im a new owner of this awesome devices was previously an htc evo user then went to the evil world of iphones then got out for the galaxy s3 the evo had so much more development and porting but i miss the htc sense would any dev please attempt a sense 3.5 or 4 or even 2,0 to our devices
That's borderline impossible. Completely different framework and kernels. There is a team working on bringing sense to Samsung, sense4all,I believe. Its not something the average person can manage to do.
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That's borderline impossible. Completely different framework and kernels. There is a team working on bringing sense to Samsung, sense4all,I believe. Its not something the average person can manage to do.
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not necessarly true a new kernel would have to be created but not impossible if htc devices can get touchwiz booting the s3 def can have sense booting 2 sense4all was successfully created for the galaxy s3 international problem is thats a completly diffrent hardware then the sgh i747 im really looking forward to the deving on this device its nice and powerfull and i hope that more people get on the dev scene on this
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not necessarly true a new kernel would have to be created but not impossible if htc devices can get touchwiz booting the s3 def can have sense booting 2 sense4all was successfully created for the galaxy s3 international problem is thats a completly diffrent hardware then the sgh i747 im really looking forward to the deving on this device its nice and powerfull and i hope that more people get on the dev scene on this
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Yes a new kernel would be needed. The difference in the sense based stuff in an htc kernel does not directly work with a Samsung device of the same processors. The ram disk needs to be modified, correct drivers would either need to be made or modded, that's just for the basics. I'm not including adding in the camera, sound, radio, touchscreen etc stuff. Those a specific to each different device with the newer versions of android now of days.
I can't just directly port over a touchwiz ROM an drop it on my phone, so much work goes into it. If you do get the kernel built correctly, more problems arise. Gotta rework the framework to match the Samsung phone, including HTC's framework among other HTC specific files.
What HTC phone has a full booting touchwiz rom?
Not to mention a lot of Sense drivers are closed source and proprietary.
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Not to mention a lot of Sense drivers are closed source and proprietary.
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Htc desire has a working touchwiz rom and isnt touchwiz closed source as well i dont doubt it woukd take allot of work but this is what xda devs do most roms ivr seen out in this forum are stripped stock or asop or kangs of cm and 1 miui rom or a themed touchwiz or jb the jb is probsbly the nicest
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Htc desire has a working touchwiz rom and isnt touchwiz closed source as well i dont doubt it woukd take allot of work but this is what xda devs do most roms ivr seen out in this forum are stripped stock or asop or kangs of cm and 1 miui rom or a themed touchwiz or jb the jb is probsbly the nicest
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Please link me to that Rom
im sorry i mean the htc evo
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i meant the htc evo not desire sorry i have way too many phones anyways i believe the link for evo has been taken down heres a youtube
video of it also doing a little more research i discovered that those over at the htc one x devs on xda have managed to port the entire UI over to their devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821047
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY2O64tCB60&feature=player_embedded here is the youtube video for touchwiz on the htc evo
i also have the actual rom file since the actual forum was taken down about a year ago i can provide the rom file on request as its stored on my 4shared mirror
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i meant the htc evo not desire sorry i have way too many phones anyways i believe the link for evo has been taken down heres a youtube
video of it also doing a little more research i discovered that those over at the htc one x devs on xda have managed to port the entire UI over to their devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821047
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY2O64tCB60&feature=player_embedded here is the youtube video for touchwiz on the htc evo
i also have the actual rom file since the actual forum was taken down about a year ago i can provide the rom file on request as its stored on my 4shared mirror
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That video doesn't prove that is a full touchwiz Rom. Then your link is only for the launcher,yet again that doesn't prove anything at all. The Rom is just a stripped out sense Rom(ie senseless)with touchwiz launcher an possibly ui. It's not a full touchwiz rom.
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That video doesn't prove that is a full touchwiz Rom. Then your link is only for the launcher,yet again that doesn't prove anything at all. The Rom is just a stripped out sense Rom(ie senseless)with touchwiz launcher an possibly ui. It's not a full touchwiz rom.
