiming the money earned from selling a phone, laptop etc., on your taxes.
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That depends... how many phones and laptops are you selling? Your used stuff? Or are you in that business? You may be perfectly OK on that, consult an accountant for precise details.

[Q] Replacing the Camera?

I dropped my G2 and now the camera doesn't work Now the camera button doesn't do anything and I get FC's from any app using the camera. I'm pretty sure it's a hardware problem since I tried in two different ROMs.
Anyone know a place where I can get the camera module?
shellin said:
I dropped my G2 and now the camera doesn't work Now the camera button doesn't do anything and I get FC's from any app using the camera. I'm pretty sure it's a hardware problem since I tried in two different ROMs.
Anyone know a place where I can get the camera module?
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You dont mention if your rooted or not? If not why cant you just send it back under warrenty?
And if your rooted, 'try' follow the instructions to unroot....and then send it back .....
edit - I should learn to read...you are rooted lol....but still id be trying to unroot
Yep, I'm rooted (albeit with the old ENG method)
I thought that physical/drop damage wasn't covered under warranty?
shellin said:
I thought that physical/drop damage wasn't covered under warranty?
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If you got the accidental damage warranty from Tmo when you got the phone, you can send it in for replacement.
b3orion said:
If you got the accidental damage warranty from Tmo when you got the phone, you can send it in for replacement.
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I didn't know T-Mobile offered accidental damage warranties. I thought they only had the PHP insurance.
shellin said:
Yep, I'm rooted (albeit with the old ENG method)
I thought that physical/drop damage wasn't covered under warranty?
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I think they would struggle to say you dropped it (assuming theres no massive signs of impact).....always worth a try?!
rtorbs said:
I think they would struggle to say you dropped it (assuming theres no massive signs of impact).....always worth a try?!
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No, it is NOT worth the try... because once you've posted all over the internet that you dropped it, it is provably FRAUD (prison time...) to try to pass it off without disclosing to the manufacturer that it was, in fact, dropped.
The thing is, on the bottom right part of the front of my phone, there's some chipping of the plastic :/ I think it's a bit obvious that I dropped it now. I didn't get the handset protection, which I really regret now
But back to my original question: can I easily replace the camera and is there a site that sells camera parts?
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dhkr123 said:
No, it is NOT worth the try... because once you've posted all over the internet that you dropped it, it is provably FRAUD (prison time...) to try to pass it off without disclosing to the manufacturer that it was, in fact, dropped.
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Wow law enforcement agencies in your area really must have a lot of time on their hands....im not aware of a single person receiveing time for returning a phone under similar circumstances.....!!!
Ive had countless phones for countless years and legitimately paid for insurnace and never claimed so its what i would call 'karma'....and whether you did or didnt drop it, sh*t does occassionaly randomly stop working....
I think its more down to your own moral standing....but as for posting it on the web, its obviously better that you dont !
NB - just for the record before I get shot down in flames, I'm not openly condoning criminal activity, were not talking about doing this on a commercial scale this is as a result of an accident.....read the small print on your phone and or home insurance and see if you are covered but don't freak out about it
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The thing is, on the bottom right part of the front of my phone, there's some chipping of the plastic :/ I think it's a bit obvious that I dropped it now. I didn't get the handset protection, which I really regret now
But back to my original question: can I easily replace the camera and is there a site that sells camera parts?
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You could try the following ? they dont list as having a camera modules in as of now but that might be becasue the phone is so new ? Cant hurt to email though I guess.....
http://www.gultek.eu/home.php
And good luck with that, god knows what it will cost you ? Depending on your home insurance excess id possibly see if its worth replacing it that way ?....just dont mention it to the guy above lol
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Wow law enforcement agencies in your area really must have a lot of time on their hands....im not aware of a single person receiveing time for returning a phone under similar circumstances.....!!!
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Then you're LUCKY, because law enforcement is OUT TO GET YOU, despite the flowers and bunnies picture of the world that you mistakenly have.
dhkr123 said:
Then you're LUCKY, because law enforcement is OUT TO GET YOU, despite the flowers and bunnies picture of the world that you mistakenly have.
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Dude seriously.....flowers and bunnies? Are you on acid ?
Your obviously one of three things.....a cop, an insurance salesman or a religious nutcase.....all off which I have utter contempt for lol
Right I promise to make this my last post on this topic....
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With the exception of Ned Flanders above who clearly lives in Pleasantville, la la land the vast majority of people on here live in the real world. You have to accept that sometimes, legitimately or otherwise things happen outside of the realms of what you are covered for....If you were to insure your items for every possible waking scenario your policy cost would far outweigh that of the items insured thus being totally unreasonable.
