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[Q] Why all Sense 3.0 ROMS threads being locked?

Dear Admins
Why locking every new Sense 3.0 ROM thread? (Spare Honeysense 3D)
I am really worried about the spirit of competition for Sense 3.0 development on DHD... Every new Sense 3.0 ROM being posted get locked within a day or so.
This is unhealthy practice and I would think it has dire consequences regarding pushing Sense 3.0 forward on our device.
There must be some other way to settle arguments other than doing it this way in public.
I have no hard-feelings towards any of the Devs involved in this matter, but it is getting way too much now.
I hope we can keep XDA forums a pleasant and civilized place for all Devs (like it is meant to be). After all, it is an open source OS and no one has rights to claim any part of the software spare HTC and Google Devs imho.
Cheers

naailalzuhir said:
Dear Admins
Why locking every new Sense 3.0 ROM thread? (Spare Honeysense 3D)
I am really worried about the spirit of competition for Sense 3.0 development on DHD... Every new Sense 3.0 ROM being posted get locked within a day or so.
This is unhealthy practice and I would think it has dire consequences regarding pushing Sense 3.0 forward on our device.
There must be some other way to settle arguments other than doing it this way in public.
I have no hard-feelings towards any of the Devs involved in this matter, but it is getting way too much now.
I hope we can keep XDA forums a pleasant and civilized place for all Devs (like it is meant to be). After all, it is an open source OS and no one has rights to claim any part of the software spare HTC and Google Devs imho.
Cheers
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I think it's because of people using virtuous unity as a base without their permission. There aren't many devs that can port and resize a stock Sensation etc. rom to the DHD, so that's why almost every new Sense 3.0 rom is based on a already existing port. If people made their own roms from scratch it would be ok as it would bring some diversity. Now all new sense 3.0 roms are practically the same as there can't be any huge differences if the devs don't know how to use the m10 tools for example.

Hawks556 said:
I think it's because of people using virtuous unity as a base without their permission. There aren't many devs that can port and resize a stock Sensation etc. rom to the DHD, so that's why almost every new Sense 3.0 rom is based on a already existing port. If people made their own roms from scratch it would be ok as it would bring some diversity. Now all new sense 3.0 roms are practically the same as there can't be any huge differences if the devs don't know how to use the m10 tools for example.
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Correct me if I am wrong, but don't all MIUI and Cyanogenmod custom ports are based on the original Rom with some tweaks? Why Sense 3 needs to be different...
I never saw an MIUI or Cyanogenmod custom ROM being locked for this reason.
If you have a good base that you can just simply tweak for better performance/custom looks, wouldn't that make devs lives easier and get us more choices to Flash? Of course I cannot expect someone to take a base without mentioning the original dev/team who cooked it and giving them proper credit for their work. But still mentioning them in credits should be enough imho. And still people have the choice to flash whatever they want.
Cheers

naailalzuhir said:
Correct me if I am wrong, but don't all MIUI and Cyanogenmod custom ports are based on the original Rom with some tweaks? Why Sense 3 needs to be different...
I never saw an MIUI or Cyanogenmod custom ROM being locked for this reason.
If you have a good base that you can just simply tweak for better performance/custom looks, wouldn't that make devs lives easier and get us more choices to Flash? Of course I cannot expect someone to take a base without mentioning the original dev/team who cooked it and giving them proper credit for their work. But still mentioning them in credits should be enough imho. And still people have the choice to flash whatever they want.
Cheers
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My main point is the last sentence in my previous post. There isn't much tweaking you can do as a dev if you don't know how to work with the rom in the first place. If someone wants to modify the looks of a rom they could just release a theme. There's just too little being added to these new roms that someone could be able to call it their own imo and then there's the permission part...
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I tried just about every ROM for my inspire and I decided to keep Honey3d.. after trying just about every sense 3.0 ROM, I believe that each one had its own touch. They look very similar but some just had a different style or look. Personally there was a big enough difference between them all to meet everyone's different styles.
If your worried about them all looking the same, take a look at some of the other ROMs out there too. Many of them look close to a bunch of the other ROMs.
Overall I don't really understand the locking on the 3.0 threads. I really hope I get to keep using Honey3D.. I don't really want to change to anything else
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i don't know about it.
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zy. said:
i don't know about it.
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Thanks for sharing that useful piece of information just to get your post count up
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Hawks556 said:
Thanks for sharing that useful piece of information just to get your post count up
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Lol....you see that all the time. I can't tell if its an attempt to boost post count or serious language barrier.
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[Q] sense rom for galaxy s 3 att

im a new owner of this awesome devices was previously an htc evo user then went to the evil world of iphones then got out for the galaxy s3 the evo had so much more development and porting but i miss the htc sense would any dev please attempt a sense 3.5 or 4 or even 2,0 to our devices