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hmmm interesting would that be a possibility for us i747 users?
sir my question was simply why can they bring our UI to them and we cannot port anything to our devices besides Aosp and Aokp and miui they have ports of our UI why not port there UI ? they stripped sense and got a Touchwiz Ui on top of it why don't we start with an Aosp or AOkp and throw in a Sense UI im not here to argue about getting a full rom my question was hey can we get some sense on our phones and thanks for all the help ive never had a moderator actually reply to my questions its good to have an active moderator on a forum props to you sir
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hmmm interesting would that be a possibility for us i747 users?
sir my question was simply why can they bring our UI to them and we cannot port anything to our devices besides Aosp and Aokp and miui they have ports of our UI why not port there UI ? they stripped sense and got a Touchwiz Ui on top of it why don't we start with an Aosp or AOkp and throw in a Sense UI im not here to argue about getting a full rom my question was hey can we get some sense on our phones and thanks for all the help ive never had a moderator actually reply to my questions its good to have an active moderator on a forum props to you sir
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The ui alone is possible but not very sure how stable it'll be though. Probably the main reason nobody has done is: 1. They just don't care about sense. 2. There no demand for sense on the device or 3.nobody thought of it yet?
I try to help out where ever possible. Thanks.
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The ui alone is possible but not very sure how stable it'll be though. Probably the main reason nobody has done is: 1. They just don't care about sense. 2. There no demand for sense on the device or 3.nobody thought of it yet?
I try to help out where ever possible. Thanks.
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The level of activity in development in this particular forum is relatively low although the devs have come up with some pretty genius things I will start this venture and if I am able to get a beta launcher application of sense ui. I will post in the development for testing and see how well it'll catch on I'm not much of a dev. But will give it a shot.
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The level of activity in development in this particular forum is relatively low although the devs have come up with some pretty genius things I will start this venture and if I am able to get a beta launcher application of sense ui. I will post in the development for testing and see how well it'll catch on I'm not much of a dev. But will give it a shot.
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If I owned the gs3, I'd help out
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Haven't seen any for the EVO yet.
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Haven't seen any for the EVO yet.
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Well, I read that they already have a pretty good port for the HD2 already (Which is great for that device since a working Android port would really breathe life into it), and I would think that it would be even easier to port to the Evo simply because they are both designed to run Android.
However, I'm not sure there would really be much to gain by doing that, but maybe i'm wrong.
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Well, I read that they already have a pretty good port for the HD2 already (Which is great for that device since a working Android port would really breathe life into it), and I would think that it would be even easier to port to the Evo simply because they are both designed to run Android.
However, I'm not sure there would really be much to gain by doing that, but maybe i'm wrong.
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The new HTC Sense looks to be the grand prize from the dump.
I would like to know what dev is going to atleast attempt to port the new Sense or the ROM as a whole.
Mainly, I just want the new Sense.
I honestly don't think we're going to get close to a Desire port until the CDMA or world phone version is launched. It will be a real ***** to port the GSM frameworks to CDMA. It might be possible to get the new sense ripped out of it, but from what I've seen Sense is embedded in both the apps AND the frameworks.
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I honestly don't think we're going to get close to a Desire port until the CDMA or world phone version is launched. It will be a real ***** to port the GSM frameworks to CDMA. It might be possible to get the new sense ripped out of it, but from what I've seen Sense is embedded in both the apps AND the frameworks.
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We had the Nexus One AOSP ROM, so I don't think it would be impossible.
I'm seeing all these ROMS with sense 2.0 that lack 4G and what not... instead of adding 4G to the rom... wouldn't it be easier to try to take sense from a rom and put it on one that already has 4G??? If this questions is dumb don't get smart lol I'm still learning when it comes to this...
I'm not a dev but I'd like to believe it is more to it than that. It's hard enough taking a rom not designed for the EVO and making it work.
gingerbread source has been released for months. and we are just now seeing the first, buggy leak for the evo. it's freaking hard to incorperate sense into a rom. takes months for a team of professional developers to do it. it's not just installing an app.
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I'm seeing all these ROMS with sense 2.0 that lack 4G and what not... instead of adding 4G to the rom... wouldn't it be easier to try to take sense from a rom and put it on one that already has 4G??? If this questions is dumb don't get smart lol I'm still learning when it comes to this...
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The problem with roms that have newly leaked gingerbread and sense 2.0 is that htc hasn't released source codes so the devs can't get 4G and in sone cases camera to work. Give them time this is the best group of devs in the world here at xda
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Why locking every new Sense 3.0 ROM thread? (Spare Honeysense 3D)
I am really worried about the spirit of competition for Sense 3.0 development on DHD... Every new Sense 3.0 ROM being posted get locked within a day or so.
This is unhealthy practice and I would think it has dire consequences regarding pushing Sense 3.0 forward on our device.
There must be some other way to settle arguments other than doing it this way in public.
I have no hard-feelings towards any of the Devs involved in this matter, but it is getting way too much now.
I hope we can keep XDA forums a pleasant and civilized place for all Devs (like it is meant to be). After all, it is an open source OS and no one has rights to claim any part of the software spare HTC and Google Devs imho.