Now I'm pretty sure that the OP isn't running a multi billion pound insurance fraud empire, he's just an average Joe who's worked hard to pay for a phone which is now damaged. Whilst I'm not saying its ok to be fraudulent, sometimes rules need to be bent to suit a scenario in which you 'are' covered, i,e if your phone insurance doesn't cover for damage but your house insurance does then claim on that, or if your covered for loss and theft (then you could theoretically 'accidently' lose it.....!)
To put this into perspective I currently pay Household, Car, Phone, Life, Teeth and Pet insurance (to name but a few) totalling hundreds if not thousands of pounds per year and have yet to make a claim and insurance companies make millions each year from this. Its also stated that to warrant insurance you'd need to make on average at least 2 claims per year....which the vast majority of people never do. So while I appreciate your point I think you need to get off your high horse, and change your 'mightier than thou' mentality.....go to church, say your 100 hail Marys or whatever it is you feel you need to do to redeem yourself over this obviously criminal conversation lol
Also - I'm also fairly sure that he will learn from this and will take the relevant accidental damage insurance out going forward. And should I see the OP's name in my local tabloids tomorrow for having run said multi billion pound insurance fraud empire I personally will eat my desire for the delight of you !
Oh and one last thing......NO ONE is out to get me, or you or anyone else for that matter (unless your a full blown crook?!)....this isn't a conspiracy theory......oh and err and crackpot extremist Muslims DID blow up the world trade centre....its wasn't the US government, Aliens or any of those pesky bunnies you previously mentioned just in case you were too scared to leave the house ?! lol
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Manufacturers warranties do not cover damage do to misuse or negligence. Quit rationalizing.
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Manufacturers warranties do not cover damage do to misuse or negligence. Quit rationalizing.
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Man.....
The whole idea of this site is about the freedom of choice and the ability to run custom ROMs etc etc on your phone but the whole concept whilst not illegal goes against the manufactures warranty and what they would have you do with your handset....hence the reason why there's so many requests to unroot/revert in the event of an issue.... and I know you know this.
If you accidently bricked your handset as a result of a bad flash or whatever .....your first port of call isn't to go out and buy another handset is it? (unless your a lottery winner, stupid or any combination therof) You'd try and undo what youve done and if needs be send it back to the manufactor hoping they will fix it without spotting any changes (or at least thats what id do....and im pretty sure so would thousands of others) but where then do you draw the line ? That is in fact also dodgy .....but its a bit of a grey area and whilst not a hardware issue its just as ropey a topic, yet you somehow pick and choose the bits of the rules you adhere to ? Go figure !!.....If HTC found that you had changed any element internally resulting in a malfunction you'd probably incur a charge same as if they found that you 'had' dropped the device and damaged the hardware but result is still the same.....
I've had devices that have been looked after, never dropped or abused and hardware does sometimes stop working....does that mean I'm not eligible to make a claim ? NO, does it also automatically imply that I've misused or neglected the item ? NO....its down to the discretion of the person reviewing the item and obviously an internal inspection.
So whether you ultimately source an independent part or return it regardless (hoping they fix it for free) but end up having to pay what they ask.....your still going to have to pay someone !! All I'm trying to say as a result of all this is....What have you got to lose? Nothing.....if it gets through great, if it doesn't your no worse off.
Whilst my view on the subject maybe different from yours I still agree that you take the appropriate cover and you are responsible for your item, but don't come on here giving it all the 'rules and regulations talk' when in fact your very being here is breaking the rules in the first instance.....
Thanks though
What the hell are you talking about? Cut out the strawman arguments. I've never bricked a phone out of negligence and when I've cracked a screen I've fixed it out of pocket. This has nothing to do with custom roms.
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And last I checked (in America) rooting, custom roms and all that wasn't illegal. I just hate the rampant fraud on xda that ****s up legitimate returns and pushes manufacturers to add more and more security.
Edit: wrong thread
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Hot_Hands said:
What the hell are you talking about? Cut out the strawman arguments. I've never bricked a phone out of negligence and when I've cracked a screen I've fixed it out of pocket. This has nothing to do with custom roms.
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Oooooooo !!!
lol whoever said you did ? But plenty of people on here have and its primarily deemed ok to return a phone on that basis.....but not on damaged hardware basis?!
And by your own admission.....
If you drop your phone thats damage due to neglect
If you flash a rom and it goes bad thats damage due to missuse
But the principal is the same....damage is damage and the hot topic was about returning a damaged phone.....my missus works in insurance and I happen to understand how a return policy works (the same applies for a manufacturors return).....its not down to you to prove you didnt drop it its down to the review to prove you did..... all i originally mentioned was try return it and see what they say.....if theres physical damage internally you'd be hard pressed to say you didnt drop it, but if something has just come lose you could argue that it worked its way lose thats all....