That's borderline impossible. Completely different framework and kernels. There is a team working on bringing sense to Samsung, sense4all,I believe. Its not something the average person can manage to do.

The Archangel said:
That's borderline impossible. Completely different framework and kernels. There is a team working on bringing sense to Samsung, sense4all,I believe. Its not something the average person can manage to do.
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not necessarly true a new kernel would have to be created but not impossible if htc devices can get touchwiz booting the s3 def can have sense booting 2 sense4all was successfully created for the galaxy s3 international problem is thats a completly diffrent hardware then the sgh i747 im really looking forward to the deving on this device its nice and powerfull and i hope that more people get on the dev scene on this

atadres said:
not necessarly true a new kernel would have to be created but not impossible if htc devices can get touchwiz booting the s3 def can have sense booting 2 sense4all was successfully created for the galaxy s3 international problem is thats a completly diffrent hardware then the sgh i747 im really looking forward to the deving on this device its nice and powerfull and i hope that more people get on the dev scene on this
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Yes a new kernel would be needed. The difference in the sense based stuff in an htc kernel does not directly work with a Samsung device of the same processors. The ram disk needs to be modified, correct drivers would either need to be made or modded, that's just for the basics. I'm not including adding in the camera, sound, radio, touchscreen etc stuff. Those a specific to each different device with the newer versions of android now of days.
I can't just directly port over a touchwiz ROM an drop it on my phone, so much work goes into it. If you do get the kernel built correctly, more problems arise. Gotta rework the framework to match the Samsung phone, including HTC's framework among other HTC specific files.
What HTC phone has a full booting touchwiz rom?

Not to mention a lot of Sense drivers are closed source and proprietary.

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Not to mention a lot of Sense drivers are closed source and proprietary.
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Htc desire has a working touchwiz rom and isnt touchwiz closed source as well i dont doubt it woukd take allot of work but this is what xda devs do most roms ivr seen out in this forum are stripped stock or asop or kangs of cm and 1 miui rom or a themed touchwiz or jb the jb is probsbly the nicest

atadres said:
Htc desire has a working touchwiz rom and isnt touchwiz closed source as well i dont doubt it woukd take allot of work but this is what xda devs do most roms ivr seen out in this forum are stripped stock or asop or kangs of cm and 1 miui rom or a themed touchwiz or jb the jb is probsbly the nicest
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Please link me to that Rom

im sorry i mean the htc evo
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Please link me to that Rom
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i meant the htc evo not desire sorry i have way too many phones anyways i believe the link for evo has been taken down heres a youtube
video of it also doing a little more research i discovered that those over at the htc one x devs on xda have managed to port the entire UI over to their devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821047
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY2O64tCB60&feature=player_embedded here is the youtube video for touchwiz on the htc evo
i also have the actual rom file since the actual forum was taken down about a year ago i can provide the rom file on request as its stored on my 4shared mirror

atadres said:
i meant the htc evo not desire sorry i have way too many phones anyways i believe the link for evo has been taken down heres a youtube
video of it also doing a little more research i discovered that those over at the htc one x devs on xda have managed to port the entire UI over to their devices
http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=1821047
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oY2O64tCB60&feature=player_embedded here is the youtube video for touchwiz on the htc evo
i also have the actual rom file since the actual forum was taken down about a year ago i can provide the rom file on request as its stored on my 4shared mirror
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That video doesn't prove that is a full touchwiz Rom. Then your link is only for the launcher,yet again that doesn't prove anything at all. The Rom is just a stripped out sense Rom(ie senseless)with touchwiz launcher an possibly ui. It's not a full touchwiz rom.