Cheers
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Dear Admins
Why locking every new Sense 3.0 ROM thread? (Spare Honeysense 3D)
I am really worried about the spirit of competition for Sense 3.0 development on DHD... Every new Sense 3.0 ROM being posted get locked within a day or so.
This is unhealthy practice and I would think it has dire consequences regarding pushing Sense 3.0 forward on our device.
There must be some other way to settle arguments other than doing it this way in public.
I have no hard-feelings towards any of the Devs involved in this matter, but it is getting way too much now.
I hope we can keep XDA forums a pleasant and civilized place for all Devs (like it is meant to be). After all, it is an open source OS and no one has rights to claim any part of the software spare HTC and Google Devs imho.
Cheers
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I think it's because of people using virtuous unity as a base without their permission. There aren't many devs that can port and resize a stock Sensation etc. rom to the DHD, so that's why almost every new Sense 3.0 rom is based on a already existing port. If people made their own roms from scratch it would be ok as it would bring some diversity. Now all new sense 3.0 roms are practically the same as there can't be any huge differences if the devs don't know how to use the m10 tools for example.
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I think it's because of people using virtuous unity as a base without their permission. There aren't many devs that can port and resize a stock Sensation etc. rom to the DHD, so that's why almost every new Sense 3.0 rom is based on a already existing port. If people made their own roms from scratch it would be ok as it would bring some diversity. Now all new sense 3.0 roms are practically the same as there can't be any huge differences if the devs don't know how to use the m10 tools for example.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but don't all MIUI and Cyanogenmod custom ports are based on the original Rom with some tweaks? Why Sense 3 needs to be different...
I never saw an MIUI or Cyanogenmod custom ROM being locked for this reason.
If you have a good base that you can just simply tweak for better performance/custom looks, wouldn't that make devs lives easier and get us more choices to Flash? Of course I cannot expect someone to take a base without mentioning the original dev/team who cooked it and giving them proper credit for their work. But still mentioning them in credits should be enough imho. And still people have the choice to flash whatever they want.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but don't all MIUI and Cyanogenmod custom ports are based on the original Rom with some tweaks? Why Sense 3 needs to be different...
I never saw an MIUI or Cyanogenmod custom ROM being locked for this reason.
If you have a good base that you can just simply tweak for better performance/custom looks, wouldn't that make devs lives easier and get us more choices to Flash? Of course I cannot expect someone to take a base without mentioning the original dev/team who cooked it and giving them proper credit for their work. But still mentioning them in credits should be enough imho. And still people have the choice to flash whatever they want.
Cheers
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My main point is the last sentence in my previous post. There isn't much tweaking you can do as a dev if you don't know how to work with the rom in the first place. If someone wants to modify the looks of a rom they could just release a theme. There's just too little being added to these new roms that someone could be able to call it their own imo and then there's the permission part...
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I tried just about every ROM for my inspire and I decided to keep Honey3d.. after trying just about every sense 3.0 ROM, I believe that each one had its own touch. They look very similar but some just had a different style or look. Personally there was a big enough difference between them all to meet everyone's different styles.
If your worried about them all looking the same, take a look at some of the other ROMs out there too. Many of them look close to a bunch of the other ROMs.
Overall I don't really understand the locking on the 3.0 threads. I really hope I get to keep using Honey3D.. I don't really want to change to anything else
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Thanks for sharing that useful piece of information just to get your post count up
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Thanks for sharing that useful piece of information just to get your post count up
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Lol....you see that all the time. I can't tell if its an attempt to boost post count or serious language barrier.
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Is it possible to port ROMs from one device to another? This would be so awesome on the Dinc 2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174905
I'm not gonna say it's "impossible" at the hands of an experienced developer, but no, it's not as simple as just porting it over.
In the case of that ROM, the framework flat out doesn't exist to run touchwiz on an HTC device. To modify and adapt that would be a huge undertaking that I highly doubt a developer would subject him/herself to.
So, no, it isn't "impossible" but it is for sure highly, highly, highly improbable
And touchwiz sucks anyway
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Is it possible to port ROMs from one device to another? This would be so awesome on the Dinc 2: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1174905
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Touchwiz on an HTC device will probably never happen. Now a touchwiz themed sense rom might be possible. There should also me a TW4 theme for CM7
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I mostly just want the weather widget. That's all I really care about.
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This ROM looks absolutely fantastic. Any developers have insight as to how we can get this working on our Verizon HTC One's?