I quite frankly dont give a sh*t about the moral element (which is what seemed to be the issue)
At the end of the day all that will happen is they will either repair it for free or they wont.....f**K me!
And if you actually read my post, I never said rooting and custom ROMs was illegal but companies like HTC and whoever dont spend millions on development of encryption and preventative measures for sh*ts and giggles mate, they do it to prevent a a mass influx of devices getting returned due to missuse/bad flashes (amongst other things).....they wont openly just accept devices that have been tamperred with as its not good business sense....so whilst not illegal you try return a phone thats had a change of software/HBOOT/Whatever and see you willing they are to accept it.......errr not very.....hence the reason why so many people ask about unrooting etc !
Now pi55 off
Hot_Hands said:
What the hell are you talking about? Cut out the strawman arguments. I've never bricked a phone out of negligence and when I've cracked a screen I've fixed it out of pocket. This has nothing to do with custom roms.
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Oooooooo !!!
lol whoever said you did ? But plenty of people on here have and its primarily deemed ok to return a phone on that basis.....but not on damaged hardware basis?!
And by your own admission.....
If you drop your phone thats damage due to neglect
If you flash a rom and it goes bad thats damage due to missuse
But the principal is the same....damage is damage and the hot topic was about returning a damaged phone.....my missus works in insurance and I happen to understand how a return policy works (the same applies for a manufacturors return).....its not down to you to prove you didnt drop it its down to the review to prove you did..... all i originally mentioned was try return it and see what they say.....if theres physical damage internally you'd be hard pressed to say you didnt drop it, but if something has just come lose you could argue that it worked its way lose thats all....
I quite frankly dont give a sh*t about the moral element (which is what seemed to be the issue)
At the end of the day all that will happen is they will either repair it for free or they wont.....f**K me!
And if you actually read my post, I never said rooting and custom ROMs was illegal but companies like HTC and whoever dont spend millions on development of encryption and preventative measures for sh*ts and giggles mate, they do it to prevent a a mass influx of devices getting returned due to missuse/bad flashes (amongst other things).....they wont openly just accept devices that have been tamperred with as its not good business sense....so whilst not illegal you try return a phone thats had a change of software/HBOOT/Whatever and see you willing they are to accept it.......errr not very.....hence the reason why so many people ask about unrooting etc !
Now pi55 off
Hot_Hands said:
And last I checked (in America) rooting, custom roms and all that wasn't illegal. I just hate the rampant fraud on xda that ****s up legitimate returns and pushes manufacturers to add more and more security.
Edit: wrong thread
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Look I agree on the fraud side but were not talking about throwing your phone on the floor whenever you want a new one, or regularly taking the pi55 with bogus claims but sometimes accidents happen and why after paying for insurance shouldnt you be entitled to a replacement irrespective of the reason the damage came about?
And as much as much as I love the products etc I have yet to receive one that works 100% from the offset (and i have to put up with and accept this....and who's stood fighting my corner as a consumer?) .....see my post 'desire behaving badly'. I paid £420 for a phone and havent touched it (in terms of root etc) yet it still has faults and i negate this fact by occasionaly bending the rules and maybe getting a replacement.....its swings and round abouts......
If you have a problem with that, thats fine........I dont.

Giving my DINC2 to science

SCIENCE!!!
Nah, it froze up after user "t" on voxer added me as a friend(most likely a fake hacker account). After pulling the battery it locks up on the HTC boot screen. when booted into recovery it seems the system and cache partitions will no longer mount. Verizon let me upgrade(as i was out of insurance replacements) early to a rezound(which appears to be following a similar S-OFF situation-whiny impatient do-nothings crying foul over the wait and then of course the wait itself)
anywho im willing to give it to anyone interested in research and development. you just have to pay shipping(if its even worth it lol). If no one wants its just gonna get chucked.
BTW-off topic but whilst i wait for my rezound to come in the mail a friends letting me use a motorola photon on his sprint account and that phone sucks. the camera button sticks(its like 2 weeks old)and it freezes every so often.
You can probably still save it. Do you have adb set up?
yeah but everytime i try to flash a new recovery or anything at all for that matter(including trying NANDROID restores)it freezes and i get a failed message in adb and fastboot. something along the line of "to many reads" or something.
Did you try unrooting?
well its on GB(Virtuous Affinity), and from what ive read it has to be on froyo to unroot, and without being able to flash anything i kind of...cant
after reading this-http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1393538
it would seem it wasnt a hacker, but the tiniest drop of coka cola that fell on the front speaker grill, the voxer user thing could have just been a coincidance as this guys phone seems to be doing the exact same thing.
http://forums.androidcentral.com/incredible-2-rooting-roms-hacks/120950-guide-unroot-revolutionary-incredible-2-a.html
so.. how much for shipping??