The Archangel said:
That video doesn't prove that is a full touchwiz Rom. Then your link is only for the launcher,yet again that doesn't prove anything at all. The Rom is just a stripped out sense Rom(ie senseless)with touchwiz launcher an possibly ui. It's not a full touchwiz rom.
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hmmm interesting would that be a possibility for us i747 users?
sir my question was simply why can they bring our UI to them and we cannot port anything to our devices besides Aosp and Aokp and miui they have ports of our UI why not port there UI ? they stripped sense and got a Touchwiz Ui on top of it why don't we start with an Aosp or AOkp and throw in a Sense UI im not here to argue about getting a full rom my question was hey can we get some sense on our phones and thanks for all the help ive never had a moderator actually reply to my questions its good to have an active moderator on a forum props to you sir

atadres said:
hmmm interesting would that be a possibility for us i747 users?
sir my question was simply why can they bring our UI to them and we cannot port anything to our devices besides Aosp and Aokp and miui they have ports of our UI why not port there UI ? they stripped sense and got a Touchwiz Ui on top of it why don't we start with an Aosp or AOkp and throw in a Sense UI im not here to argue about getting a full rom my question was hey can we get some sense on our phones and thanks for all the help ive never had a moderator actually reply to my questions its good to have an active moderator on a forum props to you sir
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The ui alone is possible but not very sure how stable it'll be though. Probably the main reason nobody has done is: 1. They just don't care about sense. 2. There no demand for sense on the device or 3.nobody thought of it yet?
I try to help out where ever possible. Thanks.

The Archangel said:
The ui alone is possible but not very sure how stable it'll be though. Probably the main reason nobody has done is: 1. They just don't care about sense. 2. There no demand for sense on the device or 3.nobody thought of it yet?
I try to help out where ever possible. Thanks.
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The level of activity in development in this particular forum is relatively low although the devs have come up with some pretty genius things I will start this venture and if I am able to get a beta launcher application of sense ui. I will post in the development for testing and see how well it'll catch on I'm not much of a dev. But will give it a shot.

atadres said:
The level of activity in development in this particular forum is relatively low although the devs have come up with some pretty genius things I will start this venture and if I am able to get a beta launcher application of sense ui. I will post in the development for testing and see how well it'll catch on I'm not much of a dev. But will give it a shot.
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If I owned the gs3, I'd help out

[Q] Multi-window ported from Galaxy Note 2 to Galaxy S3

Okay, so we have all of course seen that Synergy ROM and GalaxyMod have gotten multi-window/multi-view (is there seriously an official name for it??) working on the Galaxy S3, and on 4.1.1 no less.
This is really bugging the crap out of me (and probably a few other frustrated people). See, I want to make my own ROM from stock with all the features I want, without having to even deal with ROMs like Synergy that just don't quite fit with what I want and what works.
So I shall ask the question many may be dying to answer themselves, and why not sit down and actually discuss it rather than say "oh go here and get 'x' rom lol".
How does one get the Galaxy Note 2's Multi-window feature working on a Galaxy S3 touchwiz (or perhaps even AOSP) ROM?
Simple as that.
We all know it is possible, since it has already been done. And even on a version beneath 4.1.2!
If anyone has any clue whatsoever, please contribute to the discussion. I hope that soon this can be useful to all who would like this feature.
If anyone has any arguments to me asking the question, I haven't ever found an answer, and I've searched almost anywhere I possibly could (even here). So please don't.
Thank you.

Ascyndaeon said:
Okay, so we have all of course seen that Synergy ROM and GalaxyMod have gotten multi-window/multi-view (is there seriously an official name for it??) working on the Galaxy S3, and on 4.1.1 no less.
This is really bugging the crap out of me (and probably a few other frustrated people). See, I want to make my own ROM from stock with all the features I want, without having to even deal with ROMs like Synergy that just don't quite fit with what I want and what works.
So I shall ask the question many may be dying to answer themselves, and why not sit down and actually discuss it rather than say "oh go here and get 'x' rom lol".
How does one get the Galaxy Note 2's Multi-window feature working on a Galaxy S3 touchwiz (or perhaps even AOSP) ROM?
Simple as that.
We all know it is possible, since it has already been done. And even on a version beneath 4.1.2!
If anyone has any clue whatsoever, please contribute to the discussion. I hope that soon this can be useful to all who would like this feature.
If anyone has any arguments to me asking the question, I haven't ever found an answer, and I've searched almost anywhere I possibly could (even here). So please don't.
Thank you.
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You have to code it into the rom your using. Which means ripping your rom apart down to the base code and redoing alot of the coding from scratch.
AOSP is not an option. If you dont know why then you might want to rethink doing it your self.
You will need to know Java and C++ to start with.