Android Revolution HD
I've done some reading and tried this Sense-to-Sense porting guide with no luck.
Thoughts? Ideas? Halp?
I'm no expert but we'll likely see more ports once 4.3 comes out for us.
Does he have a ROM for the one? Need to look at his github
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Does he have a ROM for the one? Need to look at his github
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He has a ROM for the One but its for the GSM version. I asked him if he's going to port to Verizon and he said NO. Sad...=(
Well like cm I'm sure you can port it over. Just ask some devs on this forum to get you started. @Flyhalf205 or somebody like him can help I'm sure
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My rom uses the exact same base. Not saying it's exactly the same however.
But what exactly is it about the rom that interests you?
Is there something it claims to offer that the roms we already have don't?
Just trying to understand all this desire to port other roms that have the same base as existing roms already ported and available.
What features makes it different or more desirable?
Maybe some insight may help others to understand and therefor justify why any Dev would port something from another Dev, when he has done the work already for his own port/rom.
Trying to understand what the draw is, that's all.
Is it the more well known "name" on it?
Go ask the creator of the ROM for permission to port and I will see about porting it over if I get the time.
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Go ask the creator of the ROM for permission to port and I will see about porting it over if I get the time.
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Here is the link to the rom...
Android Revolution HD
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2183023
If you look at OP Post #1 here is the sharing policy, I've already messaged mike already to inform him... If you could pull this off FlyHalf that would be AWESOME. I have friends using this ROM and they totally swear by it (full GPU UI rendering, all the underhood tweaks make this rom quick, CPU governor performance).
This forum is about sharing. If you want to use any part of my work, please feel free to do it but remember about some simple rules:
Inform me about using my work by sending me a message. You don’t need my permission, just inform me.
Include link to my thread from where you took particular files.
Give proper credits for what you used.
When it comes to using my ROM as a base you are free to do it only if I don't have "Stock ROMs" thread available for particular device. If such thread exists, you are
obligated to take ROMs from there instead. These threads with "Stock ROMs" are usually updated within 24 hours from the moment when I release my custom ROM.
Sharing is one thing, but please respect some areas of my work like:
ROM name - "Android Revolution HD", "Android Revolution", "Revo HD", "AR HD" etc.
Graphics used in my threads, especially head-banners designed exclusivity for me.
Other parts of my work that are not supposed to be used by others without proper permission.
Reguardless if he lets me. I will still port it to myself. May even work with him to get Verizon support in his main thread. Would be best solution since he does have sprint support. I am making no promises I can get this done! But I will try
I have a Verizon HTC One and would love to be able to use this ROM! There isnt very many roms for the Verizon version being as it came out so late im guessing.
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I have a Verizon HTC One and would love to be able to use this ROM! There isnt very many roms for the Verizon version being as it came out so late im guessing.
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Have you tried any that we do have? We've got pretty solid options for both Sense and AOSP ROMs.
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Not gonna lie, it doesn't look that impressive. It's basically a stock based ROM with sense 5 toolbox. Kinda meh in my opinion
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Reguardless if he lets me. I will still port it to myself. May even work with him to get Verizon support in his main thread. Would be best solution since he does have sprint support. I am making no promises I can get this done! But I will try
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Any updates on trying to get a port for Android Revolution to Verizon? That would be great!
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Any updates on trying to get a port for Android Revolution to Verizon? That would be great!
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I actually did this, just to see what all the hoopla was about.
It's essentially a stock rom with Sense 5 toolbox, not much point in it really. (my 2 cents)
What feature is it you are looking for that's not currently available to us on Vzw? Just curious.
Is it the GPU rendering? Because that's the only thing that really stands out... to me anyway.
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I actually did this, just to see what all the hoopla was about.
It's essentially a stock rom with Sense 5 toolbox, not much point in it really. (my 2 cents)
What feature is it you are looking for that's not currently available to us on Vzw? Just curious.
Is it the GPU rendering? Because that's the only thing that really stands out... to me anyway.
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Hehe...I did too. I also didn't care for it. Bonestock is way better for a stock experience.
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santod040 said:
I actually did this, just to see what all the hoopla was about.
It's essentially a stock rom with Sense 5 toolbox, not much point in it really. (my 2 cents)
What feature is it you are looking for that's not currently available to us on Vzw? Just curious.
Is it the GPU rendering? Because that's the only thing that really stands out... to me anyway.
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Okay, good to know we'r not missing out on too much. Unfortunately, its not like we can test out that ROM for ourselves since its on the GSM version so its hard to really compare it to the roms that are offered for Verizon.