I don't think i can save it but i hate to see if just thrown away
yep, even flashing using the pg32img method causes it to freeze, but ive editted my last post right at the same time you posted this so im fairly sure its useless to everyone now, but if someone wants a fancy paperweight its still up for grabs
and andy-shouldnt be much- it weighs almost nothing and with USPS flat rate shipping boxes maybe like 10$, ill take it by the ups store tomorrow when i go to pick up a case for my rezound(theyre right next to each other).
theres one thing im not-nostalgic except for the inc1 which was a soldier. it brought a tear to my eye when i found it dead.but for saving it, if it is a moisture problem, here in Birmingham(al not UK) we have smart hpone repair places all over the place, the only reason i didnt take it to one of those is verizon went way out of their way to ensure i wouldnt switch to sprint(which i threatened to do)
logan4434 said:
yep, even flashing using the pg32img method causes it to freeze, but ive editted my last post right at the same time you posted this so im fairly sure its useless to everyone now, but if someone wants a fancy paperweight its still up for grabs
and andy-shouldnt be much- it weighs almost nothing and with USPS flat rate shipping boxes maybe like 10$, ill take it by the ups store tomorrow when i go to pick up a case for my rezound(theyre right next to each other).
theres one thing im not-nostalgic except for the inc1 which was a soldier. it brought a tear to my eye when i found it dead.but for saving it, if it is a moisture problem, here in Birmingham(al not UK) we have smart hpone repair places all over the place, the only reason i didnt take it to one of those is verizon went way out of their way to ensure i wouldnt switch to sprint(which i threatened to do)
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i will try using my XTC clip on it lol see if it helps, ya never know
I came late and the post was already edited..... What happened??
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it no work-tried several times
Got any extra cases or accessories you wanna get rid of too?
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Good luck with the new phone.
Good on you for doing this...
logan4434 said:
SCIENCE!!!
Nah, it froze up after user "t" on voxer added me as a friend(most likely a fake hacker account). After pulling the battery it locks up on the HTC boot screen. when booted into recovery it seems the system and cache partitions will no longer mount. Verizon let me upgrade(as i was out of insurance replacements) early to a rezound(which appears to be following a similar S-OFF situation-whiny impatient do-nothings crying foul over the wait and then of course the wait itself)
anywho im willing to give it to anyone interested in research and development. you just have to pay shipping(if its even worth it lol). If no one wants its just gonna get chucked.
BTW-off topic but whilst i wait for my rezound to come in the mail a friends letting me use a motorola photon on his sprint account and that phone sucks. the camera button sticks(its like 2 weeks old)and it freezes every so often.
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This is exactly what my fiances phone is doing, but it got wet.
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knipp21 said:
This is exactly what my fiances phone is doing, but it got wet.
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yeah that why im thinking it was that tiny drop of coke that slid down the side of the can a drip right into the front speaker grill(note to self-dont leave the phone in your lap whilst drinking something)tried to blow it out, but probably just blew it further in.
edit:because it was only a drop and not much you can have it for your fiance, then take it to a smart phone repair shop. I dont know what the prices are around you, but here its only like 95$ to clean it out(if the screen has moisture damage they replace it for a hell of alot more,but this ones fine), being that its probably that drop causing a small short. If your wary id be happy to send some pics.
ddgarcia05 said:
Got any extra cases or accessories you wanna get rid of too?
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nope
logan4434 said:
yeah that why im thinking it was that tiny drop of coke that slid down the side of the can a drip right into the front speaker grill(note to self-dont leave the phone in your lap whilst drinking something)tried to blow it out, but probably just blew it further in.
edit:because it was only a drop and not much you can have it for your fiance, then take it to a smart phone repair shop. I dont know what the prices are around you, but here its only like 95$ to clean it out(if the screen has moisture damage they replace it for a hell of alot more,but this ones fine), being that its probably that drop causing a small short. If your wary id be happy to send some pics.
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That's one powerful drip.
yeah, you know lol, like when your drinking from the can and the slightest bit slips by and gets all over your nice white shirt-well it landed like bullseye on the speaker.-its either that or the hacker theory cause they both happened right before the phone went nuts
logan4434 said:
yeah, you know lol, like when your drinking from the can and the slightest bit slips by and gets all over your nice white shirt-well it landed like bullseye on the speaker.-its either that or the hacker theory cause they both happened right before the phone went nuts
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I bet it was that Carnivore got into your phone and devoured itself from within the motherboard...

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