zelendel said:
You have to code it into the rom your using. Which means ripping your rom apart down to the base code and redoing alot of the coding from scratch.
AOSP is not an option. If you dont know why then you might want to rethink doing it your self.
You will need to know Java and C++ to start with.
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So basically what you're saying is that I should download the source code from Samsung and code it into the ROM? (can't think of any other way to get to the base code simply from my little ROM itself, so that's why I ask this) Never worked with actual source code yet, so I might need a few pointers. It has always seemed as though source codes for different sorts of software are handled differently. And that's true. The thing is, finding how to handle each person's/company's source, and I still have much to learn in that regard.
Call me a noob if you'd like, because I pretty much am. But even so I would like to learn. Just saying. (and before you say "oh, well then go look at the other parts of the forum if you're so helpless", I'm just throwing it out there)
Okay. I thought I saw multi-window on an AOSP ROM but I could be mistaken. Besides, I don't have to do it myself. I could probably team up with my friend who is a hardcore android phone modder like myself.
Yeah, I figured I'd need to know Java and C++ to legitimately code android itself. I'll probably be able to get it down completely one of these days. For now, I'm still learning it.

There is a mod on the sprint gs3 forums that has multiwindow. It's a flashable mod for sprint 4.1.2 rims only though. It's a lotmore work than just that though. Port Sprint ROM then add the mod. And more behind Tue scenes stuff.
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Ascyndaeon said:
How does one get the Galaxy Note 2's Multi-window feature working on a Galaxy S3 touchwiz
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You NEED to also know that the APKs themselves also need to be multi-view compatible. This means decompiling and re-compiling each APK for your device (with the change in coding).
I'm not sure if you'd need to change the build prop to match the Note2 as well, but I think your CSC can remain the same.

hednik said:
There is a mod on the sprint gs3 forums that has multiwindow. It's a flashable mod for sprint 4.1.2 rims only though. It's a lotmore work than just that though. Port Sprint ROM then add the mod. And more behind Tue scenes stuff.
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Thank you. I figured this might be moreso the case, as Team Synergy apparently made their ROM by using dsixda's android kitchen. Porting methods definitely must be learnt to get this kind of thing going.
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You NEED to also know that the APKs themselves also need to be multi-view compatible. This means decompiling and re-compiling each APK for your device (with the change in coding).
I'm not sure if you'd need to change the build prop to match the Note2 as well, but I think your CSC can remain the same.
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So I'm assuming you mean we should use something like apktool. The question then is what parts of each code do we change/add to make it work. Alternatively, I have seen mods that make it so just about any app will work as well.
I'm supposing I should get the stock Note 2 ROM to obtain the build.prop? I dunno, I haven't done much with build.prop's.
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Ascyndaeon said:
So I'm assuming you mean we should use something like apktoo
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This is correct. I don't have the correct answer to any of your other queries as we are actually in the same boat.

Anonymously_Unknown said:
This is correct. I don't have the correct answer to any of your other queries as we are actually in the same boat.
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Okay. Well hopefully soon we will have the answer.
If anyone else has any info, please share it.
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Bump?

You are better off learning to use Dsixda's Kitchen or wait on someone else to create a custom ROM for this.

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You are better off learning to use Dsixda's Kitchen or wait on someone else to create a custom ROM for this.
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Well...I actually already know how to use the Kitchen. It's really simple to use. You just need to know how to install individual mods after you do what needs to be done in the kitchen itself. The only thing I don't fully know is how to port. He doesn't give any pointers because he doesn't actually know how to port either.
And I really don't want to wait for someone else to make a ROM with it included. We already have two, and both are still pretty buggy. Synergy is notably slow (despite CPU tweaks) and there are quite a few apps that don't even work on it (for example, the regular e-mail app). I'm determined to figure out and know how top create my own ROM, but if I can't get the info I need to progress then it'll be pretty tough.
Like I said though. I'm determined to gain the knowledge to do what I want.
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Ascyndaeon said:
Well...I actually already know how to use the Kitchen. It's really simple to use. You just need to know how to install individual mods after you do what needs to be done in the kitchen itself. The only thing I don't fully know is how to port. He doesn't give any pointers because he doesn't actually know how to port either.
And I really don't want to wait for someone else to make a ROM with it included. We already have two, and both are still pretty buggy. Synergy is notably slow (despite CPU tweaks) and there are quite a few apps that don't even work on it (for example, the regular e-mail app). I'm determined to figure out and know how top create my own ROM, but if I can't get the info I need to progress then it'll be pretty tough.
Like I said though. I'm determined to gain the knowledge to do what I want.
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There are porting guides all over XDA and one in our very own development section. You could run a few things by the guy who made the CSROM BMB rom...and its not buggy as you said others are. It's has a Sprint base and works well with the multiview feature.

hednik said:
There are porting guides all over XDA and one in our very own development section. You could run a few things by the guy who made the CSROM BMB rom...and its not buggy as you said others are. It's has a Sprint base and works well with the multiview feature.
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hednik, you are in love with upndwn4par. thats all there is to it

xBeerdroiDx said:
hednik, you are in love with upndwn4par. thats all there is to it
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What's not to love?
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xBeerdroiDx said:
hednik, you are in love with upndwn4par. thats all there is to it
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No offense to all the bother devs here but he like loser makes the most solid ROMs and his work goes unnoticed. Guys a boss
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hednik said:
No offense to all the bother devs here but he like loser makes the most solid ROMs and his work goes unnoticed. Guys a boss
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agreed. no offense to any devs as well but their are several trending ROMs/devs that everyone seems to run to...without even looking at the great (and often more stable) material that already exists. not to mention, guys like upndwn4par have their hands in a dozen other small mods/patches and really, really useful bits of software that have made S3 life for many of us so much easier.

hednik said:
There are porting guides all over XDA and one in our very own development section. You could run a few things by the guy who made the CSROM BMB rom...and its not buggy as you said others are. It's has a Sprint base and works well with the multiview feature.
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Yeah I know. I've bookmarked a couple so I can go through them when I have time. :3
Oh, wow! I just went and looked at that ROM and it looks pretty bada$$!!
Also wondering if Gruesomewolf's multi-window mod will work on any ROM. Not real sure what "MB1" is though...
That's so awesome though. I'm a bit surprised people like Max Lee haven't featured that yet.
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Mb1 is the sprint 4.1.2 leak. The gruesomwolf mod gas the have a sprint 4.1.2 base... Maybe Verizon will work but at&t and T-Mobile haven't gotten it yet.
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So basically what you're saying is that I should download the source code from Samsung and code it into the ROM? (can't think of any other way to get to the base code simply from my little ROM itself, so that's why I ask this) Never worked with actual source code yet, so I might need a few pointers. It has always seemed as though source codes for different sorts of software are handled differently. And that's true. The thing is, finding how to handle each person's/company's source, and I still have much to learn in that regard.
Call me a noob if you'd like, because I pretty much am. But even so I would like to learn. Just saying. (and before you say "oh, well then go look at the other parts of the forum if you're so helpless", I'm just throwing it out there)
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So if you want to create a Rom with multi Window you will need framework from gs3 4.1.1 4.1.2 and note 2 4.1.2. You do not need the source from Samsung necessarily as you can pull framework-res.apk with adb, but you need a thorough knowledge of java and c++. You don't normally start off doing major reconstructive editing to roms. If you have adk set up build an app first. There are tons of tutorials in xda and all over google. Then move on to theming and whatnot.
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[Q] Developers

Our community seems small. How many developers do we have?

I'm getting ready to release my first ROM for this phone.
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Our community seems small. How many developers do we have?
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More than enough. Not really small. We just don't have 30 copies of the same ROM like most lol.
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More than enough. Not really small. We just don't have 30 copies of the same ROM like most lol.
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This^ Previous phone was the GNex and it was unbelievable how many variants and kangs there were for CM10, AOKP, etc. I ran a lot of them but in the end there wasn't all that much that was different from the original rom. In a lot of cases, the variant ran worse.
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Quality is always better than quantity
Like was mentioned above, some phones have 200 Rom threads, but really what's the difference between the Rom? They (aosp variants) are 90% cm based with varying mods pulled from aokp source with pa stuff as well
Really, no disrespect intended those 3 aosp roms are all that matter as everything else is just mashed up and derivative of them
As for sense, you only really need a few roms as well; something stock for those who only want root and a few basic mods, some kind of aroma Rom with user configurable options, and or a rom with a lot if built in mods (well you don't need them lol)
Really imo if you have 5 or 6 roms that meet the above criteria you are set
Unless you have a need to flash a different rom every day that has 1 more bs script or 1 different mod in it
The end user doesn't always see the forest from the trees

I agree with what has been said already. Quality is better than quantity... My old S2 had about 194873 ^6 worth of different roms. Touchwiz this and AOSP that and don't forget the AOKP, with CM and a side of Sense ports. In the end I dropped myself on a really good rom called The Blu Kuban which was headed up by rujelus22 over in the Epic 4g Touch development forum. I ran that rom for about 18 months before I nix'd my device and went over to the red side here at Verizon. I heard he went forth to the S4 and has kept that rom's traditions alive. He was one dev who was helped by the many and made a rom that many made their daily drivers just like I did.
I know we have a good community over here as well as even before beaups dropped rumrunner on us we had a few devs tinkering with their roms.
Now remember! A community is only as good as the people around it. Support your devs any way you can if it's simple donations or a click of the thanks buttons. But most of all, be part of the community. List the bugs you find in the roms, mods, and tweaks. Help the devs make the best they can and we all prosper.

I'd still like to see old Sense on this phone. Like Sense 3 or 4.
I'd also like to see a CM variant built off Sense base. Like the old style ROMs that had all full Sense apk compatibility but no Sense launcher. Not sure if this is doable with Sense 5 though.
And last but not least, hopefully a dev will pick up Ubuntu Touch.
Just a daydreamin' wishlist.. lol

Can't port old sense to new hardware. Plus the old stuff was lower resolution.
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Can't port old sense to new hardware. Plus the old stuff was lower resolution.
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you could port sense4+ to this phone (someone did it on the intl one) as the kernel base is the same (3.4.x)
dont know why you would really want to, but its possible

nitsuj17 said:
Quality is always better than quantity
Like was mentioned above, some phones have 200 Rom threads, but really what's the difference between the Rom? They (aosp variants) are 90% cm based with varying mods pulled from aokp source with pa stuff as well
Really, no disrespect intended those 3 aosp roms are all that matter as everything else is just mashed up and derivative of them
As for sense, you only really need a few roms as well; something stock for those who only want root and a few basic mods, some kind of aroma Rom with user configurable options, and or a rom with a lot if built in mods (well you don't need them lol)
Really imo if you have 5 or 6 roms that meet the above criteria you are set
Unless you have a need to flash a different rom every day that has 1 more bs script or 1 different mod in it
The end user doesn't always see the forest from the trees
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Consumer choice is always a win. I'd kill for a thread with five million views and fifty three thousand replies. Developers in different sections have had months to build their own form of paradise. Android Revolution HD has fullSnapdragon 600 (GPU) rendering. I want to try that.

Reefer Madness said:
Consumer choice is always a win. I'd kill for a thread with five million views and fifty three thousand replies. Developers in different sections have had months to build their own form of paradise. Android Revolution HD has fullSnapdragon 600 (GPU) rendering. I want to try that.
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thats a bs mod that requires the deleting of a lib (and does nothing)
the end user might enjoy that, real developers know the work done in roms and can sort out the differences between fancy features in a changelog and real code changes and development
views and posts have nothing to do with the work that go into a rom....you can have a thread that explodes because it has a leaked version of sense, a large user base of a rom that drives discussion and hypes upcoming releases, massive bug issues that require help and dicussion, new hboots or firmware needed to run new updates and so on
thread views and # of posts, as well as individual member post count and thanks count is really deceptive and a TERRIBLE barometer of worth in the development community
the best and most important kernel, rom, root exploit, recovery and so on developers that exist in the android world often have a relatively low post and thanks count, whereas guys who release stock deodexed roms made with a rom kitchen in cygwin have tens of thousands of posts and thanks which leads new users and even more experienced ones to inflate their value and skillsets
developers can generally sort out whos who amongst themselves, but its unfortunate that the end user often cant; usually through no fault of their own

nitsuj17 said:
thats a bs mod that requires the deleting of a lib (and does nothing)
the end user might enjoy that, real developers know the work done in roms and can sort out the differences between fancy features in a changelog and real code changes and development
views and posts have nothing to do with the work that go into a rom....you can have a thread that explodes because it has a leaked version of sense, a large user base of a rom that drives discussion and hypes upcoming releases, massive bug issues that require help and dicussion, new hboots or firmware needed to run new updates and so on
thread views and # of posts, as well as individual member post count and thanks count is really deceptive and a TERRIBLE barometer of worth in the development community
the best and most important kernel, rom, root exploit, recovery and so on developers that exist in the android world often have a relatively low post and thanks count, whereas guys who release stock deodexed roms made with a rom kitchen in cygwin have tens of thousands of posts and thanks which leads new users and even more experienced ones to inflate their value and skillsets
developers can generally sort out whos who amongst themselves, but its unfortunate that the end user often cant; usually through no fault of their own
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Perhaps you should stick to answering the questions you were asked. In any case, it would be smarter to back a winning horse.

Reefer Madness said:
Perhaps you should stick to answering the questions you were asked. In any case, it would be smarter to back a winning horse.
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Not to start a war, but I'm going to give you benefit of doubt you probably don't know him. What he said is true.. And you probably just proved his point too.
His work on other devices is proof of that. Give it time, we will see more options now that the crowd is turning more s-off.
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Reefer Madness said:
Perhaps you should stick to answering the questions you were asked. In any case, it would be smarter to back a winning horse.
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He did .. You must have not read it...
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cstrife999 said:
He did .. You must have not read it...
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Here I was thinking it was truly reefer madness...lol
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dottat said:
Not to start a war, but I'm going to give you benefit of doubt you probably don't know him. What he said is true.. And you probably just proved his point too.
His work on other devices is proof of that. Give it time, we will see more options now that the crowd is turning more s-off.
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I know what he said is true and I don't care. CPU vs GPU. That interests me.

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Can some one port htc sence 3 with 2.3 or 4.0.4?
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There's been a project: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2331791. But it's probably put on hold/not being developed anymore.
If you want something really old and 2.3.7 based, there was this ROM as well back then: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25031190&postcount=3. I would swear there was another one, possibly better, but I can't find it just now, and honestly that should be up to you.
If you want some stock Sense app ported, you could try looking here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2335530, There are quite a few ported already.
Also, I don't want to be nasty, but I think you should read the first line of my first link, it applies to your "request" , you're not the first to ask this. And also, it wouldn't hurt to put what your request was in the title, now it's almost as if you're clickbaiting the more curious among us.
Lastly, still not to be nasty, I think it's pretty pointless to port such an old version of Sense, HTC is at 6.0 now and you want 3?

Redstarr1 said:
There's been a project: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2331791. But it's probably put on hold/not being developed anymore.
If you want something really old and 2.3.7 based, there was this ROM as well back then: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showpost.php?p=25031190&postcount=3. I would swear there was another one, possibly better, but I can't find it just now, and honestly that should be up to you.
If you want some stock Sense app ported, you could try looking here: http://forum.xda-developers.com/showthread.php?t=2335530, There are quite a few ported already.
Also, I don't want to be nasty, but I think you should read the first line of my first link, it applies to your "request" , you're not the first to ask this. And also, it wouldn't hurt to put what your request was in the title, now it's almost as if you're clickbaiting the more curious among us.
Lastly, still not to be nasty, I think it's pretty pointless to port such an old version of Sense, HTC is at 6.0 now and you want 3?
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Ya..
Like to try ultimate sence
But file is removed.
Can u provide another link for that rom
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